I Built an Underwater Tank for Fast Oil Collecting! (Scrap Mechanic Survival Ep.33)

[@theonionbro1349]

Recently, there was a buoyancy test on the Scrap mechanic Subreddit. The two most heavy materials are Concrete 3 and metal I-Beams, making I-Beams the cheapest, heaviest option for underwater vehicles. In addition, using the metal small wheels from the Warehouse Security Gates makes a huge difference in keeping buoyancy low, as opposed to the standard Small Wheels.

[@angelusmortis3256]

But sand blocks are the cheapest low buoyancy heaviest blocks in the game... for the guy doing this on the cheap

[@mf4963]

The wheels are called Crane Wheels

[@zugy]

@@angelusmortis3256 And they seem to sink slightly faster than an I beam in my tests.

[@zugy]

Did a bunch of testing. Sand was by far the fastest sinking survival block or part I tested. The I-Beams are pretty close though. Don't use the rounded I-Beams, they have weirdly higher buoyancy for some reason. Crane wheels were the best ones I tried.

[@FranchDressing]

@@zugy try testing sand against a main humidifier

[@BrunisPistol]

For chest labeling I just stick a block/component or two from each chest on the front that represents what its contents are!

[@roccov3614]

I'm trying that but it becomes impractical for parts that are large. Still looking for a good solution.

[@Sr_Neon]

Genious but in my game:' it doesn't work

[@j_ordinary4252]

Exclamation mark

[@BrunisPistol]

@@Sr_Neon I don't believe you can actually attach things *to* the chest, but I put them on the ground in front for the bottom row and on top of the top row of chests, I have then stacked 2 high like kan

[@Cookiechipy]

Luxury

[@crimson3274]

SM: Has a bug KAN: "Hey everyone i found out that you can do[name of the bug]" SM:Gets patched KAN:" I swear that worked. Well maybe something broke after the update"

[@past6480]

Gotta love the fact he switch the T with the D in update

[@Neon-ws8er]

Apples 123 why tho

[@adamparker8299]

Apples 123 yeah why tho

[@j_ordinary4252]

Uptade

[@crimson3274]

Thanks for comments i was able to fix the T/D problem

[@triplezap2061]

kAN: This is gonna be the shortest video in the survival series Also kAN: Uploads 30 minute video

[@jbcoolestgamer9786]

Triple Zap I’m definitely not complaining!

[@triplezap2061]

JBCoolestGaMEr! ! Very true. I will always accept more "kANtent".

[@samb4678]

Enough with this same comment on every video

[@triplezap2061]

@Technology Boy If you want to be specific, technically it is 28 minutes.

[@chasetoyama8184]

@@triplezap2061 dude. The puns lol

[@robertjohns1752]

add a timer for the breathing system to do it automatically

[@vancilbrandon]

Good idea I was thinking that to

[@rababmorad8334]

You are smart

[@limonlx7182]

You can theoretically make the whole vehicle AI controlled without you having to do anything. The biggest problem would be keeping right mouse button pressed.

[@limonlx7182]

I'll actually try to make the automated one. But sadly it's 4 AM, so I'll wait for the morning.

[@xgilbert8125]

Great idea

[@crispybacon4240]

Being able to delete blocks while seated was an old bug in Scrap Mechanic when it first released. It was quickly patched because everyone agreed it was annoying AF. I'd speculate since it only works with some seats they may have somehow inadvertently reintroduced it.

[@blob6021]

kan: my chests are messy. Scrapman: ummmmmmm

[@iwantmypot]

19:05 "How much oil are we up to?" .... has *69* oil. 😎 Nice.

[@cybertak4195]

What?

[@nbsarkar6911]

@@cybertak4195 oh look a normie

[@axeonee]

@@cybertak4195 if you are a kid you don't need to know what 69 is

[@甘いお茶漬け]

Kids at my school think 69 is a funny number.

[@CMWolfMagic]

Water slows stuff down while it's moving, regardless of what direction it is going. It gets over written if a vehicles wheels are on the floor. This is a common issue in other games, water has always been weird.

[@surfeit5910]

"Kind of a pain in the butt" he says, as I'm cursing the game out at the thought of the last time I deleted my own f***ing seat and chased that goddamn car for a mile into an ocean.

[@nbsarkar6911]

LooooooL

[@kingbob851]

BUTOOONS

[@venomrush_]

Bind right click to something else. I bound mine to T and I've never been happier playing SM. No more accidentally deleting things while I drive. The only downside is that you need to Press T if you want to zoom in with the spud gun, but it's a small price to pay for never mistakenly removing things.

[@kingbob851]

@@venomrush_ or just have it as buttons so they stop when the seat is deleted

[@coolHawk_]

Nothing is better than starting the game, making a vehicle, going into one of those town things, and then coming out to kill a greenie and your car is gone. As I was gathering oil for my exploration vehicle I later found out that the seat had been destroyed and it took off and fell into the ocean...

[@sleepyorca4997]

Was literally waiting for kAN to say "we all float down here"

[@Ivy64_]

You said your combine was super heavy right? Just drop in the ocean and see if it sinks fast.

[@juanmanuelvidal5121]

Problem einstein?

[@Nostrite]

I found that having a secondary binding for buttons set to the number pad is really nice too, it also doubles for arrow keys

[@zacharysalter7218]

I wish they had upgradeable wheels. For each level you gain more grip

[@benjaminbrochpedersen5255]

good idea

[@toast_n_jam8429]

Ya every one send it to dev's now

[@ThePhonax]

they actually said once that the wheels have ow friction because if they had more then the driving experience would be rougher

[@JasonJPParker]

Tip for organising stuff: I made it a rule to actually put items that do NOT stack outisde of boxes into storage shelves made ou of the warehouse shelve parts.

[@tytangameplay3118]

Put a sensor under the front of the vehicle and when it doesn’t detect terrain it activates a controller suspension glitch that pushes the front down.

[@MrFlubber]

Imagine it starts spinning

[@tytangameplay3118]

?

[@collinsims2413]

@@tytangameplay3118 i think the person means it may start doing front flips.

[@tytangameplay3118]

Oh

[@tytangameplay3118]

Make 2 suspension glitches that pushes the front and the back down

[@Swu1863]

Hey kAN one suggestion for another trailer would be to just have a crap load of chests for looting around the map. I've seen a lot of KZbinrs that run out of storage space when looting.

[@coolHawk_]

I made a 4x4 vehicle that has 6 small chests and later expanded to make the vehicle a 6x6 wheelbase with 2 large chests on top of those 6 small ones. Best investment in my life (I also use a controller system to make a 360* lighting system and it helps so much)

[@sysghost]

For anyone hitting this video after the last updates: There's now oil ponds on land in desert areas where one can set up vacuum pump stations to collect oil automatically much faster.

[@Mriya330]

Scrap mechanic has changed so much since i watched yts play it like three years ago

[@gigakoresh]

I find it somehow hilarious how he is casually doing something completely ridiculous like it's completely normal - "Maybe we should just make wheels out of flower pots"

[@MajRatbag]

I think you mean "par for the course", not "part of the course" it's a golfing term.

[@gigakoresh]

@@MajRatbag Yeah screw these nonsensical expressions!

[@phantomvulcan2206]

I think Scrap Mechanic needs to make like an oxigen tank so we can stay underwater for longer

[@zackdrewery6976]

Oxygen

[@elijah7723]

Good idea

[@kintrix007]

I think implementing a cabin system would make a lot more sense. Alhtough, it would be more work. What I mean by this, is that if you make a closed off "room", then you can still breathe

[@BrunisPistol]

Add an air tank just like the fuel/water/battery etc. containers that can be connected to a seat as an air supply

[@mozeskertesz6398]

My idea is the water pump, which can pump the water out from vehicles

[@zarnox3071]

I think the main part of the problem with the front lifting is torque. If you add in a counterweight that spins in the opposite direction, it should help keep you balanced.

[@DrypandaexpressFrey]

KAN:makes an underwater car ALSO KAN: uses an electric engine that is deadly when mixed with water

[@rocksfire4390]

i believe what you are looking for is a ratio between weight and buoyancy. you want a high weight and low buoyancy. the ratio of concrete is 7:5 or 1.4. (weight / buoyancy), that is how much weight is equal to 1 buoyancy. sand, the BEST thing you could use for this type of creation, is 6:1 or 6. that's 4.2 times more effective then concrete! testing, it doesn't seem like things that weigh more sink faster. however the point is to have as low buoyancy as possible, so that when you move you don't start to rise. the cool thing about how buoyancy works is that, you can use pistons to control which side of your car will produce lift. so if you put a piston extending out the back of your car and put some bubble wrap on it, you can actually force your car to tilt down (front end down). if you put it out the front it would push your back end down. think of it like a back fin for a race car, the air flow around the fin produces a drag force that pushes the car to the ground. actually you can create a drive shaft using that, however sinking is always a constant speed so you would need to fiddle with that to get it to actually spin fast enough to matter. also the stats don't make any sense. there is no correlation between weight and buoyancy. that is, if you have equal weight and buoyancy, you still sink, for some reason. if you have too much buoyancy, the creation actually JUMPS out the water! aka create a single line of bubble wrap and watch it jump up and down. it makes no sense in terms of physics. should really just stop calling the game physics based and call it what it truly is, MAGIC.

[@jarvis7520]

the toilet seat is buggered XDD you been playing with squid to much xx

[@demon_taco9649]

My guess is that the buoyancy of the engines and the battery storage thing is kinda high, cuz everything else has a low buoyancy

[@axeonee]

its not high its because of the wheels i tested it

[@demon_taco9649]

I cant test it I'm just guessing cuz I dont have scrap mechanic Edit:he even took the normal wheels off and the buoyancy was still pretty close

[@axeonee]

@@demon_taco9649 he didn't took all of them off .... Adding more doesn't affect it cause they aren't calculated in the physics.

[@demon_taco9649]

That's fair but tbh I have no clue then lel

[@demon_taco9649]

And I was just guessing anyway

[@wilmeroberg9794]

you can paint bearings on pipes now, don't have to do it before you place a second pipe, block or wheel

[@limonlx7182]

Well, not "now", it was a thing for quite a while (a really long time).

[@altaem9152]

Kan: "It'd be really nice if you could put labels on chests." Me: *Looks at colour coded wall of chests with demonstration item placed on each one* "I can see that'd be really useful."

[@p.4lvv]

Me as a color blind 🤔 what is this

[@roccov3614]

Colour coding is only useful for a small number of items. If there are too many items and too many colours it would be too difficult to memorise all the colours.

[@p.4lvv]

Rocco V i can’t see colour 😂

[@axeonee]

@@p.4lvv well technically you can see color just not the same shades as us and some colors look the same for you. So a color coded wall of chests will still work but you would had to adjust it for the colors that for you look the same

[@irrelevantdb]

8:30am in Australia and the perfect time to watch a video from my favourite youtuber :)

[@NovaAge]

1:30 Istambul

[@dorel5584]

@@NovaAge same

[@dorel5584]

But Moldova

[@tuluppampam]

0:45 Italy

[@hobartbartholomewpepperidgejr]

6:00 in texas

[@tytangameplay3118]

I think you can keep the vehicle on the ground by putting a sensor under it and when it doesn’t detect terrain it activates a piston which pushes a weight up which pushes the vehicle down.

[@jackbe-ve8rs]

A suggestion for sinking faster: you could build a dock out into the ocean and then use pistons on max speed to push yourself down really fast and then delete a block on the end of the piston to let your car down, and then when you come back you can just wield your car to the piston and lift yourself back up really fast

[@Tythebeardedguy]

No idea of it's been thought of or tried but sensor and some logic tied to a thruster for any time your wheel comes off the ground? I know thrusts are thirsty buggers but if the rate at which you burn is less than your gathering rate of oil it might be something. The thrusters would only be on for ticks at a time.

[@angiefoster9841]

kan:this is where you have to think about it me: ive been thinking about it this whole time

[@0r7aistall]

well one idea that comes to mind is a wheelie bar. It would keep the front down.

[@paulchi195]

a piston platform with roof that pushes you down and a wood highway that goes to the pods so you dont have to deal with hills. this way you can also add lots of concrete to the sides without worrying about getting stuck since there's a set path

[@highjix]

I once had electrical classes in a continuing education class dealing with gates, I didn't understand them then, and I sure don't understand them now, but it kills me that they are now in a freaking game! and what is worse is that playing this game I will probably figure out how to use gates when I couldn't figure them out for when I was learning them for a grade!

[@drawinggenius7297]

Idea: put the item that is in the chest on top of the chest

[@dinky1291]

Please tell the devs this, they should add underwater farmbots, like sharks! Maybe aerial farmbots too!

[@redpandaplays9057]

Hey kAN, I just wanted to let you know that you can just press E on the Oil Geysers and it’ll pick it up and you don’t have to worry about destroying your seat. Hope this helps!

[@rockybelmonte8885]

I’m getting this game Tommorow I cannot wait this game looks so frikin fun

[@intel31337]

Everyone seems to want to build sinking cars, but my solution is a boat/amphibious car that has a seat connected to pistons that shoots you downward? Only downside is you need to use thrusters.

[@MegaGadgetdude]

Try making the front tires spin faster than the back. This'll create drag and over-power the torque of the back wheels lifting up the front (which is a major issue here.)

[@Ratchet4647]

He'd have to double the number of engines because engines define wheel speed. Unless you want him to double bearing the forwards of the front wheels.

[@spacewalk3046]

They probably added the seat removing thing for when you are stuck, for example when delivering a bunch of fruit crates.

[@Baka_Oppai]

The metal warehouse wheels hang as a pair on every guard gate of each warehouse entrance outside, and are freely available to take. They have a buoyancy of 1

[@Dom-hd5zh]

You can swim a lil faster when you look down and hold spacebar, dont look too far tho or you gonna swim backwards ^^

[@harpie9463]

For underwater vehicles you should take heavy blocks and blocks with the less buoyancy. It's the opposite for boats (light blocks(i suggest wood, bubbles are too light) and hight buoyancy blocks)

[@katoblepas1234]

maybe its just the fluid mechanic, maybe if you put some down force besides weight?, can you use some sort of engine or propulsion to get down faster? or maybe a complete below water base for it?

[@brenynwhitney6643]

You should message the devs and tell them to add a block that adds massive amount of gravity to the creation or reduces the water physics of the vehicle.

[@darkener3210]

You should connect the piston breath taker to a timer system so that you auto refresh your breath without doing anything.

[@emmettomeara1910]

kAN: ...and I'd need to do some off-roading, but I don't need to do that Me: Driving through an ocean doesn't sound like off-roading to you?

[@zugy]

You could add thrusters on the corners tied to a sensor so if it leaves the group it activates. If you do it right it should be minimal gas.

[@limonlx7182]

So.. in theory, you can make an automated oil farming vehicle? Make a slow vehicle that drives on the ocean bottom and swings your seat from one side to another, hook up some sort of timer system that will raise your seat when you need air, hold right mouse button somehow and you're driving around the ocean bottom gathering oil!

[@pillowpants3039]

UNDERWATER RACING FOR MULTIPLAYER MONDAY!!

[@tathagatabhattacharya5911]

Or oil collection competition..

[@dormy6209]

npo

[@dormy6209]

i dont like mm

[@Baer1990]

@@dormy6209 then don't watch it and let us pitch ideas

[@erin3967]

@@dormy6209 ok? dont watch it then

[@jakesandwith2174]

If u wanna make a really fast oil collector, u could make a piston path and spam/hold right click through the water collecting the oil

[@Closer2Zero]

oh oh an offset cab on the combine could be interesting! on the other side of the cab you could have it more open like its a mobile logging platform with expose refiners maybe

[@iwantmypot]

Possible Buoyancy Test.... Make identical sheets of the materials you want to test, and see how much bubblewrap you have to add to make each one float.

[@winterbergtablet4118]

Add a spudgun for collecting glue clamps. Also I wonder if you could use a glowbug to push you down?

[@gregblastfpv3623]

Maybe adding a resource collector would make you sink faster? And stick to the ground better. On or more. Will be less efficient though.

[@gabemims2864]

Now that you have a lot of oil you should make a really light weight fast jet car with a tow on it so you can just pull vehicles places

[@MoiraticaHeretica]

Reduce engine power to your back wheels only, it'll help keep your vehicle from doing a wheelie

[@musicaljumbalaya9756]

Multiplayer monday idea. Piston powered drag racing. No thrusters or engines just piston power.

[@loganparamore8414]

You should put suspension on it to keep the wheels touching

[@surfeit5910]

One quick note - Buoyancy means almost nothing in this game. You can test this out by taking one pipe piece with a weight of 2 and buoyancy of 3 and a refined wood with a weight of 2 and buoyancy of 6. They both float the same. Increase the weight though, and it sinks like a rock. And for that.... A small chest is heavier than the equivalent amount of concrete... or even a large chest. I have made a submarine tank out of nothing but small chests (with concrete to bind the additional pieces together) and have one of the smallest, but heaviest creations possible that sticks to the ocean floor like glue... unless I speed off a jump!

[@theresalwaysaplan9831]

Put a timer on the pistons so that it automatically raises you up time to time

[@kfed9834]

Surprising Kan didn't use the absurd method of using bubble blocks to float on the water's surface then use pistons and logic to keep his seat at the bottom of the ocean lol

[@planetbob4709]

put a foil on the underwater vehicle. start low in the front and angle up torward the back. Maybe there is some physics for resistance when the water hits the foil and will push the vehicle down. Have you tried using gears for wheels?

[@terryfuldsgaming7995]

Maybe put some suspension on the wheels. Offroad, with the lowest stiffness setting so they can travel down further.

[@ratonbox]

You could create a piston elevator to put the car on the bottom or at least near the bottom of the ocean. Make it at the end of a pier or do it like a dry dock.

[@mythman30]

I know this video is pretty old by now but i think you could add a thruster pointing down on top of your car linked to a sensor to detect when you leave the ground

[@TailcoatGames]

0:20 ish it was a me Also 12:44 what is that thing above the switch

[@TailcoatGames]

Jacko Boy that’s what I thought

[@Yakorian]

try using sensor looking down to the ground that controls a rocket pushing you downwards. If you happen to jump and float, then it will push you down to the ground faster and also you can use it manually to sink faster probably.

[@Avetho]

The big wheels with a 2-bearing-per-wheel controller drive should be used for the heavy machinery like the harvester, that way it doesn't consume like 40 fuel per mining run. Regardless, this is really cool lol Also, what if you used offroad suspension, but at minimum strength so the wheels stay in contact with the seabed? That should help with most hills.

[@WlDoWMaK3R]

o/ Yo! I also had this idea for collecting oil, but after failing to get a vehicle to stick to the bottom like I wanted. I ended up making a jet boat with 2 level five thrusters, and a rotating riders seat on pistons. The awesome thing about the boat I built is even when the seat is flipped upside down I still get oxygen, so If im in first person I can drive underwater to see where the oil is and then extend the pistons to collect the oil from the seat. The level 5 thrusters do not have to be turned all the way up because my build is pretty light, mostly bubble blocks, small amount of wood, gas tank, controller, 3 buttons. It is pretty fuel efficient and defiantly make a profit on collecting oil!!

[@IcrazyJim]

Hey KAN you should put suspention on it to get more contact with ground

[@elijah7723]

To find the best material for sinking quickly, you want high weight and low buoyancy. So do weight divided by buoyancy for each block, and the one with the largest result is the best option.

[@leonzspotg]

KAN is painting bearings again :D

[@matheushorstmann1816]

another material you can make of is the metal fence block, not much weigth, but very low bouyancy

[@Jona3090]

Kan: I guess it make sense , you can't make a boat out of metal Most of the boat: -_-'

[@madjoemak]

I want to see a big underwater vehicle where you sit on the front collecting oil and it automatically crafts it into fuel and powers it forwards so that you can go long distance underwater driving without having to worry about fuel. I wonder if you can collect enough fuel

[@Ming1975]

You can try using the small iron wheels taken from the warehouse security gate.

[@jakekeeler7176]

Random idea Kan, can u attach a mounted spud gun and use it to crack clams for glue- then u can get oil and glue same time. Cut down on making new logic bits.

[@boscodcat]

Mounted spud guns cannot break clams. It really sucks.

[@flyingpelican4138]

You should make boat, with a piston that rotates the arm around with your chair on it.

[@adolphchao8143]

Sand and H-beam have better weight/buoyancy ratio.& In the guardhouse outside the warehouse, the counterweight at the end of the fence is the same size as the small wheels, and has less buoyancy.Those can help the car stay on the bottom of the sea with a lower total weight

[@tenix6698]

I think the stantard wheels have more grip than flower pots, and that's why they make your nose go up

[@vonholtz1]

Great build and it the literal definition of irony. using a electric vehicle to get oil for a gas engine. :)

[@juwaretualiyu9022]

I'd recommend reducing the power in the back wheels so it doesn't kick up as much in the water

[@scrapheap339]

kAN, you could make a robot arm that lowers you into the water from your base with a part pushing the vehicle down that way it should be quicker to get oil collecting. This also allows it to be automated if you want it to.

[@Johnny_tha_GameKid]

Custom Concrete 3 wheels using wedge pieces...not circular but works like snow tires underwater

[@mihalydozsa2254]

Underground counter wheels with suspensions? Ultimate downforce :D

[@speedspiker624]

You could try using the round steel piece on the gates leading into the warehouses

[@TheLightLOD]

Whilst i could go and spout untested ideas for imrproving the underwater performance of the vehicle, i have a better idea: Multiplayer monday underwater car race, no thrusters, no glitches.

[@KaneyoriHK]

it would be nice if there was an electric alternative to thrusters too, wind up a prop-style engine and fly, although it would be weaker and require more of them to create flight, but they are more efficient and better.

[@ZooD333]

Would it help to have wheels on the back and keep the pots on the front? A little extra buoyancy at the back might help push the front end down more maybe.

[@hectatusbreakfastus6106]

if the water ever gets density that would be INSANELY AWESOME Make subs and stuff like that

[@busisaac6620]

Very late comment so I doubt it’ll be seen but the “warehouse wheels” can be found outside the warehouse aswell, they’re the counter weights for the lifting barriers at the entrances

[@dexlee3145]

Moonbo made the first oil gathering vehicle with the piston seat for air.

[@steeljawX]

I haven't tested any underwater things, I'm stuck on the survival aspect of survival, but is hydrodynamics a thing? Like if you created "spoiler" for the front and back and used bearings to angle them down, would that make a difference or would that just be more weight? You could also try "counter weighing" it for sinking. By counter weighing I mean put a big load of weight on to 5 pistons, so that when you go under, you send that up into the air and then there's theoretically the weight of the higher slab falling and pushing your vehicle down under the force of gravity. Of course you don't want the higher slab's weight to exceed the weight of your vehicle, but I'm just wondering which takes priority in the game; the acceleration and force of falling objects or acceleration and force of sinking objects. I'll have to survive better so I can test somethings out.

[@victorharlock1650]

"Black Pearl"! )) kAN, thank you for your inventions! They really help in survival.

[@zugy]

Regarding labels, I usually paint chests and put an item of what's inside on the outside of it. Not perfect, but it works.

[@coolHawk_]

Another little glitch thing I found: When you have a large container with items in it you can right click to throw it down. Jk, you then pick it up and it goes into the inventory instead of your shoulder while also saving the items in the container