I Built the Slowest Brand New PC and it Sucks.

[@LinusTechTips]

Opera GX ain’t your granpappy’s web browser. So check them out here: operagx.gg/LinusTechTips

[@jes3d]

39sec :D

[@ankomen]

opera ? oh no

[@Ниггерфиш]

Finally I can have Chinese malware in my Chromium-based browser!

[@MrPate69]

ok

[@Purely4subs]

I'll stick to IE6 thanks

[@mix3ry199]

I remember back in 2010, when I was still working as an IT admin, it was the big SSD transition period alongside the Velociraptor, which had been around for a few years. The receptionist and the HR department got new machines... with SSDs... They complained to the IT dept. that their computer was too fast, so they where not able to "get my coffee and talk to each other" anymore.🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@LabCat]

That's the only reason to get to work early. Boot up your system, go get some coffee, have a doughnut and by the time 8:00 rolls around, it's ready to log in and start work.

[@cbb5102]

Most businesses would keep the computers on

[@SimonGreen85]

There is a company I knew that just hired new people instead of updating their slow machines.

[@steelfalconx2000]

Get to work Sally!

[@TheDinotz]

Based, now that's the mindset I like to witness more and more.

[@4RILDIGITAL]

It's crazy how "newest and slowest" PCs are essentially e-waste when compared to second-hand units. Really makes you question the value of buying brand new.

[@w3therby]

Wow! It’s almost like we watched the same video 😂

[@el_shmuel]

@@w3therby I will remove my comment and you should too. I don't know why I reacted on a generated comment.

[@JasonTaylor-po5xc]

Keep in mind they went out of their way to find the "slowest" parts for the money - you can build or buy new systems for a similar cost that perform much better - for example, I got a BeeLink mini PC for half the cost and it performs so much better. I use it as a Minecraft server for my kids and it works just fine for that purpose - even running it through virtualization.

[@blackasthesky]

Rightfully so. - a broke hardware enthusiast

[@RekySai]

It's crazy how he skipped the boot sequence the motherboard loading and didn't even show the beginning of Windows loading for the second PC. That's crazy

[@hummel6364]

Remember the Windows 10 minimum spec that said 32GB of storage, leading to a slew of $200 tablet computers with exactly 32GB of eMMC storage that then couldn't update anymore because Windows actually needed more like 48GB just to download and temporarily store update files until it could actually apply the updates on reboot?

[@HHalcyon]

Same happened with Androids as well. I got an 8gb over 16gb version. By the time I trashed by phone the OS took up something like almost 7gb. The distaste left in my mouth was so bad I went to Apple. Of course there were other problems as well not just this.

[@erebostd]

@@HHalcyonthat wasn’t an android problem, that was a „you are cheap“ problem. It’s like comparing a mac to this and then deciding mac wins, ignoring price and everything 🤦‍♂️

[@HHalcyon]

@@erebostd You missed my point. As a customer I was expecting not to get ripped off. Of course I cannot compare those two products one-to-one.

[@falsemcnuggethope]

@@erebostd no, that was a "we make a 8 GB phone, but we will still fill it with adware to make money twice" problem. With a custom rom, you suddenly had enough storage for normal use.

[@erebostd]

@@HHalcyon the point is apple sells hardware & software. The best analogy would be google. Get a google phone - basically any google phone - and you’ll receive a good device with long time support and features apple users can’t even dream about having (i‘m typing this on an iPad pro, i see it every day). The beauty of android is that you get a device for everybody in nearly every price range. There’s even a place for the low tear phones you had. Special use cases, but they are there. Switching to Apple because this one, cheap device didn’t fulfill the expectations is quite a reaction. Apple has (or better had) it’s big selling points, but in a world where the cheapest new phone is 529 bucks (the old iPhone se 2. generation) and the top device is nearly 2k while having massive problems in hardware and software…i feel apple lost the last bit of the stuff it was „different“. I think every device Apple sells is better than a cheap android device. But as soon as you go to the same price level where apple starts, you reached mid range android. Pixels start around 400 bucks, depending where you live. A oneplus 12r as an example costs as much as the cheapest iPhone (again, new prices in official stores, slight differences possible) and it blows the SE out of the water. And it has 5 years of updates guaranteed. Just to name a few 😉

[@sHinobu2969]

Hearing "20MB a second, that's atrocious" when I normally get 12MB/s physically hurt me

[@illuminoeye_gaming]

well to be fair their wifi is so good they can use download speed as an indicator of CPU and storage speed 😭😭

[@ilu.bmg1884]

brother. I get 6 at best.

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

My family have 50 mbps internet which should be 6 MBps, even if i alone in the house i barely get 6 MBps due to piece of 💩 router

[@infarno91]

Yal are spoiled, I get 400kbs

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

@@sHinobu2969 still, 20 MBPS is too slow for a cpu limitation , 20 MBPS is like 160 mbps which is not even 25% of a gigabit internet.

[@squidapple9662]

8:05 "We're looking at 20MB/S, that's atrocious!" Me in Australia: "Haha.. yeah..."

[@yasaldesilva]

AUSTRALIA MENTIONED RAAAAHHH WTF IS REASONABLE WEATHER PATTERNS

[@nadavgozlan1328]

bruhhhh i straightup came to comment section for this reason.... is it america or is linus' office just really good intrnet

[@avalanche1990]

@@nadavgozlan1328 Linus lives and works in the Greater Vancouver area of Canada, so their internet speed is extremely good. He also has spent good money on making sure the connections throughout his buildings are top notch. Edit: Spelling

[@timester3030]

FR, i get 6mbs a sec.

[@SamuraiGuy]

I mean... 160Mbps is a pretty insane internet speed, regardless of where you are.

[@lavalampguy37]

Beard Linus jumpscare

[@defenestratorr]

He's way more handsome with the beard ngl

[@CaptainRex332]

@@defenestratorrsimp

[@British_Tanker.]

Last video he was bald?!

[@arron840]

Fr lol

[@AndreasA.S.]

*screeches in your face*

[@sohiearth]

I had a Celeron. It struggled on ChromeOS. The iGPU was at 100% just opening a new tab.

[@Gatorade69]

Worst CPUs ever. They are literal eWaste.

[@applewolfx6472]

Lol 😂

[@gamerac9960]

I am the only one who's still using Quadro 600

[@xanderplayz3446]

Celerons should be targeted to the embedded market.

[@arahman56]

Which Celeron? Even the N22 with a 3060 manages to be fine enough.

[@baumthetree]

I use an i7-3770 with a 1050TI as my main setup, 240gb ssd, 2x 500gb 7200 rpm hdd for storage, 4x 4gb at 1600mhz, sure not great but without any money theres nothing better to get and a lot of stuff is still running, and the only thing I had to actually pay for was the 1050 TI which was 30 bucks, everything else was scrap parts I got either for free or got from places I worked at, else I'd have probably planned to go with a 1650 if the friend didnt offer me the 1050 ti. Always have to lower the settings but as someone who grew up with only outdated hardware and as someone who isn't too much into gaming (especially not the modern gaming), this build is fine, I am basically used to playing on PS2 and Nintendo DS so something like 1600 x 900 on medium settings and 30 FPS looks fine to me already (on more modern games) you can think whatever you want about me or call me out for anything but while I am not "happy" about this setup it also isn't anything I can complain about, especially considering it cost 30 bucks for me get, just because its old it doesnt mean its bad, I love using old stuff, especially if it still works just fine. The high end standard many people see and aim for is such a negative result of society saying you need it and making you want it to not feel bad, but honestly, as long as YOU like the setup you're using and it works for you, be happy with it, no matter if its 100 bucks or 2000 bucks, as long as its fun, its good! Also, a little tip, if you want to get a deal by taking older hardware, make sure theyre still compatible with stuff you wanna use, my cpu as an example doesnt have AVX2 which some modern games want you to have, I had to sacrifice ability to play one game when I gave away my laptop with a Ryzen 5 3550H/rx560x to then use the i7-3770/1050 ti combo

[@baumthetree]

@@NoBodysGamer I am from Germany

[@RicardoMontania]

I run the 1050Ti with a i3-10100F and I have no issues, I can play RDR2 on high settings while getting 50-60 fps which is absolutely great for me. Everything else for every day use runs smooth af. I might upgrade the card someday but it can handle everything I care about just fine.

[@baumthetree]

@@RicardoMontania I now passed on my 1050 Ti to my brother and bought an RX 580, its performing way better, I am gonna miss the opportunity to use my GPU for AI stuff tho

[@shangerdanger]

i had a pc up on marketplace with a 1080ti and i7700k cpu. plenty of power despite being old parts, but i couldn't get more than $400 for it. had to drop the price so many times and someone finally took it. i wish i could have sent this video to all the idiots that didn't buy my computer

[@tet5uo]

I'm still using my 1080ti and 8700k till they die. Parts so expensive I gotta get the max lifespan, lol.

[@Call_Me_Pickle]

Dude! I'm in this EXACT situation. I mean exactly. It's currently at $300 and I still have no takers! The GPU alone should be worth that! I don't know what people's aversion is to older stuff. So annoying.

[@squidwardo7074]

a 7 year old 1080ti is about the same as a brand new 3060. crazy good deal

[@djmim0]

​@@Call_Me_Pickle last month i bought 3070ti for 300. Soooo i don't know about 1080ti.

[@Tim_593]

@@Call_Me_Pickle I dont know whether thats like an NA Thing, but here in Germany I had to camp listings for many weeks to even get a good deal. Most people sell their old stuff for like 50 bucks less than when they bought it originally 5 years ago. Maybe move here and I buy all you stuff? xd

[@d.wolfin152]

Fun fact, the transistors in a cpu can, and in most cases should, last up to 30 years.

[@chrisbaker8533]

In completely controlled lab conditions, sure. Reality is way, way more complicated.

[@jebus56162]

Still an incredibly impressive​ lifespan all things considered, they'll last far beyond the hardware's relevance @@chrisbaker8533

[@randomblock1_]

Only 30 years? Is that under full load? I don't think they're going to go bad that fast under normal use.

[@OriginalUser2023]

So I shoudn't throw away my ryzen 9 7900x and upgrade when the next gen arrives?

[@masterkamen371]

It's more complicated than that. The 386 era of PCs has already reached the age where the silicon itself is failing. In fact, they've been dying en masse for more than a decade now. It's undoubtably made worse by the complete lack of cooling back then (so a 1.55W CPU would have constantly ran at 80 degrees or so) Which is my point, how hot a component runs directly influences its life. I have a pile of dead Celerons, motherboards and PSUs because they've been running at more than 100 degrees Celsius constantly, enclosed in an entertainment machine cabinet with poor airflow and high ambient temperatures. They didn't even survive ten years. So to maximize your component's life, ensure it's properly cooled. If you use your components to the max and care about the hardware, get a better cooler. A stock cooler will be fine for most things, but if you're running very demanding games or overclocking, it will dramatically shorten your CPU's lifecycle.

[@latioseon7794]

Something to note, these OEM machines very often use proprietary connectors and parts, swapping out the PSU might need special motherboard adapters and sometimes even a GPU might not physically fit

[@shrishpotdar343]

That's one thing, i got myself a old SFF hp office desktop and well it's not really upgradable, no psu upgrade due to SFF and it can't fit most of the parts due to lack of connectors in the psu .

[@alexhaze9709]

Good point, someone could always get a GTX 1650 not exactly a great GPU but powered off the PCIe no need for power adapter and is tiny so would fit even in a small OEM case.

[@jepulis6674]

@littlemeg137Always a great idea to use a random adapter self-imported. That way insurance pays you and you pay the insurance company if it starts a fire.

[@easymodegamer501]

Hey, another Latios fan! It’s rare to see them in the wild.

[@Theweldingmillennial]

Yeah for sure. Better to invest in a good case and keep it for the long run. I spent way to much money replacing parts on one of these recycled e-waste machines for my son’s first computer. Had a motherboard fry, bought a used one, then the factory HP power supply shorted, which took out the power supply and the second motherboard. Ordered a 3rd after market motherboard only to find out it won’t fit my case or power supply. Ended up buying all the parts to get this 10yo system running. That was back in 2021-22. Never doing that e-waste crap again. Just ordered parts for my other son’s first computer. Ryzen 5500GT, B450 board, 16GB DDR4, 256SSD, power supply, case. $380 shipped. No GPU but he’s only 5yo. Saving old trash OEM computers isn’t worth it. Oh and this is my first AMD cpu.

[@satanclaws666]

Shhhhhh Linus, don’t let the school districts see this when they are getting their laptops

[@Joe20110530]

HDD is slow but that 4GB ram is the culprit for the whole system being super slow.

[@dreadfulbadger]

Fr. I think all of that is used by windows 11

[@xthelord1668]

4gb was making the OS hit pagefile instantly which just further shows why you should not install OS's on hard drives yes 16gb would probably make this thing more snappy it would not be that big of a difference because 2 non HT cores are E-waste and will struggle with OS alone if anything this is a good showing on why you should think a bit when looking to build a setup where slower 2 8gb sticks are actually better than a faster single 16gb stick of RAM another thing is windows by default these days has RAM compression enabled (known as SysMain in services) which will hammer CPU to save space and if you were to disable that you can gain some performance back so yeah; don't buy modern low end and go buy yourself a last gen mid range or even older high end because used market is actually full of solid deals as long as you have patience

[@Daunlouded]

It's probably just the CPU. RAM and HDD alone (or together) isn't making it that slow.

[@CommodoreFan64]

Yeah even on a lightweight 64bit Linux distro install 4GB is barely enough, I don't even want to think about trying this on Win 10, or Win 11. 😵

[@bluedinnerbox1370]

It’s probably both. I used similar specs pc a while back and found out that if you have either SSD or 8G of RAM windows is at least useable. I have a pentium machine with HDD but 12g of RAM and a mba with 4g of ram and SSD running windows, they are not fast, but basic web browsing is fine

[@rxpt0rs]

Wow, Linus' beard grew back so fast!

[@blue-spy-j4g]

yeah, almost like its old footage or something

[@Alfie0001]

@@blue-spy-j4g almost like it's a fucking joke

[@YousefMohamedAbdulMoniem]

@@blue-spy-j4g learn the definition of a joke brother

[@SyukriLajin]

should have made a reshoot with beardless linus waiting for the windows to load rofl

[@LJCG777]

I wonder what he uses for his face care procedures, it was fast

[@gonthetroll]

Never thought that I would see a "New PC" that is slower than my i3 4005u laptop

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

Atlteast with ssd and lot of ram that thing should be fine for basic task . My old brother laptop that have been sold last year was completely unusable despite having core i5 8250u, cuz it still use hdd as boot drive

[@heyitsdrew]

I had something similar just until last year. it was 2nd hand i3-2130, it had more ram than u could need, a similar hard drive, and it was just like this... forever loading, I couldn't take it anymore. it even had the same 1030 gt! I since upgraded to another mobo that supports i7-7700, with nvme drive. and a 1650 low profile card. now I have windows 11!

[@Paras-ot2qo]

You got dell Inspiron 15?

[@TheHammerGuy94]

Laptops are always ever marching forward in tech The form factor dominate the windows and mac space Normie tech users will prioritize laptops when shopping for a windows laptop due to portability and because they are well integrated, if one irraplacable component dies, it usually takes the rest of the system with it. First party service centers often screw up their customers' critical repairs, and most laptop users rarely put the effort to look for actually reliable repair shops, since they are in a sea of sketchy ones. This explains why the average steam PC never goes slower (except the GPU) like, 6 cores is the most common CPU with 2.5 Ghz clock speed??? Why is the 1650 the most common GPU? last I checked, no one buys this card because laptops have this as the bare minimum.

[@ToniaGlitched]

wait, how did I find someone with the exact same CPU of my 2nd worse laptop on a channel like this? (the worst being a Pentium T3400 I got for free, and the best being an i7 4510U I also got for free)

[@Woofadnb]

8:05 "20mb's a second, thats atrocious" while im running on 4 and thinking its pretty decent...

[@VerifiedNobody]

He meant 20MBps on a 10gbps network is atrocious. Not that 20MBps itself is atrocious.

[@the_undead]

​@@VerifiedNobodyIf you live in a town or city in today's day and age and have less than 100 MBps download speed then you objectively have bad internet, If you live in the middle of nowhere, you're probably going to be close to The speed they got in this video, but even out in the middle of nowhere you can get pretty decent internet these days

[@dexbahl]

@@Woofadnb to be fair ltt has a 10 gig network so that is pretty bad

[@adamkluckner3429]

​@@the_undeadI live in the middle of nowhere and pay $50 a month for Internet that gets download speed of 95MB on steam, anyone complaining either lives in a less Internet fortunate country or they are stealing the neighbors wifi lol

[@the_undead]

@@adamkluckner3429 I'm going to assume you live somewhere in Europe or you're one of the lucky ones in the states. Because there are people in the states who either have garbage internet or are paying a king's Ransom to get good internet

[@kagesong]

Y'know, people say Linus is out of touch. But he still got sticker shock at $320. He has no reason to blink at that number, but he knows that it's unreasonable for that computer, because he does stay in touch with actual value to real consumers.

[@the_undead]

What I don't think helps with a lot of the people claiming linuses out of touch, is they don't seem to understand the difference between price to performance and price. Something can be very expensive but not be overpriced because you're building a PC to compete with the Mac pro on price and just seeing how much better it is. But a $300 system built with new components that is practically speaking incapable of running a modern operating system is simply unacceptable

[@aaronmarchbanks5394]

@@the_undeadI wish they tested with an ssd that cost the same as the hdd to remove the hdd as the bottleneck

[@the_undead]

@@aaronmarchbanks5394 the objective was to make the slowest PC not the cheapest PC That is still effective, also, I don't know if you can get an SSD at the same price as that HDD

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

​@@aaronmarchbanks5394 As linus mentioned in the video, that loading wasn't just the fault of the hard drive. That cpu wasn't helping at all.

[@kagesong]

@@the_undead well I know I have no income and I trust ltt to help me know what's in my budget when I have one

[@Unknown-64209]

Thanks Linus for giving a shoutout to my pc!

[@kanezhang5813]

thanks steve! I mean linus!

[@aquss33]

how the hell did you end up buying anything close to that? Isn't the name "celeron" an immediate red flag and also a GPU with the 2 last digits less than 50? I sold my friend a 160€ PC with an i7 2nd gen and a gtx 960 4gb GPU, complete with a 240GB ssd and a 500GB HDD, I profited like 60€ on that thing + he's complaining that I scammed him, which I might have, a bit... but I do have to profit somehow... how the hell do you even begin to think about buying such shitty parts, it is literally beyond me (I am assuming you know at least a bit about PCs since you're watching Linus, it could have just been your parents that bought it, but if you did, how?)

[@ChucklesTheChicken]

@@aquss33 how the hell do you not understand that it's a joke

[@smadayeoj]

8:05 I've been trying to choose between a Celeron and a chilled 96-core Threadripper, this helps a lot!

[@1tgb4yb25ub5ub]

buy my phones CPU I'll take 50c

[@Resuone]

I would recommend the 96-core Threadripper if you want a more budget build.

[@epicgamer66941]

hard choice, like the gt210 vs rtx4090

[@tyttuut]

​@@epicgamer66941 clearly you've never enjoyed the sheer performance of an 8400 GS

[@epicgamer66941]

@@tyttuut What about a riva 128 now that's performance

[@CatsOverdrive]

09:49 - Reminded me of that old joke, where the task manager froze up, so he brought up another task manager to close it.

[@muscleman9616]

Schools: I'll take your entire stock!

[@djmim0]

Yeah, but they need to buy new, because of warranty and if they use money from grants, you can't go second hand. It's stupid rule, especially for technology stuff but it's a rule.

[@backpackvacuum9520]

I would be interested to see the slowest build running Linux and see the difference in responsiveness. Windows 11 is HEAVY.

[@rubenbuitrago8305]

or windows 10 ltsc

[@BlauNate]

Came to say the same thing, throw some light OS on it. it really shouldn't be that unusable. those specs were more than reasonable a decade or 2 ago.

[@ChaZcaTriX]

Windows 10/11 are lighter than Vista and 7.

[@melomelo420]

​@@ChaZcaTriXwtf, win 11 lighter than win7??

[@SamsTechLab]

No, they aren't ​@@ChaZcaTriX

[@mrhenry7775]

20 mega per second is twice as fast as MOST people outside big cities get on download anyway...

[@peterberning]

in the US maybe but high speed internet is pretty accessible in Canada. like I don't live in a city and I got 400-500 down.

[@Hoaxe72]

Yeah my internet downloading steam games is 10-20mbps, it maxes at 30

[@flamingscar5263]

Starlink has actually changed that, I'm no Elon Stan, actually I can't stand him, but I can't deny when he funds something that is good The average internet speed in rural areas in the US in 2023 was a bit over 100mbs, last year is when starlink became more readily available In 2020 it was 40mbs

[@TehDenizenz]

"20 MB/s... [is] atrocious!" Meanwhile I'm getting 1 MB/s max... Don't you just loooove the USA's privatized ISP monopolies?

[@Johanneslol11]

I think it depends on where you are. I am not living in a big city in the Netherlands but I still have 1GB up and down

[@okolenmi7511]

9:40 - "This is CS2. We are not trying to play Cyberpunk" Someone should say him...

[@AngryMonkeyza]

This takes me back to the days when I had a I3 2100, 8gb of ram and a gt740. Those days were only 3 years ago...

[@jamdva8176]

Had GT440, I3 2125, 4gb of DDR3. Painful renders and gaming at 720p (Lowest), tweaking settings to get one at medium, 30 fps looked so good. Only 6 years ago.

[@himanshutripathi7441]

i still have i3 2100 and gtx 550ti. The machine was a benchmark in 2012 :D Today it crushes numbers and compiles kernels haaha

[@scarry46]

Still rocking i3 3220, GT 610 with 4gigs ram.

[@jamdva8176]

@@himanshutripathi7441gt had 1 gb of gddr3 or ddr3, so not that bad.

[@jamdva8176]

@@scarry46 good for you.

[@Kavaeric]

Given the recent video about building a $500 console-beating machine, I'm wondering if in future this is turned into some kind of miniseries or feature video that compared various kinds of "cheap" build, almost Secret Shopper-style though without the customer support angle. Cheapest PC with brand new components, cheapest PC with used components, cheapest PC that matches a console, cheapest PC with new components Linus/someone would feel comfortable recommending to a friend etc. An all-round comparison of different budget build approaches.

[@ryoukaip]

nice idea

[@thebreatho]

yeah that'd be nice, give $500 to a non tech savvy lmg member and tell them "do your best"

[@cdw97]

$500 tech upgrade instead of $5,000 lmao

[@TheVilivan]

I would definitely watch that!

[@ericxpenner]

I bought a used PC from an office sale in 2011 with a Core 2 Quad. It was about 4 years old when I bought it, and I got a staggering amount of use out of it. To this day one of the best purchases I've made thanks to that company going out of business. Amazing Craigslist find.

[@harryproductions5107]

Core 2 quad is a legendary cpu, the thing just kept going and going.

[@ericxpenner]

@@harryproductions5107 Yeah man it was incredible.

[@angryparrot]

That case thankfully got upgraded a few years ago and has acceptable front intake through the mesh. Originally, it didn't have a mesh front and only had a tiny intake gap at the bottom. It was wretched.

[@dizzyishere999]

Buying older high end hardware always beats buying the new lower end stuff. Edit: Just for an example, I still use my GTX 1080ti to this day. For a card that came out in 2017 it's a beast. Even beating my RTX 3060 at some points.

[@perry92964]

as long as it isnt fried

[@NoName5589]

My main system is still running on an old Asus Z87K motherboard with a mildly overclocked i7-4790K and I still manage a minimum of 60FPS in every game I've ever played. That's far and beyond the capability of some of this low end stuff that still comes out today if you try to go dirt cheap

[@keepmovingforward5576]

Serious Question 4070 Ti Super Or 3090 ?

[@111tykatypka]

i got xeon e5 2650 v2 for cheap dirt price and it works fine, the problem is i got gpu bottleneck since my cpu is only working for 20/30% my gpu is gtx 970 btw@@NoName5589

[@dizzyishere999]

@keepmovingforward5576 If they're similar in price I'd actually say 4070Ti cause it crushes the 3090. You'd be better off saving for a 4080 though cause price to performance and all that.

[@charlie_nolan]

That long loading immediately brought me back to the horribly slow Windows XP/7 school computers of my youth.

[@billy101456]

My school still had those painfully slow think pads in 2011/2012. Literally took half the class to get booted into ie.

[@charlie_nolan]

@@billy101456 we had Windows 7 into 2021. XP into 2017. They had netbooks until at least 2017. I know one of the IT guys there and they still had an XP machine unknowingly in service until a few months ago.

[@zeendaniels5809]

Ikr? It reminds me of my old desktop, and my daily routine: Power it on just entering the house, leaving it loading while I was doing the usual stuff (storing everything, changing clothes, bathroom break) just to not die of starvation watching it load 😂

[@godpop]

bro computers are still like this in school or even workplaces

[@billy101456]

@@godpop I would have thought most of those old xp think pads would have died off by now. Even the dells running office 03 ran better

[@CentreMetre]

Ive only just realised, people say sluggish, but then say a snails pace (never heard 'a slugs pace' or 'snailish') and use snails to visually represent slow speeds, never slugs.

[@W3lol1]

Maybe because slugs are harder to notice or they get mixed up with snails very often

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

​@@W3lol1How? Slugs and snails are very different.

[@BeetleBuns]

maybe it's because they're referencing 2 different creatures with those 2 different sayings that have been ingrained into english vernacular? Why would they change what's already common speech patterns?

[@Deltarious]

For me the "slowest" case would be the one that increases the thermals the most and ideally causes throttling, which given the case market probably is quite achievable

[@Wawas1]

The low-end market has pretty much been left in the dust since the gpu shortage, every company seems to have concluded to not improve the budget market because forcing everyone to spend more means more money for them. At least the used market is a thing again

[@Keepskatin]

Hell yes,I don't mind buying used if it's high-end and affordable

[@octane613]

I mean is that not a valid reason? This videos whole point was to show that low-end stuff is pointless. You're not gonna be happy with it. If the only thing on the market is mid to high end, eventually the used market will be full of older mid to high end, like the 1080. It's still a very valid card. Low end for a gaming setup is pointless.

[@kuekejuu5057]

used market is good for everyone. -good for manufacturer since they don't need to produce low margin product and giving low end segment to last gen product -good for seller when they decided to upgrade, their old equipment doesn't become e-waste -good for buyer because they get product at lower cost -good for environment

[@Gajaczek93]

@@kuekejuu5057 It's bad for manufacturer because it lowers the demand for their product and for the seller because of lower margins on older stock. Truest me, if NVidia/AMD/intel could make their products literally implode when warranty ends without backlash, they would do it.

[@ganr1277]

You better build a Raspberry Pi system than build a low-end PC

[@vicviper2005]

I genuinely don’t know why Intel still even makes celeron processors

[@thexenoxproject1]

For those super slim laptops that need something with a really low tdp

[@FireFoxDestroyer]

Well now they don’t it’s just intel processor now

[@charginginprogresss]

@@thexenoxproject1it's full of mobile i5 with 5 watt tdp that run laps around celerons

[@thexenoxproject1]

@charginginprogresss not all have those though, and it's a good way for companies like acer (who seem to be the worst at this) to put a cheap cpu in the laptop for non tech savvy users to get scammed

[@bigtitmaster]

Mostly for nas devices I guess

[@votch2798]

I think it's worth mentioning that a Steam Deck is also a viable option at this price point. A refurbished 500gb LCD model from Valve goes for £300 with a 1 year warranty. Of course, you can use a desktop for more than just gaming, having SteamOS comes with many caveats, Deck is impossible to upgrade, and many popular multiplayer games have linux-unfriendly anti-cheat. Still, it's been my main gaming device for over a year and a half and I couldn't be happier. Not to mention many game devs optimise their games for the Steam Deck, and several even work with Valve directly to bring support (Spider-Man Remastered, Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3, Armored Core VI, Cyberpunk 2077, etc.)

[@linusperssonsgamingchannel7354]

At lowest settings sure.

[@snakeface5652]

It is an alright option, you can even use it permanently connected to a USB C dock if all you want is a desktop. I now use an ROG Ally as my only gaming PC. You just have to be fine with playing games at 720p, which to me personally, 720p and using RSR to upscale to 1080p isn't too bad, as just someone who very casually plays some indie games.

[@markkrivor3911]

Yikes... I bought a used PC off of Facebook Marketplace for $400: 1080Ti and a Ryzen 5 5600X... WAYYY better than whatever this hunk of junk is!

[@SCHMOBEX]

8:00 the "atrocious" download speed is a "decent" internet connection that costs ~40-50€ a month in germany..... gotta love the copper line vectoring

[@RRareGaming]

good to hear cuz we got fiber here and we get 6-7mbps, my friends get ike 3-4mbps xd

[@aalert]

@@RRareGaming I just saw an ad for 25 gbps for $75 in Switzerland. Maybe we get that too in 10-20 years.

[@XD-tw4uj]

i have 2mbps and it costs more

[@nicerhabara]

For real, best I can get is 4.5MB/s here were I live (countryside of Austria)

[@kwalletje99]

And I have max 14~16MB/s here in the Netherlands.

[@spikatrix1486]

I guess this goes to show how software has been getting bigger in size while being slower for no particular reason. Back in the day, you could still use HDDs without having to wait for every single operation.

[@Bearsinspaze]

I always wonder wtf is all those gigabytes used for in Windows, you're just browsing files!

[@9Loki11]

@Deathrape-if4kl Those are some of the stupidest words I've ever heard

[@itIsI988]

@Deathrape-if4kl Can tell you're chatting complete bullshit. There's no way any XP compatible software is playing 4K video, never mind the garbage hardware you'd probably be using.

[@megan00b8]

I mean, I get that there's some extra security and what not, but let's be honest, most of that bloat is to collect sellable user data, to run a buncho software you didn't ask for, and also just because if they focused on optimising it they couldn't release as fast and it would cost more money. I mean, for crying out loud I can't even stop unwanted third party software from opening through task scheduler because in 11 it's just as impotent for background processes as task manager. But of course, they get away with this due to the raw power of modern PCs. Back in the day when anything with a giga by it was just a fewer dream you couldn't bloat an OS with endless garbage because it would run exactly like the PC I'm the video, worse even, but nowadays what does it matter whether you boot in 4 or 5 seconds, no-one will really notice the difference so the devs get lazy and just let the modern hardware chew through it.

[@kohtalaisenleveahomer]

@@itIsI988 Latest version of VLC still supports Windows XP and GTX 900-series has drivers for XP. OS still got updates in 2014 so playing local 4K content is not impossible. I wouldn't even be surprised if 4K youtube also works, there is multiple modern browsers for XP.

[@filpoamati]

For the GT 1030 you should've gotten the DDR4 version. I had that one and it couldn't run CS:GO for it's LIFE

[@charginginprogresss]

Yeah they brag about slowest and then they buy the GDDR5 1030...

[@aquss33]

it was the HDD, I felt that it was unfair that they used a mechanical hard drive when 120GB SSDs are 9.99€

[@haosheng12]

Oh damn, they do still sell the ddr4 version brand new

[@filpoamati]

@@aquss33 ye but they were going for the SLOWEST brand new pc not the best value

[@WowSirSmallFan]

Dude, I've played csgo on a 710 ddr4 2gb. Dunno what ya sayin.

[@extralock1045]

I'm watching this with the Intel Celeron G5900T. I got the motherboard free, and got the CPU for $19 used. It does everything I need, and requires no cleaning of fans because I removed the fans. It uses barely any power, and is somewhat snappy feeling. I like using mine for light work loads, like watching videos, social media, and very small video editing tasks.

[@iliastallon8087]

Just made a used PC from an Optiplex 3050, i5-7500 and GTX 1660 S, all for 200 euros, it's amazing. And the process of finding deals was fun actually, I even found a platinum V1200 power supply from CoolerMaster for 50 euros. I love the used market!

[@slendydie1267]

It sounds fun if you dont really NEED a PC. I would try it for the fun of it.

[@hofweb]

Fair warning for those going this route: 7th gen Intel and older, with few exceptions, is not supported by Windows 11. Of course Linux will still work.

[@huskers1278]

I got a 13700 pc off ebay for $400 that I'm using as a server since I already had an 13900k lol

[@slimsqde7397]

fr bro i built a new pc recently for 320$ dollars, ryzen 5 2600 for 40$ gigabyte rx 5700 xt for 125$ and 16 gb off ddr4, oh and a msi x470 for 75$ used market but it was brand new in the box

[@Adrianwe44]

Sounds good 👌🏻

[@epickh64]

Didn't Windows 11's minimum requirements at some point specifically point out that the persistent storage needs to be an SSD rather than an HDD?

[@junjiexie]

Windows 10's minimum reqs should be an SSD But Microsoft couldn't dare to say so at the time

[@Aion_00]

Not this schools IT department.

[@ElShogoso]

I've ran windows 11 from an HDD before. It was fine for the most part, it actually runs better than 10 on that sort of drive. I'm still using that same HDD as secondary storage even now though the OS is now installed on an nvme ssd. It's actually very reliable.

[@TheMsdos25]

It's basically unusable on HDDs for anything other than web browsing, but that didn't stop Dell from shipping Optiplex 7050s with SMR boot drives.

[@No-mq5lw]

There's new low spec Win11 machines that use eMMC. Not sure exactly what version they use, but I doubt the I/O speed is much better than a hard drive.

[@dagttv]

My first computer was a dell laptop ordered from their catalog in about 2003. It proudly wore the tag "intel celeron inside". I laughed when you showed the "slowest" chip's specs (2 core 3.5 Ghz). Mine had 512mhz and 256mg's of RAM. I still played CS on it, albeit with some major issues.

[@tyttuut]

512 millihertz and 256 milligrams of RAM? This reply brought to you by the Unit Abbreviation Sticklers' Society

[@Jeff.78]

​@@tyttuutWell played🏆

[@dagttv]

@@tyttuut lol touché my friend. That’s 0.00903 oz of the good shit. RAM

[@randomgamingin144p]

you mean cs 1.6 on windows xp?

[@wispa1a]

1.4ghz celeron laptop, I still have one here.

[@para_magnus2200]

Man my download speed on my PC with a R5 5600X and a 3070 is 4MB/s cause we don’t get fibre optic on my street. Just on my street. The whole rest of my city has it. Except from my street. Yeah.

[@masteraura]

8:07 "20mps that's atrocious" Me at home that being my peak 😢

[@tillschumacher4889]

me with 7MB/s at peak 🥲

[@Somekidthatsontheinternet]

Big L get better wifi

[@colematlock7755]

8:12 "20 mb download is atrocious". dude my internet is 12 mb max and I pay $110 USD a month, I would kill for a 20 download.

[@zulazhar1259]

is the internet in us that expensive omg

[@Iliketo420]

Nahh i have 300mb and pay 60

[@jamegumb7298]

I pay €45 for 1Gbit. Fiber. And I feel ripped off. Man oh man.

[@davidlp3019]

Lol Australia 80 aud a month for 50mbps down 20 Mbps up linus is spoilt

[@EeveeCoombs]

literally what I was thinking lmao@@davidlp3019

[@pm5k00]

Slowest PC would have been useable with a sata ssd, and dual channel (2x4GB) RAM, and the cost difference would be miniscule. I would have liked to see how much faster it would be with those upgrades mentioned.

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

It's a 2 thread cpu, that's outdated even 15 years ago

[@AstralDragn]

yea thing can only process to apps running at once, so its constantly jumping. that four thread cpu they talked about at the start would've made the system, well, basically double the response time. it wouldn't of really gotten things done too much faster, but it would've made at least interacting with the thing a bit more tolerable.

[@rolandohiebert2144]

They did say slowest not cheapest.

[@imnota]

Yeah I made a similar comment, this really is a vid about the slowest PC, not the most cost efficient. For 380$ you can make something 10x faster, but it's not really the point of the video. You can make a computer with a ryzen 5 4600G, 8gb ram and an SSD for 380$...

[@Emetsys]

Yeah, they are exacerbating the truth because the goal of the video is to warn people about buying the cheapest new parts instead of getting used old workstation and GPU.

[@psychickumquat]

You dont even have to do local products or ebay if you want discounts. A lot of big box stores sell "open box" products that got returned for cosmetic reasons or missing hardware and while they don't always have warranty, they can be returned to the seller within a reasonable period so you're at least not SOL if it's bad. So if you don't mind some minor imperfections or scrounging up a few cables, you can save a lot of money while still having some recourse.

[@nakoda1610]

'20 MB/s, thats atrocious', meanwhile me at 4MB/s (bottlenecked by my provider, i pay for atleast double that, and no way in hell they gnna install fiber within 10 yrs from now)

[@NoName5589]

I know, I felt so targeted 😭 We only have one provider out here and I can only reliably get 1MB/s

[@2Fingz75]

@@NoName5589saaame bro 1.2MB/s xD

[@gakm4931]

I know the pain. I was at 1.5Mbps download from the provider for many years. Within the past few years I finally was able to get 15 down 1 upload but I never reach that. 12Mbps down and 750Kbps up is about what I can usually expect

[@popifrex1993]

At least you're bottlenecked by your ISP and not your pc 😂

[@leonro]

I dunno guys, I never lived with such slow internet, so I would probably rather give up on it than to put up with something that slow. Or maybe you could make use of an unlimited mobile data plan?

[@The18107j]

I'd love to see a speed comparison between this computer and the latest Raspberry Pi.

[@seandoesstuff4172]

My bets are on the raspberry pi 😂

[@levygaming3133]

Aren’t raspberry pi’s quad cores?

[@Cyberguy42]

I think it's worth remembering that their 'slowest' system was a completely custom build, not from an OEM. In other words, no one is trying to sell a new system with those particular specs.

[@rolandohiebert2144]

The whole point was to go as slow as possible but with new parts, not to show cheap stuff being bad.

[@Midwestmint]

True, basically any prebuilt pc will be better, but I think the point was to say why are they even selling these parts when windows can barely run on them

[@resneptacle]

​@@MidwestmintBecause not everything runs on Windows and not every part is meant to go with the others. For example, no one in their right mind would use an HDD as a boot drive, they're still cheap mass storage however. Realistically, once you replace the HDD, you have a fine web browser system. With an i3 or i5, you can actually do some work on it.

[@ukgamer2817]

I think setting the desktop resolution to 1080p would've been more fair however idk if the difference in UI navigation would make this even close to usable. I'm still loving the random hardware videos as usual

[@derwissenskiosk8041]

The boot time is actualy pretty interessting! It shows that MS has eaten quiet alot of the performance gains of fast storage by bloating it up!

[@deathtrooper2048]

Not even just M$, but gaming as a whole, so many games on console still having pop-in despite the console manufacturers forcing SSDs on us. The worst thing is when M$ forces you to use an SSD for games that would work perfectly on a HDD or even worked before on a HDD.

[@bryanbaskin7880]

How much quicker would that PC have been with 8GB instead of 4GB? The broader point is correct, but I suspect this was the most significant pain point in the build and cheap to address.

[@luserspaz]

Yeah, I winced when I heard him say 4GB. I wouldn't have put that in a build 15 years ago.

[@ARBUZIK.dudkin]

I remember a couple of years ago a friend said that his pc did problems for him so he upgraded from 2gb to 4gb of ram. I was absolutely shocked that windows even managed to run on 2gb of ram. I at the time wanted to run Minecraft faster so I upgraded from 8gb to 16gb, btw I actually didn’t know that Minecraft had a 2gb limit if you don’t change it in command. Noticed it only after I upgraded and it still ran the same.

[@NekohiKohi]

For $380 you can buy a brand new Ryzen 5000 series APU, with 16gb of decent ram, B550 board, 500gb ssd, reputable 600w PSU, and a decent case. This will give you decent gaming experience and will be easily upgradable by looking around for a good used GPU if you get the budget in the future.

[@radugrigoras]

You are paying 380$ for junk still and no GPU. Used route is miles better. If you really hunt and haggle you can get an i7 8700 with 32gb of ram and a 500gb ssd for 200$ USD, will either be a dell or Lenovo most likely. I’d splurge on the 1080ti, and another 50$ on a large tube of MX-6 and thermal pads. Repaste cpu, GPU and replace pads and you’d have yourself a pretty decent gaming rig. Also what he didn’t take into account is the OS, the refurb will come with a legit windows 11, where as the self built will not, depending on which route you go for getting said license that’s another 20-100$.

[@ivangerginov5648]

If you're going to buy new, get the cheapest thing on the newest platform so you can upgrade later. If you don't care about upgrading in the future, just get near the best used parts on an older platform. Not the best ones since those keep their premium pricing.

[@ivangerginov5648]

@@radugrigoras Nice idea You can get Windows for free tho

[@NekohiKohi]

@@radugrigoras There is plenty of people who aren't comfortable buying used stuff, and definitely even more people who wouldn't go ahead and repaste/pad their gpu. Additionally if you go brand new route you have the warranty to fall back on. You forgot to include a new PSU for the office build if you are going to be adding a decent GPU to it as well. As for the windows license, I doubt anyone on a tight budget would be bothered by a small watermark on the corner of their screen, buying windows is not really mandatory nowadays. Additionally in terms of future upgrades the R5 5500GT will perform much better than and 8700 and will be less likely to become a bottleneck in the future. Finally, the sad thing is that motherboards die, any computer with a 8700 in it will have a mobo from around 5 or 6 years ago, there is definitely something to be said about longevity of that setup. If someone is comfortable with used hardware and finds a great deal on a tower then they can go ahead and get it but not everyone is willing to do all of that...

[@NekohiKohi]

@@ivangerginov5648 The problem right now is that the newest platform is completely out of budget in terms of pcs under $400, AMD has pretty much abandoned the budget segment for a while and while Intel released some i3 processors their price to performance ratio is not better than 12th gen stuff.

[@TreyWait]

Working in a shop I constantly have to explain to customers that NEW does not equal FAST. People bring in brand new cheap laptops with Celerons and minimal non upgradable storage that are straight up trash, when the old laptop they are upgrading from, like a 6th gen i5, are orders of magnitude more usable.

[@tr7zw]

8:00 quick reminder at Linus that 20mb/s is still more than twice as fast as the average German internet...

[@briefdragon713]

sad but its true... i know it.

[@Milennin]

How is that possible? Even in the middle of nowhere in Sweden in the mid 00's the internet went well over 100MB/s.

[@amnesia998]

@@Milennin I think you put a big B instead of the small one there my mistake.

[@y5fmw]

I'd love to see a video now on different companies warranty process and if they're worth paying the new price for the company warranty

[@gazehound]

20MBps really isn't that atrocious for download speed. I mean, it's not fast, but many many people run internet plans at that speed just fine. I was happy to upgrade to a faster one when I moved but it served me well.

[@fostena]

I'm stuck with 4MBps, and I don't live in the woods. My town has fiber, but not my neighborhood!

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@fostena Yeah, that's slow as hell, insane that it even exists still - you'd probably get a better connection in the woods on top. I'm stuck with 25MBps here. And that solely due to the fact that they gracefully gave access to it after upgrading half the city to 1GBps a few years ago with the plan to hopefully upgrade to 1GBps to everyone within the next 2 years from now. And they also give a really, really fair pricing with only charging 80% of the 1gigs price for 250k as the cheapest option, if you want to you can have less - at only 75% the price for 100k and 70% of the price for a 50k connection.... So to anyone who actively uses their internet and needs speed it's either getting the 250k and getting ripped off and to anyone else who either doesn't need that much or doesn't use it that often it's getting ripped off even more one way or the other.

[@RRareGaming]

bro we have fiber and on my pc max i get 6mbps, on my ubuntu laptop 10mbps and on my win8 laptop like 2mbps

[@fostena]

@@RRareGaming that may to be a CPU bottleneck issue. Have you checked what speeds you can achieve locally, like between the two laptops?

[@RRareGaming]

​@@fostenayeah, my win8 laptop(3120m) only manages around 25mbps locally, whereas my ubuntu(3110m) one manages about 100~, well the weird thing is my pc has a 9900kf yet its still only getting 6mbps..

[@NVUSAttitude]

When my friends have old pcs, i like to take them in and repurpose them. I just used an old build i kept around and gave it to my younger brother to have an entry level pc. The specs were an asus prebuilt with an nvidia 1060 6GB and a veeeeery old intel i5 (forgot the exact name) but when he upgrades parts of that build, im going to take THOSE parts and put them together in a new case for my dad so he can use it as a slightly beefy office build + capable of doing some light gaming if he (or my even younger brother) take an interest. Its teaching me a lot on the side as well, i love doing this

[@cory7876]

Great lessons here - I went through a similar experience with entry level sim racing stuff, used stuff is good (don't ignore), some things are more expensive because they are literally good, don't overpay for entry level stuff.

[@nickw3255]

Throwback to when 5 minutes to boot into windows was common... Also when I was a teenager, my download speeds on my parents' internet averaged at most around 280 Kb/s (despite them paying for 20 Mb/s, which did eventually get fixed... sort of). Downloading games sometimes could take over a day...

[@0Rookie0]

Ahh, the days of letting a 3 minute video load over dinner. Or watching a full screen image take a minute (or three) to load in. How I wish I could never go back. And, I remember when my mom sprung for the fancy 12MB/s for her online schooling and teleconferencing for work. 😍

[@_kitaes_]

it was never common 2 minutes, sure, but 5 minutes... it's filled with bloat

[@kielwhitt10]

This video was so slow to come out, Linus still has a beard.

[@brandonsimoncini]

“We’re looking at 20 MEGABYTES per second. That’s atrocious.” Linus confirmed Canadian, not Australian

[@nuclearchef-san8304]

While I never do used pc components I do keep old ones, then I give them to family/friend/coworkers who might need them and are usually better than what they currently have.. When I upgrade/build a new pc and have it up and running and tested out then I offload the old one..Much luv from Tokyo,Japan.

[@spartex100]

Average school pc

[@dabois012]

My schools pcs still run windows 7

[@crazya8038]

Bro this os faster then my chrome book

[@Glaze_TPF]

​@dabois012 my current gaming pc was upgraded from win10 to 7, and still is

[@bladactania]

Would have been interesting to see them upgrade each post in the slow machine, one "tier" at a time to find what the low budget limit is for a serviceable machine and how much difference each upgrade makes per dollar.

[@kennethmartin9199]

My work computer purchased from Dell with the explicit use case of running Autodesk Inventor (3D Modeling Software) was purchased brand new with a GTX 730 in it.... The graphics driver support being discontinued gave me enough reasoning to go to my boss and he allowed me to pick out my new computer WITHOUT corporate intervention. Amazing these legacy components can still be put in 'new' pre-builds is wild.

[@JasonTaylor-po5xc]

You should compare that system to one of the mini PCs you can buy for about the same price - like a BeeLink, MinisForum, etc - any number of decent and cheap options all in for less than $380. They all use laptop parts but they would run cycles around this thing - even fine for casual gaming (30fps at 1080p on low settings). Or, consider comparing this system to a decent "value" system with good parts for the same cost (or less) - really showing the difference in picking up the right parts for your budget.

[@kristinnkristinsson1369]

Definitely. The power supply and ATX case are such large fixed costs that you can't get good value in terms of price/performance when you go for the absolute lowest end parts.

[@JasonTaylor-po5xc]

@@kristinnkristinsson1369 Another example is the use of DDR3. Often times, older tech isn't cheaper because it is no longer mass produced, and it can even become _more_ expensive the older it is.

[@CarlizWang]

That aint nothing compared to a laptop I helped to fix the other day. My friend's parents' budget laptop from 2015 had some issues booting into Windows, nothing major, I got it sorted out quite fast. But boy the darn thing is slow! I legit was staring at the login screen for over 10min to get to desktop😴

[@sarongas1999]

Speaking of scrapyard wars, when’s the new one :)

[@samothy236]

13:31 I have a i5-6500 in an office style computer I got my hands on and I can download games 800-900mbps over local network (so like ~110MB/s).

[@OutletAudits]

Linus - "Its still not fast" Me - *Has 10mb internet*

[@Shadow0fd3ath24]

New i5 12600k, used ebay 2080ti(still beats a 3070ti barley and a 4060ti easily), new 32gb of ram, used Z690 motherboard, and a 1tb NVME ssd with a Kraken x62 cooler only cost me $790 in a nice case and all...barely more than your previous budget build. Good cheap PCs are possible more now than any time in the past 3 years

[@jesusbarrera6916]

every single part of your PC bar the 2080ti (which is on par with the 3070ti) would be $500 so I would love to know how you got a 2080ti for $175

[@Shadow0fd3ath24]

@@jesusbarrera6916 miscalculated, it was more like $790 with black friday deals and such...but still thats a beast of a 1440p rig even the high end Gigabyte Aorus elite Z690 board is $150 right now on amazon(mine was less), i5 12600k is now $187 new, 32gb of ram is like $60...Kraken x62 was bought on sale for $89.99 on black friday. Case and ssd were like $80 as well. 2080ti was bought last year for $250 in ebay auction

[@jesusbarrera6916]

@@Shadow0fd3ath24 lol you changed the price of your setup by over $100 pathetic...

[@Elkarlo77]

To be fair: The 500GB WD Blue HDD were slow in 2013, compared to a normal HDD with 7200 rpm. We had 120 PC's delivered with them. And they are astrocious Slow on 8GB Systems and Win 7 with i5 4570. After Sata SSD upgrade they were completly different Machines. Interstingly we have exactly those Acer Aspire around, today i was upgrading some with their 128GB Sata SSD to 500GB, as those were dying. Great little Machines, we got them upgraded to 16GB now 500GB Sata together with the 8400 they are realy great and will live on a long time at school. Best part: Generic Parts. PSU is standard biggest Problem with Prebuild and Office Builds are the PSU, ATX, SFX or TFX Systems are great bud sadly lot of manufacturers have non standard PSU and connectors inside.

[@andreivaughn1468]

Even running Windows 7 on a 5000 rpm isn't the best - I don't see how their slow build was compatible with windows 10/11 because Microsoft definitely doesn't recommend or suggest running those on a hard disk at all.

[@sl06bhytmar]

LTT: Buy the cheapest business laptops and... roast them... They're very very very very very horrible and bad price value.

[@random_stuff_channel]

Linus tech tips: *builds slowest pc* Schools: gimme

[@Taorakis]

What happened to the Gigabyte GTX 1080 you bought? Because the one that is in the PC when you show it off in the end is a NVidia Founders Edition.

[@rrokas]

Prob didn’t actually buy the card cause they have them laying around at their office

[@SecoOrlov]

@@Taorakis the gigabyte version is usually better than FE so it's still something very nice

[@Kyle-xv5kv]

The GPU at 12:21 aint the same one as whats in the machine, the GPU in the machine is an Nvidia/Founders style card. How much price difference is that card to the one shown in the screenshot?

[@jpstanley0]

The CPU is the least of your problems. You have insufficient RAM and you’re swapping to spinning rust. Spend another $15 to double your RAM and upgrade to an SSD for a $30 premium and you’d have a perfectly usable machine.

[@_denzy_6310]

Spinning rust has to be the cannon name for a hard drive nowadays lmao

[@Trickzter1337]

Exactly, the reason the first pc didnt even function properly was the 4 gigs of ram, its just not enough for even windows anymore. That being said it was still garbage for the price.

[@xflyinglizardx]

i wouldn't describe celeron cpu's as "perfectly usable" for a modern windows machine

[@DeadRaider37]

The big issue is nobody optimizes their programs anymore. It's amazing what an indie game dev on a not horribly bloated system with that setup could do.

[@armorgeddon]

@@xflyinglizardx Blame the Windows spyware instead of that CPU.

[@random_stuff_channel]

Linus: "WHY ARE COMPANIES STILL SELLING THESE THINGS" Companies: "so schools have computer parts"

[@antonisautos8704]

Windows minimum requirements. The hard drive was a mistake, but another big mistake was just having 4GB of RAM. Windows will boot with that much installed but it will not like it, as you can see. I had a laptop with a similar spec. AMD A6-6310, 500GB HDD 4GB DDR3... it was stupid slow. When i added more RAM it made a HUGE difference since it wasnt using disk swap on a 5400 RPM HDD. A SSD will also speed things up too. That 2 core 2 thread CPU definitely doesnt help anything for sure. But when i took my uncles old PC with an athilon II X2 255 (2 core 2 thread) system with 3GB of DDR2 and a 500GB 5400 RPM HDD... and gave it 16GB of RAM and a SSD, it booted up in far less time. though it wasnt like you were going to play any games. I also slapped a gtx 750ti in it, that i got used. Made the system bearable for a while. Ended up snagging an i7-8700 CPU and a motherboard + cooler to boot for basically nothing and ran with that. The fact that you can still buy a 2 core CPU these days brand new is wild. Microsoft stating windows only needs 4GB of RAM is also ridiculous. In order to have a decent experience you need a minimum of 8 but id personally recommend 16 for daily use. The OS will cache a lot of files and utilize it.

[@charliefelsburg208]

12:23 that does not look like the GPU you used in the build? im a bit confused, yours looks like an NVIDIA FE and is clearly not the card you showed in the screen shot...

[@ZesPak]

LTT has a huge inventory They just find the equivalent component in their warehouse, no need to buy it again. This also adds a lot of speed for them to make this video: come up with the idea, search for the components online, make the equivalent vid, all in a day.

[@XiaOmegaX]

"if it hasn't failed in 6 years it probably wont fail" A good tenet for solid state parts that are locked from overclocking. Also, needs an explainer for what a "bathtub curve" is :). (where failures occur either immediately, or after a long time, but little or none in between)

[@joshuaminke6629]

i download at 3 megabytes per second. him saying 20 megabytes was unacceptable, hurt deep down

[@leomonaghan3933]

For comparison, three months ago I bought a used HP Z840 for $340 (shipped) that came with: XEON E5-2667 V4 MSI GTS 1080 32gb DDR4 1150w Power Supply 1TB SSD DVD R/W drive Win 11 64 bit (registered)

[@renealcerro1320]

Xeons with some moderate overclock can still be pretty amazing, I know someone running one with a 3080ti with little to none bottleneck

[@itIsI988]

@@renealcerro1320 You pay for it in high power bills though.

[@criticalthinker420]

@@itIsI988No you don't. The difference in price between would save you around $10 a year in the US. The air conditioner and heater is what drives your electric bill, not your CPU.

[@itIsI988]

@@criticalthinker420 I'm in the UK. Power hungry computer parts are still stupidly expensive to run for long periods over here.

[@criticalthinker420]

@@itIsI988Sure, if you think $10 a month is expensive, then I guess it is to you. Most people wouldn't even notice if their power bill fluctuated by $10, but sure, in the UK $10 is lots of money.

[@tsume_akuma8321]

"30MB/s That's attrocious" My connection is 10MB/s . . . . . . .

[@wali2489]

Just commented that😂

[@jesukxd8494]

Thats good. I get that in good day

[@christianbilling3540]

when you have atleast gigabit coming into the premises though (not sure he probably has better tbh) it is atrocious!

[@christianbilling3540]

in saying that i only went from 10MB/s to 70 3 years ago when moving house and its still well below what most people here get

[@Feynex1062]

mine is 1MB/s 🗿

[@MikkoRantalainen]

3:00 If you want to build a super-slow PC, all you need to do is to use HDD instead of SSD. Everything else is just a bonus.

[@bland9876]

I want to see dual channel and an SSD in there.

[@akiraschannel3228]

This PC is still faster than mine

[@Adifferentperspectiveoflife]

My school be like gimme gimme wait how did you build my schools computer my schools CPUs are a i3 3940 with windows 10 4Gb ram DDR3 all in one

[@arandomcomp2427]

I think you can get ddr3 dirt cheap by now . He'll you might get some free dumsterdiving e waste . A bit more ram + brand new ssd would work fine for web

[@sMv-Afjal]

Just 4gb more ram and a cheap 128gb ssd to boot and install application would work just fine. I have a i3 4005u laptop has max speed is 1.6ghz and it run fine even for window 11, and good to use on ubuntu. Can play old games pretty old like skyrim or crysis say at 20-45 fps.

[@Adifferentperspectiveoflife]

@@sMv-Afjal say that to the IT team

[@Adifferentperspectiveoflife]

Also the bloatware is awfuly slow

[@Adifferentperspectiveoflife]

@arandomcomp2427 can't even install afterburner

[@wyatt9144]

"20mb/s. That's atrocious." Linus, I was happy when my WiFi was upgraded and I hit, at peak, 2mb/s download... SOME PEOPLE AREN'T AS FORTUNATE AS YOU.

[@bellicapelli8155]

The startup time reminds me of 2006: first thing i was doing when getting home from school was powering on the PC so i could play wow after lunch, that shit took about 15 minutes to boot up

[@Asahi380]

I was using dual core Pentium E (LGA 775) and HDD until Windows 8.1 and it was performing fine. Windows relied heavily on SSD since Windows 10. Any PC without it was significantly lagged and I guess Microsoft just assumed everyone was able to get one of them back then. (I mean, it's not expensive, but still did not appealing in terms of the price couple years ago)

[@Snovicek]

School Pc be like

[@jsonkody]

just install some lightweight linux on that and enjoy lightspeed 🙌 .. oh you 'doing better than', yep thats much more reasonable, if you dont't have money old PC is the way

[@D_mn]

"Today I built a bad pc, and yup, the pc was bad." Tech fascinates me.

[@errorsniper_404]

"20 MB/s thats atrocious!" *nervously looks at CoD downloading at half that speed peak for 2 literal days*

[@SrinpytheMusicalTechSquirrel]

8:05 "...20 Megabytes a second, that's atrocious." Clearly you haven't seen my internet, which downloads at a maximum of 2 megabytes a second.

[@Dw7freak]

It's amazing what changing from a HDD to a SSD does. I have a laptop that came with Windows 10 installed that had a HDD. It not only took forever for Windows to fully launch, it took forever to start doing anything after boot because background processes were maxing out the HDD. I upgraded it to a SSD and I have no problems with it. While it can't really do anything gaming, I can now actually use it when I need to.