I built the ULTIMATE Sony ZV-E10 Cinema Rig!

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Thomas J McClure

Thomas J McClure

Күн бұрын

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@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know your thoughts down below! or if you have any questions let me know.
@beekay4906
@beekay4906 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have a question. Are you a Northern Irish guy pretending to be a Canadian?
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! I am northern Irish but I moved to the states over 4 years ago. Never had a thick norn Irish accent to begin with though!
@jsardone
@jsardone Жыл бұрын
It doesn't have auto-focus using a monitor? or is that just to the monitor and not down to the source? Isn't it APS-C Thanks!
@We.Love.Movies
@We.Love.Movies Жыл бұрын
I'm so confused with the optional part @ 6:20 What's the name of that piece?? Mini Map Mod? Mini Map Book? I cant find anything on it, please help it would be a huge help.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
The smallrig mini matte box. It’s about $100 and comes with a bunch of adapter rings to mount it to the front of your lens. You can then use the front flap to help stop big lens flares when light hits your lens. Looks cool too
@orinebersold3748
@orinebersold3748 2 жыл бұрын
"completely unnecessary, completely over the top, but it's a lot of fun!" I love it!!!😆 Great start to your channel!
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
haha thanks!
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 2 жыл бұрын
Love rigging out little cameras like this, even if it's just for fun! Looking forward to seeing more vids from you Thomas!
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Cheap/older cameras are so underrated, I’ve always loved seeing your content on budget options and how you can make them look as good as you do!
2 жыл бұрын
Dude! First video? Amazing aputure setup and the way you explain things is such a breeze. I would definetely watch more about zv e10 and what you can do it with different accessories.
@Sonic-Boom
@Sonic-Boom 2 жыл бұрын
Have to say this was a great first vid. A fun little build there and liked the relaxed style. Looking forward to more with the ZV-E10 too!
@essexii
@essexii 2 жыл бұрын
The brilliance in this piece is the thoughtfulness toward budget. Using NP batteries vs V mount saves bundles and weight in so many ways. Yes, it is overkill. But, damn this is a great little setup. So many great pieces. The FX-30 may be the perfect candidate for the setup.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah I’d love to get my hands on an fx30 to put into this type of rig. Maybe sometime in 2023 lol
@benhansen542
@benhansen542 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this was purely to show what you can do and for fun! keep them coming!
@patrickconnelly69
@patrickconnelly69 Жыл бұрын
I just bought this camera because of this channel. You seem like a good guy so I trust your opinion on it. There were none available through your Amazon link, I’m sorry you won’t be getting kickback from the sale. But I will be buying through your links here for anything I can get off these Amazon links. Thank you sir for the good quality content!
@jacobbvfx
@jacobbvfx 2 жыл бұрын
Insanely good content for a new channel, we are witnessing the beginning of another great youtuber 😁
@Tommyalpaca
@Tommyalpaca Жыл бұрын
This is amazing, just bought this camera. This is so inspiring. Thanks!
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@MedicMediaProductions
@MedicMediaProductions 2 жыл бұрын
You should definitely do more of these camera builds, and add some test footage aswell. Maybe do a sony nex camera or a canon m50 cinema rig! Keep up the great work man you gained another sub!!!
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
If i can get my hands on them i will!
@grindcorey
@grindcorey 2 жыл бұрын
Man this is sick. And that ending!!! Love all of it and you have a great speaking voice bro!
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
@MicrobeTV
@MicrobeTV 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this content, what is the cinema lens you have there?
@crashofmodsold9030
@crashofmodsold9030 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutly amazing and entertaining content keep on creating
@gillesmatheronpro
@gillesmatheronpro 2 жыл бұрын
This is the way to go when one wants to dope their camera... so well thought and done ! I may get some inspiration from your work when building my future rig. Bravo, brilliant ideas and excellent execution !
@ShankojamShow
@ShankojamShow Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid mate! Just picked up a ZVE-10 as a beginner and I feel like building this rig already!! 😄😁 keep the cool vids n tips coming pal!!
@shawtaylor4017
@shawtaylor4017 Жыл бұрын
i really enjoyed it - thank you - ive just bought a zv-e10 and will probably learn all about "rigging out" with it until its time to upgrade - - - many thanks once again - Shaw
@GeorgeSapkin
@GeorgeSapkin 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing first video, congrats! I'm trying to figure out how to rig mine up while keeping it portable.
@huandang2289
@huandang2289 2 жыл бұрын
Loved everything about this video. I avoid subscribing like the plague but decided I wanted to sub to your channel. Looking forward to more!
@2011troya
@2011troya 2 жыл бұрын
First video? Really?! No man you don’t seem to be doing a first video at all! This is really really good! Keep it up
@nordfilmcompany
@nordfilmcompany 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this mate! Nice tweaks that can be implemented to any rig! Great vid =]
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah i think this would be a great setup with a Sony a7c in it or something
@apaulmarshall
@apaulmarshall Жыл бұрын
Wtf! First video? You're amazing man. And the ending is too good! 😂
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Lol
@troubleshootdis5930
@troubleshootdis5930 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute must do! Like i always say "Just because you can rig it up doesn't mean you shouldn't" lol!
@ft_sakkinen
@ft_sakkinen 2 жыл бұрын
Great job with your first video! I am loving this background setup! I have similar camera and my problem is, my skills are just not there to cope with image quality, what that camera can output. So lot of new learning all the time :)
@cidombao
@cidombao 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video! Subscribed... Looking forward to what future videos you make
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dharmani_youtube
@dharmani_youtube Жыл бұрын
Instant sub! Love it. Corporate clients will eat this up 👀
@lexiegilliland9616
@lexiegilliland9616 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the angles!
@edenchow-yuen7163
@edenchow-yuen7163 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video man, really don't feel like it's your first one! And also very interesting, nice!
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@makaveli444
@makaveli444 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing first video!!!!! I was waiting for you to go out n shoot with it but it does look sadly but very goofy..I think i was worth it lmfaoo
@Bobdrumbro
@Bobdrumbro Жыл бұрын
cool setup, also wanted to say you should be a narrator if you're not already haha, really great voice for explaining things.
@avelinomaleke8804
@avelinomaleke8804 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny this is your first video, keep them coming
@lifeboys915
@lifeboys915 2 жыл бұрын
Wow , It’s amazing Bro. I love it.
@THATSTREAL
@THATSTREAL 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome first video! Good stuff! Keep it going! Would love to see some footage that was captured with this rig setup! Especially with those cinema lenses! Haven't seen much ZVE10 Cinema lens content on here!! Good Start to a channel though!! Thank for sharing!
@GregorMima
@GregorMima Жыл бұрын
Nice! On a sidenote, if you´re on a budget get the 18-105mm F4 Sony lens. I consider it the Sony Cinema Sleeper Lens. Yes it´s F4, but most of the time i wouldnt go faster anyway. The big pro is the power zoom (all internal), IS, great quality, it´s parfocal and really cheap. Imo the most versatile lens for any APS-C video cam or FF if you´re filming in crop mode on a budget.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
ill have to give it a go! the one that intrigues me most is the tamron 17-70 f2.8 with OSS. pretty wild specs
@jameslloyd-wyatt
@jameslloyd-wyatt Жыл бұрын
You're first upload is my end game goal!!!!
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BrewtusRoasting
@BrewtusRoasting 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing first video!! Sheesh your content is way better than ours. I am thinking about getting that camera though so thanks for that.
@majeokey
@majeokey 5 күн бұрын
A lot of fun, period. Love u! hahaha!
@TonyRush21
@TonyRush21 2 жыл бұрын
l love the video, it's very good for your first video. You taught me something new about attaching the battery plate directly to a cheese plate instead of on rail rods. The rig looks awesome. love the way you light your space, however, I was thinking that the foreground could be a little brighter seeing that the camera rig is black, (it's no big prob though). my only drawback is your background music. It's nice and jazzy, but a bit too loud. It's actually competing with your voice. Overall I give your presentation 9 out of 10. Lower the volume in your next vid and it should be a 10 hands down. I will definitely like and subscribe. Keep up the good work.
@ScottSalvi
@ScottSalvi 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job Thomas. For your first post, it's a very good one. I appreciate that you explained why you chose each item. Now I have a giant "ZV E-10 Rig" list on my Amazon account. LOL!
@ScottSalvi
@ScottSalvi 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished building mine. Video on its way! :)
@duostudio518
@duostudio518 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man congrat.
@centvinn
@centvinn 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great insight, planning to buy this camera for daily & professional use, looking forward for result review footage with that rig, thankyouuu for the insight!
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a fun little camera! Hope you enjoy it!
@beckerzz_
@beckerzz_ 2 жыл бұрын
wayow, i am going to build my own version of this. thanx for making this!!!
@coolhairstyle
@coolhairstyle 2 жыл бұрын
Great video for your first one! Many youtubers look back on their first video and cringe, I don't think you will 3 years from now. Keep it up.👍🏻
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Really appreciate it!
@ManuelParodiRamos
@ManuelParodiRamos Жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, can you tell a bit more about the combo zv-e10 and ninja v?
@romainsicot9911
@romainsicot9911 Жыл бұрын
​@thomasjmcclure is the Ninja V going to help out make a difference? Hard to find info regarding the gains of such pairing. Can you enlighten us please?
@SandroPages
@SandroPages 2 жыл бұрын
Great video my man! ❤
@virginrobot
@virginrobot 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked the idea but i also wanted see how it look a video from that
@dj_wilson
@dj_wilson 2 жыл бұрын
This was fun! Trying to get back into shooting (and hopefully starting a channel of my own) so I ordered a ZV-E10. Say I'm desiring a cinematic vibe to my videos and I'm planning to grab maybe a Sirui 35mm anamorphic, can you explain why this rig would be overkill? Or maybe a better question would be: what would be a reasonable outfit for the ZV-E10 to help balance and trend it toward a cinematic vibe? Great first video, man. WOW!
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Sirui 35mm is great for it, I’m testing that lens out this weekend in Boston and loving it so far. The reason i say it’s overkill is that the only things that actually change the image are the camera and lens. The rig helps some with stabilization, and the monitor helps for better framing etc. but it’s mainly about budget. If you have the budget to go all out with it then it’s a lot of fun. But i wouldn’t recommend someone break the bank over it
@JoshConnectMedia
@JoshConnectMedia 2 жыл бұрын
keep it coming .... dude ... i got the zv -e10.... but using it on the ronin rs 3
@jonathanmunson1392
@jonathanmunson1392 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I've ever seen
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Lol i see you found me sir
@TurnLemons2Lemonade
@TurnLemons2Lemonade 2 жыл бұрын
That's a crazy setup bro :))
@RoydenWakefield
@RoydenWakefield Жыл бұрын
Thats wild..i just bought the EV-Z10, but i absolutely wont be doing this...however i loved the video regardless 😂
@nickbanham8750
@nickbanham8750 Жыл бұрын
Nice.. very nice set up. Close up of lenses used in the video and also which adapters if any etc were used? Rgds
@mrgerald
@mrgerald 2 жыл бұрын
An absolute hoot to watch. Makes me wanna build my own now :D
@ElPatron-hz2el
@ElPatron-hz2el 2 жыл бұрын
You rock man!
@PhotoGearFun
@PhotoGearFun Жыл бұрын
Loved this video! Thanks so much for sharing. I may not build up my ZV-E10 but looking to make a rig for my FX30 I think I can use a lot of these parts for that. Cheers
@VisualArtistmedia
@VisualArtistmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video 😎👍
@sibertiger17
@sibertiger17 Жыл бұрын
Look great.. question though..doesn't having the camera screen on the side take away its functionality? To use any touch screen points like focus you have to look at the side now
@theblend804
@theblend804 Жыл бұрын
that build is dope though
@BrodiBarringer
@BrodiBarringer 2 жыл бұрын
Bmpcc 4k..You don’t have to attach the vmount battery vertical, you can attach it horizontal and have access to the screen
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
I just put out my rig build for the bmpcc 4K last week so you can see why i did what i did with the v mount :). I find if it’s horizontal it sticks out too far
@raazrockss2020kota
@raazrockss2020kota 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your work !! Which mic u used during recording vedio ?? ...
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
In this one i was using an old shotgun mic i was testing, not the biggest fan of it personally, but I just put out a video a couple days ago talking about mics for KZbin and which one i ended up settling on: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXfSoGqOrMyFo8U
@raazrockss2020kota
@raazrockss2020kota 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasjmcclure which shotgun mic was that ??
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it’s a Sony ECM-670.
@blaklytstudios
@blaklytstudios 2 жыл бұрын
Thought I’d come in and be your 1000th viewer
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Love that! Honestly i was hoping for 100 views on this. And got 1000 in 3-4 days… kinda mind blown, thanks!
@arturo16111982
@arturo16111982 Жыл бұрын
I love the overkill!! What is the great looking lens you have on the camera?
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
It’s the meike full frame cine line! That with a Viltrox speed booster is a mighty combo on this camera
@jordiluqueca
@jordiluqueca Жыл бұрын
Great video! which is that cinema lens? thanks
@rexholt8736
@rexholt8736 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@theshadishow
@theshadishow Жыл бұрын
Awesome bro, what lens would you recommend for zv e10,? And what lens is that? Thank you
@JuanQuevedo
@JuanQuevedo 2 жыл бұрын
I loved seeing this in your first video. In fact I have a sony zv-e10 to be my camera in Streamings and for walks to take photos every day. When I saw this I was so impressed that I just bought the SmallRig cage hahahaha. I think that you can share parts in the blackmagic 6k both in this one, so the expense would not be so noticeable if you take advantage of it in both bodies or in three bodies as is my case. I have Blackmagic 6k Pro, Sony a7IV and this little one. You got me to subscribe
@basvanderlinde
@basvanderlinde Жыл бұрын
I think this is a great setup! I’m only missing a v-mount system in this setup. maybe something for in the future zve10 rig. 👀
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
V mount systems are good, i have one for this setup, but with the size of the camera etc it made more sense for me to go with npf for the budget savings 😊
@xzait123
@xzait123 2 жыл бұрын
great video!
@designer4292
@designer4292 Жыл бұрын
Hey! Were you using the 48mm or 35mm nato rail on top? I’m assuming the 48 since that’s the one in your links but just making sure because it has two options once I click the link.
@omarketingreal
@omarketingreal 11 ай бұрын
amazing! muito brabo! 🟡🟢
@vagousb.1735
@vagousb.1735 2 жыл бұрын
very cool video i would like to see the total price at the end but other than that fun to wach and fub idea !
@TheDIYFilmmaker
@TheDIYFilmmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Good one mate!
@Gigsy63
@Gigsy63 Жыл бұрын
Looking for a small compact camera and 1 anamorphic lens to document family life. Curious which song and lens you would recommend ?
@livcrash
@livcrash Жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for this video. I'm looking to buy the Atomos Ninja V in order to both have an external monitor and improve my files quality but i was wondering. Can you record in Prores Raw from the ZV E10 in the Ninja or do you use another kind of file format while shooting?
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
Hey, so honestly i think for the cost, it’s hard to say that the ninja v is worth the money for a zve10, you cannot utilize ProRes raw no. I put it in that rig because i had one already that i used with my z-cam cinema cameras. If im filming with the zve10, i typically film 4K 24p, 100mbps in HLG3 and it works great!
@livcrash
@livcrash Жыл бұрын
@@thomasjmcclure than you so much for sharing your experience
@TheDrHassett
@TheDrHassett 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool! I don't care that it is overkill, but if you want a justification for the build, you could always repurpose 90% of the attachments for your next camera upgrade. Call this one a proof of concept.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Very true! This setup will work with any camera with a flip out screen, just add their respective cage and you’re good to go. Gets a little more awkward if no flip out screen though
@PabloSaxDjMichael
@PabloSaxDjMichael 2 ай бұрын
hai fatto tutto sto casino e poi il tempo di registraizone? come controlli la temperatura della camera?
@piart8207
@piart8207 2 жыл бұрын
Bruhhhhh love thiss even though I'm not gonna do it tbh lol was entertaining. Thanks
@GherardoDeBenedetti
@GherardoDeBenedetti 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, and you have 29 subscribers? Your videos are so professional! Lets bring the subscribers count up by one!
@OctavianGradinaru
@OctavianGradinaru Жыл бұрын
See you in Ireland pal
@JustinTFrench
@JustinTFrench 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man sick video, What lens are you using in the video?
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
The lens on the zve10 is the meike full frame cine line with a Viltrox speedbooster. Or if you mean the one I’m using to film, it’s a sigma 18-35mm f1.8
@JustinTFrench
@JustinTFrench 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasjmcclure Thanks bro you rock!
@carlclippedit
@carlclippedit Жыл бұрын
Does that hardware come with cheese plate?
@RyanBrock365
@RyanBrock365 8 ай бұрын
Complete overkill...I love it!
@DylinSnedden
@DylinSnedden Жыл бұрын
Yep, I'm gonna do it. Can't wait to show up with a cinema rig for my $600 camera. 😂
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I love it lol, got my mark ii rig coming out soon
@frischerwind6580
@frischerwind6580 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Great combination!
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@thenewchapter3563
@thenewchapter3563 6 ай бұрын
What camera did you use to record this video?
@YuiSenpai
@YuiSenpai Жыл бұрын
hahah this is sick!
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@aayuzsth
@aayuzsth 2 жыл бұрын
SOOO NEAT!!
@carchecker1929
@carchecker1929 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really agree with you when you say "don't rig the ZV-E10 it's over kill". I think cameras like zv-e10 are the ones that need to be rigged to get the best of them. Zv-e10 is just a body with a sensor and good autofocus. That's it. No IBIS, poor audio preamps, poor internal codecs, no internal NDs, poor battery life. To my pov, zv-e10 is a great camera to rig because with additional accessories you can get great results. You can improve your shooting experience: - no ibis => add some more weight - poor battery life => power it with a Vmount battery or power bank - no internal NDs => add VND or a mattebox to master your exposure - poor internal codecs => record PRORES 422 8bits Slog2 through hdmi on external SSD instead of 420 8 bits H.264 or H.265 on a single SD card without backup. - poor audio => use an external mic or better an MI-shoe compatible audio interface. Sometimes when I see some dudes rigging cameras with great capabilities such as internal 422 10 bits prores, or adding follow focus with autofocus lenses, or matteboxes when shooting indoor It makes me think they have been beaten by the hype of GAS (gear acquisition syndrome).
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that rigging it up is beneficial for sure. I’d just say that rigging it with the parts that i used in this video, if you’re only buying it as your first camera, then it may be overkill, the total rig is worth over $3000, at which point, if you’re only starting, there’s better ways to spend the money
@morskyyy4292
@morskyyy4292 11 ай бұрын
I have a question. Is there a place for microphone?
@ONYXRCR73
@ONYXRCR73 Жыл бұрын
love it
@Nokis-b4b
@Nokis-b4b 2 ай бұрын
« It is a vlog camera 👁️👄👁️ »
@FabioOliveira-wp3su
@FabioOliveira-wp3su Жыл бұрын
Does the ninja monitor/recorder really improve significantly zve10 videos?
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
its not that it can improve the quality, but it adds a secondary recording option to SSD's in other Codecs, giving you a recording as well as the SD card in the camera, so if one file gets corrupted you can have a backup. Other cameras do support recording ProRes Raw onto the Ninja V but the ZV-E10 does not
@christiantheimprovguy1769
@christiantheimprovguy1769 Жыл бұрын
I kinda love this
@kucingpetarunx5274
@kucingpetarunx5274 6 ай бұрын
if I recording sony zv e10 with this atomos ninja v will it recorded in 10 bit 4.2.2 and prores?
@calebbrown3602
@calebbrown3602 2 жыл бұрын
Great fun video
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@wholewheaties
@wholewheaties 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. If you can, please make a video showing samples of this rig.
@RaceCafe
@RaceCafe 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video for the beginners I guess, Like your style !!! But want go bare bones carrying such a rig on hikes would be overkill 😂 maybe it’s good for YT vids
@DarkArdenProductions-uv8hw
@DarkArdenProductions-uv8hw Жыл бұрын
Another doubt : i want to attach an external mic, a larger battery at the back, a headphone so as to hear the audio while shooting and a monitor. Is it possible to attach all these to the rig?
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
So I made a second “budget” rig for the zve10 much more recently, using a v mount battery, relying on auto focus lenses. Ended up getting that one down to just under $500. The best place for a mic is probably on top of the side handle, plenty of clearance so it won’t hit the monitor. I tend to record all my audio seperately, but you can easily add a cold shoe mount on top of the side handles
@jodleyd.opendo6304
@jodleyd.opendo6304 2 жыл бұрын
unnecessary? maybe... but... i so love it.
@RoamWithJon
@RoamWithJon Жыл бұрын
Looks really good! What hardware do you need to buy on the side? Or do they come with all parts come with extra screws?
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure Жыл бұрын
It’s always helpful to pick up packs of 1/4 20 and 3/8th screws for rig building. Smallrig make “camera screw sets” that are totally worth it
@RoamWithJon
@RoamWithJon Жыл бұрын
@@thomasjmcclure thanks, that’s what I ended up doing 👍🏽
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