I can't seem to get rid of this computer (Vadem Clio)

[@Elaiden]

Sound engineer here! Just judging by how mobile voice sounds like. It sounds like it is using resynthesis! If it is, it is recreating your voice with a synthesizer. And then using formant filters to create the sound of different vowels. Not sure how the consonants are created. Maybe using filtered white noise. It is likely similar to the technique that was used for stephen hawkings speech generation.

[@japhyriddle]

Thank you for your response. Yeah, that was my assessment as well. That's certainly what it sounds like. Hopefully, there's a way to achieve this effect without having to resort to using this computer.

[@anonimenkolbas1305]

It's definitely a vocoder-based audio codec. It reminds me of DVSI's Adaptive Multi Band Encoding (AMBE), most popularly used in APCO P25 public safety radio networks and the Digital Mobile Radio (DMR) standard in amateur radio. It's used because for the last 25 years, it's been the best way to shove voice into 4.8kbps or less, in such a way that something with the processing power of a potato can decode it.

[@Firepal3D]

It sounds like Xbox Live voice chat back in the Xbox 360 days. Turned everyone into a speak 'n spell.

[@ilovegd724]

@Firepal3D yea i still have my kinect

[@Firepal3D]

@@ilovegd724 Same! I keep thinking I should use it for something. The Kinect SDK has a SLAM demo where it deduces the Kinect's position while also getting the point cloud of what it's pointed towards. It's kinda buggy but pretty cool

[@lulico]

This kinda feels like the perfect device for a CRD episode.

[@japhyriddle]

Ha. I actually considered contacting him. He'd go much deeper than I did. He probably has three of them already.

[@KETHERCORTEX]

@@japhyriddle Three of them? Unlikely. In his case I'd bet on two of them.

[@antoniodalessandro2958]

Two of them, plus one he already tore apart, while the second one was some not working obscure version​@@KETHERCORTEX

[@lunabell-2]

the computer became sentient when it guessed ImDrunk from a bunch of scribbles

[@japhyriddle]

Ha ha ha.

[@wes1]

Man, this channel rocks.

[@azuredrew]

It's such a gem

[@Jojo_Does_Thingz]

Truer words have never been said

[@japhyriddle]

Aw. Thank you : )

[@ntgm8]

"Mobile voice" reminds me of the effect VST plugin Bitspeek, which replicates the sound of old speech synthesizers. It's a really unique sound, and I love it.

[@japhyriddle]

I've never heard of it. That sounds cool.

[@new_holocene]

Mobile Voice sounds so incredible. so much musical potential

[@japhyriddle]

If I ever spend the time getting file transferring to work, I'd like to use Mobile Voice for something.

[@new_holocene]

@@japhyriddle I really like the character of it recorded via the mic'd speaker!

[@prophetzarquon]

You should be able to run it in a virtual machine

[@hecko-yes]

there's a similar open-source codec called codec2, though you have to compile it yourself (or at least i had to)

[@lukesnyder01]

@@japhyriddle Honestly, treat the curve of that speaker as part of the instrument. It sounds pretty awesome.

[@balluballu7601]

please dont get rid of this computer

[@japhyriddle]

If I do get rid of it, it will go to someone who will get more use out of it than I would.

[@frogge3978]

your videos are like nice, little treats in a world of video essays

[@japhyriddle]

Aw. Thank you : )

[@DragonAurora109]

"It still sounds like me. Or at least a Speak&Spell doing an impression of me."

[@NikitaKaramov]

I clicked on this video thinking this was an obscure parody of the old "Mac vs. PC" Apple commercials, but damn, was I in for a treat! Instant sub, keep up the great work 😍

[@japhyriddle]

Ha. I guess the white background did it. Thank you : )

[@sor-z3p]

I wonder if "mobile voice" is actually the LPC10 codec under the hood, as the bitrate matches up. Sounds a lot like it too, especially when trying to record anything that isn't voice, and people who used it a lot (it was used in many early encrypted telephones used by governments/military, hence the need for low bitrate) report that it masks their actual voice though the words are clear enough to be understood.

[@japhyriddle]

Ooh. Maybe so. I'll have to look into that when I have the time.

[@oxlip]

i love this channel. im so lucky to be one of the relatively few to see this video. please never stop making videos.

[@japhyriddle]

Aw. Thank you. I have no plans of stopping.

[@LKComputes]

i love when i see a video that interests me by someone i don't recognize at first, only to see that i have seen their stuff before and am already subscribed. congratulations, you got me twice. :)

[@japhyriddle]

Ha ha. Thanks. I'm glad I'm able to hold your interest.

[@xx_kuus_xx]

yooo the design is pretty cool. also the format of the video reminds me of some of those old product demo videos.

[@japhyriddle]

I prefer my shapes to be more primitive. This has too many weird curves for me. I guess placing things on white boxes is to blame for the product demo video look, ha ha ha. You're totally right.

[@someuser4166]

The white background and cardigan makes this feel like a 2000s apple commercial

[@japhyriddle]

That wasn't my goal, but you're right, ha ha.

[@5alpha23]

After a longer hiatus I "re-found" your channel and I'm immediately enthralled - you definitely earned my subscription, good sir!

[@japhyriddle]

Aw. Thank you : )

[@5alpha23]

@@japhyriddle Going through a really rough time right now. Videos like yours help me to distract myself from what's going on in my life. ♥

[@FunkyStudios]

Mobile Voice is so low quality it genuinely sounds like that one Pac-Man pinball machine with a voice synthesizer, honestly kinda kick ass.

[@Ramog1000]

probably is voice synthesis tbh thats why its 0KB/s

[@MrTree579]

Wow! I love that mobile voice sound. It would be really cool to use that in music somehow

[@japhyriddle]

Totally. It's too bad that there's no line-in and line-out.

[@jensgoerke3819]

Digital radios use a similar technique to compress voice audio, using algorithms like AMBE, AMBE2 or Codec2 to transmit audio via a digital, low bandwidth radio connection.

[@japhyriddle]

Ooh, interesting. Maybe it's an early attempt at something like that.

[@Digby8]

Weird but cool, My favourite! Also love the film styles of your videos so much!

[@japhyriddle]

Thank you very much.

[@hamedalzarooni442]

Never in my life have i thought about "Japhy tech reviews" Edit: wow, this laptop has a built-in autotuner

[@japhyriddle]

A number of my videos are tech reviews, but only for things that are good for making art/music with.

[@Cytrillex]

The mobile voice compressor feels like it has the most potential out of them all. I listen to a fair amount of hyperpop and webcore music where this effect would fit perfectly within the soundfont of those genres, love it. I assume you can transfer the recordings off the computer? Great video! I'm glad you held onto it and shared :)

[@anonimenkolbas1305]

@@Cytrillex He said he cannot :( that's the big problem

[@lwyrup66]

The kind of channel that makes you happy whenever there is a new video :)

[@japhyriddle]

Aw. I'm touched : )

[@Andoonline]

Christ this video is well written

[@stuff31]

This is so cool! Thank you for showing off this silly little computer to us :)

[@japhyriddle]

My pleasure.

[@promaster424]

Old hand writing recognition is bad in an incredible way. Even if it something doesn't look like a word it still produces some kind of result, sometimes it even writes words on its own

[@japhyriddle]

It really is fun to play with. I should investigate and see if there's an option to always convert into real words. That could yield some really funny results if the option exists.

[@j4ked]

wonderful video. i like your editing style, it reminds me of the early 2000's

[@pdlbackup]

I love this video style!

[@Itsurecanglitchsomemore]

Thats a 8bit music! That awesome! Im looking for one now!

[@eedoan]

Playing a song with "Mobile Voice" sounds so funny lol, it reminds me playing song with Adobe Enhance Speech

[@anonimenkolbas1305]

Believe it or not, the same thing is going on behind the scenes, when you boil it down. Non-voice audio is going into a vocoder, which encodes it as best as it can (as data needed to synthesize a voice), and then decodes it by synthesizing said voice. For Mobile Voice it's probably Linear Predictive Coding (LPC), and for Adobe Enhance Speech it's a neural vocoder, probably related to WaveNet or a variational autoencoder.

[@wigwagstudios2474]

IT HAS A GOD DAMN LPC VOICE SYNTHESIS BUILT INTO IT??? I WILL TAKE 500 OF THESE, THANK YOU

[@japhyriddle]

YOUR'E WELCOME, GOD DAMNIT! 500 CHANNEL LPC MULTI-TRACKING COMING RIGHT UP!

[@akkihole_]

this one's a banger

[@noahmusicstuff]

i need one of these computers now

[@japhyriddle]

Hopefully the eBay sellers will accept reasonable offers.

[@noahmusicstuff]

@ may i have your royal pardon japhy my reasonable offer will be that japhy riddle said i can get it for free

[@SomePeopleCallMeWulfman]

This thing was on top of my wishlist in the when it first came out. Obviously, it was way too expensive for a gadget that I didn't really have any use for.

[@japhyriddle]

Whoa, that's cool that you knew about it when it came out. I had no idea something like this existed until randomly finding one. I was surprisingly unaware of a lot of tech growing up in Silicon Valley in the 80s and 90s for some reason.

[@MaxPanic]

That’s an awesome retro machine. Don’t get rid of it. It’s a gem!

[@japhyriddle]

If I do get rid of it, it'll go to someone who's more passionate about it than I am.

[@Varjohukka_music]

As others have mentioned the recording is using low bandwidth linear predictive coding or lpc. This is why it sounds so similar to the Voice of a speak and spell. I quite like the crunch and tone this codec creates. Great video!

[@japhyriddle]

This is exciting. I'll do some more research about LPC when I get home. What a great community we have, cracking down on the obscure questions.

[@SubhanArchived]

This channel is great

[@hn1f]

3:06 sounds like those crusty xbox 360 live recordings to me

[@CryptoTonight9393]

I looove refridge.....old computers

[@seekersystems]

Sounds like a Formant filter, muddy bump in midrange to push up the vowley sounds. YMMV

[@NEStranscriber]

Reading the patent you provided, it looks like the right thing. If I'm reading it correctly, it's taking the recorded audio and extracting from that parameters for a "enhanced version" of a popular text to speech algorithm- that would explain why it's quantized and monophonic, as it's more of a smaller re-interpretation of a recorded sound than a direct compression of that sound- it's similar in practice to giving someone an orchestral recording and having them recreate the gist of it on a piezo buzzer

[@japhyriddle]

I must admit to only skimming through the patent, but yes, it definitely seems like some kind of synthesis of the original audio.

[@Pixelarity64]

I'm not used to microphones on devices looking like little sinkholes you could fall into.

[@japhyriddle]

Ha ha. It was a style in the 90s.

[@Pixelarity64]

@japhyriddle It reminds me of reptile ears. 🦎

[@japhyriddle]

@Pixelarity64 Oh yeah! I didn't think of that, but you're right.

[@juniorxranger]

Mobile voice is crazy--i wonder what sort of low-bandwidth, or alternate transmission methods it would be suited for.

[@smartperson1]

It sounds like a square wave modulator, like maybe it's 8khz like the UI days but 1 bit sample depth or something strange.

[@MannyBrum]

I had a pocket PC back in 2001 that ran Windows CE. This was around the time the first iPod came out. I mainly used it to play mp3s, but it did all sorts of things and ran programs. It was far more functional than an iPod was at the time but windows suffered from having the software and hardware developed by different companies so marketing was not unified across all devices on the platform.

[@japhyriddle]

That makes sense. It also couldn't fit in your pocket like an iPod. Yeah, it's in an awkward middle zone of functionality vs portability. Could Windows CE run any simple Win95 or 3x software, or only proprietary program?

[@pdahandyman]

I recall the Vadem Clio from back in my PDA journalism days, and this one is weird. It looks like Mainstreet Networks made a consolized version of the regular laptop version, I'm guessing for exclusive network access, like a kiosk? That wedge thing on the bottom seems to have been added for some reason. I'd keep it. I bet there are very few of those variants remaining.

[@japhyriddle]

Oh, interesting. I didn't notice that the wedge wasn't found on the Vadem version. I'm trying not to be attached to things. So I might keep it, or I might see that it falls into the hands of someone who's more excited about than I am.

[@pdahandyman]

@@japhyriddle Well, you never know. That could be a guy who used to run a website called PDA Handyman ;)

[@japhyriddle]

@@pdahandyman Ha ha ha. I see you.

[@Micro_Thingy]

2:53 sounds like you Making a Audio for a Analog horror film

[@pasmoluiso]

Great channel

[@japhyriddle]

Thank you : )

[@NynnaOnYT9]

Maybe you can donate this computer, I'd rather keep it, also the speak and spell part 😭💀

[@japhyriddle]

I'll make sure it goes to the right person if I decide to pass it on.

[@Almejandro1987]

I love you Japhy.

[@Almejandro1987]

[@sinom]

Definitely weird that mobile voice shows up as "0KB/s"

[@japhyriddle]

I laughed when I first saw that. I assume they're rounding down to get that number. So, it's something less than 512 bytes per second I guess.

[@anonimenkolbas1305]

2.4kbps, so about 300 bytes a second.

[@japhyriddle]

@@anonimenkolbas1305 Oh, duh. Like the help screen I showed in the video.

[@lukesnyder01]

You should use the writing software to create some lyrics (maybe send it through a few times, so it gets sufficiently garbled) then record your vocals with that Mobile Voice format.

[@japhyriddle]

Ha ha. That's a brilliant idea.

[@lukesnyder01]

@@japhyriddle Go really hard and get percussion sounds by tapping, closing, thumping, etc., the the laptop itself... it's a cool little PC, and you've given it some life by recording this story. Why not leverage it as a creative tool in its own right? There's something beautiful in creating permanence in something that's been rendered ephemeral by obsolescence.

[@japhyriddle]

@@lukesnyder01 That's generally what I do with most old hardware (and what a lot of this channel is about) : )

[@lukesnyder01]

@@japhyriddle And I've loved everything I've seen so far! You're a true artist, my friend.

[@japhyriddle]

@@lukesnyder01 Much appreciated.

[@nguyentruonggiangnguyen2452]

I love pc computers.

[@nguyentruonggiangnguyen2452]

Games gamers gamings

[@progect3548]

do you happen to also like chai tea ?

[@nguyentruonggiangnguyen2452]

@progect3548 chai tea là cái dì

[@sophie____]

:)))) cool guy with a cool lil computer

[@rafall1118]

Yeah, I'd try cloning the disk and then running it in a Virtual machine, or at least extracting the interesting programs then running them in some Dos emulator.

[@japhyriddle]

It's a good idea, but I have no way of doing that currently. As I mentioned in the video, I don't have a way to transfer any files to or from the computer. I'll have to buy more hardware or try and get networking set up over a phone line.

[@migsy1]

This was a fun video! You don’t often see built-in handwriting to text systems that will spit out garbage like that (at least not anymore). I wonder what it would be like to make a song using the mobile voice. Does the computer have any way to look at the waveforms for your recordings?

[@japhyriddle]

I love when computers attempt things before they're truly ready. I remember playing with some speech to text program back in the mid-90s. The results were hilarious. And it was heavily biased towards the word "Microsoft". There isn't any software on the computer that can display waveforms, unfortunately.

[@prophetzarquon]

Omitting audio & video recording apps, from all recent versions of Windows, is one of the biggest downgrades Microsoft has ever pushed

[@japhyriddle]

That's quite a shame. Apple is also very guilty of moving away from creativity.

[@dum_potat]

B17 Bomber voice

[@kakurerud7516]

This looks like it was modded to be a disability assistance communicator. This is why it would have that slapped on giant speaker.

[@japhyriddle]

Very interesting. I didn't realize that the Vadem version didn't have that big speaker on the bottom.

[@kakurerud7516]

@@japhyriddle you should take it apart and find out how the speaker works, could be a tappable audio source.

[@japhyriddle]

​@@kakurerud7516 I like to think that every speaker is an opportunity for an overpowered line-out, ha ha. I didn't want to break it while making the video, but the thought crossed my mind : )

[@kakurerud7516]

@@japhyriddle sure, bud did they stack amps or tap the line before the device amp. (likely stacked amp)

[@japhyriddle]

@@kakurerud7516 I have no idea. If I ever bring out this device again, I'll certainly take a look to see what's going on under the hood.

[@yoppindia]

open the wav file saved in notepad, there would be a string indicating the codec used.

[@japhyriddle]

Ooh. That's a cool idea. I'm not sure there's a "Notepad" on this thing. I'll investigate when I have time.

[@AK-vx4dy]

Mobile (GSM) codec have bank of predefined waveforms and try match most fitting, it is optimised for human speach. I rember suprise when some sounds (for example very high or noise) were not transmited by GSM. Look for GSM Full Rate or GSM Half Rate

[@japhyriddle]

Ooh, that sounds like what could be happening here. I'll definitely look into it. Thank you.

[@WickedV3ng3nc3]

Let me get it.

[@deadleads]

£10. Finally offer.

[@meow.5219]

you should try to release the mobile voice files

[@japhyriddle]

As mentioned in the video, I can't transfer files from the computer. I'd have to buy some extra hardware or get networking set up through a phone line.

[@Bearstof]

where did you get your sweater?

[@japhyriddle]

Goodwill 'Bins' back in 2018.

[@Bearstof]

@@japhyriddle Nice find, no brand on there? :]

[@japhyriddle]

@@Bearstof On the tag it reads "Renu" and "Brüzer". I guess one of those is the brand.

[@3ertin]

They go for $1000 on Ebay

[@japhyriddle]

That's insane. Is that what people will actually pay for one of these? Or is that what people are trying to sell them for?

[@3ertin]

@@japhyriddle It's rare, vintage and quirky. I guess people will pay for it.

[@MightyJabbasCollection]

@@japhyriddle The only one that sold recently went for $175, and someone is asking $399 for another, so while it's true that there is one delusional person asking $1200 for one, I don't think saying "they go for $1,000" is in any way accurate. Even $175 is quite a bit for a windows CE machine though, to be fair

[@japhyriddle]

@@MightyJabbasCollection Yeah, between $100-$200 seems much more reasonable.

[@mustardroshi418]

tnx for sharing this Jesus

[@japhyriddle]

You're welcome, my son.

[@theartofbanana]

With my handwriting and language its like the same on an ipad, unfortunately 😂

[@japhyriddle]

Heh heh.

[@danh5637]

Microsoft handwriting recognition was notoriously bad. Surprisingly Apple has some of the best as they had so many skunkworks because of newton

[@japhyriddle]

The Clio Wikipedia mentioned that this handwriting recognition was written by some of the same people that developed the Newton one.

[@danh5637]

@ the good ones who perfected it with the Kalman filters etc stayed at Apple I think some still there. There was a video about it I’ll find it for you.

[@squintsyadams8463]

Tired of the Geico cavemen ads.

[@shadwellsong]

dang i see why you cant get rid of it LOL 🤣

[@TieZeeGuy235]

Hello

[@Caldinovin]

hi

[@joe_acee]

Huh me too

[@daandanx]

:D

[@willlit2806]

Shame you couldnt find anythign about the mobile voice, id love to use it for making new horrible audios

[@japhyriddle]

If enough people see this video and get interested, the community can likely figure out how to achieve this effect without the computer. That's my hope.

[@willlit2806]

@japhyriddle Or possibly someone knows of something similar out there. It push comes to shove theres also emulators, which if there's a emulation of that windows version it should have access to mobile voice encoding

[@japhyriddle]

@@willlit2806 That's a great point! There's probably a Windows CE emulator out there. If one exists and has audio routing, that could be a solution.

[@overand]

As someone else pointed out, it sounds like LPC - Linear Predictive Coding. I bet - once you figure out how to transfer files - you'll be able to verify that!

[@Skankphone]

Poo