I confronted Kramnik.

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[@hardboiledaleks9012]

In what universe do you flex your subscriber count to the person you are interviewing less than 1 minute in the interview? It's a rhetorical question, don't bother answering... I'm just dumbfounded...

[@P1OOD]

Shin of pame buddy

[@toll5320]

4 minutes ago for the pin of shame is insane

[@stuartdgreatest]

no comment … wait

[@raymondchen8261]

pinn off shamee

[@brbcrew9957]

Pin of shame 😞

[@bigdogbreedtrainer6936]

Levy: How are you the tallest chess player? Kramnik: I reported everyone who was taller than me.

[@Martiny-t5s]

Hilarious 😂😂😂

[@Tmnbyyy]

Agahahhahaha 0 iq joke

[@extrams0]

@@Tmnbyyy Agahahhahaha IQ is not a scale that ends at 0. it's a standard bellcurve where 100 is the average and 15 IQ points is is 1 standard deviation

[@Tmnbyyy]

@@extrams0 are you serious? Write an essay about this topic Lol

[@extrams0]

@@Tmnbyyy why? It's common knowledge. At least for people who 5+ braincells. .... wait, is that why you didn't know?

[@brycepeddicord6763]

Levy: I'm not going to pretend to understand statistics Kramnik: don't worry I will

[@fdm698]

Exactly what I was thinking 😅 One of them at least has a bachelor's degree in statistics by the way. Guess which one it is 😂

[@rock3657]

@@fdm698levi?

[@brycepeddicord6763]

@@rock3657 lol swipe you text. I'll edit that

[@fdm698]

@@rock3657 It was a rhetorical question, but yes 😅 Also his name is Levy

[@556andressantorio]

The attention whores meet at last

[@Fella_79]

So nice of kramnik to invite levy to an interview

[@TheJackTheLion]

🤣

[@zcarlton]

Dress to impress your wife. Wide pint. Punters.

[@OzrenkoSudar]

blud doesn't stop speaking ever

[@ChrisRoomProductions]

@@OzrenkoSudar well he is the one being interviewed so I don't see a problem.

[@lewismaddock1654]

@@OzrenkoSudar He's a chess world champion, he's allowed.

[@craftykev]

'You're very tall...how did that happen?' Grandmaster questions

[@abeeltenista]

too tall for a GM so let's do the procedure

[@Idiomatick]

This is textbook interview technique. Start the interview with a complementary softball to get the interviewee to relax. It makes their answers more open and honest. The meat is in the middle section.

[@craftykev]

@@Idiomatick it didn't work

[@skaffen]

@@Idiomatick If you need interview techniques, you are very bad at interviews.

[@HenryFabianGT]

*If only Kramnik was this calm and composed online too...*

[@andro99991]

If only everyone was. Seriously, people are much more prone to ranting and raving online than in "real life" (in lack of a better word).

[@flyandshy00]

He is calm and composed online too. Hans isn’t.

[@theMerovingianMan]

Guys like this are always loud until they're in the room with you.

[@chirag9899]

Levy crossed 5M subscriber's Kramnik: Intersting 🤔🤔

[@remybuitenhuis2433]

😂

[@liketobecalled]

Let's do the procedure

[@YuranPereira-t8s]

@@liketobecalled Ah shit you beat me to this comment! lol

[@thecalculatedcreativecoder1428]

"95% Accuracy" 🕵‍♂️🕵‍♂️🕵‍♂️

[@hq3473]

It's statistically impossible!!

[@ComputerChessWorld]

I finally got it: Kramnik is the kidnapper

[@authenticallysuperficial9874]

😂

[@ibcavid]

LMAO

[@the-lenny-dood7502]

Calling the microwave police 🤡

[@changeminds2736]

Was he in princess bride?

[@kindlingking]

​@@changeminds2736 my name is Vladimir Kramnik, you stole my online win, prepare for ban.

[@ThatIsLuck]

25:45 "...now we see hes one of the youngest twelve year olds in the country." well said levy, well said.

[@MrJ6H]

His confidence with that delivery though!

[@kramp8188]

Hikaru said the same thing previously as well lol

[@davidjames149]

yeah reminds me of when i was a kid me: "i'm 6 years old" other kid: "well i'm 6 and a half!"

[@marcosalazar4682]

I know a 12 year old thats 11

[@dayibey9700]

I think he was trying to say one of the youngest GMs now but missed the punchline

[@Demian_R]

"You must be one of ze shortest IM's, tell me Levy, how did zat happen?" 💁🏻‍♂️

[@polishpat95]

😂

[@muizzawan5251]

Levy: Did you see I recently crossed 5 mil? Kramnik: Everything is clear... Now we begin the procedure...

[@gnarlesmarx]

levy with a statistics degree "im not going to pretend to understand statistics"

[@floki3594]

this is what every scientist says about his field :D

[@reallybiglizard]

I didn’t even know this.. I feel second-hand embarrassment for Kramnik now

[@koudbiertje]

@@floki3594 It's the dunning-kruger effect, the more you know about a subject, the less you thnk you know. People who are shy of their knowledge are usually well-informed, while people very confident usually know very little

[@zapalblizh]

@@koudbiertje very true reason being, those that know more, know what they don't know, but those that don't know anything, think they know everything based on little knowledge

[@fuerstmetternich1997]

​@@koudbiertje So true. Thats how I feel about history. I love history but everytime I read something I realize that I know nothing. 😂

[@gregbartlett851]

Levy: this seems like we are in an argument loop, do you agree? Kramnik: no

[@shashankh7768]

Kramnik clutched and saved the loop

[@RebeccaSjögren]

@@shashankh7768 Forced perpetual argument.

[@inemanja]

Technically it wasn't 3-fold repetition

[@kyriacosstavrinides893]

- An argument isn't just saying "No, it isn't" - Yes, it is. - No, it isn't!

[@NativeNewMexican]

@@kyriacosstavrinides893 You came here for an argument

[@ariano855]

This has to be the tucker carlson interviews putin version in chess universe

[@Remixer0000]

Ha I was thinking that

[@brycepeddicord6763]

Exactly😅

[@Wargasm54]

Both Vladimir’s

[@milseq]

It's more like Jake Paul and Mike Tyson

[@n00dle_king]

He’s not a journalist and Kramnik has very little power even in the chess world. There’s a lot of entertainment to be had from just letting cranks yap.

[@SpencerioQ]

Perfect showcase of how Kramnik is not coming from a bad place, but his belief that he has an actual understanding of statistics means he has just become increasingly deluded.

[@dereknichols4376]

But it's funny that people keep attacking his 'statistic' but ignore the main point=cheating online Even Magnus himself said he believe online cheating is the biggest issue for chess

[@SpencerioQ]

@@dereknichols4376 Yes, but that has never been a point of contention really. The problem is it is incredibly unethical to publish names of titled players with insinuations of cheating and even if he doesn’t see or mean it as such, to then hide behind the “I’m not accusing anyone” stance is a very cowardly way out in that circumstance.

[@mmathems395]

It's not really about the statistics. Kramnik could be right or wrong in his interpretations. The point is that every game offers opportunity for cheating, and the point is, some people do cheat or have cheated. So, if cheating is occurring then a second look at any game of chess or any chess player is warranted. So then the only question is, under which circumstances should we be alarmed and suspicious? So that we don't go checking every single game or player - only the ones where cheating may have occurred. It's good for Chess.

[@davidstubbs8896]

@@dereknichols4376 You're missing the point worse than Vlad. We all know there is cheating but not how much. Vlad's approach and reasoning is completely unsound. Chess is not science, facts, and probabilities. It's a competitive intellectual and emotional sport. Sure, we can all do any amount of analysis during and especially after the games, but during, they are individual games. People can have extreme moments of brilliance and outperform their best results. It happens every day.

[@DDP-Gaming]

9:56 Levy : "I'm not gonna pretend to understand stastics" Also levy : **stats major**

[@paulie-g]

Tbf, in statistics PhD is about the minimum at which someone is genuinely qualified. It's not a difficult field to understand the various methods, but their correct application is very hairy. As an example, let's say you wanted to find a statistical anomaly in a series of chess results. You would want a distribution to compare with. What is that distribution? How do you derive a distribution that is appropriate not just for an average player, but for a top 10 player? This is way beyond undergrad stats, it's a whole line of original research.

[@cameronjack1095]

@@paulie-g Great point! I'm a bioinformatician and have helped to develop analysis methods in collaboration with statisticians, but I'm definitely not a statistician, even though I could tangle with a stats honours or masters student. That said, Kramniks arguments about the likelihood of victory runs is not based in any "fair" distribution. You only have to look at how world-class players of any sport can become "bunnies" for "weaker" opponents. There may be something in the technique but most likely it's often psychological.

[@paulie-g]

@@cameronjack1095 Yeah, I haven't looked too much at Kramnik's output, but I'm skeptical that he's got the chops to develop a workable model, especially for top 10 players who are by definition outliers - I see that as somewhat similar to extreme values analysis, which is very much an open sub-field with very unsatisfactory results so far. With that said, I do think we need solid work on statistical and ML approaches to chess integrity and that work needs to be public. I take his admonition that openness and willingness to engage with this subject is key to maintaining confidence in the integrity of chess. Personally, I think black-box ML approaches are probably the answer. Any clearly established criteria, whatever they are, would just result in competent cheaters adapting. I suspect the solution at the very top and everything else are also going to be different. In any case, it needs to be worked on and a demonstrable effort made. You can write off Kramnik as a cook, but every other sport where cheating is possible has seen massive cheating historically, at least until the cost was raised high enough, so it's silly to suppose that online chess, where it is easy and cheap to cheat, would be different.

[@berk1nTM]

​@@paulie-g I was looking for this type of comment. It seems ridiculous to me that Kramnik insists on understanding the whole thing and keeps saying it's facts. You can come up with a lot of facts but you have to be able to understand what they mean based on the context.

[@HunterTracks]

I mean, I'm a CS major but I wouldn't pretend to know much about cryptography or information theory. Chess statistics are a very specific subset of general statistics, and you need to go pretty in-depth into a subject like this to be able to speak to speak on it with any authority.

[@Ippikiryu]

It's such a shame because Kramnik honestly does have good points, but they're all undermined by his inability or unwillingness to learn even the most basics of statistics/probability that would immediately assuage like 99% of his concerns. He wants independent mathematicians to weigh in but refuses to listen to the dozens, if not hundreds, that have done exactly that.

[@ibcavid]

You speak as if you know statistics and know what exact mistakes Kramnik made, and know that Kramnik doesn’t have basic knowledge in statistics. You are probably going to appeal to other “mathematicians” who disagreed with Kramnik. But you have to understand chess to model it in a right way. I have seen Ivy league statistics mathematician mixing data from otb and online ( not knowing they have different ratings). So in that sense given Kramnik is former world champion + if he really has team of mathematicians under his guidance, their statistical results one of the most reliable ones.

[@knighter1209]

@@ibcavid no? Chesscom has more experience with all of this + more people who understand Chess + more mathematicians and they still refuted him. If we're doing full appeal to authority here, Chesscom is the ultimate authority.

[@tamagonbagel6569]

Kramnik is the guy who took a Statistics 101 class and thinks he understands everything. And then people explain to him slightly more advanced stuff and he just cannot see anything different. He thinks he’s willing to be proven wrong but until he stops overestimating his knowledge of stats then he’ll be remembered as the stubborn cranky guy who used to be good at chess

[@ajbiffl4695]

also a team of statisticians is useless if he sees "0.1% probability" and says "IMPOSSIBLE"

[@dillonferreira3529]

@@ibcavid I know nothing about statistics but I know that you can't take things in isolation when trying to do probability fairly, what Kramnik did to hikaru is essentially flipped a coin 5000 times and looked at the one time 45 out of 46 of them landed on heads and said "yeah statistically impossible".

[@WildWaker]

Levy crosses 5M subscribers being less skilled than Krammnik. Krammnik: Alright let's do the proceedure

[@mathewchristman3435]

I'm surprised he didn't accuse Levy of cheating at youtube

[@colinchesbrough5772]

🤣🤣

[@MrTravolta7]

Krammnik has much less subscribers than Levy but he is much more skilled.

[@WildWaker]

@@MrTravolta7 That's what I said...

[@TyrannosaurusCHEX]

In a way he does, everything about the channel is perfectly tailored in ways so the KZbin algorithms promote it above all other chess content

[@milseq]

In Formula 1 teams constantly accuse each other of cheating and the FIA actually performs brutal checks most of the time because they know how bad it looks on them when a big cheating accusation is ignored, let alone goes unchecked.

[@rorykeegan1895]

Everyone cheats in F1, that's part of the game. The rule is, if caught stick your hand up and move on. Trick is don't get caught.

[@dessertstorm7476]

they went to Jospam's house and watching him play titled tuesday live because of accusations. They did a full audit on every game Hans Niemann ever played because of accusations. What made you think this does not happen?

[@gordonfrimann246]

​@@dessertstorm7476thats a drop in the ocean.

[@abcdefghilihgfedcba]

@@rorykeegan1895 I didn’t even know people cheated in F1… how do you even cheat there?

[@bramvissers4985]

@@abcdefghilihgfedcba There are rules and regulations about how the car must be constructed, and which technology is allowed.

[@jacobtango]

levy title: i confronted kramnik levy first question: how you so tall

[@susano-o]

Kramnik is much more chill in person than I thought he would be. Nice interview!

[@manantv9299]

@susano-o I think pretending to be chill.

[@zkprintf]

Levy does such a great job. His attitude makes the conversation very pleasant and he asks questions that let Kramnik express himself.

[@EthanielMusic]

Levy Approved 💪💪💪

[@lewismaddock1654]

I mean, obviously Levy looks up to Kramnik, much like most chess players in the world. His stance on "accusing" people was shitty though, but the guy is still really cool on a personal level. We just can't let the Tilt get the better of us. What I didn't like is that he's walking into this match already with a defeated mentality, saying he's gonna lose to Jospem. If he's got statistics on his side he should say he's winning, because otherwise is argument just translates to: "Fide ratings aren't definite evidence, and my statistical hypothesis was incorrect."

[@jacknorton9724]

Hate away at Kramnik or anyone who dare considers what he’s said with some respect and fairness. Online cheating happens and if it continues to grow in competitive chess it will ruin this game/sport for future generations. A lot of people don’t realize: Some people think chess for them is just something they do, but people who grew up with it, went to schools for it, read books and books on it, generations of people who lived lives like this - to see it become potentially ruined by technology would suck, yes. Thanks you to Kramnik and anyone for trying to do something about this, even if it comes with the heat.

[@MrPatchtkennedy]

Legitimating someone who is on a trajectory to get even more demented might not age well. But levy got clicks.

[@guojames9269]

@@jacknorton9724 Kramnik's accusations has caused mental pressure to many who didn't cheat, and while they are struggling more in games and have to bring out every bit of evidence to prove they weren't cheaters, Kramnik didn't even give a simple apology for accusations on those who are 99% not cheating. Instead, he just goes on twitter every day and make matters worse. The number of confounding variables in his "sound" statistics surpasses the amount of players he's called out, while the statistical procedures, as pointed out by many with way more related qualifications than him, is wrong to the core. Hate? With respect and fairness, his intentions are good and that's about it. His actions brought no "heat", it only brought chaos

[@fdm698]

It's so funny how levy, who actually has an education and degree in statistics, is immediately disclaiming that he doesn't understand the statistics of the subject on a deep enough level. At the same time kramnik just sits there confidently throwing nonsense about, without ever even coming close to qualifying his claims from a mathematical standpoint. Its usually the people with the least knowledge who are the surest of themselves.

[@ian27792]

It's the perfect description of you. A clown who acts as a master of life who is an all-around expert but who in reality knows nothing, who would like to teach chess to Kramnik. You dropped this🤡

[@renobgm]

School of Lex Friedman is a powerful journalism

[@manuelsparavilla2887]

This is really common. I suggest you to check out the Dunning-Kruger effect if you are curious to get to know more about this tendency

[@willh69]

It's part of his strategy

[@Crew7340]

@@manuelsparavilla2887The Dunning Kruger effect actually doesn’t have anything to do with this

[@RyanLeBlanc-w3v]

Gotham: “What is your hypothesis in like 2 sentences” Kramnik: “Ok. I’ll talk for 5 min straight”

[@ChasseAuxHiboux]

much faster than other infamously known Vladimir from Russia

[@madscientist3134]

It's not easy or fair to ask someone to explain a hypothesis in 2 sentences. There's bound to be some misunderstandings. Why put that limitation when you have an extended interview session?

[@kindlingking]

​@@ChasseAuxHibouxthat's just how we in Russia discuss things. You see, it goes back to the times when brothers Cyril and Methodius first created a slavic alphabet...

[@vovanbalashov]

@@madscientist3134 I think very real scientist is able to say his thesis in a couple of sentences. Perhaps without explaining it, naming a bunch of special terms and so on, but it will still be a couple of sentences

[@rootleft7928]

@@vovanbalashov dude he was world chess champion. a tier above "scientist"

[@mmmetafool1071]

a big point that most people miss about streaks, which Kramnik mentioned here, is that the player who had this crazy streak could have played fairly, this means that the players he went against cheated and had their ratings ruined

[@teriyaki6914]

Kramnik loves to say things are “mathematically improbable”. No, they’re not. You left out key variables in your statistics that change what is probable. Everyone seems to see that but kramnik. That is why you can find statistics for virtually any viewpoint you want to have. It’s because many statistics leave out key considerations and are just useless graphs.

[@theboringplanet]

not even graphs..useless scribbles

[@carlkligerman1981]

Governments do it every quarter for inflation figures, GDP and etc….

[@aaaaaa-gq3dv]

Yeah. I I'd love to see the conversation between Kramnik and whatever mathematicians he's talking to about it. It's way too easy to get misleading statistics even if the math part is 100% right. And even if you don't mean to do that. And if he talked to actual statisticians, then obviously this is something they should understand. I wonder if they tried explaining any of it to him.

[@DaTimmeh]

Don't trust any statistics you didn't fake yourself.

[@spencerrudin1285]

Ngl yes he does but he also gives the alternatives to prove his point ie the Hikaru streak being against a falsely strong rated player… his conclusion for that streak is mathematically sound. Anyone who is comparable to Hikaru level in actual CHESScom rating it would be near impossible to lose that many games. Not saying Hikaru cheated but saying that a statistical performance of that nature against another player rated similarly is near impossible and warrants some deeper explanation, which may or may not be cheating but that is irrelevant to the conclusion as he makes it.

[@piganot1151]

I truly do appreciate how civilized you both were about the discussion despite the opposing viewpoints

[@johnbiteme9118]

Agreed - it is so good to see two people sit together and express opposing viewpoints like calm, rational, mature adults.

[@jeremiahbell6129]

I think part of it is that their viewpoints aren't "opposing". I think they both agree on a lot, with differences only in severity and methodology to approach the problems. Levy realized that, which I think is the reason he's undergoing this whole thing, even though parts of the chess community are against it.

[@sam9239]

@@jeremiahbell6129yep, nobody disagrees that kramnik has a big point about cheating becoming too prevalent in chess, including at the higher levels and it needs to be seriously looked into it, but the way kramnik is doing it is where they are disagreeing

[@tamagonbagel6569]

I applaud Levy for his composure but Kramnik’s ramblings and interruptions surely don’t count as civilized

[@MagiCaleb]

“You must be one of the tallest GM’s, how did that happen?”

[@renobgm]

For someone who doesn't have to reach he sure does it a lot

[@kmacyoyo]

He grows an inch every time he falsely accuses someone of cheating

[@micahhilles]

My favorite quote was " he's one of the youngest 12 year olds in the country"

[@barefootalien]

Right? "I donno, I mean I vas born, and den I didn't fuckink starve, and here I am. Khow you get so much curly hairs??"

[@dex6316]

@@kmacyoyohe would be a Titan then with all the accusations he throws around

[@plushcap3320]

we need some statistics on whats the chance a random chess teacher from NYC can interview a world chess champion

[@barefootalien]

"Is vwery low prhobabeelity, less than zero, vwery very low, practically impossible. Levy should be streep-searched. Is okay, ees perfectly normal, is no problem. Eef I hhad five millions subscribers, I vwould submit, too, now strip, boy."

[@manelisizimazile5888]

Interesting 🤐

[@hermannsorgel]

Let's look at this from a different perspective. There's a good chance that someone interviewing a chess champion will have a background in chess, perhaps even a job in chess education. That's not to say you're missing something with your joke. It's just interesting how statistics works.

[@sohanpanda]

0.04% but if you are a youtuber with 5mil subscriber who will be doing the live commentary on his match 98.6% (I know it's a rhetorical question , this is a randomly generated%)

[@swedishpsychopath8795]

He couldn't be any clearer that he still thinks Hikaru's play is suspicious.

[@ncs9753]

Kramnik is talking a lot of sense.

[@langerd6711]

Hmm well his “math” doesn’t add up in fact. Also, he doesn’t provide any computations just screenshots and his own “statistical evidence” with no proof on how he got them…

[@reallybiglizard]

Saying something is a fact 100 times won’t make it any closer to actually being a fact

[@TheOnlyToblin]

It's the Russian way, bro. That's how propaganda works. If the government does it for 60+ years, you learn to do it yourself.

[@Nikolaijg]

He brought up a good point, it might not be hikaru cheating but his streaks may be the result in a large number of high ELO players cheating and not deserving to be at that ELO so hikaru crushes them.

[@FrequentArtist]

But you saying opposite makes it a non-fact? What makes a fact a fact?

[@walid-sb6vc]

@@FrequentArtist math is facts, numbers are facts

[@charlies8282]

you dont think chess has a cheating problem? gee whiz!

[@josephumani9566]

I thought he interviewed vladmir putin Edit: The original title was I interviewed Vladimir Kramnik. But on my screen it only said vladmir so I thought he interviewed putin

[@aldocort3418]

I know it's a joke but bro that makes no sense😭😭💀

[@testro]

someday bro

[@klutch2993]

@gothamchess please pin this lmao

[@vaidehiundalkar5750]

Lol

[@Zork2478]

Kramnik is kinda like the Putin of the chess world ngl

[@guacca]

Anyone noticed how on point Levy's impression of Vladimir is after hearing Kramnik himself speak?

[@mikejameson7678]

That's... how impressions work. If you watch Trevor Noah, you'll know he isn't trying to be offensive when doing impressions; he just knows people from so and so country.

[@guacca]

@@mikejameson7678 yes, Mike, we know how impressions work but some people aren't very good at them, hence the remark on Levy's being pretty good. Cheers.

[@revenantronin8377]

That's the first thing I realized 😂

[@bandass]

Code switching is a thing

[@annyeong5810]

Well, levy is Russian so that helps

[@BryanV4]

11:55 ahhh, this did make Kramnik look a bit better in my eyes. He wasn't necessarily saying Hikaru was cheating, but his opponents were (fake ratings)

[@PsychologyAttack]

Whats the problem with a possibility of Hikaru cheating? You think it is impossible?

[@Gush27]

@@PsychologyAttackhe’s not cheating lmao

[@ndnd7614]

@@PsychologyAttackhis OTB results lately are actually better than his online performances 😂

[@PsychologyAttack]

@@Gush27 Why? How do you know?)

[@youareallbots7536]

@@PsychologyAttack Hikaru has made it to the candidates several times and nearly won this time, I don't think the man even needs to cheat lmao

[@Anthonyvo]

Levy: I have 5 million subscribers. Kramnik: That’s… very interesting.

[@ChessMusclesBro]

Levy: I can’t pretend to understand the statistics. Also Levy: I have a college degree in statistics.

[@samuelbailey2000]

Does he actually lmao?

[@Patrizsche]

He doesn't

[@Discopig2166]

Is he even a data scientist

[@ahmedcher3611]

He doesn't want to confront him he is playing safe

[@afonsosolano5274]

​@@Patrizscheyes, he does

[@Chill_Enigma]

After this interview, Kramnik reported Gotham for cheating.

[@guojames9269]

Cheating accusations is just kramnik's love language 🥰

[@joffly]

Best comment ever 😂

[@billcrandall9386]

Or for clickbait?

[@Rude_i_Wredne]

I don't think that Kramnik disliked the way the interview was conducted. Levy kept the positive atmosphere and full respect all throughout.

[@crowcrow760]

it is easy, just cheat, Krammnik. If they don't catch you, you are right

[@u_ser-8-6-2]

not a bad strategy actually

[@dessertstorm7476]

he tried that already by playing on someone else's account AKA breaking the rules, AKA cheating. they caught him

[@Naa-ee7nq]

it's actually not a valid test I'd say obviously, but Kramnik also struggles with the concept of models not being correct both in terms of precision (% of positives being correct) and recall (% of positives being detected) - not even entering in negatives territory

[@jaswik2023]

@@Naa-ee7nq could you elaborate please?

[@Rude_i_Wredne]

Not a good counter. See, Kramnik genuinely comes from the perspective of the love of the game. His goal is to keep the integrity of chess, so that skill still matters most. You might not agree with his methods (and with some you definitelly shouldn't), but you can't say he's malicious.

[@ShadowlessInvestments]

I agree 100% with Kramnik.... He is absolutely 1 step ahead in his thoughts. Legitimate gameplay is the most important aspect of online gaming when money is involved. Just checking numbers is step 1.

[@Bobtheslob-bi9ng]

You agree 100% with everything he says? That doesn't really track

[@Joseph-rl3pe]

32:00 the New York instincts kicked in 😂😂

[@OzrenkoSudar]

We got Gotham interviewing Kramnik before GTA VI

[@johnjenson8783]

Doubling down on Hikaru is WILD

[@toziassmitt]

Bro’s doubling down on hikaru cheating to beat a streak of 2500’s online, meanwhilst hikaru is at Norway chess literally 1.5 points behind Magnus in a field of 2700 superGM’s, he’s placing close to 1st in the strongest chess event of the year 💀

[@TheJackTheLion]

He is saying that it's either Hikaru OR his oppenent. Just giving the correct qualification.

[@therealmstoltz7032]

Ikr, I just have a bachelors in math but when I read his explanation of Hikaru cheating “statistics” I immediately noticed multiple mistakes and reasons which could question his certainty of cheating

[@ahmedcher3611]

​@@therealmstoltz7032yeah he is talking about the probability of winning 50 games in a row with taking n=50 but in reality hikaru plays thousands of games so the stats don't have any value.also he is not taking into consideration the mental aspect of facing hikaru

[@alfieallan9681]

@@therealmstoltz7032levy has a degree in statistics I don’t know why he’s pretending not to understand it haha

[@samuelelliott8453]

I feel like in a way, kramnik is like Freud. Hes asking the right questions and has good points here and there but other places (outside this interview), he's off the rails 😂😂

[@keitaro373]

It's all the rails he's doin in between ;)

[@samuelelliott8453]

@@keitaro373 wait so who's getting railed?

[@PsychologyAttack]

Where is he off the rails?

[@carlkligerman1981]

Great analogy. Nobody has issue with VK’s cause, it’s how he is prosecuting it that is dubious, if not petulant!

[@PsychologyAttack]

@@carlkligerman1981 A lot of people claim Kramnik is simply paranoid and cheating is not such a big problem. So I would disagree there. What do you think Kramnik does that is dubious?

[@RemiBusseuil]

It is crazy this chess world where people are polite in front of Kramnik and as soon as he turns his back ALL commentators talk trash about him

[@KaramAlayan]

You mean keeping the environment peaceful and respectful in a live interview but then expressing their point of views more freely when he isnt here to try to eliminate live conflict ?

[@RemiBusseuil]

There is a line between keeping it peaceful and not telling him any counter argument and then when his back is turned saying he is a dumbass that cant play

[@glitch504sans9]

Its because his communication style is very strong and grown and confident and controlling you cant talk randomly or you will either be ignored or interrupt his point which will he disrespectful or he can simply continue his speech after quickly answering your question and adding it to his main point. he can effortlessly assert himself which comes with being literally the formal world champion and not losing that mentality and being a chess player since forever and most importantly having discipline shown by his online games where he clicks the piece and move becausehe refuses the pre moving and dragging which indeed doesnt exist in classical chess. His discipline is the main key and all this combined makes stress almost impossible for him hence making him always confident. Watch the interview and look at how his shoulders are always resting and chill showing hes very calm and confident unlike levy who his shoulders are up and stressed for the whole interview.

[@glitch504sans9]

Forgot to say body language. His body language is also calm and accurate and always active

[@Dragon7398]

26:49 Kramnik: Everybody can make mistakes (except me)

[@murphyphillipsmusic]

This interview is.. interesting…

[@davidsleith7222]

no it's not. shameless possibly. nowhere close to interesting.

[@parallelogrum7967]

@@davidsleith7222r/whooosh

[@matthewlarios.]

lets do the procedure.

[@ea-tt]

Based on Levy's imitation i can 100% confirm that he is indeed Vladimir Kramnik

[@Laskaa9]

What he's saying is : If you overperform you should be checked and it should be a norm. Yes it does, that's why practically every sports has those regular checks and norms. For the younger players he is also right, if you don't punish a cheater because of his age, you just push him to continue with that mentality (If he is actually cheating, that's why good checks are absolutely necessary) Is he right to doubt every body including your favorite player? Yes. Just because if there is no strict checks, you can't know for sure. Good checks are necessary for the public and for every top player, not being wrongly accused of cheating after a winning streak and proving you weren't must be a good feeling after all.

[@clearsight655]

This.

[@rmmaccount]

If you ignore the BIG part that "ego" takes place in chess players, I have to admit that he is jus trying to being just rational about it (in its own way). Chess players don't usually know how to express themselves... if you have been around them for long time you know what I mean.

[@kengee11]

Levy approached this interview perfectly. Talking with respect, while giving his honest opinion even if it might make the guest uncomfortable.

[@bourbon_hound]

Internet parade aside, he seems completely reasonable. He's using the sway he has to fight cheating which is a massive problem and normalize anti cheating checks - maybe not perfectly but its a good thing. Athletes get tested for steroids, chess players can get checked for cheating - it seems like a necessity if chess ever wants to be taken seriously.

[@Kamamura2]

... but for the silly youtube crowd, he is guilty of "sounding like Putin".

[@raptorcrasherinc.9823]

He needs to accept when he is wrong when he knows that he is not an expert. He also should not be publicly accusing 12 year olds without evidence. But yes, these are measures that need to be taken in some form.

[@changeminds2736]

He is so smart that he doesn't even realize he is being an idiot. At the end of the interview he either accused his opponent in _this_ OTB game of cheating OL or he just proved his argument is dead wrong, OL and OTB are two different games with there own statistics and mathematical probabilities.

[@tristanthamm505]

​@@raptorcrasherinc.9823 His criticisms might not always be warranted but he's pointing out a legitimate problem. Cheating will only get worse with AI and smarter tools to avoid detection and there will need to be measures taken to combat it and to guarantee integrity in the sport.

[@raptorcrasherinc.9823]

@@tristanthamm505 So criticize it smartly. I agree that more and more people are going to get away with cheating, but you cannot punish people who did not do anything. People like Kramnik are trying to get people banned without any proof that they actually did anything. False accusations are just as harmful to the integrity of the game as letting cheaters get away with it.

[@ChessMusclesBro]

Kramnik: I didn’t prepare Also Kramnik: spent 20 hours a day looking at chess for the last 6 weeks

[@antclaro]

Preparation for a match in chess terms means studying most of, if not all, the classical games the opponent has played, and his openings and possible variations the opponent is likely to play. It does not mean in the traditional sense, as doing your best to be in good condition.

[@azzaamekk5264]

Reminds you of Hikaru

[@ChessMusclesBro]

@@azzaamekk5264 💯

[@humbleguy1533]

That’s how you become world champion. That’s light prep work compared to what he’s done before.

[@elijaharsenault]

kramnik actually comes across as pretty pleasant in this interview, contrary to how he behaves online

[@robinhoodwinker8621]

If you actually watched his streams, he’s always pleasant. If you watch chess drama whores, they just snip dramatic bits out of context and make him look like an ass :)

[@dessertstorm7476]

you think world champions cant also be keyboard warriors?

[@AstrologiaHumanista87]

He is actually a pretty pleasant guy. Watch his youtube channel

[@joseviu969]

@@AstrologiaHumanista87 hes the embodiment of pretentiousness

[@LukBacca]

Probably his language barrier online that makes it a lot worse

[@chessforfunonly1586]

"You're tall, how did that happen?" Stupidiest interview question of all time.

[@kaszaspeter77]

Hikaru is currently playing OTB in Norway Chess and is holding his own (currently on second position) against some of the best players in the world. If he can do that, I find it hard to believe he needs to or wants to cheat in some meaningless online games against almost nobodies.

[@fenomeral]

It's like a completely different person, irl Kramnik vs online Kramnik

[@thebcwonder4850]

He like me fr

[@gilgamesh8334]

How? He’s talking the same bullshit

[@JSBenjoyer]

Its not what he speaks about, its about how he speaks.

[@luminescentgem7254]

I mean who isn't?

[@ChrisRoomProductions]

@@gilgamesh8334 What is the bullshit? I don't understand what is bullshit about what I have heard him say in this video but maybe I'm missing something

[@chriszhang1660]

Waiting for a Hikaru reaction video

[@gungagalunga9040]

Hikaru: " Hahahahahahahahaha

[@SharptonsRaceCard]

You know it's coming lol

[@brettdiehl1965]

"I literally don't care."

[@joel6513]

@@brettdiehl1965 He seems to care when he is winning and not care when he losses..

[@JanDarkyy]

@@joel6513 i think its otherwise cause he spams the phrase when he wins more than when he loses

[@marcusdac]

I dont think his line of thought is wrong. Checking is actually good for the sport

[@jotarokujo5132]

They do, and ban players all the time. Just not the ones who beat Kramnik's ass, because he is washed up.

[@sayantopics77]

Superb how confrontational levy is about opposing kramnik with respect. People most probably won't have the guts to say that you should not do this or maybe you are wrong in front of them especially when the other person is very respected and a world champion.

[@jonathanhenderson9422]

One thing I think Kramnik fails to take into account is that it's entirely possible that people playing against Hikaru (and Magnus) are more likely to be intimidated and thus play worse than they normally would. The thing about statistics is that it's about averages, but averages don't tell us if someone is playing better or worse than those averages at that time against that opponent. It's not surprising at all to me that Magnus and Hikaru have huge psychological advantages over the field and this accounts for their better-than-average performances.

[@Sapp726]

Why is it okay for people to mention the fact that Hans Nieman admitted to cheating online against him in the Magnus incident but when Kramnik mentions that a young kid is playing at the top 15 level online it is seen as cruel? All top players should be investigated on a regular basis online. Kramnik's point about Hikaru's opponents having potentially illegitimate rating is also valid.

[@JSBenjoyer]

Niemann is no longer a kid, and has cheated multiple times. Lets say a 10 year old cheats in chess. It would be the best to not make it public since doing so could damage the kid's life and career severely. However, those same actions could be talked about when the kid grows up, if there is enough reason to do so, (for example if they are found guilty of cheating again, like in the case of Hans Niemann.)

[@dessertstorm7476]

also....obviously...one is a confirmed, admitted cheat and one is being accused with paper thin justification.

[@maximuz05]

NGL, I don’t think Kramnik is a nutball anymore. His reasoning was very sound and the Hikaru thing made perfect sense.

[@glitch504sans9]

What? So we let he kid cheat till he grow up are you high

[@TheKyleBrah]

Kramnik contradicts himself: - Chess Technology is moving forward at a very fast rate. This means kids have easier access to cheating methods. There's almost no way kids of this era are stronger than kids of my era. The numbers are illogical. - He neglects to consider that kids today are so incredibly strong at Chess BECAUSE of better Technology. They're able to learn with the best Chess Engines, in the palm of their hands... Something a GM of the past would have had to manually do, with teams of other GMs. Chess Engines have elevated Chess understanding to such an insane degree, and kids, being especially Tech Savvy these days, are able to learn with Chess Engines from very young.

[@okolenmi7511]

better technologies = degradation. There are not so much kids who are not affected by something like TikTok

[@6121FRobotics]

@@okolenmi7511 true but the kids at elite level are more obsessed with chess than anything else anyways so it's not really relevant

[@YtubeUserr]

@@okolenmi7511 You are underestimating a super-talented kid who is obsessed with chess 24/7. And with technology they become beasts.

[@Ishbikes]

Better technology, yet people are getting dumber. They took cursive out of schools, they banned certain books. Seems like things are going backwards. Therefore, I can relate to what he’s saying.

[@TheKyleBrah]

@@Ishbikes Neither of those have occurred in my country, thankfully.

[@waterhouse9693]

I think this interview is really important. At least for me, Kramnik seemed like a lunatic/conspiracy theorist online, but an in-person interview shows he’s just a regular guy who has some stronger opinions about cheating because he loves the game so much Edit: After careful review of the Clash Of Claims, I retract my statement. This man is insane.

[@ajtatosmano2]

That's because he intentionally takes back from his aggressive and lunatic behaviour. And it's not an opinion problem, he is literally have a mental problem. He refuses to agree to the experts, the exacts same ones he asks for participating. It's a mental block, you can say anything to him, paranoia won't let him accept the facts. I hope I am wrong and someone's analysis will turn his head, I really do, but I don't think it will happen.

[@Taima]

He's just intelligent enough to know how to appear a certain way when he absolutely needs to. Dude's still batshit delusional.

[@6121FRobotics]

@@ajtatosmano2 It's pretty easy to be a lunatic online. For everyone, not just Kramnik. He doesn't have a mental problem he just needs to get off twitter

[@ajtatosmano2]

@@6121FRobotics Then why is that he ignores unpaid Cambridge statistics professor's opinion? And many other independent statisticians' and mathematicians' opinion? The mentioned prof. even gave a very easy to understand and thorought explanation.

[@6121FRobotics]

@@ajtatosmano2 because he's being a lunatic from logging on to twitter so much. He just needs to get off the internet for a while and cool down.

[@TechMaestro-rs9ti]

This is such a nice interview. Kramnik does have a lot of solid points. I see things more from his POV now. It’s a difficult subject that must be taken seriously. Kramnik is very intelligent

[@manurshankar1465]

Kramnik is a former World Champion and talks sensibly and logically all the time. Why does he get so much hate when his intention is only to clean the game of cheating? When Magnus or anyone else talks of it, no one has a problem. Is it a USA vs Russia kind of thing? Its so silly when lower rated players play engine moves with seconds on the clock against super GMs like Kramnik, Kamsky etc. in critical stages and no one is allowed to have any suspicion!

[@sherzadametow]

@@manurshankar1465 tf with russia and usa ? Just watch his game against abdusattorov and you will see, he has no respect, always have excuses , victim, delusional ....

[@edisvelicanin8854]

Magnus does not report every user that beats him though 😅

[@GelfandTransform]

This was a great interview! Levy maintaining a good atmosphere while still asking some of the tough questions people have been debating - and letting Kramnik explain his points of view without interruptions.

[@Mike-bh9vs]

When Levy said one of the youngest 12 year olds I cracked up

[@glitch504sans9]

Hes nervous. Which is normal that's what happens when a strong personality has the strong position against a weak personality

[@karmapolice42]

Watch Kramnik's video "DISGRACE" on his channel, it's absolutely nuts, as in, quite convincing, seeing someone make countless beginner mistakes and then play a flawless game with inhuman, unnecessarily complicated, super-accurate moves against against GM Nepo, then back to playing like a (relative to a GM 😅) beginner.

[@elasticharmony]

Yes I ve experience against these kind , they are very numerous online. I actually played some one rated 1033 but has 100% acc with a movement speed less than 5secs

[@mitchgoldstein6720]

@@elasticharmonyreport that person fs, but top players only need to cheat a couple of times throughout a game

[@dessertstorm7476]

every streamer has played cheats. There's dozens of videos. Most get banned fairly quickly

[@karmapolice42]

@@dessertstorm7476 yeah sorry, the point was it was an FM in TT, obv cheats exist in general and we've all experienced it, but Kramnik's argument is titled players are blatantly cheating in prize money tournaments and getting away with it despite it being blatant, and the DISGRACE video is a fairly convincing case for that.

[@karmapolice42]

@@mitchgoldstein6720 theoretically top players only need to cheat 1-2 times to beat someone their own level bc they can keep up with them until an opportunity presents itself, but so long as there isn't a huge tactical shot hanging, I'd argue you will need to play *consistently* excellently to keep up w/ a GM hundreds of points higher rated than you, and it's this consistently playing above your level which is odd and this is actually beautifully demonstrated in the Disgrace video, although the Disgrace video also features inhuman moves such as not taking queens off to simplify when it's opponent's only source of counterplay, or inhuman and unnecessarily complex but slightly more accurate moves in a game that's already winning, "found" in seconds.

[@luweezgrey]

Hikaru basically defying the laws of mathematics at this point 💀

[@obibullett]

so I stopped this video at 0:42 and went to subscribe to Kramnik's channel. And if we can not get a world champ to 100k... what are we even doing here? #respect #legend

[@sorenwood5395]

Been out of town, but just wanted to comment on how well you handled that interview and how interesting it is to hear Kramnik’s perspective. Overall a great balance between letting him speak, and challenging what he was saying. Mad respect.

[@relaxd0ntd01t]

Very interesting content. but seriously it's nice to have actual discussions even though there is obvious disagreement

[@Thoompa896]

Kramnik comes off pretty reasonable here. I'm glad we got to hear him explain himself properly. He's trying to introduce a new system to deal with a big problem and there are always going to be kinks to work out. He's just trying to get the ball rolling. Excellent video Levi, great journalism

[@Arguing101]

Not really. Calling himself a logical person and that the math factually proves he is right when, time and time again, he has shown to make incredulously bad logical fallacies and have complete misunderstandings of statistics is peak pseudointellectualism. He's right on a broad spectrum. Cheating likely exists and theres little wrong with more vetting. And, frankly, exhibitions like this would be great for chess. But when it comes to the details, he is just really good at making people think he sounds smart.

[@kattee1956]

I guess "trying to get the ball rolling on a new system" is ONE way of describing a salty old man slinging cheating accusations at innocent people as quickly as he can. He is reasonable in one respect........that more needs to be done about cheating. There is nothing reasonable about the rest of his truly abhorrent behavior. What a horrendous way to end an otherwise astounding career.

[@noone-ld7pt]

His core argument that cheating is a fundamental threat to the game has never been bad, it's the way he goes about it that is extremely problematic. He cherrypicks outliers and accuses players (sorry, "insinuates") based on his low high school level understanding of statistics, and then he calls more qualified people stupid when they push back on his conclusions. Take Jospem; he finished 2nd in titled tuesday and scored 4.5/10 against Danya in a blitz match with a whole fucking film crew in his house. And does Kramnik even show the tiniest sign of doubt about his accusations? No, he doubles down and starts spraying nonsense about how Jospem got lucky this time and was playing worse than normal even though his performance was right in line with his previous ones. That is not someone who's trying to save chess, that is someone trying to protect his fragile ego. The fact that he's not willing to walk back or apologize for his statements about Hikaru is a prime example of this. Hikaru has an unfathomable amount of video evidence not only showing his level and abilities, but giving unbelievably detailed insights into how he thinks and calculates. I am hard pressed to think of a single other player with more evidence that they are not cheating, but Kramnik sees a big number, does super basic compounding probability calculation and starts screaming cheater without any further thought. Kramnik simply doesn't grasp the limitations of ratings and statistics and he is completely ruining his reputation by accusing anyone who has the nerve to play well against him.

[@davidstubbs8896]

@@noone-ld7pt Excellently said!!!

[@AdamGaffney96]

9:50 The problem here that I think he's underestimating is what the "facts" actually are that are coming through with his statistics. The only fact that comes from the statistical analysis is that it's a low probability of Hikaru getting those streaks. However as soon as you mention those facts in any way related to cheating, you are introducing opinion. Stats are stats, but it's basically common knowledge that stats are the number 1 thing abused when someone is trying to convince you of a falsehood. Statistics can be really easily manipulated through data selection, statistical method used, and even just how you frame the numbers within a paragraph. For example, "Hikaru won 48 games in a row" and "Cheating Blog Post: Hikaru somehow managed to win 48 games in a row, how very interesting" are technically conveying the same information, however one has some very obvious connotations that are intended to lead the reader to a certain conclusion. In addition, if you find streaks, and then just analyse the streaks of course it's going to look suspicious. You should analyse all the games and results, and hold the streaks in context of the wider performance, otherwise you're not accounting for the mental aspect of tilt. It's much easier to lose 5 games in a row, than it is to lose the first game, because you're getting more and more frustrated and not thinking through your moves as much. I didn't mean to go off on one, one of my specialist subjects in my daily work is representing statistics and specifically the misuse of statistics, so I think about this stuff all the time. Here's a fun example to demonstrate my point: "20% of all car crashes are a result of drunk driving. Therefore 80% of car crashes are not a result of drunk driving. Therefore you are less likely to crash if you drunk drive."

[@JohnSmith-nm1jk]

Kramnik: I don't accuse anyone, I just want to get them checked. It is based on statistics. Also Kramnik: it is all very clear now, no doubt. *blocks and reports right after the game even before checking their accuracy*

[@michaelmassaro4375]

Mad Respect for Kramlik he does seem like a good guy and a gentleman whether his allegations will ever be substantiated no telling Best of luck to him in his future matches

[@vrian-ir]

He was a very Interesting person and He had a very good point, CHESS is becoming more and more popular and because of online chess cheating has become worse and worse and these checkings shouldn't be so abnormal and as a bonus there would be more and more Interesting OTB chess.

[@bekapis]

Kramnik is an interesting person to milk. Congrats Levy

[@danielduranloosli]

Yup, Kramnik is exactly the arrogant bitter old guy he seems to be online, hiding behind technicalities to say he is not accusing anybody right after he objectively and literally accuses everybody.

[@playlistsubs]

I was actually surprised how reasonable Kramnik is and I agree that if there's a logically, mathematically low probability, it should be examined thoroughly. But I'm afraid he's forgetting one thing - mental and emotional state of players has a huge impact on their performances and I worry that once they're accused of cheating officially and examined and controlled severely, their performances will just get worse kinda naturally due to the insane amount of stress and mental discomfort.

[@glitch504sans9]

Since his mentality is extremely strong he doesnt really pay attention to the mentality since they should be in his level

[@toygunkarsligil4328]

Okey so lets do the procedure

[@SamuelGrguric]

kramnik is surprisingly rational, tbh, at least in this interview

[@Bettor.Profits]

“I won’t do any more *interviews* online, only over the board *interviews* “

[@mikestaff3042]

They are just 2 guys talking, and both love chess. He mentioned that ( and he should be proud, it’s a huge achievement he has worked very hard on) and moved on straight away to Kramniks channel and his goals for his channel, and let’s face it Kramnik will get huge amount of exposure and subs thanks to that.

[@flora5090]

Kramnik saying he'd be convinced of a player's legitimacy re cheating if presented with clear statistics feels so insincere when he's not a statistician himself and he's deleted comments under his blog from statistics professors who disagreed with him and showed clear evidence

[@quill444]

_To accuse or even name a player as being suspicious of cheating without legitimate and real and conclusive proof is the only real existential threat to chess._ - j q t -

[@zazu9117]

Proof can't be submitted without exactly what he proposes. Meantime, everyone is suspicious. That's how it works in probably all of the sports.

[@RhombicChthulhuSONIC]

You don't need proof to be suspicious. Suspicions come before proof smh.

[@adambyrd6185]

Kramnik: These questions were to good… Reported

[@sinanatairmak1839]

In the 2022 Speed Chess Championship, Magnus beat Caruana 22 to 4. Statistics alone do not clearly explain this outcome, as there is also a psychological factor involved. Stop acting like you know anything.

[@6121FRobotics]

Yeah: Caruana is also known to be bad at blitz compared to other gms at his level (2750 and above). He makes a lot more blunders in low time control. Elo doesn't tell the whole story.

[@KcbControl]

Then we should include psychologist in the format of verifying one's credibility.

[@falquicao8331]

​@@6121FRoboticsdo you seriously think Caruana is weaker than Carlsen by 296 Elo points? That's the difference between Carlsen and a strong IM/weak GM. If you assume, like Kramnik has done, that every match is independent and strength is exactly the same as Elo, two players of 100 points Elo difference should get that score less than 2% of the time.

[@6121FRobotics]

@@falquicao8331 when did I say he was weaker by 296 elo points?

[@6121FRobotics]

@@falquicao8331 bro is tripping so hard

[@cryptodonkey8926]

"I am not accusing him" except he refused to play Jose Martinez online anymore.

[@thefixer742]

I believe chess clubs could play a crucial role in combating online cheating by establishing monitored areas where players can compete under the watchful eye of FIDE arbiters. This not only ensures fair play but also underscores the importance of chess clubs in maintaining the integrity of the game.

[@That274]

This went better then I thought it will

[@powergi3996]

Kramnik doesn't understand that mathematical models often don't make any sense at the extremes, especially the way ELO works at the extremes. Hikaru is the world #2/3 in the world. His math/probability model doesn't work for him and most of the super GMs.

[@cameronjack1095]

Great point. Outliers are outliers. That doesn't mean they aren't real.

[@davidtj8846]

Kramnik is actually making a reasonable point here

[@lush1us]

timestamp? i think i missed it

[@barefootalien]

About the need for better systems, more normalization of anti-cheating measures, a unified front among governing bodies, absolutely. Now if only he understood statistics and didn't babble meaningless nonsense to try to accuse people without accusing them...

[@ankeborg9122]

@@lush1us When you and the internet mob get past 1200 elo you might start understanding his points.

[@lush1us]

@@ankeborg9122 XD. i defer to him for chess strats... but that's where my deference ends

[@richard999]

Forget the snipers - great idea to interview Kramnik - this should be a series to interview all the living World Champions. Kramnik is such a refreshing personality in contrast to others that do not need to be named.

[@swedishpsychopath8795]

In Norway we have a leader of a political party (Bjørnar Moxnes) who has top government pay and even comes from a very good background with a large personal wealth. HE STILL WAS CAUGHT STEALING a pair of sunglasses at Gardermoen airport. HE HAD NO REASON what-so-ever for stealing since he had/have enough money, but he still did it. Maybe this is what Kramnik means? People cheat / steal for the thrill even if they are competent enough to win in chess / pay for sunglasses without cheating?

[@MikkiLGalloway]

Levy does such a great job. His attitude makes the conversation very pleasant and he asks questions that let Kramnik express himself.

[@damusagi]

Original Title: I INTERVIEWED VLADIMIR KRAMNIK!!!!!

[@Taima]

Now it's "I confronted Kramnik."

[@MikeKing001]

I can't believe this content creator got an interview with the foremost statistician of the age.

[@micahhilles]

Which one's which😂

[@Taima]

@@micahhilles yes

[@matthewwyjad]

Great interview. I really appreciate being able to hear him.Speak rather than just hear What has been written and what other people think about what he has said.