I couldn't understand why this PC was so cheap... until I looked inside.

[@ChrisD__]

I didn't realize you moved your hands when you talk. XD

[@b.henriques9871]

ahhaah sam

[@naws69]

you could see them through his youtube plaque

[@MSTheDev]

Maybe he keeps it hidden to avoid this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKikmqKEZ9KnqaM

[@JT-ko2ib]

Yes, lol.

[@CaveyMoth]

It's starting to feel like Digital Foundry.

[@CaveyMoth]

You keep apologizing and saying that you made a terrible mistake. Come on, bro. It was just £21. We've all made much bigger mistakes.

[@WTFBOOMDOOM]

Like my parents 9 months before my birth?

[@MemesAndvids]

@@WTFBOOMDOOM like me when I decided to put kids in my attic 😀

[@ozmobozo]

Like the art school teacher in Germany

[@richardrussell7082]

I can beat all of you .... I bought the Fallout 76 Power Armour Edition. >_

[@harrison00xXx]

haha true my biggest mistake was a 700$ GPU nearly 2 decades ago, yes in 2004 there were already close to 1000$ customer/gaming grade graphics cards. Dont think this is a weird flex, I learned my lesson, never bought overpriced crap anymore. Thats why i am not allowed to buy a new PC anymore, CPUs overpriced(yes, also the so loved Ryzens....!), GPUs and RAM heavily overpriced. Whats finally getting "cheap" are SSDs, especially in 2,5" SATA versions. HDDs i also should boycott, they are so expensive, even if you are only looking for a 2-4TB 3,5"....

[@Jokkepappaification]

You look a bit red mate

[@Francisco-j1e]

Isnt he australian? They re red over there.

[@williewalrus]

F. Teixeira British, it’s been hot recently

[@Thatisnoneofmybusiness]

@@Francisco-j1e lol, he's from the UK, how could you mistake that accent for an aussie?

[@spicynugget5050]

@@Francisco-j1e Australian 😂bruhhhh

[@grindererrofficial3755]

@@spicynugget5050 fackmedeath how i also had him as australian O.o whats wrong with this world--

[@theforthdoctor7872]

Your reflection during the hitman section almost gave me a heart attack.

[@neilwalker4575]

Me too. I thought some strange man was creeping up on me!

[@endame90]

​@@neilwalker4575 I didn't notice the reflection until I read your comment, now I can't get away my eyes from it

[@kagato82]

Same here. Thought I was about to get killed.

[@mohameduwaiskhan3367]

Bruh I'm supposed to be in online classes and I thought my dad walked into my room😂

[@DoctorX17]

Same!

[@vehiclefreak409]

I'll never understand why they do this. Just put it in a smaller enclosure rather than blocking off holes on the case.

[@LarsMarvinTv2]

its cheaper than creating a whole new design. Just have one case design and put in dozens of configurations means that they only have to store one model and can build any system inside them. Saves a lot of money in storage and design.

[@tweakz_tech]

They don't understand what case design means.

[@danieledwards3376]

It's a USFF PC in a normal size case, for the worst of both worlds.

[@nathansomething4634]

You get significant price breaks when buying tons and tons of one design versus 1/3 of three designs, etc. This is called a price break; the more you order of one thing, the cheaper they give each one for. This is because they only have to configure their factory once to make the thing and can just let it run until the order is done, rather than shutting down, reconfiguring, and starting it back up. All of that stuff in between takes time, and factory time is money. The manufacturer will also have an MOQ, or Minimum Order Quantity. For big custom items like this case, they may have to order 10,000+ just to get the manufacturer to make any at all. To get around this, they'd just have the needed blanking/adapter plates made somewhere else (extremely cheap) and assemble.

[@juanpabloflores8179]

Economy of scale.

[@szab04]

It's all good, you still have the 8 gigs of ram and a 1tb hard drive. Still a good buy if you look at this components.

[@Doman2000]

yes, lot's of uses for this pc still, even you got the power adapter with it, so all is good.

[@rhyzon]

I'd swap the HDD for a 120 gig SSD and voila! Cheapo office PC.

[@odioalospoopers]

indeed. around here the average 1tb hdd is worth around thrice what you paid for that machine

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

Better as a Linux PC

[@batsonelectronics]

the drive is 7 years old though and likely near end of life. Here in the USA a new WD Blue 1 TB drive is $45 from Newegg with free shipping and 2 yr warranty.

[@CasualGamers]

Some OEM motherboards also have non-atx PSU connectors. That's a pain.

[@sgcs]

Boi this one is worse

[@mg86_]

at least you can get an adapter for those

[@bitelaserkhalif]

Add salt to wound with BTX motherboard

[@ImThico]

Não esperava um comentário seu aqui

[@mcslender2965]

@@sgcs Not really since adapters are readily available

[@telgou]

Seller: 60fps guaranteed Hitman

[@phantomgunz1167]

Yeap, pLAyS MoDeRn WaRfAre on HiGh 144fps+++!!!

[@Deuteriumaddict]

@@phantomgunz1167 on 4k 3 monitors no sweat

[@wernerhaah5744]

* Hitman 2 Silent Assassin from 2002.

[@wishusknight3009]

When someone asks me how fast my car accelerates, I say "It does Zero to sixty"... And it takes a few seconds for people to get the joke.

[@Deuteriumaddict]

@@wishusknight3009 i still don't get it lol

[@VietNguyen-vj2np]

Fraps and Afterburner doesn't work because of the new csgo update that block third party program. You can still use net_graph console command to display FPS though.

[@gigibecali699]

The security feature can be turned off,so your comment is 0

[@Reecej23]

You saved a life today thank you.

[@thelordkiller_ytxxshadowmi8813]

Damn dude , why?

[@aoelp]

@@gigibecali699 Or you can just run the "opensorce" version or more realistically an older cracked one.

[@ugniusltu2968]

to disable the security feature type -untrusted in the lauch options in steam

[@Lagged2Death]

I thought I knew my way around PC hardware, but I've never seen or heard of a machine that was built this way. So you've taught me something today! Thank you!

[@ianweber9248]

Lagged2Death It’s called thin Mini ITX and, while I’m not sure if it was ever an “official” standard, enough companies made enough hardware (Asus has listings for thin mini itx mobos as recent as the H310 chipset) around it for it to be standard enough. I can’t say I’ve seen/heard of any with standard DIMM slots though, most of the ones I’m familiar with use SODIMMs since they mount flat against the board lowering the height (think PCs built into cases similar in size to standalone DVD players) of the overall system even further.

[@batsonelectronics]

I started seeing them around 2009 here in the USA, many all in one machines use an external power supply as well.

[@theshield2004]

Someone got some sun this weekend!!!

[@darknight474]

sunburn

[@toumpanis]

Could it be high blood pressure because of his purchase?

[@mgf909]

I need to get some sun lmao

[@thealien_ali3382]

Someone penatrated him

[@DoomGuy9001-MK4]

If you have ever heard of a guy called Carey Holtzman, he did an in depth review on this and said some honest thoughts of what he thought of HP and their pre-built machines.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah love his videos, one of the people who inspired me to start :)

[@TheCircuitWizard]

@@RandomGaminginHD Could have been worse, Carey bought it brand new at the time for around $250 IIRC haha

[@trafficracer124]

I'm trying to find that video ur talking about, anyone got a link?

[@subbookkeeper]

Yeah even though his machine was much worse. It was some embedded cpu that had fraction of the old Pentium 2020 performance. I guess it might've been some Atom CPU.

[@detmer87]

Carey Holtzman is such a fool. Talks way too much jibberish. The most funny videos are the ones where he f*cked up and the next video he goes full defense (and how the world isn't round and so on...)

[@Peace_Maker]

you can do net_graph 1 in the CS:GO console to get the in game fps counter

[@Benjamin-ko1fg]

Or cl_showfps 1 for only framerate

[@Chickenjump]

Or you can enable it on Steam.

[@derickvo317]

Or just do all of it on top of MSI afterburner

[@Peace_Maker]

@@derickvo317 he said MSI afterburner wasn't working

[@huyduongquang1438]

@@derickvo317 csgo just launched its"trusted mode" so it denies any 3rd monitoring program, I recently got vac for using msi afterburner so well... net_graph 1 is the only way

[@akashjaiswar9437]

I really love this channel as it's the one which connects with me and he understands what some people can afford or not.

[@sushimshah2896]

"Let's try & get some sort of joy out of this terrible situation" 2020-……

[@LSK2K]

The year actually started off good with the death of that Iranian guy but went to hell with the release of the virus.

[@czrptr6849]

@@LSK2K how can a death by a drone be good?

[@LSK2K]

@@czrptr6849 it killed him, that's how.

[@anthonyhandley446]

Can we stop saying the year sucks

[@naws69]

i like that he uses hand gestures. but we could only see them through the play button.

[@lepterfirefall]

Once you see it....you cant take your eyes off it!

[@DanielCardei]

To be fair those PCs today people pay you to take it. They are absolutely limited but because of KZbinrs like you we can see that we can restore them and make them run basic or older games or even some older production software. BTW awesome video :D

[@harrison00xXx]

True, i got in end 2016 also a PC for free (from a friend, he said otherwise he throw Mainboard/CPU/Ram away xD) It was even a i5 4430/H87 Board and i think 8Gb slow Ram. This PC is with my older graphics card, a Radeon HD 6950 2GB still my 2nd, but actually more of a 3rd gaming rig/Multibox PC and didnt use it since over a year. As much i loved how "fast" the 4430 was compared to my older Phenom II X6, i still shot a cheap i7 4790k in an auction, found out the H87 Board dont like the 4790k (despite the fact it was in supported CPU list and Bios updated) and ended up with Z97 mainboard too and because of "pushing" the system to the limits also the best DDR3 ram aviable, so my 4790k easily beats a 7700k for cheap. If he wanted to throw away a Dualcore 2C/2T Pentium, i probably would let him throw away this useless piece of crap xD

[@guser436]

@@harrison00xXx wtf who throws away a 4th gen i5. I would kill for that processor rn

[@harrison00xXx]

@@guser436 people with too much money thinking this pc is trash xD

[@Yantonio7]

the fact that you express yoself moving your hands its really nice, looks great to be honest, and its considered like a good thing when you talk in front of big audiences

[@georgep8429]

0:19 "Guy who looked into Chernobyl reactor in that one scene", colorized -1986

[@KissesLoveKawaii]

dear diary. Today I watched a talking tomato talk about cheapo PC.

[@r3mus47]

Says the guy with an anime profile picture, you can't judge shit.

[@brady1863]

r3m us His face is red because it’s hot that’s why they said tomato, they’re not insulting his face.

[@unkvan-theunknown2403]

Should have put some "jk" or something similar to reddit /s so some people doesn't get offended for other people or at least understand a joke.

[@lauragarza1554]

#Redlivesmatters

[@zirconia3]

You missed it: "Today I watched a talking tomato talk about a potato."

[@Mico605]

Type cl_showfps 1 in CSGOs console (activated on ~ if its enabled in settings), it will give you an FPS counter in game.

[@interstellartravel]

You can enable fps display in Steam settings as well.

[@helloimash]

I'd like to try to explain why a computer company does this. In the world of office PCs, your margins and profit are absolutely key. It makes *a lot* more sense if you can produce one PC case that you can use all up and down various price categories, because your margins are much higher on one very flexible PC case vs. the whole design process of several unique cases. In this case, the hardware is likely the cheapest possible configuration available - suitable (for example) sitting under a receptionist or secretary's desk, whose IT needs are extremely basic and so the company wants to buy something as cheap as possible. For this use case, the company selling this makes the best profit because all that's really unique to this PC is the internal guts. Everything else is reused from what they already have and so their profit on each of these sold is good. Hope this is helpful, genuinely.

[@Fireflyepic]

Also, never buy Dell Optiplex machines. Got a Dell Optiplex 360 back in the day. While it was a big case -- looked like full ATX -- it was designed in such a way that you could only put a single slot graphics card less than maybe 6 inches long in it. There was capacitors sticking out just behind the PCIe slot preventing longer cards, and it was outright lacking a PCI bracket knockout that would allow you to do double slot... be careful when buying these prebuilts. Make sure you Google pictures of their insides.

[@zWORMzGaming]

well, at least it runs csgo with decent fps! ahaha BTW, to display the FPS in csgo with MSI Afterburner, you now have to start the game in untrusted mode. Just write "-untrusted" in the launch options :)

[@TheSilviu8x]

This is not an All in one, this is "None in one"

[@reik019]

It's so true that it almost hurts. Kind of the PC kit my father bought... The board has *ONLY* a white PCI slot, but the IGD is actually quite capable (a third part of an Radeon 7 rv3, more or less) Well, at least it has an actual PSU, so, bonus!

[@Joel-ew1zm]

For the life of me, the only reason I can think that this would exist is because they had to clear stock of micro ATX cases. This tier of hardware doesn't even belong in a small-form-factor. This is micro-desktop / budget laptop tier hardware. HP has always been notorious in my book for cutting corners like this.

[@drumsmoker731]

Classic case of auction-bargain-fever. Never let your guard down 😁

[@uss-dh7909]

Picked one of these up at a pawnshop for around $120 five years ago. Came with a baller 27' 1080 monitor but damn, that thing is just a box full of barely hot air. I'm almost tempted to make a cardboard case with it.

[@kyles8524]

I would pay 20 dollars for this, it would make a good machine for emulation

[@lbsiuk]

There's one on eBay right now for £20.

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

You know the Pentium is gonna be bad, when they call it the G "2020"

[@NoFeelings..]

Do you remember that scene from The Matrix when Neo’s mouth disappear? That’s how I felt when you showed back of that case 😂

[@juanpabloflores8179]

NoFeelings hahaha, trying to scream in horror, but you can't.

[@NoFeelings..]

Juan Pablo Flores That’s was exactly my reaction xd

[@andreasbartel3449]

I bought one like this, a Compaq, for my wife as an office PC. It worked fine, upgraded the RAM and later swapped the CPU to the I5-3470T, which is the maximum you can go. I replaced it with an Optiplex 7010; but I think if you put in a SSD, the I5-3470T and maximum RAM, which I think was 8GB you still get a decent office PC with low power consumption. And of course it runs on Windows 10.

[@daviidddx]

'Hello and welcome everyone, to another video. Now, the other day, I went outside....' I thought you were going to comment on the sunburn, keep up the content bro I love it!

[@kekistanifreedomfighter4197]

I got an F-Greenwood ITX board with an AMD Kabani dual core APU that's pretty much exactly like that board. It was really only good for a linux box for tweaking & a dedicated KODI machine. Nice score for 8 gigs of ram & a full tower case.

[@1337kavin]

7:35 scared the shit outa me idk why

[@PearComputingDevices]

Your not upgrading much with that thing. I tend to stay from HP because like Acer you tend to get the bottom of the barrel hardware but at least with Acer you kinda know what your getting. Lenovo is sometimes like this too and I've seen Dells do this trickery but not very often. I tend to go for business systems anyway but HP just seems to be among the worst when it comes to buying a computer that you can significantly upgrade. Unless of course we are talking about Apple. Then that might make the top of the list these days for the least easily upgraded systems.

[@jagdtigger]

If it has a wifi module you got your pci slot, just needs an adapter.....

[@akimbofurry2179]

realy?

[@TheTurnipKing]

Still not ideal. Noplace to mount the card since the mobo is at the bottom of the case and it may well be very pci lane limited. In addition mini pcie slots have a few different variations and I don't think all are suited to PCIe bus adaptors.

[@indask8]

I don't see one... I checked IPXSB-DM on google for a closeup, no mini PCI-E on sight edit : datasheet from hp, no mini PCI-E : support.hp.com/hr-en/document/c03036757

[@akimbofurry2179]

@@indask8 As a tech nerd, this coment section, and dedication fills my heart with glee.

[@jagdtigger]

@@TheTurnipKing Not ideal, but at least it would be better than the IGP..... ;D Plus adaptors arent that expensive so it worth a shot.

[@DM_2145]

As someone who still games on a laptop with an Intel UHD 620, those graphics aren't so foreign to me really..

[@DesumetaruLiadz666]

Richard from Digital Foundry has new jazz hands challenger lol nice videos mate.

[@logancraig4234]

Honestly, a PC like that, I'd still buy cause I can fix it up a little and donate it to someone in need!

[@juanpabloflores8179]

There is a saying in my country (it's in spanish, don't think there is an equivalent in english, so I will translate as meaningful as possible): "even the best hunter also misses the hare". So don't feel bad about your choice.

[@ehsnils]

That would be nice for a small low-power application. Not a huge amount of money and as long as it works then it's not a total waste.

[@TechnoLadz]

I think the problem is is that the iGPU only has 256MB dedicated to it, if you tried it with 512MB or 1GB it may perform better

[@ianmcevoy7106]

None of us are immune to howlers like this. At least you still got good value for money.

[@NaahBruhX]

Csgo has an inbuilt stat display option tho:- 1. Go to settings and activate the developer console option. 2. Press the ~ key in game and type 'net_graph 1' without the quotes. Displays FPS ping and packet loss percentage on the bottom of the game at all times.

[@rahulmohanty4724]

I believe the case can be reused you can mount a atx psu by drillind out the rivets holding the block off plate near the mounting holes for psu. If I was at your place I would build a sleeper PC in that case

[@raven80wolfx2]

Honestly I wouldn't call you an idiot. This is awesome learning experience. You got a great deal regardless like you said. I think being honest and showing viewers both sides of used parts is important. I have seen strange things like a cpu that made pice slots no function. It would only work with one of pice slots for graphics card. You can bring back graphics cards by flash their bios. Used parts are always more interesting and require people like you who have experience with them old or new.

[@rafaelrsc9640]

My laptop went wrong in the lockdown and, I had to use a computer that was laying around at home. As it was a PC I thought I could do some mods to it, but before opening it I searched on the internet for my 2012 HP model. It turned out to be a similar PC but with an Intel i3 3240t.

[@JW86SH]

I definitely want to see a video of this thing in action. BENCHMARKS!!! Show it off against another PC, like a Windows XP PC.

[@jaimenbrunson1652]

I had the same exact one and I was pissed when I looked at the inside realizing there was no PCIe slot

[@HellFire107]

I own this computer! Pentium G2020T & 4GB RAM. No PCI Express slot. It ran terribly with the stock hard drive & but after an SSD upgrade, it became a lot more capable. Thinking about upgrading the CPU to a 3220T and RAM to 8GB... But it's probably not worth it considering what new hardware is capable of.

[@iamfearitself1465]

I remember doing similar but it was an Lenovo with a A8-6410 with a PCI slot and a dreaded GT-720 2GB Now rocking a RyZen 3700x, 16gb ram, 1TB NVME 4.0 with a X570 board and RTX-2060 so not every beginning has a bad end. It's just use case at the time, when I had the mistake of a pc I was literally broke and had nothing that I could game on in the slightest.

[@NumptyMcNumptyface]

I saw the title, a HP desktop and just knew where it was going. Those machines aren't the worst systems out there, but that's only because of the existence of ultra cheap laptops (usually Atom/Celeron based) where the sparse RAM (usually 2GB) and storage (32GB, or 64GB if you're lucky of eMMC) are soldered on the mainboard with no upgrade path. But other than that, they are pretty dire. Still, 21 quid for the CPU, RAM, harddisk and cooler/fans isn't awful.

[@sadp1535]

To be honest I am surprised that PC like this actually exists. What the hell is this PC. They did put a laptop/desktop hybrid motherboard without PCIE but with full size ram with desktop T version CPU in a full mt case. Anyway, 1Tb of HDD +8GB of ram is good enough for this price but still very kind of strange PC. Well... its HP.

[@erikblomqvist8325]

Sounds like a great candidate for a NAS. The laptop hardware should keep the power consumption down and a single 1TB hard drive would cost you more than £21. Doesn’t sound like a mistake at all.

[@ddevin]

Oh God, I did a similar thing in the past. I bought a cheap, standard looking desktop with intentions of upgrading it for server-like tasks. Turns out, it was basically a laptop slapped into a desktop case. A single 4 gig SODIMM DDR3L stick, and a SOLDERED Intel Celeron. At least I made use of the ram though, by upgrading my laptop from 4 gigs to 6 gigs.

[@JuxZeil]

It's not a laptop mobo, it's just one of HP's lowest tier systems. Basically a laptop chipset and socket paired with a standard desktop(but probably extremely restricted) I/O and memory subsystem. I would just mod the case to take an ATX, or preferably, an SFX PSU, cut out extra holes and vents for fans, and use a cheap ITX/DTX(which the original looks like to me) mobo that you could get the CPU as cheap as possible to suit the socket. 👍

[@funkmetal]

Fraps and Afterburner didn't work in CS because of the new Trusted Mode, theres a launch command that should let them through

[@kopa_music]

CSGO had a recent update which disables programs to run and inject in CSGO (such as FPS counters), therefore you can enable developer console in the settings, open it and just type "net_graph 1" - this will give you stats such as tickrate, FPS, choke etc.

[@ryanolsen294]

I have a gaming pc but for fun lol I tried hitman on my i3 Intel HD 4000 laptop and about 7-20 FPS LOL. also do u know what Intel HD that is? Because I think the best one is UHD 630. One more thing, keep up with the cool videos

[@szabolcsmate5254]

What do you mean? Being made of laptop parts is a benefit not a disadvantage. They have amazing power efficiency. Not great for gaming, but excellent for light office stuff. Also, 8G of ram in a case for £21??? Are you mad? This is great!

[@testremote240]

I narrowly avoided buying something very much like this at a PC World store, only with actual laptop SODIMMs and a CPU soldered to the board. It was masquerading as a desktop and it might have fooled me had I not asked a (very helpful) sales assistant to open the side panel for me so I could check for expandability. He was as surprised as I was when we saw what was inside. There are a lot of these kinds of systems out there, so always do your research even when buying something that's "just for netflix". Also, you might be surprised at what you can get away with if you just ask nicely.

[@martintovar6666]

a friend purchased one of those computers at Walmart, it was cheap... no normal power supply, micro architecture motherboard an AMD Zacate CPU dual core soldered to the micro motherboard, no expansion slots of any kind, and 4GB of memory running windows 10... it was horrible to say the least

[@BboyADHD]

YEP! This happened to my brother. He bought a prebuilt at bestbuy or somewhere for $500. AND IT WAS A LAPTOP in a case. I told him countless times that I would have built him a far better one etc. He has now since learned his lesson and asks me for help now lol.

[@Ungabunga2015]

Hey! I had one of these as a kid! I got rid of it as soon as I really got into gaming on pc thankfully... I had the same ideas as you though until I opened it up and was significantly disappointed upon realizing there was no slot for a graphics card and figured upgrading it just wasn't worth it. I was able to play Halo CE (original) and Halo 2 on pc and some games like Zoo Tycoon and Roller Coaster Tycoon and other games that just played off a CD ROM. Good times...

[@joeyhillers9460]

HPs especially bad about putting small psus in their prebuilts. My main workstation from them only has a 180w psu, and limits my upgrade options pretty far. But, it's only around the size of an Xbox One original, so it's not all bad

[@millermonsterair]

making simple mistakes happens to the best of us. ive been doing PC stuff since 1993. i was 7yo at the time and thought computers were just so awesome and its one of the few things from my childhood that i can look back at and smile. well, about three years ago, i decided to upgrade a system i had for a while. it had a FX6300 in it. i wanted to do something cheap and decided to just put a FX8350 into it. well, i got the cpu new for $50usd. i SHOULD have just built a new AM4 system, but for some reason, i just didnt go that route. after a little while, i just decided to do a Ryzen 5 3600 system and i should have done that from the get go because i dont feel like i got what i paid for for that PC and the new fx8350 a couple years back...

[@Nick-dc1bu]

Lol I had that same computer as my first ever computer. During quarantine I’ve started to learn a lot more about PC’s and thought I would upgrade it, and when I opened up the side panel I felt the exact same disappointment. I’m getting rid of it as no one used it, but I did save the hard drive, fan, and DVD player so maybe this purchase wasn’t the worst mistake in the world if you also salvage those. Edit: I guess I had a slightly different model as mine had 4gb of Ram and a 500gb hard drive

[@alexferguson8893]

I have a HP computer in the exact same case with a itx board with a AMD A4 5000 in it, a 15w laptop cpu. Also powered by a laptop-like brick.

[@morantaylor]

You could always drill the rivets on the ATX PSU blanking plate, then use mATX board with a standard PSU to reuse the case....

[@tuxpowerpc]

You're not an idiot, you simply had the wool pulled over your eyes just like many other consumers have. Truthfully, in my opinion HP did this on purposely to mislead customers, and the eBay seller must not have done a good job describing what it was as they are hard to sell. HP came out several years ago with a 110 series just like that one, and I will tell you they had a history of burning up, so be aware of this. There was this large marketing sticker on the side that made the specs sound wonderful, just one issue, they never spoke of the cpu or the psu, big shocker there. It really was not even upgrade-able. They are not much better spec wise than a cheap netbook. Thanks for the honest video.

[@KenjiTech]

yeah, my friend michi got the same PC, and she hated it for always taking forever to do anything. the shitty CPU is one thing, but having windows 8 pre-installed on a slow 1.5 tb HDD sure did not help speeds at all. replacing the HDD with an SSD and running a light linux instead of windows would have helped a lot already but we wanted to make that computer be fun to use, not just "ok-ish" so i ripped the guts out of this case alltogether and drilled out those four riveted bolts that hold the cover for the PSU hole in place. then i put some A320 mainboard, an athlon 200GE and a proper PSU in there. ... unfortunately this was the last video i did in quite a while ... there was a followup planned but i'm just too busy and it just doesn't stop :-( the computer is working fine tho ...

[@pjimmbojimmbo1990]

As another KZbin Channeller said, "HP stands for Horrible Product". I have opened up a few HPs and found them to be assembled with some very cheap Mother Boards and Memory

[@MeowO_O]

Let's get the terms straight. It is NOT a laptop. It is a motherboard with unusual size somewhere between micro-ATX and ITX.

[@rended]

For future benchmarks with CS:GO: The new anti-cheat Valve has in place makes it (in my experience) difficult to monitor system components using programs that use an external overlay. That being said, you can still enable a frame counter from the Steam settings while using the steam client in order of Steam>Settings>In-Game located in the top left of the client window.

[@Durbanite2010]

It was quite a funny video and considering you paid £20 for it, it's not a financial flop. Not too shabby imo. There's some decent systems on CeX here in the UK for the budget-conscious, too.

[@georgejohnson7591]

At least you got the power supply with it, that would have been a bummer to have had to buy one of those too. It's obviously no use as a gaming PC, why not turn it into something else. A media server or a NAS box, something like that. It clearly works well enough within its capabilities.

[@emiplays4044]

If you want an fps counter to show up in csgo you need to enable the console in game options and then type cl_showfps 1 into the console

[@Badtaste21]

A few weeks ago I wanted to clean a fan in an old HP laptop and it turns out you have to disassemble the entire thing to even get there. I didn't want to take the time, so I used a vacuum cleaner and tried my best. It seems to have worked, at least it's cooler now, but it's still sad HP doesn't care about maintainability. Needless to say, I don't like HP. But I'm not a fan of especially these OEMs in general. They are part of the reason why we have so much e-waste and I despise this mentality.

[@Junkyard_Dawg]

For Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, just use the console command "cl_showfps 1" to show FPS. Most PC games have a console command to show FPS in the application itself, rather than relying on a third party application to measure it.

[@Aaron-iz3hk]

Most HP's, in my experience, have proprietary power supplies and connectors to the boards. I "cut my teeth" repairing OEMs. Dell was better than other's and easier to upgrade but they followed HP in recent years.

[@StalwartGamingFromYouTube]

I once had a pentium G2020 and to be honest it was one of the terrible processor to game on.... Currently using a used i5 3570 and everything is much better in terms of performance than what I used to get out of that old crap......

[@Agent47real]

“Hey mom can I buy something from eBay?” “Sure!” “This is wis-“ “Shut up and buy something”

[@gentarofourze]

To be fair, it may be a good pc for everyday use such as 1080p KZbin, and better than a laptop in that sense, even before the current situation in the world laptop prices would go from cheap one minute to expensive the next and I know people who just want something to word process and stream.

[@x_croner]

MAN! it look's like the sun catch you pretty good!

[@BM1620]

Appreciate your honesty, definitely an impulse buy, but hey things happen! You're knowledgeable enough to salvage the situation, like ya said it still wasn't a bad purchase for the HDD and RAM alone.

[@LOC-Ness]

I had a Compaq that was basically the same model but with an AMD apu and I opened it up t see if I could upgrade it only to find out the same thing you did. Now I don't trust half of all desktops from the big brands because of it.

[@randomplayer6461]

i did this mistake a while ago. i was thinking a 4 core pentium (J2900), 8gb of ram and a 1tb hdd was all good and i was just going to put a cheap gpu in it but nope it was one of these

[@MrChriss000]

Thats the major prob with those pc's, when the general public look at the specs and the box there is no warning its just lappy guts and not upgradeable. It is deliberate ploy to make people think its a bargain.

[@MrChris7582]

i did the same exact thing with hp but it was an amd a8 chip on a laptop mother board... it was a couple years ago. watch out for HP they do funny things that dont make sense.

[@sirkastic]

Will you also make a video about your mistake in being a Limey Brit and going out in the sun without sun-factor 5 million?

[@FrankieLujan]

I suggest leave the cpu in the motherboard, lower the ram, put it all in a sff case and sell it as a small office / browsing pc.

[@fatbeard8072]

dude, it was a steal almost. $27 American is a great find for that, no PSU, meh, just grab one out of another parts computer. I found a nice looking Dell Desktop at a Thrift store and bought it for $40, was only $30 but they are a thrift store that helps the less fortunate. No HDD but had the Ram and PSU and on board GPU. I added the HDD I had laying around, added a GPU and now it's my Emulation Station for old games, I use Linux as for it.

[@matg3802]

Should try some emulators on it. And one of the best ways to get smarter is to allow yourself to make mistakes and take the learning experience as a win👍

[@TheRedOwl]

For csgo you can write in the cmd of the game by typing in cl_showfps 1 or you can see what fps you have through steam overlay which has an fps counter in the steam settings for in-game in case some other programs don’t work with the game due to the anticheat hope this helps you for some future tests RGinHD! :3

[@MudSluggerBP]

Yeah I’ve got one of these sort of, a hp110 with an i3-3240T. Thankfully I checked before buying and was ok with the lack of expandability as I was just after a system to shove a 60gb ssd in and run Ubuntu for some cheap fairly quick web surfing 👍🏻. Added an extra 4gb of ram to the 4 it came with and got a fairly nippy machine for £25 😁

[@siemasz2492]

I would never buy a PC on Ebay without a photo of the case with an open panel.You can't even open a case with Ebay.

[@MadIIMike]

When I come across such things, I usually downgrade to 4GB Ram and sell it as power efficient multimedia/office PC, at least here in Germany some people dig the idea of low power consumption on PCs... meanwhile me using old Dual Xeon Servers and GPU like the GTX 680. PS: Kinda unrelated, but I recently came across the dumbest Error I've ever encountered. The PC would sometimes restart or lag out during windows installation and I went trough all sort of troubleshooting regarding ram and so on. Guess what the culprit was? The (working) Power LED connected as part of the front panel connector was on it's way out or had some cable damage I didn't notice. I just had to cut the wires and the PC kept working fine (I tested it without the front panel connector).

[@mehdisol7094]

if fps don't want to show up, there is always a fps counter in steam. you go the parameter, in game and fps counter ON

[@Dragonfire511]

My eyes decieved me at first because i read on that sticker "Intel Celeron"