I CRACKED THE CODE! / DEVON LARRATT VS LEVAN SAGINASHVILI PRONATION LIFT DIFFERENCE

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[@MRPmatt]

Very slight but very significant differences. Nice explanation

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

Thank you brotha ✌️💪

[@chrismatheson4729]

I have no doubt Levan can do it exactly like Devon and still beat his lift.

[@sebastiansullivan4770]

I really do tbH I think levan needs the momentum and the curled wrist to achieve it where Devon seems to use less momentum and bends his wrist back slightly. I do think Devon will win. We will see though.

[@chrismatheson4729]

@@sebastiansullivan4770 You should put a huge bet on Devon then, if you really think he is stronger than Levan.

[@Eagle_SFM]

Further down the forearm is harder ...

[@sebastiansullivan4770]

lol im not tht sure. just sure enough to make a prediction. are you bettng?@@chrismatheson4729

[@sebastiansullivan4770]

I'm not one for betting. Just a fan @@chrismatheson4729

[@NotBlackWolf]

Watching non arm wrestlers speculate about arm wrestling lifts in the comments on video's makes me physically cringe. These are two very different lifts, Levons lift is a compound movement using the entire chain of muscles so it's a lot of back, bicep, riser, and pronation. Devons is an isolated lift focusing almost entirely on the pronator.

[@user-pb7pr3di8m]

Funny. Tell me how Devon is focusing almost entirely his pronator with this lift.

[@AlSemz]

I had noticed the same thing, that Levan is using alot of body weight and compounding the lift. Devons is pure arm.

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

He's more defensive, while Levan is more on the offensive ✌️

[@levansaginashviliskidney8726]

Please make sense

[@Dontbeasissy]

perfect observation, 100% levan definitely looks like he is atleast exerting 35%+ backpressure in that lift while devon is atleast 95%+ pronation

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

Thanks my man!

[@user-pb7pr3di8m]

In the past the lift was called backpressure exercise. Pls explain to me how you can lift the weight up the floor with pronation thanks (other than merely rotating your hand inwards, which would then be a real PRONATION). I also think the discussions around this exercise are a distraction, because its not just this pronation lift, else why devon lost the last match. Devon could go some sort of "beautiful" strict world record in "pronation" (misnomer) lift. Yes when I watch Devon its looks very clean, but just because its clean doesnt mean anything to the strength at the table. Also Levan usually CURLS this weight with the strap from 70-90 kg with REPS. The "pronation lift" Is not really a pronation in the ROM sense but only keeping it intact while you MOVE (which is a lift) with BACKPRESSURE or shoulder or a whip or whatever the weight above the ground.

[@SixSickCigs]

No.

[@RockWeeder1975]

Levan looks like he’s using a lot more of his frame for the lift and Devon his arm 💪

[@jacobisaiballadareszelaya1984]

I have been saying that since levan did that lift for the firs time! Excellent video, thanks for put that out here in KZbin

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

Thanks man ✌️✌️

[@SanjayKumar-zr8yi]

Devon elbow is more closer to his foot acoting to levan

[@thedrew24]

KZbin algorithm boosting comment 💪 ... this is why it's so difficult to compare lifts, since it's so ez to have slight variations to change how much is lifted etc. some people can forget that. but whatever lol.

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

Happens to all of us ✌️

[@Dontbeasissy]

devons lift is really more of a DEFENSIVE pronation lift rather than offensive which what levans seems to be doing. So devon is doing exactly what he needs against levan while levan is doing what he has always done.

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

Seems to be the case ✌️

[@user-pb7pr3di8m]

Levan curls this weight for reps. 70-90 kgs. even in the past. nothing really changed. This hype only because because Devon does it a specific SQUAT position. ususally Levan does it on the rack or pulley system, with heavy weight. One year ago in the larry wheels video he did 88,5 kg "backpressure exercise" (this is what it was called in the past but we left the past and common sense and entered "hype area"). Also a further determinant is how big Levan is and how far he can spread his legs, many variables. I dont see the hype of the exercise especially as sole determinant of how a match should go. Levan understands this.

[@Futsunnuyshi]

NICE OBSERVATION MATE

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

Thanks man!

[@AKG58Z]

Yes your right Devon is engaging his pronator more and Levan is using back pressure.

[@erosruma4797]

100% wrong, 1 Levan slighty go in backpressure only because the rom ( the avainle space to movement) is not big because the pile of disk of weight are so tall that he need to do that, devon otherway start from lower point so he doesnt need space to move the weight, another important consideration Levan use tha same style of lifting of devon show in last engin video uploades early and he says devon puts the band too far from knucle and so too near to wrist, in this way the lift is more simple and uses way less the pronator...Last video of engin , in 21:40 min of video Levan say I do like devon refer of later video ( Levan interview part 2 ) where he say this

[@nickd.7267]

Ill be honest, to me it doesn't feel like it attacks my pronator that much. Granted I'm not Devon nor am I professional, but to me it feels like it just rests the weight on your wrist and you use your thumb as a hook, not relying entirely on turning your wrist and pronating. It just feels like it tugs on my thumb and palm and if I did completely let it go it would turn my palm up but not the same way as actually repping it with a turned palm versus starting the rep with a pronated hand.

[@Leland387]

I've been saying this since last year but all the Devon haters pled there case how it's the same if not harder. I've seen nobody duplicate devon

[@user-pb7pr3di8m]

Seems to me we entered some beauty contest. A distraction in my opinion. Its about table strength and winning rounds and not some "beautiful" or "strict" "pronation" lift.

[@andrewbell7579]

Spot ln observation.

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

Thank you brotha ✌️

[@JuanSantiago-nj7zh]

Devonshire lift is harder...but maybe he needs to start working his back pressure more

[@chrisdavidson2810]

This match will all come down to whether Devon can put a stop on Levan early enough to gas Levan. IF devon wins it will likely be first two rounds to Levan then Devon takes control from a gassed Levan. Levan has the strength, but devon has a lot of tricks up his sleeve, as long as he doesnt hurt himself again.

[@steverichard2786]

Look at the elbows Devons is way low down inside his leg. Levan's elbow is resting on his leg. What Devon is doing is much more difficult

[@-Erebus]

Damn I said something similar but the Devon haters are strong on engins channel.

[@pedrobile1382]

Stop dream your idol is nothing to Levan🤡🤕😂

[@JuanSantiago-nj7zh]

And we're his elbow is is way more of a pivot point

[@Fireboy123Llll]

The load is still on the pronator rather you use back pressure or shrug it. Anybody that actually does this lift will know Levan has a stronger pronator. Plus it is very difficult to put yourself in the same position as Devon. Levans body is very different from Devon

[@AlpnzAMV]

2 mechanical differences of the lift. First is since Levans wrist is slightly cupped in, its slightly easier on the pronation. Second is since Levan is curling the weight instead of just lifting it in the static angle by leaning his body back, Its much harder on backpressure than Devon's lift. Thats all.

[@AlpnzAMV]

Levans Lift: 110% backpressure + %90 pronation Devons lift: 100% backpressure + 110% pronation Compared to neutral grip and static rom.

[@AlpnzAMV]

Ah also, Since devon does the lift with strap being much lower on the wrist It is much easier lift on both pronation and backpressure about 10%. So conclusion is levans form is harder on backpressure and harder or equal for pronation.

[@alunrafferty5090]

..Look where the shoulders are placed on the lift...

[@sergiusergiu9454]

Devon is changed his lift making it easier, if you look at his lift 5 months ago the belt was over his back of his hand, now the belt is lower then his wrist almost at the half of hid forearm

[@sebastiansullivan4770]

I do believe that was to more closely emulate the feeling of armwrestling at the table. But regardless it may still make it easier

[@xorxor1667]

Here comes the pros👍

[@RockWeeder1975]

Levans lifts look much easier to do from my point of view.

[@lusmawanhartanto6238]

yeah iam soo agree.. at level monster levan , still have big problem to use full pronation like devon, maybe levan is not reliaze too he's using back pressure, like sometimes when someone doing devon pronation at high weight , lifting his feet to help raising the weight.

[@user-pb7pr3di8m]

What do you mean? Please explain to me how Devon can pull the weight about the ground without backpressure... some kind of whip (to get it of the ground) + backpressure (constant) + pronation form (constant) + angles (constant). this would be the perfect "pronation lift" (even though its a misnomer, because NOTHING pronates here), in the past it was called BACKPRESSURE EXERCISE, watch the Larry Wheels video. You could call it "hold everything constant while moving the weight above the ground with some "whip".

[@jocke8672]

​@@user-pb7pr3di8myou are everywhere and defend your Hero levan 🤣 its two different lifts. Take it and dont complain..

[@lusmawanhartanto6238]

@@user-pb7pr3di8m what need to explain, you can simulate by your self to that lift with light weight of course, main tension focussed at pronation forearms muslce, can you do that?

[@WatchWithMeYoutube]

What you talking about man you don't no what matters on table and difference in style 😂 Levan doesn't do open arm toprol or kings move like Devon. Devon nearly exploded his head from lifting 72kg 😂

[@WatchWithMeYoutube]

Levan haters cant take it that he did it better than Devon and stronger. He even pronated through at the end 😅

[@Bro_31394]

A small addition he even hammer curled partially after lifting it off the ground. Which is mind blowing.

[@EstArm]

The pronation is still the weakest link, how ever You do it imo :/ But yeah, the wrist bent is the key differents

[@yomel1924]

But the importance of this is that Levan didn't lose his wrist with that weigh and devon just can win if his wrist is stronger that his opponent

[@aspinaki]

absolute hawk eye.

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

🦅🦅🦅

[@riyandreams]

I commented in other videos, levan did a back pressure lift not pronation lift.

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

Did seem like it from what I did see, but Levans pronation was still intact throughout it none the less ✌️

[@user-pb7pr3di8m]

False dichotomy. there is no "pronation lift" (there isnt even a pronation happening). its all hype and distraction (except if you want to argue all day about some "strict " lift or whatever). In the past it was called "backpressure exercise". The only difference now is Devon doing it in a squat position..... Levan usually trains this backpressure exercises on his rack, standing or with the pulley system (every AW does). you can even PRONATE while doing it. Levan usually does REPS with 70-90kg, basically he holds everything constant (his pronation) and then CURLS it for REPS. Please tell me that Devon can do that.

[@joeglue]

These comments are so funny😂 clearly none of you armchair experts actually armwrestle or even attempt these goofy lifts other wise you wouldn’t all be out here imagining percentages and drawing fictional implications. You can’t do this lift without getting turned over unless you’re doing it through pronation. Stop it. The reason Devon’s is “better” is because he actually pulls that way.

[@hoyt_arms]

Dude I had never been so happy to read an educated comment in my life lmao then I was like "awl shit its Joe someone that I've pulled before who actually armwrestle.. " 🤣 I've been tryna tell people for the last day that if your pronation can't handle the weight the angle doesn'doesn't matter . Let's just say you do it the way Devon does it and your absolute max is 100lbs... .. you aren't gonna be able to go up in weight just cause you try it the angle Levan did lol . Idk how people aren't processing this lol

[@user-fn7sv3sd8u]

HULK...🇬🇪💯🇬🇪💯🇬🇪👍✊️💖

[@BanjoJo]

Devon is more strict form, whereas Levan is pivoting on his leg. I still don't think Devon is heavy or fat enough to take on Levan. Mass moves mass end of day

[@STUANX]

ce nest pas du tout le meme mouvement !! strictement rien a voir

[@Dmgolfer22]

Levans pronation actually dipped just a bit at the beginning of the lift. He got it back after all the drag, cupping and back pressure

[@josephmetts3085]

So devons lift is alot harder and especially considering how much he weighs compared to levan

[@Thiago_TT_MIA]

LEVAN Wins

[@jaegerschtulmann]

Yup, not the same lift at all. Levan's lift is significantly easier, he's using his biceps and back to lift the weight while resting his elbow on his leg using it as a lever. Yes his pronation is still intact though! (I suspect Devon will try his best to gas Levan's wrist on the set-ups with a 1000 restarts.)

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

Most likely. Good observed ✌️

[@khabeesschool9919]

Levan lift is harder i personally have tried them both😊

[@user-pb7pr3di8m]

We had the argument before the first match , "making Levan tired in the setup"

[@pedrobile1382]

Devon is nothing to Levan, all hype will gone in few minutes after the match begin🤡🤕😂, devon is clise the floor, Levan up a lot, better and stronger and he never did this stupid move before😂

[@ShOcKTeh]

this is all just cope because devon fanboys dont wanna accept that Levan is waaay stronger than devon in every metric

[@_DAKSH-ig3nm]

WHO TF ARE YOU TO JUDGE IF DEVON HIMSELF SAID LEVAN DID CLOSE TO PERFECT? MR NOBODY MILKING ANYTHING

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

Hopefully you got it out of your system, so you have a more relaxing evening ✌️

[@_DAKSH-ig3nm]

Sorry man I didn't knew you were a good person​extremely sorry for my comments I'm ashamed of my behaviour@@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision

[@_DAKSH-ig3nm]

​@@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevisionextremely sorry dude I didn't knew you were a good person I'm ashamed of my comments pls forgive me dude

[@vikingragner6333]

I'm tired of listening to this nonsense, you will see for yourself how Levan will crush Lorrat again

[@jocke8672]

If you are so sure that levan will crush Devon, why are you here and comment that you are tired of listening. If you are so sure that wouldnt bother you.

[@alexandersilva8565]

Your conclusion seems wrong to me

[@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision]

In what way? ✌️

[@alexandersilva8565]

@@SwedenArmwrestlingTelevision I mean the way Levan lifts is harder

[@jolteon1019]

Levan is using other strengths to lift the weight while Devon is fixing the lift on his pronation only

[@alexandersilva8565]

@@jolteon1019 no matter how hard Devon trains it won’t be enough to defeat Levan, maybe in the head of the fans yes but in reality NO.

[@KOVACHOT]

@@alexandersilva8565 no it isnt. literally watch the video 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@KlabauterManiac]

Levan's is harder even. People acting like this is some kind of Devon win 🤣

[@jolteon1019]

You don’t get it, when you do pronator lift without help from backpressure or other things, it’s the best form to show strength in pronation specifically

[@STUANX]

vous n avez aucune idée d un moment vectoriel et d un funiculaire , oubliez de construire un pont ;)) il s effondrera

[@KOVACHOT]

braindead

[@KlabauterManiac]

@@jolteon1019 My man if you dont use back pressure your arm will fall to the floor. You dont know what you are talking about.

[@jolteon1019]

@@KlabauterManiac Right, Devon also uses some backpressure. If we compare the videos, Levan is leaning backwards more, using more than Devon