I Defend Cannon Rush And He Asks Me To Leave

[@Rawkit_Surgeon]

I haven't played starcraft in years. I see that the old "failed cannon rush into void ray spam meta" is still on play.

[@135791max]

"Failed cannon rush, into void ray, into losing but asking your opponent to leave"

[@mixalis295]

I swear I would play more if I was playing only ZvT or ZvZ, when I was playing I got so used to protoss cheese that I rarely lost to it but I was so disguisted that even at masters you see shit like that it was lowkey one of the main reasons I stopped

[@Ollay245]

@@mixalis295 aggressive strats have and always will be a part of the game, and tbh cheese is usually the easiest match up - if you're masters then you're scouting well enough surely?

[@maxbooth179]

@@Ollay245 he said he rarely lost to it

[@Kioth7]

yeah that switch to void ray was fine but stalker build was dumb move

[@adaml8827]

Please leave the game so that I can continue to be matched with players who are better than me rather than lowering my mmr so that I am facing equivalent competition. It just makes no sense to me

[@PepsiMagt]

Cannonrushing your way up the ladder is already certain get you overmatched opposition.

[@tmarritt]

I'm LOW rank and absolutely hate it when you get a game and they quit immediately and up your MMR by a 100, totally screw me, I know I'm gonna have a really bad time for the next couple of games. I didn't earn that MMR and I'm just gonna get wrecked for the next 3 games minimum, why would anyone want that.

[@waseatenbyagrue]

No, it's fine. He will just ask them to leave too until he is GM.

[@temushin]

@@waseatenbyagrue Honestly I don't know why more pro players don't go with this strategy.

[@jasontaylor500]

@@tmarritt YOu could always leave your next game so that you lose 100 MMR if you really cared that much. =) My guess is that your just being sarcastic.

[@jonxor]

So good to see a zerg hold against protoss cheese. Nicely done!

[@Larez121]

Yeah! Totally agree!

[@RamesGamesLC]

its almost like it just takes some mechanics and skill to defend a decent cheese in a skill and reaction based RTS.

[@christophedehais]

The skill asymmetry in execution between the cheese and the defence is staggering though

[@DavidLee-frost]

He's banking on the 1 void ray and a dream strategy

[@Gossettc68]

Fuckin void rays...Like no one saw that comin a mile away...Literally every time I play against Toss.

[@Inko_Inko]

That strategy was revealed to him in a dream

[@Gossettc68]

@@Inko_Inko lol...I love facing the void gay toss'es...They might actually win against me queens...If they built archons =P

[@ThePeteriarchy]

"Your alt" lmao. It almost feels like a compliment when the accusations of smurfing come out. Nice job wiping the floor with em.

[@JotakRTS]

Lmao I played against this guy like two weeks ago. Also started the game saying "Jesus loves you" and then proceeded to proxy 4-rax me tvz. After I held he asked me to leave because I was "clearly smurfing"

[@kindlin]

That sounds basically identical. Sure it wasn't the same guy?

[@rara9333]

faithphobia is real in you my friend

[@coldfate1]

Something tells me he's not, like that's the joke.

[@Aiveq]

@@kindlin op literally said "this guy"

[@kindlin]

@@Aiveq Ah, correct. I guess I somehow read "guy like this" instead of "this guy like"

[@gsgaming6976]

Babysitting toddlers is actually probably the best metaphor I've ever heard for how you need to handle rts units.

[@MrDoubleIndemnity]

"hello I'm lame and I like to ask people to leave after my build fails" way to go. Nice hold ZG

[@ZombieGrub]

Cheers :D

[@cellobuddy251]

Big oof imagine cheesing, then failing cheese, then going into another cheese, and failing again, and then having the audacity to ask you to surrender lol

[@raystinger6261]

I was here almost yelling at the screen: "Dude, you're throwing away Void Rays? C'mon man, that's too pricey to just throw away in small attacks like these!".

[@nasrclips2757]

could have made it sound so much better saying " i accept ur surrender "

[@wompers7018]

The cheek, the nerve, the gall, the audacity and the gumption of this protoss. 나가!

[@sulevturnpuu5491]

he was random.

[@wompers7018]

@@sulevturnpuu5491 yes but that doesn't fit my anti-protoss narrative does it. 😝

[@thexalon]

I'm kind of curious how many times his "would you mind leaving" worked.

[@alexanderstuart7801]

We will rush... with our cannons! They will never expect us to use a defensive structure offensively! Sir... our cannon rush has been pushed back. Well... we shall attack with void rays! Our enemy will never expect us to attack from the air! Sir... our enemy has many queens. It appears they are well defended against air. Ah... well then, we shall fight until the last man!

[@BestPrezz]

"Ah well then, we ask him to surrender! They will never expect us to do this!"

[@ZombieGrub]

I enjoy this script.

[@javicoca]

Been watching vods of your casts for years now and I was very happy to see this video in my recommended. You've grown into a fantastic caster.

[@marcimarc203]

When the canon rusher has the audacity to ask for mercy. I would've flamed that guy into the ground.

[@chronowolf4734]

Polgara? Like the sorceress from The Belgariad? I loved that series! And it fits the zerg queen naming scheme, very nice.

[@trlavalley9909]

GG Quite cool looking over your shoulder, love how you just dismantled his base with the ravengers.

[@smotbutterman1127]

Ravaged their base

[@sherlockinsomniac]

The Ravengers! Earth's mightiest heroes!

[@DestinyOpfa]

Don't you mean WW?

[@DoctaHobo]

I havent saved a starcraft video in a couple years. But i felt your defense against cannon rush was an effective way to do it and a way i could learn to do it. Thank you for posting this.

[@waseatenbyagrue]

Also against protoss you can pre-emptively take your third as your second base. If they cannon that, you can just give it up and take your natural. The advantage of this is that the cannon rush does not impact you getting troops out of your main, so it is not a big deal if protoss is left with some cannons there after they take out the hatch.,

[@nates.9100]

@@waseatenbyagrue Big brain, I like this^

[@Kaboomnz]

its the standard way of defending a cannon rush although she should have had a drone following the probe, makes it harder for them to place buildings.

[@ColeBreez]

i love how your Kitty just relaxed after you defended the rush :)

[@BlueShellshock]

Oh, and he was *so close* to being promoted to masters. Poor guy, you really should have just conceded, his cannon rush was clearly mucho skilled and deserving of a free win.

[@DrDirtNips]

LoL stop messing around, if he did good, she did better.

[@dontthrow6064]

@@DrDirtNips sarcasm?

[@dontthrow6064]

sometimes we dont realize that we grow until our limit of incompetence (heard it before), had he actually reached masters, they would have cured him of cannon rush ideas

[@DrDirtNips]

@@dontthrow6064 well she won, so if he did good, she did better.

[@dontthrow6064]

@@DrDirtNips i recommend u read what sarcasm means and no, he didnt do well in any way canon rush is a cheap strategy to gamble ur mmr

[@jasonharter4876]

What a baby. Well played. I can't stand people like that.

[@danielvisky]

"Can't handle all these toddlers" is the funniest stuff I've ever heard

[@geessaess1707]

you madam handled it better than Artosis would have.

[@RyvenBrandon]

The Artosis Pylon spotted at 11:45 in the position of doorbell, bold move.

[@aeronight5871]

That was some nice defending! Kudos to you

[@J4Falpha]

That's hilarious... These cheesers would go to any lengths for the sweet victory 😂

[@kevinbegin3049]

asking for the win... the ultimate cheese!

[@Ormagon666]

lol she dealt with that cheeky cannon rush like it was a minor nuisance that got to hurt the ego

[@muhammadzinc5228]

I've always enjoyed your casting. Great work. Good player too.

[@ZombieGrub]

Thank you!

[@boneybone8123]

04:20 It's pretty amazing that cat in the background went back to sleep right after threat inside the expansion neutralized.

[@ZombieGrub]

He has a keen understanding of SC2

[@jarenford9088]

Cannon rush was not behind the mineral line which meant first cannon was out of range of the hatchery allowing it to finish and give her time to get static defense and zerglings out

[@robertv6628]

New to your channel and I'm here to stay subscribed

[@ZombieGrub]

Thanks!

[@ralusek]

Nice vid. You're the best caster, IMHO, always very insightful. Most other casters seem to just be pulling stuff out of their ass.

[@RamesGamesLC]

have you watched any professional casters? smh

[@ChristopherCubbage]

@@RamesGamesLC been watching since HOTS came out, she is one of the best, alot of the older ones sound very washed out these days

[@lz4737]

Hahaha. This reminds me of a game in which SOS was using Stats' account and got cannon rushed, SOS initially told Stats not to worry but then ended up losing. SOS had to ask his opponent to leave so that Stats can keep his mmr. Stats was rofl in the background. It was hilarious.

[@CallofDutyBlackOps28]

the person reacting with "ty" to "Yes i do mind" really doesn't seem to understand that this is going to "sorry, i'm not leaving"

[@maxpower7113]

My favorite was defending an all-in rush in Command and Conquer that was considered best strategy only to be called a noob f***t and ragequit.

[@sample_sam9045]

jesus was a cannon rusher 😇

[@ezet]

So that's why he got crucified

[@deepvoid2871]

@@ezet by the queens!

[@zergling1562]

He got zergling rushed.

[@e.clipperton4052]

If it's good enough for jesus...it's probably not good enough for ZG, frankly

[@jonsolo32]

Jesus played with horrible lag. Took three days to respawn.

[@gordonggrey6548]

This is so important. I’m so glad I saw this video.

[@Overgis4058]

This type of shit is why i play agaist either AI or friends. I can get good without dealing with the frustration of cannon rushes, proxy everything, and zergs doing poor imitations of the german taxi.

[@matthewirizarry8467]

All these years later and protosses are still cannon rushing.

[@victorsoto4821]

Somethings never change.

[@TristanOnGoogle]

Like Vibe says : dont pull drones when canon rush is already set up, just build 3 spines and attack with other units when the 3 spines burrow right next to cannons.

[@kurt7937]

Is this the official strat?? I’ve just been canceling my natural, 2nd gas, roach, insta lair, hidden hydra, insta win cuz they’re all so bad they go voidray 100% of the time in Diamond. But ig their real mmr is probably high gold, so.

[@MrRufnek]

Wow! First time seeing ZombieGrub. Wow! I wish I had those skills. People that are good at StarCraft are from another planet. Real humans can't do this. I can't.

[@RossRadikSherman]

It took me 10 years of playing SC2 to get to masters. I was still at gold with about 25 apm 3 years in. I slowly worked that up to an average 120 apm. I'm slightly over 150 when I'm try harding. Top players average over 300 apm.

[@handsomemonkey9852]

Is that a legit thing? Trying to get wins by getting the other person to leave? TIL. That queen walk was sick, too bad you didnt need the nydus. Great pressure, great game!

[@lickenchicken143]

...legal? yes. Moral? no. legitimate?... no. Bad strats are bad. Bad strats that work are in the meta.

[@SystemUpdate310]

I think the rational behind this move was, that he thought ZG is a smurfing GM, that's why he was implying that it's an alt. If that would be the case, asking a smurfing GM not to rob your points is somewhat more understandable.

[@Gwydion_Wolf]

@@SystemUpdate310 on the other hand... doing cheeze plays like that tends to be something you'd see in a GM match itself. So if he's complaining that he thinks a GM is on an Alt, who succesfully defended against a cheese strat you'd see used in a GM match.. then he's someone trying to 'act' like a GM himself. Now if she had obliterated a full on, true, attack with ease.. then i could see him giving that line. But not when its a case of him trying to use a cheese play for a easy win only to be blocked.

[@daellymnaidel942]

Great hold imo... about 6000% better than my holds.

[@Naim_less]

I'm not sure why this was recommended to me, but I watched the whole thing. Your APM gave me an absolute nosebleed. Maybe this is why I play slower/turn-based Strategy games. You're clearly very good! I do love me some Zerg!!

[@gcl2783]

Came here to see cheese get eaten, and got the bonus keyboard layout information!

[@natecw4164]

I've never seen someone ask that in a losing position lol

[@ZombieGrub]

Amazing right?

[@alimoorad5998]

Well plaaayyyyedddd! I dont know how y'all play so calmy in such high pressure situations. I would feel overwhelmed and just call it quits.

[@beedwarf]

When I used to play Starcraft II online (10 years ago); those kinds of encounters are very common. When you play enough sessions and are confident in your abilities to deal with those kinds of encounters; you simply treat the opponent as if you were playing against the A.I.

[@ozijak]

What a badmannered way to end. Glad you held and thwapped them!

[@marcomarin1196]

So cool, I hardly pull that many drones and go too early into roaches against cannon rush. Will limit to Drones, Lings and Spines from now on.

[@baula338]

10:40 "queen walk" amazing

[@Vintagedad]

You handled that really well. Even had back up ready

[@sherabaghera]

please remember to spawn more overlords

[@Carrotsalesman]

Lol, she refrained from saying "Wee Wee" then drops an F-bomb a minute later! Not a criticism, it's classic, loved it haha

[@thezzach]

12:30 (spots Overseer) Hello… (Then seeing this jerk stubbornly not GG’ing) What is going to happen here? 😆🙌 Wow I’m so impressed with ZG’s calm demeanor and brilliant gameplay. I need lessons in both.

[@jdspencer60]

Polgara - awesome name choice. David and Leigh Eddings rock

[@petar.stoyanov]

I had to google to confirm if that's the way this character's name is written in English... Man, haven't read these in a long, long time...

[@conradvonbruno2917]

"you're not going to leave? Whatttt??"

[@SHIBBYiPANDA]

You rock, Zombie!

[@KeppyKep]

Ah the good old Voidray Overcharge vs Queens and Lings. Love it

[@gene_Code]

I like how calm u are handling that cannon rush. I'd give up

[@ncavis]

Bad ass defense against a CRush!

[@MrBlorp-sf9ye]

I was so happy seeing that cheese get defended against Cathartic

[@y2kplus9]

Lmfao, the audacity of that guy to ask for a mercy win after a failed cannon rush AND accusing you of smurfing in the same chat log. Just, wow. There really is no helping some people. Well played defense and counter! Very well done.

[@KaliFortuna]

I keep coming back to this video for the perfect thumbnail 😂

[@DavidMyrmidon]

What was with the Heavy Void ray commitment? What a dum-dum..

[@LiezAllLiez]

"EZ clap", as the kids say these days.

[@gabriel.hongkong]

The dude lost one too many void rays

[@Ornal64]

KZbin bring me here. Love to watch SC2 matches.

[@Komlaa]

That person had no shame xD

[@Zemium1994]

cheese so stinky that you want to leave but you didnt lool

[@tiaanmunnik]

*hears chiptune music in background* Oh, dang! *Follows on Twitch*

[@Vindicator7777]

Played out of your MIND. Vwp.

[@Purkinje90]

Calling the lings toddlers is hilarious

[@Fenrir6Gaming]

I have no idea what just happened but, good for you! kick some ass lol

[@puck10114]

I like how you did not exxagerate on spine crawlers against the rush

[@michaelhinkson6038]

At least he was nice about his whining. That's a welcome change.

[@ldn_rumrunner]

I somehow only came across your channel now. It's refreshing to see a woman cast SC2. Also GG!

[@2bussy]

What does that have to do with literally anything? You know that people are more than just their sex or skin color, right? Treat her equally and with respect instead of saying some dumb cringy redditor bullshit.

[@PandaRizzArg]

great game ! great defence! u were so chill at the cannonrush, its cool to watch

[@virajkhatri7574]

well she did call him a toddler, which isn't that chill. A real chill person would say absolutely nothing at all. She's still more chill than the average.

[@ZombieGrub]

I didn't call my opponent a toddler. I assume you're talking about the beginning when I said "I can't hold all these toddlers"? That was about my lings/spines/queens/drones constantly moving. They were like toddlers trying to touch a hot stove (the cannons).

[@stevendeherrera2240]

@@ZombieGrub I love your humor! the toddler comment had me rolling 🤣

[@libertequeliberteque3521]

@@virajkhatri7574 Time to say sorry to the lady lol

[@virajkhatri7574]

@@ZombieGrub oh, then I take it back lol

[@rommel_e_romero_alva]

This was nice to see

[@Centipede1600]

That was extremely smooth game play by you.

[@ZombieGrub]

Thanks!

[@grays13371]

fair play.

[@stewartcole8879]

in thier head 'ive been beaten? must be an alt' theres always gotta be some excuse, instead of just learning from the match and understanding your mistakes, or just being plainly outplayed

[@brendonnel6631]

1st rule of defending any rush as zerg, keep calm.

[@Wilde_Wolfe]

Wow Nice explaination of GG!

[@ZombieGrub]

Thanks! 😁

[@AlmightStick]

Ya know, kinda a compliment to have some one think your main is an alt... I think...

[@jiayojames]

These must be the same people that buy boosted accounts. I really can't understand the appeal of wanting a higher rating than your actual level. Like really what do they gain out of it except a painful ride back down?

[@layrad]

Zerg sounds really just be Pokemon sounds 😂

[@QcSnowboard]

I was about to reinstall sc2 but I changed my mind real quick after watching this.

[@rsanghi24]

Eh, I didn't knew zg had a yt channel and first video i found out was a justice cheese defense, nice.

[@Nekhesh]

Very neat def

[@ThunderChanter]

Jesus loves you, and if you love Jesus youll please leave the game please I need the mmr please leave

[@JacobHedricklolwut]

Jesus loves you and he has placed a cannon in your natural

[@VoyivodaFTW1]

not entirely sure what they were expecting lol.

[@mysteriousgamer]

Good micro to stop the cannon rush

[@danielchen3545]

ZG do you play on NA? Feel like I've ran into you before

[@remeokits]

Play to the bitter end too

[@terenceroberts9495]

Comment to pay respect for the Eddings reference. Polgara takes no shit from anyone.

[@panchine2]

i'm new to starcraft and I can't a single thing of this game but I enjoyed this video :D

[@itsbiju]

Great job! SC2 is still my favorite game.

[@AudreyandmeAu]

Nice one! Great content

[@-Smalltime-]

BenImmortal builds zero immortals. No wonder he lost