I Didn't Expect This -Toyota GR86 vs Mazda Miata vs THE Underdog Drag Race Quarter Mile Drag Race!

What's Quicker in a quarter mile drag race? Is it the new 2022 Mazda Miata MX-5 or the brand new 2022 Toyota GR86 or the Underdog?
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#Miata #GR86 #Mini

[@dalejones4322]

You couldn't have made this video anymore fun to watch. All the guys were so funny, I laughed several times. The race alone would have been enough but you guys make it so enjoyable. I'm not sure the editors get enough credit. All the effects they do amaze me. Thanks guys. I love this new series

[@9663mu]

Guys big ups to securing this 1/4 mile track. This was a big step in my option. Seems like you guys have everything from towing or off roading to acceleration all covered. Fantastic stuff

[@plymcousa3002]

Aren’t you at elevation? The EV has a massive advantage. Both Miata and 86 typically put up better numbers than achieved here.

[@sdz9850]

Plus, it is a hot hatch, not a sports car.🤔

[@ytsux9259]

EVs would have an advantage everywhere because they are EV. LOL

[@plymcousa3002]

@@ytsux9259 some maybe. The two ice cars in this video would be about 2 seconds faster in the quarter mile at sea level. Where the EV would be the same speed.

[@braetonwilson4296]

Sure the EV is faster but it's such a snooze to drive. I would much rather drive the RWD well balanced Miata or GR86 anyday!

[@plymcousa3002]

@@braetonwilson4296 the mini would not actually be faster at sea level. But yes rwd is best wheel drive.

[@tomokokishi3066]

I can guarantee this is the only place you can see this trio doing the drag race😂

[@nats50]

You can have your 1-2 car lengths, I would still take the Miata that gives many "smiles" to the gallon!

[@jansonb482]

I just wished I would fit in it

[@jsboening]

Miata Is Always The Answer.

[@mrtboy]

I have the RF but certainly wouldn’t turn down the opportunity to play with the 86

[@maximlg253]

I wish Miata could accommodate taller drivers a little better. A couple more inches of legroom and one inch of headroom would expand client base. GR86 is very roomy in comparison. And still extremely fun

[@JC-lk3oy]

@@jsboening unless you don't fit 😞

[@KLsuperspeed]

You guys generally do a good job of referencing elevation. Both the Miata and 86 would have a significant advantage where the majority of us live.

[@Spider-Man-sl6mi]

Mini dog walked them slow ass cars

[@buildmorefarms1007]

just keep telling yourself that

[@pixelgaming0074]

Well just keep in mind they are all slow cars. Lol. If it takes two the slowest cars for a Mini to look fast you know it’s not..And I own a Mini. Lol

[@briankennedy7862]

What a great video… so FUN!!!! I liked the ghost decal Tommy 😀

[@fourtwenty5986]

It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning

[@boost331]

Elevation kills you guys. That GR86 can get to 60 under six seconds and a 1\4 mile in 13.9 when not breathing mile high thin air.

[@joeKisonue]

Yup sea level is the place to give them a great test

[@-Jethro-]

Millions of people live well above sea level. I actually like seeing how well or poorly vehicles do at higher elevations.

[@boost331]

@@-Jethro- Any attempt at owning a performance vehicle at altitude needs to include forced induction. The performance they achieved with this sports car can be beaten by a 1.5L civic.

[@alexnutcasio936]

Have never seen a stock GR run 13.9. Never.

[@MrShikfootball]

yeah the gr doesnt run 13.9 it runs 14s from factory

[@The_HugoNout]

I just have to know - which is why I posted this on both videos. Exactly I want to see the soft top (club) result. I would like to see how much closer to the 86 it gets. I’m really hoping the Miata is faster or equal.

[@060racing8]

I highly doubt the mini ev could complete 5 laps of a circuit without overheating the battery and cutting power you don't get much slower than a DNF

[@buildmorefarms1007]

99% of people don't track these cars, we'll use them to drive in our daily lives. It's clear that the mini cleaned house

[@billisdewillis5]

@buildmorefarms100 - don’t believe you know the people that buy the RWD cars…

[@buildmorefarms1007]

@@billisdewillis5 My comment was about the Mini EV, not the rwd cars.

[@automachinehead]

@@buildmorefarms1007 well in central US our daily drive consists of an average of 40 miles a day

[@SevansVII]

Which one puts the top down quickest? There's your answer.

[@e46teddy]

as a owner of mini se i would really love to see if its tyre selection could make a even better time

[@LafemmebearMusic]

Ok but the slow motion Nathan sequence 😂😂😂👌🏾🤌🏾

[@MR.X-C]

I really like this idea however when I look at these cars for track I always find myself looking at both the i4 Mustang and Camaro. You obviously get a hp and torque advantage for the same money and they’ve come a long way on the track as well. I’d love to see that video.

[@mohamedraafat5676]

So i was forwarded this video by a friend saying they found my doppleganger. I watched the video and it seems like nathan is identical to me not just in the way he looks but also how he talks, moves, and we even have the same facial expressions. I always hated the way i looked on video but honestly nathan is awesome and he helped my love myself way more. I just wanna say Nathan it's awesome that we're nearly identical and please keep being yourself and doing you the way you want. Also i am a huge car guy and i used to even be an automotive journalist tho never on video, definitely subbing now.

[@thehumungus1985]

Great series, glad you guys were able to get your hands on a 1/4 mile strip, perhaps some top speed testing? Beat up on some hoopties would be a blast!

[@timsisco3742]

Roman you missed an opportunity at the end when talking about trap speed. All you had to do was mention that if this any longer I would have won. That's what having the best trap speed is important. But Tommy is still right, the most important thing is winning the race at hand.

[@ImUrOBGYN]

It also points out his terrible 60ft in the GR86. He needs to improve his launches.

[@kerney3043]

We looked at the electric Mini for about 10 minutes, before killing it off as an option. Really 110 miles of range is like a gas powered car coming with 3.5 gallon gas tank. It's basically an extended range golf cart.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

and yet somehow it destroy these two sports cars

[@richardhoulton4016]

@@buildmorefarms1007 At 5000ft. Do it a sea level and watch the result reversed

[@buildmorefarms1007]

@@richardhoulton4016 says you..but no proof.

[@richardhoulton4016]

@@buildmorefarms1007 They are at over 5,000ft. As expected, the numbers for the ICE cars are severely effected by being at that altitude. At sea level, both cars are about 2 seconds faster than the numbers recorded here (there are a bunch of 1/4 mile tests out there…Google them…mid 14s is normal). EV’s don’t burn oxygen and are unaffected by altitude. So the Mini was at a definite advantage here (certainly not the underdog). At sea level, the Mini would run the same mid-15s 1/4 mile and the the other two would be a second or more quicker than that.

[@automachinehead]

didn't you know that EV is the new iPhone? it's practically just fashion statement for the wealthy and quirky liberal forward thinkers nowadays. it's nowhere near as useful and purposeful than the conventional ICE. all those harmful batteries will be dumped into the ocean because India, China and South Africa ain't going to recycle that crap.

[@Torsee]

Buy either of the Red cars, you’ll love em! Avoid like the plague the BMW.

[@jasonmcgee685]

Who is the new flagger???

[@AmericanDuck]

Consider the weight of the driver in that MX-5.

[@LowsJuan]

I always get a chuckle about pricing on mini outside of the US these things are massively expensive. The difference between the gr86 and the mini is $12k with no options here. (mx-5 historically is not cheap) Plus there is the fact the mini is a BMW so lots of expensive plastic parts that degrade quickly and the Mazda and Toyota are in a different league of reliability. The upside is the mini you can driver in snow as long as it is not too deep and not that cold out as ev's hate cold.

[@codyedsall9459]

Should have tested against the "Club Convertible" or even one with the Brembo + BBS package. You picked the heaviest version of the car.

[@chuckersw]

Mazda might have the prettiest red ever! JS

[@Nickoboss29]

It's called Soul Red Crystal

[@barrybarry8564]

Yeah it's funny that a color you can get on a mazda SUV is waaaay better than anything you can get on a new C8 corvette haha

[@mikecarmean1676]

1/4 Mile is the way to go!

[@feedrate1]

it's so much better you guys found a better track. 🤘🤘🤘

[@frederickbrown8154]

Why race heavier RF And not the regular convertible MX-5?

[@SiCrewe]

Next up: a 300 mile cross-country race and the Mini loses by, erm, 6 hours. 😂

[@alexkarout1586]

while we are making up arbitrary rules to make the Mini look bad, why not have the cars race on rainbow road to the moon

[@TheSpadre]

I'm sure that Tommy is good for the channel, but I disagree with him every time there is an EV involved. How far will the Cooper go vs the other two? It would also be good to see it on the track vs the GR 86.

[@P3DROCARNITAS]

The SE is such a fun car to drive...

[@al90vette]

Roll race?

[@lucianolucidi1]

The Mx5 is the best looking and not only looking of the 3. A real well made diamond

[@CSLFiero]

of all the fwd sporty things, the mini is probably the only one interesting enough to be on a shortlist with a miata and brz

[@buildmorefarms1007]

veloster N would beat all 3 easily. it's fwd.

[@Lobo_Argent]

I love when they test a car’s 0-60 with both of them in it… Like, why?

[@patrickgowar2234]

Great test. Although I’m a Toyota fan, I’ll take the Mazda thanks

[@buildmorefarms1007]

The Mini will show you its tail lights!

[@heroictesticles6870]

@@buildmorefarms1007 Only on boring straight roads. The Mazda shines in the twisties, that is the entire point of it and why people love the car, not because of its straight line speed.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

@@heroictesticles6870 The Mini handles great, have you ever driven one? It is good. Miata leans a lot, they are know for built in lean...

[@heroictesticles6870]

@@buildmorefarms1007 The 'mini' is heavy with a high center of gravity and front wheel drive. My RF doesn't lean a lot straight out of the factory. Came with bilstein dampers.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

@@heroictesticles6870 RF=roof folds..lol

[@Dark_Vader888]

The Mini rated 114 mile range means 80 miles in cold weather. This doesnt make any sense on a Mini S model since you'll be blasting around in it. The Mini would be ok for my daily work commute but unusable on the weekends where we regularily drive 50-100 miles taking the dogs to hike.

[@ZFerfer]

Should have put the heavy dude in the mini

[@sr71blackbirddr]

The ND a 6 year old platform VS two brand new cars. Plus the guy in the mini is 100lbs lighter

[@TyinAlaska]

I'm confused. Which one is the underdog? They're both underpowered and lumpy.

[@djnoahbeats]

Since the 86 finished at a higher mph and has a better top speed, it wins a longer race. Even more advantage of there are curves.

[@Kai240i]

At sea level, both miata and gr86 will take the ev mini quite easy.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

Except that they lost quite easily.

[@richardhoulton4016]

@@buildmorefarms1007 At 5300 ft

[@Nishan113]

@@richardhoulton4016 still lost

[@richardhoulton4016]

@@Nishan113Do it at sea level where most of us live.

[@wolfhorsky]

My friend had less than 15s in his mx-5 rf

[@Not_Sure_]

You should do half a mile race.

[@aeronYTco]

Why compare ICE cars vs EV? Why not compare the 2 vs an ICE MINI?

[@wzDH106]

Why?

[@dielaughing73]

Why not?

[@aeronYTco]

@@dielaughing73 Compare apples to apples, oranges to oranges.

[@dielaughing73]

@@aeronYTco so you're not interested in how two different cars perform? Seems like a pointless distinction.

[@aeronYTco]

@@dielaughing73 Of course I am. Just saying that why compare 2 ICE cars to a MINI EV if there’s an ICE MINI. Better if they bring in another ICE MINI and do the comparison. GR86, MX-5, MINI EV, and ICE MINI. No more excuses.

[@richardg.jewell5202]

Some testers have measured the Mini electric at 6.1 seconds to 60, so this result is little surprise.

[@richardhoulton4016]

Not at 5000ft. Air density doesn’t impact EVs

[@AndresSalazarAutos]

Both the Miata and the GR86 should be faster than the Mini at sea level I guess, at elevation the electric car has the advantage

[@keithnewton8981]

Why not use the 1.5 turbo mx5

[@richardhoulton4016]

Because there’s no such thing

[@niveketihw1897]

ND Miata is more in need of lowering and wheel spacers than most sporty cars I've ever seen.

[@simonhurlimann908]

Actually dragracing Miatas or Toyobarus is a bit like taking your Hellcat to a curvy Mountainroad - simply the wrong discipline 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@martinvalencia6141]

Sad part is niether one of these rwd sub 240 whp cars are worth anymore than 25k. The dealers selling them at a markup deserve to go out of businesses

[@psewgobind]

I'm consider GR86 for my next car. Interestingly, my current (base 10th Civic 6mt) had the exact same 2.85sec to 60ft (pathetic), so GR86 1000ft mark would be a very accurate comparison to my Civic. Mine's 0.63sec slower to a 1000ft. Huge for drag racing, but not so huge if it's costing me extra $30k to get GR86. I'm going to have to see how well GR86 does at the local racetrack (TMP). But, I suspect it'll be similar to the old BRZ/86 that are tuned, Which is similar to my Civic... I love the way GR86 feels and drive, but also love the way my Civic feels and drives... I'm thinking I'll have to wait for the Type-R.

[@maddog2279]

MX5 should be the soft top

[@hornet224]

Advantage: Tommy is carrying less weight.

[@robertebob3596]

Mazda was last but would still be my first choice.

[@richardhoulton4016]

Do it at Sea Level. Those are terrible numbers for the Mazda and the Toybaru and EVs aren’t impacted by air density at altitude. They’d beat the Mini at sea level.

[@benhaze1010]

Mini would be last at sea level :)

[@jimmyjames8736]

No need to fear. Underdog is here.

[@eyes2338]

The more electronics it has the more chances for it to break down.

[@vinnymarchegiano]

I haven't driven the new 86, but those two petrol cars are extremely boring to drive around town. However, the 86 is a pretty car.

[@sciontc9240]

You saw more the face expressions than the actual race

[@mcwendel8066]

The Miata is catching up? Comes in last 🤣

[@jimgessner6071]

The problem with the Mini is the Mini. If you drive it, you have to be seen in it.

[@BlackkWaterr]

8k markup for the GR where im at 😩

[@simonhurlimann908]

Drag racing a Miata or GR86 is a bit like trying to fly a ship… why the hell don’t you compare them on twisty roads?

[@maximlg253]

I love my Tesla. But... these guys are at elevation where nobody lives. At sea level both ICE cars would have significantly more power and EV would be a bit slower (compared to itself at elevation) due to aid density. Mini could have lost at normal elevations

[@scottgas1299]

Leave it to "green technology" to make a Mini that weighs over 3100 lbs. Keep it

[@Jv19979]

Try the fiat spider

[@anwaarsamai]

The old 86 had a better exterior🥲

[@iQuattro1]

But the new one performs way way better

[@cristopherflores6195]

Why is no one drifting in it yet?!?!?

[@robertcurtis3807]

I’m disappointed in the BR-Z/GR-86. Not a fan of the boxer Engine from Subaru. No Sunroof or convertible options. I can get a new Nissan 400Z for just a little more which is a twin turbo V6. The MX-5/Miata is a beautiful ride, and lovely curves and an amazing red color. At least they offer a convertible. But still lacks power and torque.

[@youngblood23rb]

Looks like the Miata has a lift kit

[@Henry-sj1kl]

Height and weight? If you own a Miata 🙏

[@DownshiftPass]

The additional power the new GR86 has really made this car what it needed to be!! One of my favorite drives of 2022 so far! Not fast by any means but it is FUN!!!

[@CCourter16]

I would imagine a similar result even with an ice Mini Cooper s? I’d take the mini or mx5, the gr86 attracts too much of the boy racer crowd for me.

[@patrickbateman7122]

Boy racer? This ain't no hot hatch but proper sports car. They're rare as hell on the roads by me as your average joe is too lazy to have to work a proper drivers car..

[@CCourter16]

@@patrickbateman7122 every GR86 I see is modified. Louder exhaust, lowered, anime stickers, revving at stop lights, etc. Nothing wrong with that, just not my scene, still respect the car!

[@patrickbateman7122]

@@CCourter16 oh well then i see where you're coming from then as that is bad. Here in UK brz and gt86 are very rare..

[@zefram47]

Nah…at our elevation here in Colorado the EV MINI is quicker than the ICE.

[@ytsux9259]

Wrong! Gas Cooper S is much slower.

[@Ryu.86]

GR86 any day~ Can't wait to see crazy builds for it too

[@dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697]

I cannot for the life of me imagine anyone who wants a small sports car would even look twice at that disgusting massive e-mini.

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Nathan car can’t move with so much fatty cells

[@johnwjeromejr]

EVs are less affected by altitude.

[@kennedywrightt]

shouldve been the corolla hatch

[@IdFightMyDad]

What's the elevation? 16 seconds is slow for that Miata.

[@richardhoulton4016]

5300ft. The Mini would lose to both cars at sea level

[@Ripperx121]

Did he say 114 mile range on the Mini? That's really bad if he did I couldn't use that to goto work. That's a hard sell. EV's are a long way off.

[@Soh90]

Extend the race another 1/4 Mike and the GR86 takes both the Mini and MX-5 to gapplebees

[@buildmorefarms1007]

the trouble is there is no half mile racing metric. people test 0 to 60 and quarter mile

[@automachinehead]

that's no longer a race you fool that's a marathon

[@TheDodgeboy87]

I’ll Take the 86 any day over that freakin ev

[@buildmorefarms1007]

then you will be looking at its tail lights

[@zac7079]

The mini wouldn’t win at sea level

[@the___truth8038]

🙄🫣

[@autoevolutionhr]

Special Olympics

[@FrankySilverFace]

Manuals are funner not faster.

[@Tware8100]

Miata: slowest, priciest, and still the best. Smiles per mile is what the Miata is measured in.

[@maxcactus7]

Very true, and very likely the most reliable and durable overall. The MX5 also gets much better fuel economy. The video was fun to watch, but pointless at the fun in driving all these cars in on winding, twisty roads vs. straight line acceleration. And the MX5 is still the only convertible. I'll take it every day over the GR86 and wouldn't even look at the Mini.

[@iheartgs400]

No denying that but for practically and DD there’s nothing out there that matches the Twins.

[@markymark3071]

If being the slowest and priciest don't matter, check out the prius. You're smile will be up to your ears lol

[@Tware8100]

@@markymark3071 I haven't ever driven a Prius, but I'm not opposed to it. I like the Prius Prime, I think that's what it's called. It looks nice.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

it's amazing how slow the Miata is considering how light it is

[@stephen3164]

As a current NA owner and previous BRZ owner, I’m watching that Mini EV thinking “hmm…”. Honestly, as an EV I guess I was expecting a lot more - not Tesla Plaid fast, but “faster than a Miata in a drag race” is pretty weak bragging rights. Then to hear the low range and low top speed… yeah, not the car for me. EV hot hatch for $30k sounds good otherwise.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

how often do you drive over 100 miles an hour?

[@automachinehead]

@@buildmorefarms1007 a lot in arkansas

[@buildmorefarms1007]

@@automachinehead you should slow down, im sure someone loves you and wants you to come home safe...plus others around you dont want to die.

[@automachinehead]

@@buildmorefarms1007 a lot means not all the time. need to catch up with all the large pick up trucks here

[@speterbilt]

That rf is sweet

[@pepelapew2724]

You guys are funny.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

Nathan and Roman you guys are some of the worst manual transmission drivers ever in the history of automobiles. However it was a very fun video to watch

[@thecamdenyard]

No Ike Gauntlet??? 😂

[@alexnutcasio936]

So, Miata is NOT always the answer. Particularly in a drag race. Certainly not against the Mini nor the GR. The Miata has always been underpowered.

[@Dreznin]

Yeah, but most of us also know that anyone deciding upon if they want a Miata (or GR86/BRZ) based on 1/4 mile times is not the target audience.

[@automachinehead]

good enough for my wife but not for me. V8 is the bare minimum for me to enjoy the road

[@patricksprojects]

My 5000$ 94 integra w a b20 swap makes owners of all these new cars sad haha.. eats mini coops s daily.

[@AngryAnon]

Shoulda had the softop Club ND for the comparison

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

A drag race between minivans would be more exciting…and probably faster.

[@shivamarya5225]

Yet minivans are as fun to drive as... well minivans, they can only beat these cars in a drag race and practicality

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

@@shivamarya5225 yet they sill faster 😂

[@shivamarya5225]

@@josephwhiskeybealedoes that even matter, you're still driving a minivan and not a rwd coupe

[@r2ba435]

Car and driver got 5.4 0-60 in the Toyota and 14.1 in the quarter I don’t think there’s a stock minivan on the market that has posted those times

[@tonychau1983]

@@r2ba435 pilot is pretty close but it won't even be close in the fun department

[@leezep9794]

It only goes 114 miles on a single charge lol oOo the EV craze is hilarious!

[@anthonyc1883]

And there are many vehicles that go much, much further on a charge and suit the driving needs of countless drivers just fine.

[@shivamarya5225]

It's like mazda's MX 30 but worse looking

[@alexkarout1586]

ok enjoy paying 5$ a gallon

[@garys2157]

That would do a lot of people just fine for two or three days commute, my truck has over 1000km/600 miles range but is also over $200 to fill, if you have a car how much range do youget/need?

[@anthonyc1883]

@@garys2157 The vast majority of EV owners, the vast majority of the time, charge their vehicles in their garage each night. Taking an EV for road trips is a different matter.Thats not where an EV strengths lie. For tons of people, a 200+ mile range is more than enough to get them back home each night to charge.

[@Cartier_specialist]

The Mazda Miata is by far the best looking of the three hands down. If I was buying one of those 3 I'd pick the Miata every time.

[@brucelivingston2220]

EVs are fast, there are no slow EVs. Mom cars are beating corvettes on the road.