I Discovered My Boyfriend Is Incredibly Clingy, Am I Wrong To Dump Him For This? r/Relationships

[@EluneAnzu]

Story 2: "Family doesn't treat family this way", excuse me, dear sister, FAMILY DOES NOT TAKE A BAT TO A FAMILY MEMBERS' CAR. edit: apparently in sisters mind not only is damaging a family car acceptable but so is kicking out your underage daughter for being gay, what a piece of work.

[@queencatherineofaragon938]

Further proof that terrible parents are just terrible people all around

[@iononcantomascrivo]

Yep. Typical narcissist. They never take accountability for their actions and project everyone holding them accountable for their atrocious behavior as being the villain. They're not capable of introspection, that's why they deflect on to everyone else

[@ScooterBond1970]

No no no, you don't understand, the whole "but family" only works in favor of ME, the narcissist! It's not supposed to benefit YOU because you're not ME! /s

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

"Family doesn't treat family this way"... Throws out their daughter for kissing someone.

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

Story 2: OP single-handedly saved both kids from their terrible parents. His nephew learned about consequences and responsibility and his niece learned that true love shouldn't be conditional on sexuality. He's amazing and that commenter who judged OP for the way he lives his life needs to shut up. I wish I had as good of a relationship with my uncle as OP has with his niblings.

[@Swnsasy]

This was my father and I'm not joking, I'M SO HAPPY I had the daddy I did because then, I was for my 3 kids.. My kids are extremely close to me even though we all live hours apart, they are adults.. Texting everyday, calls mom for advice... These types of parents are disgusting and pathetic.. I'm thankful he was in their life because they would not be who they are now..

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

I agree, dude sounds like a beast.

[@jackchop1576]

Exactly! And reddit, just like when it is a closeted lesbian scamming a straight man had her back 100%. If it was Josh, reddit would've disagreed as closeted gay men who scam straight women are the ultimate evil!

[@marshawargo7238]

Right Away when BIL was smirking while nephew was using the bat & sis said "he didn't" I thought BIL runs His family & His house with an iron fist! He told that kid to extract revenge "like a real man" & it's His opinion on sexuality, sis agrees to keep the peace.😢

[@catalinaplaza7909]

All kids deserve parents, but not all parents deserve kids, their uncle end up being a better parent than both biological parents. 😢

[@9999plato]

There is a huge difference between normal relationship contact and having a touchy feely octopus all over you. He failed to listen to her numerous warnings. Toilet voyeurism with a new GF is bizarre.

[@HoneyBakedHamlet]

It's almost like this dude didn't want her to even have privacy. It's the boundary-crossing, that's the issue here. I'm glad she gave him the boot.

[@jillimi]

With a new girlfriend, with an old girlfriend, with a spouse… My parents have been married for 54 years, and they only see each other in the toilet when one of them is sick, but like, really really really sick.

[@HoneyBakedHamlet]

@@jillimi I agree.. and this dude has only been with her for TWO WEEKS? Absolutely crazy. Even if you're so completely in love with someone.. I'd bet you'd at least let them shit in peace. 😳 In my opinion, this is over the top possessive behaviour, straight away, and not the behaviour of someone in love.

[@ginathecookie]

​@@HoneyBakedHamlet110% agreed. It's more obsessive stalker than true love or like. And yeah, most people want privacy for the toilet. Even when in love. Some don't bother after a lot of years together but that's *years* and not to mention its sometimes accompanied with kids who help you get rid of boundaries (😂). This dude ain't a kid, though. At best he gives yellow flags, at worst red. Really hope he takes this time after OP to work on that and on expressing himself better. Speaking from experience (er, not that I've done what he does, I have other issues), it helps so much.

[@NikkiTSims]

I had a boyfriend like this. I was happy to be with him but it was constant. He would follow me to the toilet and just watch or talk to me. He would constantly touch me, even in front of family. Affection is needed in a relationship, but sometimes it can be overwhelming if they don't respect boundaries.

[@fallingawayfromthenorm]

Story 1 - Normalize listening to “no” when someone says they don’t want to be touched, holy shit. Even if he thought this was meant to be a romantic weekend, him refusing to actually stop and continuing to disrespect OP’s boundaries by interrupting her while she’s using the bathroom is concerning, especially with so fresh of a relationship.

[@bec1482]

100% agree. But also imagine how different reddit would react if OP came out and told them she was autistic and things like hugging or any other kind of affection gave her sensory overload.... Watch how quickly reddit would do a complete 180 and how suddenly they would switch sides if OP told them that.... I don't know but knowing that really annoys me because in order for these reddit commenters to take boundaries seriously you would have to have to be autistic or something which is ridiculous.

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

Yea. Commenters were really off today. Normally, everyone advocates for "no means no" and not listening to no is an immediate "red flag, get out of that relationship." But now it's suddenly OP's fault for not wanting a toddler boyfriend and wanting to dump him after she told him no many times? If he already acts like this after 2 weeks, I don't want to know how he acts in a relationship a year or two from now.

[@ginathecookie]

​@@Nathan_BookwurmYeah, I didn't get that. Was so messed up of them (the commentors). Even I wouldn't expect touch if I had wanted to hang out with someone (more specific someones, in general I don't expect anything at all nor would want touch from strangers) in that way. I may want it but I wouldn't think it a done deal (for sfw or nsfw). That comes from communicating consent which the OP did not do, she communicated her lack of it and he didn't listen. That's.. so problematic. So, so, so much so.

[@strawberrysangria1474]

I was already on OP's side while reddit was having at her for a "romantic getaway" but that edit! It's not romantic when your partner is keeping you sleep deprived, won't respect boundaries, and follows you to the freaking toilet! Respect the toilet testament!

[@lynnw7155]

He probably did expect a romantic weekend, so was confused. But wow, what a creep; he didn't get the message no matter how blunt she was. Don't invite someone away for the weekend after only 2 weeks; you know nothing about them.

[@ginathecookie]

​@@lynnw7155he gives stalker vibes ngl If he keeps this up and doesn't try to work on that there is chances that he might end up like the character in YOU (i don't know his name)..

[@invisigoth510]

@@lynnw7155it was him ignoring her no matter how direct she was that caused me to lose sympathy for him & push me over to the side that he was doing it deliberately in an attempt to love bomb her

[@FrostyBob99]

The first thing I was picturing in my mind was how'd I feel if that happened to me? I don't like getting stalked and mauled much either.

[@lifewithlee6298]

Story 2 the uncles a godsend , wish more kids had a family member who will stand up to toxic BS

[@lynnw7155]

Yup. OP doesn't need any advice from Reddit. He's got this.

[@TwoStepILY]

People who think the first story is OP’s fault probably don’t understand that no means no and dating someone doesn’t mean your entitled to them.

[@tineve2002]

Story #2: OP is one of the best uncles in the world, fighting for his niece and tough love for his nephew. That is an awesome, awesome Uncle. 👌

[@pandytrashpanda5685]

Story 1: I strongly believe you can *not* date someone for any reason. Especially if it includes just being fundamentally incompatible, which it sounds like they are. He also repeatedly refused to respect her boundaries on physical contact and need for personal space. "I really like you" isn't an excuse to stomp all over someones boundaries, it's a reason to respect them. He sounds really immature, "romantic getaway" or not, romance doesn't mean you have to glue yourself to someone when they need personal space be it in bed or ON THE TOILET!?? NTA Story 2: The boy has been driving for 3 months, and it's an insane car to drive. OP driving him and his date is much more reasonable. Safer. Update1: Jesus H Christ. OPs sister is even more immature than her 18 year old son. Update2: Bless OP for getting her ASAP. And for having her back the entire way. OPs sister is not just immature, she's also a frickin monster. I can't ever understand how parents can do this to their children. The love in OPs heart to take the kid in and offering to take in Josh as well with no questions asked, no pause, and no conditions. It almost makes up for the horror that is those kids mother.

[@tully6648]

"I strongly believe you can not date someone for any reason." This. If it's normal to start dating anyone for any reason, then why not break it off for any reason? Granted, some reasons can seem petty to others, but if it's what the individual think is best for them, then that's all that really needs to be said. Lord knows we've had enough stories where someone sticks with another for way too long and winds up massively regretting it. Let the OP that knows she wants to go, go!

[@jakeand9020]

I always thought that was the POINT of dating, how are you supposed to know if you're really compatible with someone if you don't date them? For story 2, I really get the impression BIL made, or at least told the nephew to, hit OP's car, to "teach him a lesson," and OP turned it into a lesson for the nephew.

[@pandytrashpanda5685]

@jakeand9020 What do you mean? You can 100% date someone without glueing yourself to their side while they're trying to pee, and without suffocating them when they let you know they need personal space?

[@jakeand9020]

@@pandytrashpanda5685 @pandytrashpanda5685 Not sure how you twisted my comment around like that. "You can not date someone for any reason. Especially if it includes being fundamentally incompatible." To which I replied, that's the whole point of dating, to see if you are compatible. That necessarily means if you're not, you stop dating them because there's no point in getting into a more serious relationship.

[@pandytrashpanda5685]

@jakeand9020 speaking of twisting comments, let me rephrase; you can choose to opt out of dating someone for any reason. You can **not** date someone for any reason. I thought it was contextually clear. If you're just saying you agree, though that wasn't super clear in the first comment, then yeah. I just disagree with people feeling the need to endlessly justify opting out.

[@datmanydocris]

Story 2: "Family doesn't make family pay for anything." Yeah, family also doesn't vandalize their family member's car for not allowing them to use it and they certainly don't kick out and abandon their underage daughter for being a lesbian.

[@user-wr3vt8uq4s]

Right, and the dad's sh!t eating grin means he completely knew it was going to happen. Real "Christian" of them.

[@azadalamiq]

wouldn't be surprised if it was the dad who forced him to do it.. using the kid as a scapegoat for something he wanted to do.

[@GBunnyG]

He woke her up to hold her hand? Are these comments kidding? Dude, back off.

[@jimmygarza8896]

No, he tried holding her hand and accidentally woke her up.

[@GaiaTheNatureWitch]

Don't you know us woman aren't aloud to say no,we're not aloud personal space.

[@GBunnyG]

@@jimmygarza8896 That's so much worse.

[@Araraki-Itto1]

​@@jimmygarza8896 Creepy either way dude.

[@carolroberts4614]

My family are not a huggy family. It would drive me insane if I was with someone like that.

[@sapphicgeek24]

Story 1: NTA. Moms with infants and toddlers are often touched out and need some space. She tried to communicate those boundaries and he kept steamrolling her. And dude is a creep for wanting to sit next to her while she uses the bathroom 😬😬

[@Feynix4]

Yikes wtf???? When I got to that part I was so disgusted and creeped out

[@Ashbrash1998]

I was thinking this 100%, it sounds like OP was pcerstomukaged and just wanted some quiet and peace.

[@Mkay999]

Story 1: the commenters are nuts. She thought the dude would be a normal human on the trip. What man wakes you up when you’re sleeping to hold your hand? The guy is a clingy creep

[@Swnsasy]

I like cuddles but I CANNOT be cuddled in bed and I'm so happy my husband is the same way.. Everyday, kiss when he's leaving for work, kiss when he gets home. I may walk by give him a hug abs kiss and keep it moving.. These comments aren't paying attention AT ALL!! They aren't actually thinking before they write but, that's Reddit 😂

[@invisigoth510]

That waking you up to do something is low key abusive It’s denying the person sleep in order to control them & a technique used by cults when brainwashing new members & it has been used in prisoner of war camps to break the prisoners

[@AngelaMastrodonato]

Initially I was split on my judgment. I didn’t catch the part about him waking her up to hold her hand. Somehow I thought he wanted to hold her hand when they went to bed, which didn’t seem weird to me. At first it almost sounded like OP didn’t want any physical contact at all, which seemed weird for a getaway with a boyfriend. On the other hand, he was clearly ignoring her very clearly stated wishes, multiple times. Then I read OPs updates and it was clear this guy was smothering her. Following her to the bathroom to show her some Facebook meme was weird. Then I found out they had only been dating for two weeks, which seems early for a overnight trip. I have to put some of that on OP. She’s normal for wanting some space, but comes across as moving too quickly by agreeing to go on an overnight trip and paying for the whole thing on top it it. In the end she did the right thing dumping him. He sounds like more trouble than he’s worth. But I hope OP learned a lesson about pacing a relationship. She’s attracting weirdos by going away with guys she barely knows.

[@Mkay999]

You don’t have to pace a relationship with normal humans. I’ve done trips like 3rd date knowing someone, and realized it I like them more or don’t. When someone is overly physically clingy you don’t need a reason to get the ick. Also, moving in within proper timelines doesn’t make an adjustment to living with someone easier. You click or don’t.

[@vampire9545]

My wife does that, but usually wake up. Feels normal and fine to me

[@ZombieSazza]

“Family doesn’t treat family this way” Always said by the abusive, toxic family. A phrase I grew up with, and guess who’s been no-contact for several years? Because they’re right, family does NOT treat family that way. Wishing OP the best and hope he can cut all contact, maybe even a restraining order.

[@waldinao8679]

Sarah is perfect just the way she is. Thank you for being just a wonderful a uncle.

[@DestinationsChronicles]

Creepy crawly BF story: My question is, "why would you go away for a weekend with someone you've only dated two weeks? Someone you've never even taken to your own home?" I am trying not to be all judgy but, having dated only two weeks, I wouldn't put my self in that position! I am glad OP had the presence of mind NOT to have him pick up the drive at her home!!

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

Maybe the dude talked her into it somehow.

[@wintersnow88]

This was my thought also. I don't want to be judgmental either, she can live her life however she wants imo but it seems dangerous to take someone away after that short of time. I thought maybe she'd known him for a while and they'd just started dating but if he didn't know where she lived then it seems like they just met. I'm glad she's safe.

[@LoveableNiki]

@@wintersnow88 I get what you are saying. However, I think OP wanted to spend one-on-one time with the guy and felt it was safer at a neutral place. In the end, OP was correct because this guy knowing OP's address would have put OP and her child(ren) in danger. I definitely would have dated this guy mich longer before going on a trip.

[@gorkemaykut5230]

Story 2: im glad op is able to protect sarah from such abusive monsters and i wish the best for sarah. As a side note im happy to see josh is growing up as a great person despite the parenting of those two pieces of work

[@owl7072]

Story 1: I'm someone who can also be very clingy if i know/like/trust someone enough, _however,_ I'm only like that when i know the person is okay with it. Op's said they asked him numerous times to stop but he hasn't, this sounds like a compatibility issue paired with listening issues on his part from what I'm hearing _so far._ Edit: The bathroom part is weird yeah, even I wouldn't do that

[@RisetoStrength]

Notice how the weird stuff never comes out it the initial post, they always forget to mention the weird/mentally unwell things until people comment about the OP's shortcomings.

[@owl7072]

@think-eh3fm on the one hand, yeah I've seen posts where the Op has done that 🤔 On the other hand, some subreddits are notorious for having character limits, and it causes you to have to leave specific details out 🤷🏻

[@elenameissner]

​​@@RisetoStrengthactually, him watching her while on the toilet was in the op, at about 2:30

[@RisetoStrength]

@@owl7072 If there's character limits, I think watching her go to the bathroom would be first on her list.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

@@RisetoStrength some people also don't think about these things in the moment. I've done this multiple times myself. It doesn't necessarily mean anything here.

[@1964Puddles]

Story 2 Uncle totally ROCKS!! As a former ultra conservative Christian, when my 2nd came out to me, it took me a nanosecond to choose my child. My trans son is so happy he's his true self now. Just as an aside, I'm still a Christian, just one who believes in God's unconditional love for all, and the church I now go to is affirming and bent on being the hands and feet of Christ to everyone, and fighting for the rights of any marginalized community.

[@davidsantiagotate7380]

As a trans guy myself, I just want to say thank you 🙏 your son will never forget how you chose to love and support him. I’m not religious but I know enough about Jesus to see that you’re truly embodying his teachings of love and acceptance ❤

[@1964Puddles]

@davidsantiagotate7380 thank you. There was never any question for me. The way I see it, my understanding of the Bible verses I was taught for decades was obviously faulty, and I set myself to research, read, and get support through safe, secret Mama Bear groups. I am so thankful for my trans son, bc he made such a difference in my life *because* of being LGBTQ, that I feel I have a better understanding of what unconditional love really means. 🤎

[@InvasionAnimation]

I wish more religious people were like you, that is great to here!

[@AndyyWithAY]

I got vibes Josh was the golden child, but I wasn't expecting that update. I think they were looking for a reason to kick her out. I'm glad OP is there for her. That comment at the beginning was so dumb. It's super normal for aunts/uncles to be close to their neieces and nephews, especially if they don't have their own kids. When someone is obviously wrong, not picking a side is picking a side

[@GiordanDiodato]

"staying neutral enables the oppressor" -Desmond Tutu

[@carolroberts4614]

That was weird. If an uncle hasn't any family of his own, why shouldn't he spend his money on his niece and nephew? There's been some strange commenters today, with the ones on the touchy feely man too!

[@AndyyWithAY]

@carolroberts4614 You are right, most of the comments today were so suspect.

[@juliearmfield2634]

My heart just breaks for Sarah but I'm so glad that she's got such a wonderful loving supportive uncle to have her back like he does.

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

@@carolroberts4614 Yea... It's hypocrite. When there's OP's saying "they're not my kids but nephews so I don't need to see them often/spend money on them" then redditers fall over the OP for not caring about family. But when an uncle cares about his nephews, then it's too much? 🙄

[@Alfy1980]

Story 2: I feel so so so sorry for the kids, the daughter specifically. I can't imagine how a parent can just abandon their child like that, for not fitting "their" image of "right". I could never cut my own daughter off like that. I would want her to be happy no matter what. My heart breaks for that girl.

[@Mama_Bear_of_3]

The final updates of story 2 just broke my heart. How could any parent hate their child simply for who they love. My husband and I always joke that we hit a hat trick (hickey term). Our eldest is bi, his twin sister is a lesbian, and my youngest is FTM Trans. We love our kids with every piece of our soul, and when they let us know who they were, we let them know we loved them dearly and accepted them no matter what.

[@maxinemyers9215]

I have several close relatives who are gay and are just the people that I love and God made us all so no mistakes here💙 You’re a great Mom🌹

[@sonialinsey8083]

I mean it’s fine to not understand or agree with your how your children want to live their lives but you had a kid, you’re in for 18 years and kicking them out for anything short of a felony is an enormous failure of responsibility. Like no matter what they did, as the parent, you’re not going to look like the winner in that situation.

[@tully6648]

It's always heartbreaking. Too many parents start out holding their little babies in their arms, promising them the world and that they'll protect them. I wonder how all of that disappears, or how some of them become so disgustingly hateful just because their kid is gay, trans, whatever. I could never, and I don't even have kids.

[@ineedhoez]

Yikes

[@sitnspin1819]

There's no hate like religious love.

[@tetraganii]

My husband is just like op in story 1. His mother too. "i love you dont touch me" was a common phrase he grew up with, and he grew into it. He doesnt express his affection with physical touch, and im okay with that. We do cuddle and kiss and sometimes he wants to hold my hand when we're near each other, but he has a thousand other ways of making me feel like the most important person in his life and feel more than enough love from him. Its about being compatible and understanding and accepting love languages.

[@holdfast1979]

8:20 that first story. I’m glad OP held her ground at the end there. His “moments” were multiple and became inexcusable when he didn’t listen to her boundaries. I get it, he thought it was romantic date time. But when she states her boundaries, listen. It’s okay to be like “nah, I wanted to be affectionate with someone I am dating. I’m out. Sounds like you wanted to be with yourself.” But instead he was “oh, you’re going to poop. I can’t wait to SEE!!”

[@recycledapathy7411]

No kidding. "Watch someone take a piss" is not a dating for two weeks milestone. That's more like a dating a long time and now you live together and you're both comfortable with one of you coming in to piss while the other showers milestone. The guy was trying to force intimacies that he hasn't earned yet. I'm not talking about sex, I'm talking about "I'm still not even comfortable farting around you yet, much less letting you watch me drop a load in the bucket."

[@redonyx5428]

@@recycledapathy7411 dude was acting like my late dog. couldn't do anything without her there.

[@anklebiterwoodworks2818]

@@redonyx5428 I got a Dacshund, Chihuahua/Jack Russel mix and and Husky Corgie (Official AKC mix name is Horgie) that do this to me (man) but rarely my wife. Its the worst when the Horgie insists on getting in my lap. If I had remembered to close the door (our house has a weird layout, story for another time) he would not have had the chance. But, they are usually in another part of the house and, with my Crohn's Disease, let's just say I am way more focus on the immediate need at hand and getting to the master bathroom, but as soon as they hear the usual sounds..."HI, DAD!"

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

@@redonyx5428 Or a toddler. So glad my youngest, 5 year's old, is almost out of this "sharing bathroom" phase. 😅 can't imagine having a toddler or dog as a partner.

[@Enriquez2222]

Romance doesn’t mean we spend every second together or maybe I’m just defective….

[@tracybarber-kier1669]

1. BF sounds obsessive... imagine how controlling & judgmental he'd be if the relationship progressed for much longer.

[@EnDB]

Holding her hand while she's sleeping? That's a level of clingy I've never heard of. Going to the bathroom with her? Crazy. Wtf

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

That reminds me on a Nanny Joe episode where they teach the "off the hip" technique to get clingy toddlers to leave their mum alone for a minute. The dude obviously didn't get that technique put on him and is still behaving like that 😅

[@KRStephen]

Well, some people like cuddling/touching/holding hands while sleeping, others hate it. Nothing wrong with either preference. However, trying to force touch on someone who isn't interested in cosplaying the Gordian knot - just don't!

[@ZoeAlleyne]

​@KRStephen ahhhhhhh, I'm dying because I just choked on my coke because I have never seen "Gordian knot" used that way and I wasn't expecting it and I'm dying.

[@DiZoSoMom]

My bf of 4 years and I sleep very intertwined at times, and wake up with fingers linked a lot. We both subconsciously do it; not always, but sometimes. There’s nothing wrong with snuggling and being very touchy if it’s *consensual* … that’s the key word. Some people like that level of affection and some don’t; it’s all about finding a partner who vibes like you do, shows affection similarly, and listens to your boundaries. Holding hands while sleeping is pretty tame though lol. Wait til you hear about the wild world of BDSM! Haha

[@itsjustmaddisen]

The first story is my worst nightmare. I have trauma so I don’t like it when people I barely know are touchy. I only barely let my friends that I’ve known for over ten years hug and cuddle me but that’s because they respect my personal space and wouldn’t overstep ever. One of my friends is very affectionate but she’ll still ask me before cuddling me. This guy makes my skin crawl.

[@RuminatingRaptor]

S1: just because OP invited him on a getaway, doesn’t mean she owes him constant attention. There’s no confusion when she told him a bunch of different times not to touch her so much. There’s a difference between being cuddly and affectionate and being a barnacle boyfriend. She communicated her boundaries and he stomped all over them. She’s touched out from her toddler. And the bathroom??!?! Wtf?!?? No! 😂

[@toothless3835]

story 1: the comments before the edit sound wild. Yeah, you can be clingy and want to touch someone and things. But after they say stop, stop. and every second? grabbing someone's hand while they're sleeping? That's different than rolling over and cuddling them in your sleep. I'm perfectly happy to sit in the same room as my husband and read a book without touching him. But I'm introverted and don't always like touch.

[@wldr292]

Story 1:Nobody should be that clingy in a relationship

[@ginathecookie]

Not so soon anyway And even then only with someone who is okay with it..

[@MH-ku5kn]

Story 2: thank GOD he is their uncle because what a absolute crap set of parents

[@Shortypants1215]

Story 2: once upon a time, I, too, was a young lesbian. Thank you, Uncle OP. ❤️

[@PuppyKatt]

Story 1: OP dodged a nuclear missile. You dated him for 2 weeks and he did not have your address? I have never heard of that - good for you. I have a feeling in my gut that if he had come to get his stick, that he would not have taken no for an answer, an things would not have ended well for you. I am so glad that you are safe.

[@toothless3835]

I mean I have friends that I've had for years that have never had my address. I've also only dated 3 people in my life and had known them for at least a year each [some even longer] before I started dating them. So maybe I'm the odd one.

[@hothotheat3000]

He 10000% used the stick as an excuse to see her. Nutter.

[@mindyschocolate]

Yup, “Don’t you want to see me? We don’t have to talk” like, buuuuuuullshit she’s going to give him the stick and he wouldn’t have said anything to her. 😂😂😂😂

[@historictruecrime5119]

I go for months without letting somebody I might be casually dating, know where I live. I don’t want people follow me home, showing up on announced unless we’re in an actual relationship.

[@historictruecrime5119]

@@toothless3835 you’re not. I’m the same way. I’m very protective of who has my address, and who doesn’t

[@pixiechick05171971]

There is a difference between spending time with a partner and being flat out CREEPY!!!

[@IrisAsuras]

It's normal to think you're having a romantic weekend and it's also normal to want boundaries. He clearly crossed them so many times it's wow...unbelievable. I don't no anyone who wants to watch their new love interest pee or poop.

[@j.graham8068]

Story 1: Golden retriever behavior is only charming if it's a dog doing it. That story gave me the creeps!

[@bunnyslippers191]

Even a Golden will give you a break after a while. This guy obviously is more clingy than a Golden.

[@Grace_x68]

Hehe your remark is best here

[@ginathecookie]

I mean its cute sometimes in people But from people who respect boundaries even so.

[@carolroberts4614]

Now I'm picturing Op's bf doing what my daughter's Golden used to do with visitors! He'd bring them a present of a shoe or a sock.

[@redonyx5428]

s2: OPs sister and bil are going to be that couple crying to everyone all over the internet they don't know why their kids want nothing to do with them.

[@eowyn8340]

Story 1: NTA. I broke up with a guy for very similar reasons. It was like I wasn’t allowed to have any personal space. But he also texted 24/7, and if I didn’t reply with enthusiasm (even while driving!) he would grill me about something had to be “wrong”. I did tell him it was all too much and that he either needed to respect my boundaries and autonomy, or we wouldn’t work. We broke up.

[@AndyyWithAY]

Story 2 NTA. He's a very new driver and him having a passenger will be an even bigger distraction. This would be like comparing am employee on day 1 and 1 who has been with the company for a year. So if Josh has a car, why can't he just drive that? 🤔 The fact he took a bat to your car proves he's not fit to drive your car.

[@bunnyslippers191]

Yep, Josh obviously doesn't have enough control over his emotions to drive a high powered car like that, especially since he's only had his license for 3 months.

[@Chilliwack56]

I would not be surprised if BIL, since he smiled when he heard the thunk, put his son up to it.

[@mbyerly9680]

Since his dad knew what he was doing with the bat, it was obvious Josh had bad parents even before they went Biblical on their daughter.

[@jakeand9020]

​@@Chilliwack56this, it seems pretty clear he was put up to it by his self righteous parents.

[@GrumpyOldFart2]

Because driving a Subaru to prom is sooooo uncool. He wants to show off “his” muscle car to everyone.

[@paulastiles5507]

Story #2: Josh is damned lucky he didn't end up in court with a record and his parents have ridiculously spoiled him. He's clearly their Golden Child. Oh, and on top of everything, they're homophobic bigots. Poor Sarah. Glad OP is able to help her.

[@kumikor3392]

At least Josh isn't a homophobe and immediately supported his sister at the expense of his own financial situation. They're both lucky to have OP

[@paulastiles5507]

@@kumikor3392Yeah, that was a pleasant twist on the usual way things go. Go Josh.

[@mariem8705]

S1- different love languages. So it’s not going to work out. But watching someone piss and poop?! Tf!?

[@janglesthearsonist5265]

Story 2: OP needs to get cameras for the exterior of his property. All it takes is one family member who doesn't side with Sarah to have a few too many drinks for them to decide that direct confrontation is needed to solve the situation and "mend" their family!

[@darkunykorn404]

As a friend once said: I'm not touchscreen. Back off. I had a coworker who was very clingy. I never got a weird vibe from it; it was just the way he was. He'd always touch me while talking, would call my name all the damn time, dominate every conversation, insert himself into every conversation, it was extremely annoying. I wonder how his wife copes if he's like that with her too.

[@Grace_x68]

They normally don't touch their wife's like this. Don't let co-workers touch you like this. It's a way of establishing dominance. That's most likely the reason why he inserts himself everywhere.

[@darkunykorn404]

​@@Grace_x68 normally I'd agree, but that guy didn't have that sort of vibe; he was just overly affectionate and clueless/nosy as hell. If he tried to be dominant he failed big time lol I would tell him off all the time (politely, ofc, but, y'know). We're south american so touching isn't necessarily uncommon, he was just a bit overboard. But now I work from home so no more weirdness 🙏

[@shanebrown4146]

The last story would make one hell of a great movie

[@mriddley]

Yeah those comments condemning the op are definitely people that are either single or are on sine kind of watch list

[@ginathecookie]

That's an insult to single people I wouldn't, and don't, do this They have even less of an excuse (I'm not offended, I'm half agreeing with you.)

[@Iflie]

It's so nuts in this day and age that people still freak out and throw their kids out on the street for not being straight. That's not love, that's just wanting kids you can brag about to your bigot "friends". No loving parent would do that. I hope they get punished by the law too, many kids have nowhere to go and end up abused and addicted on the streets.

[@smapa1185]

Story 2 is so sad. Homophobic people are horrible.

[@colleens1107]

Story two: BOTH those kids are sooo lucky to have an ally like their uncle. The nephew has managed to become a decent person despite his golden child status and the niece had someone to run to when her parents were homophobic douche bags. I hope they have a great life with a real parental figure

[@sandrag3854]

Story 1 is just all kinds of bizarre. They definitely needed to go on more dates to get to know each other better. Not going away for a weekend alone. Way too soon for that.

[@megnotmegan1966]

Mark does a good job of finding the weirdos….

[@carolroberts4614]

He's got Weirdar!

[@JoJoGranum]

Story 2: OP is a hero to those kids. He is definitely someone who knows the definition of family. I love the way he stood up for his niece. And the way he gave a life lesson for his nephew. Good for him.

[@IVIattRandomSmith]

Story one I was thinking they just had different love languages and just weren't compatible in that way. But by the end just seems like the dude doesnt know how to respect boundaries and take no for an answer.

[@grangerweasley]

That first story gave me the ick! I don’t blame OP!

[@iamalbertwesker2]

Love that after the "car ride" Josh has woken up and seen what absolute monsters his family is.

[@swiftninja91]

Story 1 - I'm not good with physical contact and I love my alone time, so this would freak me out too. If he's not listening to you, dump him

[@Some_Idiot_on_the_Internet]

Second OP is those kid's real dad. Nuturing, providing, diciplinary. He's a dad.

[@rhiannoncarney9380]

Story 1: NTA, op's boyfriend acts like a needy puppy that you just brought home from the shelter!!!

[@CodenameTurtle]

Wowww, that uncle OP is amazing. What a sweet human. I hope he and his niece gets everything they need in life.

[@carrissa8867]

What an amazing uncle his niece and nephew are lucky to have him

[@Regrettable-Username]

Story 1: People who are touchy with people who've directly asked not to be touched are a problem. Consent is key when it comes to anything with your body and your partners. She told him to stop and he refused. My ex-BIL did that shit with my sister when they were dating and it drove me up the wall! Like don't touch people who have asked to be left alone, it's not that hard of a concept. And the fact that he just came into the bathroom while she was using it showed how little he cared about her privacy. All of it *screams* a lack of respect and that is poison in a relationship. I'm just glad she didn't let him know where she lives, someone this obsessed could also be dangerous. I'd tell her to keep an eye out for him still, I don't see him respecting that the relationship is over because he "just likes her so much." Story 2: OP is an angel and his family is monstrous. The fact that his sister and BIL called the family of the niece's girlfriend, outing her to them, makes me sick. Them saying the only way for *their child* to come back to the family is if she volunteers to be tormented is enraging. I'm glad he'd built the relationship with her so that she knew he was a safe person to run to.

[@ginathecookie]

Glad I'm not the only one who saw the obsessive, potentionally dangerous vibes. It could not happen but it's better OP handled things this way and didn't give out address. Edit; Saw, not say.

[@sgtjarhead99]

S2 - Well. That certainly escalated quickly.

[@mztweety1374]

Honey, sometimes you're better off alone.

[@AndyyWithAY]

When you're dating, no kids, no shared property I don't really think there's a wrong reason to break up. This guy is definitely 3 red flags in a trench coat. People can get touched out, especially if you have a toddler. Romantic getaway doesn't mean you continue to touch me after I said no, and he watched her 💩?? Did I hear that correctly? And after TWO weeks! This clingy?? She was definitely not wrong.

[@patdpm3807]

Agree! The idea that he wouldn't leave her alone while she was trying to go to the bathroom totally weirded me out!! 🤢

[@RisetoStrength]

I'm with the commenters. OP isn't just a woman, she's a mom. That's going to overtake her life, and it's overtaking her dating life. It's also mysterious that she forgets the most egregious things until people start calling her out on this. I think OP's got the red flags.

[@impishrebel5969]

@@RisetoStrength Have you ever been in a flea market where someone was aggressively shoving things into your face trying to sell them and following you all over the place until you get fed up and leave? Yeah. It's like that when you don't want to be touched. And who the hell WANTS to put "he followed me into the bathroom to watch me dump" if they don't have to? It's embarrassing. I think you're waving a few red flags if you think people 100% need to share very single detail of every single minute, there's this thing called oversharing, and there's an even more important thing called privacy that redditors as a whole has forgotten exists. It's not "mysterious" at all.

[@ginathecookie]

​@@RisetoStrengthyou think it's mysterious how the human brain and memory works? I think you've been on reddit horror stories too much

[@RisetoStrength]

@@ginathecookie Let me say it directly. I think OP is a liar and had to invent things after her original post in order to get more people to take her side.

[@kingsevil5255]

These ridiculous comments. There's a difference between intimacy and smothering someone and dude was definitely being extremely cloying.

[@ginathecookie]

I know, right? Not to mention it's only been 2 weeks, yikes.

[@bec1482]

I feel sorry for OP in story 1, I knew exactly what she was was trying to say, reddit just seemed to totally misunderstand her. It's perfectly normal and possible like OP said for couples to just enjoy each others company without the need to cling to each other and other displays of affection every 5 mins. What OP is asking for is not crazy or unusual at all. What if OP was autistic, I bet those same redditors would say the complete opposite if OP said that....

[@arroweyne]

Story 1. Op dodged a MAJOR bullet. That update says a lot about his intentions. The fact that he was pressuring her to meet at her place, and was still giving pushback after she said no. Good on her for cutting him out before it spiralled. He's giving me stalker vibes.

[@lorrainemontagnon1537]

Also,Mark, I love the music you play at the end. It is the perfect drop to your show. It leaves me feeling happy and optimistic. Much live ❤❤

[@latrobevalleyparanormaldet2157]

Story 2, OP shows that not all heroes wear capes. Definitely want to see updates as they come in for this story!

[@paulchaudoir190]

You can still have a chill good time on a vacation without someone trying to hold your hand while you take a shit. lol

[@Boe-Temeraire]

My 18 month old niece understands when I tell her I don’t want to be touched. She is literally a year and a half old and can grasp simple boundaries like “please don’t touch me right now”. A grown ass adult has no excuse for trying to steamroll boundaries like that.

[@EnDB]

No one should give a teen, who's been driving for three months, a car with 1000 hp.

[@redonyx5428]

s1: I've found out that unfortunately a lot of men don't really have anything going for them in their lives. They may have jobs but that's it. No real community, no true friends. They don't do anything, they go nowhere, have no hobbies or interests.They wrongly think that being in a relationship, having a woman, will "fix" them in that she will be his emotional support and therapist. Dude is extremely clingy because he has NOTHING. He is extremely lonely because he doesn't know how to be alone so he stomps all over OPs reasonable boundaries because he can't stand being by himself. Waking her up to hold her hand or watching her poop is next level weirdness.

[@susankaempfer8427]

That’s UNREAL level of ungrateful, with the boy’s dad sitting there smirking. I’m so angry I feel nauseous. 🤯🤬

[@madambutterfly1997]

Thank God the nephew also plans to go no contact with his parents.

[@CatLoverX74]

Damn didn’t know story 2 would turn into the parents being bigots and kicking out their daughter 😢 Im so glad uncle has her back! She’s better off without those parents in her life. Im glad her brother also wants nothing to do with them once he can stand on his own feet. What vile awful parents 😡

[@phillipa666]

Story 2: Wow. OP is an amazing uncle! I'm soo glad the 2 kids have him in their lifes to have someone supporting them & being there for them. That family is absolutely trash! In years to come they'll be shocked why they have no contact from their kids 🙄

[@louisenorkjaer8307]

S2: This Uncle is GOALS! I can only hope to be as amazing as him to my niblings.

[@NimbleSoulThief]

Holy shit, that last series was a roller coaster! I was glad to hear the nephew did some honest self-reflection and improvement. Did not expect the parents to end up being that evil, though! If Uncle is somehow reading this: Good for you! You are a fucking superhero!

[@toothless3835]

Dude. Uncle of the year.

[@Weirdo365yea]

Story 2 is wild. How did Op's parent raise such different kids with different morals

[@DrownedInExile]

S1: What the actual hell is wrong with these comments? They just reek of "she invited him, so she must have been asking for it"! Waking her up to hold her hand? Prying into the bathroom? Super ick! I'm glad she broke up and blocked this creep.

[@gorkemaykut5230]

I regularly invite my friends over but that doesn't mean come sit with me when I'm taking a shit lol

[@josephbarnett9116]

All the people saying he did nothing wrong are probably codependent too. There was no confusion or miscommunication after OP LITERALLY SAID don’t touch me etc. This guy is clingy to a crazy degree.

[@aduckofsomesort]

Those comments are so off-base. Like yeah she wanted to spend time with him, but he was trying to be glued to her hip. And he couldn’t take no for an answer at any point. This time he woke her up to hold her hand, which it in itself is incredibly weird, but next time he’ll be waking her up for sex. Do you think he’s going to take the no then?

[@mattl6300]

S1: that dude is wierd. S2: thats a karma farm.

[@karenthurman4953]

That Uncle is a wonderful Human!

[@mbyerly9680]

The BF sounds like a neurotic dog, not a BF. Watching you pee? Wow.

[@Gaia-Chosen]

Wow never heard of an uncle like this ever. Them 2 kids are really lucky.

[@corimaever]

Perfect timing! Was just about to start drawing! Thanks for the awesome content!

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Cool

[@ughaghost]

Story 2. That uncle is a saint is what he says is true. The best of humanity truly. Someone needed to fight for those kids, theyre so lucky to have each other.

[@paulinadeboer3604]

Story 2 my word i am invested i need that story about his parents. What a horrible parents for both kids.

[@TheArmyOfGoats]

Jesus Christ… story 2 was a wild ride

[@abelink9229]

Story 1: OMG that dude is creepy. Even if he's not consciously malicious and not some sort of a maniac who will escalate (which he might be, what do we know), that level of trying to merge with another person is dangerous to that person's mental health.

[@ginathecookie]

Yeah Not sure it was malicious but definitely bad vibes

[@dnprime1737]

story 2: op is a terrific uncle, good on him for helping out his niece and nephew, and shame on the sister and bil, bigots, the both of them.

[@simonO712]

Okay, OP 2 sounds like an absolutely amazing person.

[@sketchbook8725]

I have a staring problem because im a shy person who likes another person and have problems with understanding social cues but even i understand when someone wants space and not wanting to be bothered

[@michamocha]

Story 1: NTA. They were just wildly incompatible. Eta: Yeah, this sounds excessive lmao. I would've went crazy too. S2: NTA. The parents didn't step up to properly teach their child the why that follows the no so Op had to. Not only did he got the message across clearly, but he helped the nephew realize his faults and own up to them. It's sad that a teen did this better than the actual adults who are his parents. Eta: jfc Op is an amazing uncle. It's insane how he's a better parent figure to those kids than the actual parents.

[@CBMOA]

Story 1: Imagine if he’s more than clingy He’s a yandere Boy would the comments hit harder than gravity itself

[@itsjustmaddisen]

I lost it at yandere lol.

[@Grace_x68]

He does have the vibes of a crazed unaliver

[@ginathecookie]

​@@Grace_x68yandwres are also sometimes just dangerous obssessive stalkers But yeah

[@carinetalska6329]

Ugh my ex was similar to the guy in the story 1#, not the same amount of clingy tho. Constantly touchy, wouldn't accept no even on days I just wasn't feeling well or was sick, and was just overwhelming. I think people need to understand that yes, touch is a love-language, but if your partner's is not, you need to also respect that and compromise. Sometimes I just want to exist in the presence of someone, and that's enough for me, we don't have to talk or cuddle, I'm just happy to be with them in the same room because their presence makes me happy. But if I constantly have to apologize for not feeling good today while my partner is constantly trying to hug me and kiss me knowing well I'm having cramps, it's just disrespectful.

[@snake5solid]

It's frustrating how it's apparently hard to understand that people don't need to be constantly all over each other. That there are other ways to show intimacy than sex or whatever weird shit that guy was doing.

[@Silence-1170]

Hi waffles hope you are all doing well today! Stay safe and stay positive waffles! Have a great Thursday!

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

🤗🤗💜💜🧇🧇

[@AuroraPaintBrush4444]

Story 1: To me, the only people/individuals that are allowed in the bathroom with me while I'm USING it are: 1) Emergency situation and I'm dying. 2) My pets, litterbox is a bathroom item. 3) a SO that has seen me at my worst and they need the bathroom too, so they can get to work on time lol. Not a person that you barely know. The bathroom incident would be a red flag to me.