'I don't see why it's impossible to enforce the law' Douglas Murray on migration | SpectatorTV

[@peterc.1618]

As I've said before, there is something seriously wrong when it's easier to enter the UK without a passport than it is to leave Sainsbury's without a receipt.

[@Hughesed]

😂😂😂

[@Opine101]

That’s a feature not a bug for our rulers.

[@no-oneman.4140]

Are you seriously saying it's hard to leave any shop in the UK without a receipt, you've not been following the news.

[@peterc.1618]

@@no-oneman.4140 The measure has just been introduced by Sainsbury's (one of the largest supermarket chains) where you have to scan the barcode of the receipt on a reader before the exit gates from the self-service checkout area will open. Yes, I've seen the guys (and girls) on the news; one this evening claimed she had to shoplift because her boyfriend was a drug addict. He could get off drugs or she could find another boyfriend. I don't quite understand the Sainsbury's system since shoplifters aren't going to go through the checkouts anyway.

[@no-oneman.4140]

Apologies, did not know that.

[@patrickkyle4601]

When Chris talks about building the economies in Africa so that people want to stay there, I have to ask what happened to the billions in foreign aid that the West has been sending there since the '70s?

[@rogerwinter1563]

Rhodesia was the country that fed the rest of Africa when it turned into Zimbabwe the rest of Africa was unable to feed it and the rest of Europe will suffer the same fate as it is flooded with Africa.

[@brazoon1]

James Watson has some thoughts on that. He "wonders" why they haven't been able to develop functioning societies despite the billions in aid. I'd elaborate further but I don't want my account banned by the YT overlords.

[@anthonybartlett6924]

it has gone into the pockets of the blk political elite & their supporters.

[@incurableromantic4006]

Ended up in Swiss banks and the profits of arms-makers.

[@InqvisitorMagnvs]

@@brazoon1 Mean IQ differentials across races, which are insurmountable.

[@maxtelero4904]

I’m in Italy. In small villages and towns, there are groups of young African men hanging around outside supermarkets begging, and in lovely rural traditional towns and just hanging around and the locals hate them. No integration

[@lorna5193]

They don't want to integrate and they will endanger the lives of women in particular due to their beliefs. Sweden is a prime example of this.

[@julietkelly7215]

Italy is finished as is the UK.

[@duke68318]

Your only solution is to remove them yourselves, by force if need be. Some of you might run afoul of the police but a message needs to be sent by the locals. When an entire town bands together and exerts their will, the government will have no choice but to pay attention.

[@danesovic7585]

I don't want them to integrate. They need to go back.

[@GlasPthalocyanine]

and when they're begging, are they telling you how much you owe them?

[@stumccabe]

I lived in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe for 30 years. My opinion is that it is impossible to "integrate" Africans into Western societies - we are too different and attempting it will inevitably lead to tensions and possibly conflict.

[@kirishima2370]

It already has/does

[@aaronwilkinson8963]

It's called Rhodesia. Rhodesia is a wealthy and prosperous country. Zimbabwe is typically Africa.

[@Munkey205]

Typical racist western opinion, the west destroyed the Middle East and most of Africa, now you whine and cry. Typical “when we” white Zimbabwean crap.

[@wolfu597]

@@aaronwilkinson8963 It used to be called the bread basket of Africa, now it's a complete basket case.

[@sulaak]

Yet you lived in Africa.

[@asafzilberberg6648]

Douglas Murray - brave voice of truth

[@peterf.7112]

Why don't they mention the elephant in the room which is when these men get asylum they will demand family reunion, so if 7000 land in Italy, it is closer to 30000 eventually

[@globalpropertyinvestment]

Actually, each one can bring up to 20 family members, so if 100k are given asylum, that may equate to 2 million!

[@Lurch685]

@@globalpropertyinvestmentJesus Christ. This is replacement. This is WAR.

[@firstlast9916]

Great. The more people there are collecting benefits, the quicker the benefit system will collapse. Let them in to take down this monstrosity of a government.

[@jenster29]

​@@firstlast9916that's shooting yourself in the foot. It will just become full of poor Africans and Brits... pure mayhem which is perfect for the government

[@patrickvernon4766]

Why this ideology against giving money to the classes which was functional after all and a national family. Why do you have this class war attitude against your own?! It sounds disgusting

[@markashdown1314]

Spot on from Douglas as ever.

[@taekwanlew]

No, he is using the language that panders to the worst types in this country, ie, you

[@Cedawood]

@@taekwanlew ignoramus hypocrite

[@Withwhatmytoes]

@@taekwanlewif you don’t like it you can leave. You are in the minority

[@cosettapessa6417]

@@taekwanlewgo on a boat greta

[@firstlast9916]

Fake fear of migrants is irrational and a violation of the most basic unalienable right that our species values: movement.

[@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786]

The longer the failure to enforce the law, the failure to carry out the first duty of government, goes on the worse the considiton of the social contract. The more reason every citizen has to consider their government incompetent and harmful to them. And the more reason for every citizen to become both entirely lawless and extremely active in defending themselves, their property, and their nation. In other words, the more governments fail to defend the borders the more the nation slips towards mass lawlessness and civil war.

[@izzyplant8428]

Truth and perfectly put.

[@johnwade1095]

Britain isn't a social contract nation.

[@andylewis7360]

You don’t think that’s what they want? The only way to get rid of a population that’s cheaper than starving them is to get them to kill each other.

[@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786]

@@johnwade1095 The social contract in the UK is between Parliament and the people. Although you could argue that since your government is failing to carry out the first duty of government the contract is broken and void,

[@johnwade1095]

@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786 There is no social contract. There is an expectation of good faith, but Gordan Brown pissed on that.

[@catbreath007]

Basically our leaders are 100% perfectly happy with the situation as it is despite all the talk otherwise 😳

[@benqurayza7872]

True, most of our ruling class in Europe and America feels no sense of urgency. Somebody needs to strap on some balls and sue the traffickers and NGO's responsible for this problem.

[@andylewis7360]

Quite so

[@andylewis7360]

@@benqurayza7872I don’t think you quite get it yet. We’re not breeding fast enough so they’re replacing us

[@jasminealixandranorth]

@@andylewis7360- Perish the thought!! 🤦‍♀️

[@jasminealixandranorth]

Let’s face it, Europe is doomed. I need a back up plan! 😩

[@fiorenzaattanasio4796]

I ALWAYS AGREE WITH DOUGLAS MURRAY…HE SPEAKS FOR ME ON EVERYTHING…HES BRILLIANT JUST BRILLIANT ❤

[@YMC1955]

One of, if not our best, thinkers of our age, I love to listen to him

[@loganjames3789]

(But he's a terrible snob on America's most popular political figure, President Trump.)

[@SilverSixpence888]

@@EmYT5678 He is superior to a lot of people.

[@pisces89]

@@EmYT5678 Intelligence is a superiority no matter who it is.

[@suzywong7067]

It is a question of fairness. UK taxpayers pay into society and, in return, receive certain benefits. When people illegally enter the country and are gifted benefits, funded by the taxpayers of that country, it causes huge resentment. In many cases they are gifted more benefits (24hr access to a doctor, 3* hotels with no energy bills to worry about). This is not racism. It would not matter whatever the ethnic background of the illegals. Would we react the same if the illegals were white, Christian Canadians? I am sure we would. We pay tax in expectation of a social contract with our Government that provides us with, not least, protection of our borders and a duty to spend the taxes that we pay wisely and fairly.

[@mattmichaela]

Douglas as ever is correct.

[@leonharrison800]

Douglas never correct. Just that his defenders are fools and the Left who he hates are imaginary

[@pisces89]

Always

[@jurassicthunder]

waiting for the haters replying right now 👇

[@desdicadoric]

It’s not impossible but you will notice every western liberal country is experiencing the same thing, at the same time, which tells me it’s all deliberate

[@russellwillmoth9734]

One would think enforcing borders, and the rights and responsibilities of citizens is government 101. If you can’t enforce your borders, and allow foreigners to cross the border and access free education, free healthcare, free housing the same as citizens, are you really a country?

[@paddymeboy]

Yes, of course you are. And the answer to the headline: if it's impossible to enforce the law it's usually because the law is just not realistic.

[@InqvisitorMagnvs]

The job of governments in Europe and North America is to replace their citizens, not protect their citizens.

[@Withwhatmytoes]

@@paddymeboyno that is not answer. The answer is to ignore bleeding hearts like yourself and to actively make you feel unwelcome and unsafe

[@ruthirwin8222]

And its harder for the resident white people to mot get hospital appt or their children into schools

[@Lurch685]

@@paddymeboyI sincerely hope all of your nightmares come true. You don’t deserve to live in peace or security.

[@roybradley764]

look to Poland and Hungary thats how you look after your people , god bless them

[@andylewis7360]

Polish and Hungarian political leaders value their countries’ culture. The same cannot be said for ours. Neither are they leaders by any recognisable interpretation of the word. They’re administrators. Perhaps even Receivers. As in Receivership or Administration.

[@MichaelKingsfordGray]

Which 'god'??

[@rexmundi7811]

Polish government officials are in the middle of a scandal. They granted 250,000 work permits to migrants from Asia and Africa in exchange for bribes. Hungary has started bringing in migrants from Asia too.

[@cptpepper7731]

Really? With a regime moving slowly towards totalitarianism and authoritarianism, curbing freedoms, using spytech to spy on rival politicians, taking over all the courts, eliminating free speech by either eliminating news channels and newspapers or simply getting rid of them. Sounds great, right?

[@tom4381]

​@@MichaelKingsfordGrayZzzzzz bore off

[@lallalucas4145]

Africa is a huge continent, there is plenty of room there. Britain is tiny. It's like moving out of a huge ranch to live in a cupboard under the stairs

[@julietkelly7215]

Well when Africa empty Brits can go there.

[@Justin-yt8zv]

​@@julietkelly7215beautiful continent in it's own right but it's not my home I'd rather be comfortable here tbh.

[@tom4381]

​@julietkelly7215 The last time we did that we were demonised for it, and we have never been able to live it down since.

[@Justin-yt8zv]

@@tom4381 one thing i sometimes don't get is for such an awful country and colonialism was so bad they sure do want to come and live under our rule so much 🤔 not being a colonial sympathiser but seems a bit of a logic error there. Leave us alone! But we want to move to your country in droves!

[@KathyPrendergast-cu5ci]

There’s no big government teat to feed off in Africa, however. It’s a beautiful continent but life is hard there, and human nature being what it is, when most people are offered the chance at an easier life, they will take it.

[@paulhevan322]

This is not the end but the beginning of the end 🫤 What political classes puts it's people last.?

[@andylewis7360]

The political classes who know there’s an end-game

[@christinaedwards5084]

@@andylewis7360are they that naive to think they won’t be affected by this, win or lose.

[@UKParadiseLost]

They don't work for us or our interests. They work for the WEF and push through THEIR agenda regardless of the irreparable harm it's doing to the people or their nations. We must REVOLT - all of us across Europe and the Five Eyes (UK, US, Australia, NZ and Canada). It is only OUR countries that are being deliberately and wantonly destroyed. We need to do it together en masse and we need to do it now. How we unite and go about it is the question. A General Strike AND non-payment of taxes would be a good start.

[@andylewis7360]

@@christinaedwards5084 They don’t expect to lose, or even entertain the possibility. They know their heads would be on pikes if they get it wrong. They’re accustomed to getting away with shit. All they need is Plausible Deniability.

[@jamesvdv0]

Why have laws at all, if our so called "Government" are not prepared to enforce them?

[@5578pedro]

Because the UK government are not people of substance, therefore unfit, as are Labour, for office.

[@jl9205]

They do, against those who are already the law abiding. That's why we're seeking anarcho-tyranny.

[@edwardgale4491]

Try to evade paying your taxes and you'll be surprised (or not) to find out how incredibly well prepared the government is to enforce the law. '

[@firstlast9916]

Government is the problem. Not the solution. Laws create problems that politicians discuss and create more laws to fix. Then more problems are created by the new laws which then make politicians create even more laws. It’s endless.

[@Kaztrofy]

Al Capone is famous for saying "Don't mistake my kindness for weakness". Europe needs to get their priorities straight.

[@kathwallace1811]

Douglas only voice of reason and truth.

[@harrietbaker4484]

Exactly! WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT ENFORCING THE LAW!!!

[@andylewis7360]

It’s hard to do what’s right when the incentive to wrong your own people is so strong

[@Steve-ho4xb]

It's hard to enforce the law when we have tied our hands behind our back with human rights laws. That's why is so hard to enforce the law. We need to leave the ECHR and the 1951 refugee convention and write our own bill of rights. If it was good enough to do it without leaving the ECHR etc...then why is our own bill of rights not good enough on its own? The whole situation is self inflicted and the politians know this. But, don't want to fix the problem.

[@annapachaclarke2392]

​@Steve-ho4xb Err, if that is the reason, then the human rights of native people are being severely abused!! You cannot have human rights for only one type of people!

[@drstrangelove4998]

Gadaffi had a solid grip on his coast and stopped ‘refugees‘. That is until Hillary Clinton, supported revolution which resulted in Gadaffi’s death and continuing chaos.

[@andylewis7360]

That’s a side issue. 200 boats in one day is an invasion. And invasions need to be repelled.

[@javlynblue2024]

By design

[@imammo867]

The idea to oust Gaddafi came from Sakortzy and David Cameron not the US

[@vickyingramnymann8543]

Any money sent to Africa will find itself in the pockets of leaders, NGOs and charities. Very little gets to the people.

[@bettytyrrell940]

Britain is bursting at the seams and the problem is becoming insurmountable.

[@kenhardy8405]

If the EU continues to move the migrants, mainly young men, into mainland Europe it will encourage more and more to make the journey.

[@michaelconnolly7681]

Douglas is so right. As usual.

[@incurableromantic4006]

And as usual - he'll be ignored.

[@metanoiate]

Listening to Douglas is always a treat. I think the real issue is the insurmountable chasm between evidence based discussion and lovely idealism. Europeans need to understand psychopaths prey on their wishful thinking. I'm south american, trust me, I should know...

[@jesperburns]

Half our population knows, but the other half are bleeding heart leftists. They'd rather die than lose their virtue.

[@jenster29]

We know. There are plenty of us European completely frustrated with our people for encouraging and defending all this. We get labelled all kinds of nasty things and it has worked until now.. but being called a racist or nazi is just laughable now.

[@burleybater]

Compare the career and ongoing life adventure of Aayan Hirsi Ali in The Netherlands (as an immigrant, student, member of Parliament) until she finally had to flee the land for her own safety. For contrast, pick any African or Middle Eastern young male Muslim immigrant, who refuses to integrate. Multiply this example by many hundreds of thousands. Imagine the utter chaos emanating from these ghetto communities, no-go zones. How many more decades of this mayhem before we wind up with an indigenous population that refuses tolerance for, or acceptance of an invasion that has taken over their homeland?

[@navylaks2]

Actually Mr Murray it was way worse for Inger Støjberg here in Denmark, the reason she was prosecuted was because she refused to have old men be with their child brides on Danish soil (many immigrants from Muhammadan countries have child brides), that's right she upheld the law of the land which is that Paedophilia is a crime, and for that she got convicted.

[@mikemines2931]

Unbelievable.

[@navylaks2]

Yes I know @@mikemines2931

[@theshipoffools]

I think I just broke my neck from my head spinning so hard in reaction to that tidbit of info.

[@CorvusHyperion]

Here in Australia we put an end to this almost overnight by turning boats around and ending the right to come to the mainland. There are quite literally billions of people who meet the criteria of wanting a better life who would arrive if they could. BILLIONS.

[@cosettapessa6417]

If we did that in italy there would be cries of genocide in 3 minutes 😂

[@kingofracism]

Our problem is not necessarily boat people though. The real problem is legal migration

[@CorvusHyperion]

We could easily have a boat people problem (and we did until that was sorted) but you are right, far too many legal migrants now. @@kingofracism

[@kingofracism]

@@CorvusHyperion I'll tell you the truth; nothing is going to happen about the demographic situation in Europe because these "right wing" types do not have a radical bone in their body. Honestly Europeans do not have it in us anymore to properly deal with the situation we face. Too worried about being called a Nazi and racist I swear😂

[@madplanet3351]

To enforce the law first you have to want to enforce the law.

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

You have to be prepared to accept the consequences of doing so and they make come at a very high price.

[@madplanet3351]

@@jjefferyworboys8138 against France? I don't think so. They'll throw their toys out of the pram but things will settle down. Failing that do nothing and let them flood in.

[@kingofracism]

​@@jjefferyworboys8138good. Europeans need to suffer a little bit

[@Dabhach1]

Speaking in my capacity as an on-line know-all, it's NOT impossible to enforce the law. All it takes is a government with a spine. There are many islands and isolated areas in Europe (and plenty off islands off the UK shoreline) and there's nothing to stop governments building camps there to hold these people. Give them the choice to stay there until their individual cases are processed, however long that takes, or get a trip home on the taxpayer (that would still be much cheaper than housing them in hotels). If you stand your ground and keep building and filling these camps, it won't be long before the migrants -- who are nearly all economic -- get the message and will stop coming. By the way, the NGOs ARE people smugglers.

[@Catherine-u8l]

How about not accepting them at all? Most won’t/ can’t assimilate into Western culture as we’ve no shortage of evidence proving this.

[@thehammer9599]

Our western governments are not lacking a spine. They are in fact doing exactly what they intended. They allow this invasion to (a) provide cheap labour for their corporate donors. Root cause - corporatism. (b) shore up the failing welfare states of Europe (new ‘tax-payers’). Root cause - feminism. (c) break the nation state in preparation for globalism. Root cause - socialism.

[@firstlast9916]

“Processing” is usually a life sentence with current immigration laws.

[@Dabhach1]

@firstlast9916 Then don't come. Almost all migrants are economic, not political. The fact that the economies they're leaving are harsh is their problem. People in the Northern hemisphere are not white saviours.

[@just-me-where-ever-ek8kp]

Of course it’s not impossible to enforce “The Law”, all it takes is the political Will and Integrity by Politicians, that, friends, might be hard to come by.

[@stepheneurosailor1623]

It's obvious to me it's planned. What we are witnessing has nothing to do with what political party is in government. The moral, cultural, and economic decline that we are experiencing is not the result of stupidity. This decline is deliberate, meticulously planned, and well-executed. All over the West simultaneously. Anyone who thinks we can work within this contorted system to peacefully redress our grievances is seriously delusional

[@lulabellegnostic8402]

Something is only a “human right” when it does not conflict with the rights of others.

[@annapachaclarke2392]

Exactly!

[@simonwolfe529]

love Douglas Murray, he speaks soooo much sense !!!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@whitelines3097]

This only the beginning, millions are on the move The strange death of Europe right in front of our eyes

[@keithlear9100]

It is a pity our politicians aren’t like that Polish man, and the philosophy that a nation’s laws comes above everything else. That is how sovereign nations should operate. Instead we have a bunch of spineless creeps who have no respect for this country

[@julietkelly7215]

That's because we are not. Also, our Sovereign is in favour of whats happening.

[@lesleywild8706]

The recent influx is a worry for Europe too as even a dripping tap does a lot of damage.

[@5578pedro]

Very true.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Cindy says that 70% of Hong Kongers holding degrees, speak English, just sell the Hong Kong flats and buy a London Apartment. They are essentially British (because we were there a quarter of a century ago). 20 minutes later she is in Leeds with Hong Kongers who can't speak English, don't have degrees and are in need of Tax Payers assistance. No mention that they will obviously be setting up a China Town in Leeds where it will be possible to function in Cantonese with no English. Of course the Hong Kong Triads will have remained in Hong Kong. None of them will be CCP spies or susceptible to pressure from the CCP to assist the CCP.

[@ballenboy]

It is true that the demographics are just going up in Africa. Good thing it is a big continent and we should remind any people wanting to come to Europe that Africa is big enough for all of them. Stay there.

[@andylewis7360]

You presuppose that they’re not being encouraged by the very people who’s job it is to safeguard our welfare and security

[@angelamckavanagh4696]

Here’s a thought, did they all watch desperate housewives and think I want a house like that.

[@marleneclough3173]

They won't stay there. They all want to come to Europe billions of them. The population increase is unbelievable

[@ericatkinson9285]

Quite right but the trouble is there is no one in Africa to look after the Africans, they need white people to do that

[@soohz]

Douglas, we need you as PM please.

[@Steve-ho4xb]

An advisor to any PM for sure!!

[@simoneweidinger]

Great conversation, please continue it with more time.

[@disappointedenglishman98]

Cindy Yu doesn't see why the English should remain in a majority in England.... Hmm - who could have guessed?

[@5578pedro]

Very informative.

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

You just have to think of the reverse, think of an African country for example, like Sudan , or Ethiopia, or any of them, and say well, you can’t have your Own people as a majority yoy have to taken a certain number from European countries and Asian countries

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

I would think there’s other countries from Africa, or Asia would definitely not want that

[@nicolaperren9493]

We in Europe were told ' don't have big families, it's not good for the environment' but they keep having babies! I'm sickened now to think I listened to them! 😡😡😡

[@incurableromantic4006]

Murray put his finger on it when he said that the numbers who want to come are effectively infinite: and the more we take the more will come. I don't want Europe to turn into Africa - and the elites clearly do want that.

[@EnteleiEchein]

These people flee their countries yet cannot escape themselves. You simply cannot escape your own mindset - and your mindset is the main cause of your reality. Highly intelligent people like Douglas are the true and only minority in the world, everybody else ist mostly a victim of his own ego. Greetings from a Croatian.

[@editfazekas3854]

Hear hear!

[@ianramage1593]

I agree wholeheartedly with Douglas Murray. Preventing or at least slowing illegal migration is not an insoluable problem. There simply isn't any political will to ameliorate the situation. I don't know why that is. Perhaps, as Douglas suggested, politicians fear the repurcussions of being tough on illegal migration. Voters need to make their displeasure known at the ballot box before their standards of living erode any further.

[@thorinhannahs4614]

I mean large amounts of immigration is a clever way to tear down a government. The strain placed on the people and government is effective and tolerable as the strain is masked as good will. Politicians are run by private interests and sell to the masses. How many politicians would turn down ruling a country or the world if offered?

[@paulcolburn3855]

Voters DID make their displeasure known. That was called Brexit. And the "elites" are doing all that they can do undermine the will of voters.

[@leonardgibney2997]

We know where they're eventually headed. Italy needn't worry. We have massively underestimated the numbers coming? Enoch Powell asked the question in 1968, "where will it end?" We still ask.

[@johnmercer3571]

Could it be that international law - like the UN Migration Pact that Theresa May signed, despite being elected on a mandate to protect Britain’s borders - takes precedence over UK law?

[@bewilderedbrit8928]

Don't be a far right ism and phobia 😡 Ignore your lying eyes.

[@JohnDoe-nb2np]

Brilliant conversation. If Europe doesn’t get a handle on this European society is finished.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

We destroyed ourselves when Britain declared war on Germany as it was heading East completely in the opposite direction to us.

[@kingofracism]

​@@evolassunglasses4673agreed. I think about this so much now. Shame on us for helping defeat Germany. I so badly wish Germany won and occupied Britian. I wish we were speaking German right now. Shame on us.

[@happystarhappystar1477]

I speak Italian well enough to know that Meloni said recently that if they can break the mafia they can break the dinghy business, maybe it was just talk as the migrants are now on the mainland

[@andylewis7360]

It certainly seems that way. She’s in a tough situation with Germany and EU not playing ball but if I were her and wanted to walk the talk I’d move mountains to stop them getting to the mainland. This is the first test of her resolve and she doesn’t seem to be doing well.

[@happystarhappystar1477]

@@andylewis7360 Giorgia Meloni is charging them money now, taking the p for all the right reasons. Italians are even more patriotic than us far-righters, more verbal than us, so let the games begin.

[@andylewis7360]

@@happystarhappystar1477 Taking the p out of whom, though?

[@fabiesque]

Douglas is a giant of british intelligence

[@TheodoreDane]

Dispand the UN, problem solved.

[@booth2710]

the biggest bother causing organisation that ever existed

[@andylewis7360]

And deprive leaders the world over of their shot at being the first President of the World? Not a hope.

[@Tamar-sz8ox]

Every organization on the planet needs to adapt and adjust The UN and the EU will be definitely be challenged Countries will start to show their individuality and “ rise up “ The biggest need is finding the balance of how much do I give and how much do I receive ? Even astrology has been talking about this for some time now

[@moodyonroody5313]

@@Tamar-sz8ox astrology?????

[@Tamar-sz8ox]

Yes Astrology as in the first master astrologer Avraham the Patriarch who wrote the book of formation , Sefer yetzirah . Not talking about the pop culture astrology. Unfortunately ancient wisdom has been watered down

[@maxeisert7466]

If you don't pay your taxes you will experience how easy it is to enforce the law.

[@jonewen9741]

Douglas is right on.

[@stephenphilbin3919]

18:00 I'd happily call someone from Hong Kong British, if that's how they thought of themself. I think it's odd that a fellow Brit might not. I think of Britishness as being just as much an attitude to life, as it is anything to do with your nationality. The United Kingdom is full of people who I don't consider British, because *they* don't consider themselves British-regardless of whether or not they were born here.

[@andylewis7360]

Not just odd. Insidious.

[@andylewis7360]

@@emissary_of_aldebaranI agree about the pessimistic outcomes. But it’s all a matter of perspective. What’s pessimistic for native Brits and those who feel British may be optimistic for those who stand to benefit. Most notably those in Westminster The City of London Geneva Brussels and Davos.

[@stephenphilbin3919]

@@emissary_of_aldebaran Nonsense. Any Hong Konger who sees themself as British, is already much more entitled to refer to themself as such, than huge numbers of people who were born here but choose to remain in self-segregated colonies. We have lots of divides in the country, just as any country does, but none of it matters compared to things like support for an impartial justice system that doesn't care who you are, what your job is, or what-if any-religion you follow.

[@christinaedwards5084]

So if you went to live in hongkong or anywhere else would you relinquish your British identity? I assure you the people that do come here still keep their national identity, it’s who they are. They only take the term ‘British’ for a passport and financial benefits. Outside of that they remain who they are. Did you not see the 3rd generation Indian woman talking about “back home in India” despite her being British her whole life. You’re more than where your born, you can take a Pakistani out of pakistan, but you can’t take the Pakistani out of them. Same with every other nation of people.

[@stephenphilbin3919]

@@emissary_of_aldebaran No, you're just talking like someone who thinks that Socialism and National Socialism aren't rooted in total horse 💩. Without any kind of stratification, no society/nation could ever develop. To say that a nation is stratified is simply an acknowledgement of its existence; what matters about the stratification is its structure and its maintenance (or lack of maintenance like we have today). What you say about ethnicity has me curious, though. Which of the following would you consider to be more British? 1) Someone who's ethnically British, but subscribes to a religious sect which promotes the subjugation and brutal mistreatment of anyone of any age who is not a member of that sect. 2) A British-born ethnic Arab, who believes that people must be treated equally by the law, regardless of their religion, and that the law takes precedence over any religious law whenever the two come into conflict.

[@russellwillmoth9734]

NGOs are a part of the smugglers network. The smugglers tell the NGOs where the immigrant boats are, and the NGOs collect them. The people smugglers then make contributions to the NGOs.

[@bernie4268]

If they aren’t legal, send them back. Give them an application form and tell them to join the queue.

[@yomarrobert]

Then close the queue.

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

And you think they would do that just fill out an application form and join the queue to go back, no, there needs to be a little force applied in law behind it consequences

[@kingofracism]

Pathetic. Even if we deported every single illegal migrant, we would still become a minority within our own nation. Legal migration is 1,000,000x worse for us than illegal migration.

[@duncansmith7562]

Douglas is confused about the laws on immigration (there is no one law on immigration).. Contradictory though it is, a migrant can arrive in the UK with no documentation, claim asylum, and that is legal (hence no migrants are arrested in Dover). Until that law is changed, the law on entering a country illegally (without valid documentation) is irrelevant.

[@lr6477]

Wrong. They aren't arrested because of the sheers numbers, not enough jails

[@duncansmith7562]

@@lr6477 In law it is only permitted to seek asylum once in the UK, whatever the means of arrival, so even if there were prisons aplenty, the migrants would be allowed to claim asylum and stay. Unless that law is changed, the arrivals will keep increasing. It's that simple. It neds to be reversed, namely, asylum in the UK can ONLY be claimed outside the UK, and those arriving with no valid documentation will be deported immediately and stripped of all valuables to pay for such service.

[@elizabethanthony3916]

​@@duncansmith7562👍👏👏👏👏

[@jasoncornell1579]

Israel showed us with Gaza that u can keep a border u just need enough determination and bullets

[@andylewis7360]

Ahh but Israel gets a pass, just as the Gulf States do. Doesn’t that make you wonder why they are so special? Poland and Hungary seem to have the right idea

[@gerrytyrrell1507]

Long live Israel...Ireland

[@scg7092]

15:35 - Douglas: "...we have massively overestimated our ability to integrate people..." I think, the problem goes deeper. Our mistake was to ignore that integration is an *active process*, much like learning. One could "be welcomed" (like a guest). But one cannot "be integrated", only integrate oneself. If you don't want to learn a language, culture, system of norms, traditions, values and laws etc., then nobody can teach you. But integrating is hard and all incentives for it are undermined, when you can simply join your own foreign enclave.

[@lynclarke6184]

Great questions and great answers albeit very concerning.

[@Pan_Z]

The idea that national leaders can't even enforce their borders, due to punitive actions taken by international forces above them, is frightening indeed.

[@Kittykat4457-g7h]

In my experience of dealing with people from Hong Kong, they are educated and respectful people, they try their best to speak English and they’re incredibly polite during those moments where communication is difficult…it make a difference…they are either independently wealthy or fully intending to be useful members of society! They don’t just turn up illegally, with no money and no plan…no ability to support or provide for themselves

[@777mantikor]

Very good discussion.

[@jameskinsella598]

Everyone should watch this - so TRUE.

[@davidcoleman2796]

Razor wire , guard dogs and bullets . Im sorry but they are the only answer. It's the roll of the dice where you are born . . I was born in Canada. We are so lucky here . ( even with the dictatorship we have )

[@scg7092]

Chris: "I assume one wants to perpetuate the culture of Europe, rather than..." Douglas: "Don't assume that, Chris! Don't assume that." ... replace it? SPOT ON. Please discuss replacement migration next time as well as the positions of the UN and the WEF towards it.

[@jenniferbate9682]

Douglas Murray, we need you for PM. Please!

[@S_Edward_Burns_ArtsEditor]

My thanks to each. Carry on!

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

I can imagine that people moving from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom besides mostly being educated, having university degrees, many of them also have traveled internationally and have more of a globally mindset. Even if they aren’t well off, they may have friends or neighbors that have travelled to different countries, or have talked about the news in different countries, and so they can easily integrate into another country and they’re willing to work, or perhaps set up their own business or entrepreneurship and contribute to their new country in many ways.

[@ghostlyimageoffear6210]

No. My hometown in the US is being colonized by Asians, and the Chinese have some off-putting and rude ways.

[@kingofracism]

I couldn't care less of their education level. Migrants could be objectively superior in every single way to Britons, and I still wouldn't want them here. You're part of the problem.

[@lesleywild8706]

We have the World Wide Web to thank for educating everyone as to life around the globe and the fact that we have been saving life in the Third World with modern medicine and foreign aid for decades and so their population has increased and is now out of control.

[@angelamckavanagh4696]

We also had the Catholic Church 😮

[@mrjones7222]

Praise Jesus for Murray👏🎁

[@iainrae6159]

Douglas does not believe in a 'supernatural ' son of God type Jesus.

[@lapun47]

Just turn the boats back.

[@Fulkumnuts]

Great content no interrupting

[@magisterdamask9015]

Caldwell's the best. No over-emoting, no exaggerations, just cold, brutal facts.

[@TheSecurdisc]

It would appear a great number of Politicians ask the public to vote for them stating they are Mr. Hyde, then once they are in power they change their name to Dr. Jekyll. 🇬🇧

[@alsmith9853]

Other way around but you're essentially correct

[@bampitony6108]

Where in Europe will it kick off first.. There's a reason why Governments are letting their country's be over run with opposite cultures.. Look at South Africa and be afraid very afraid.. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@KolyaNickD]

The channel migrants could be taken straight to the Minquiers island 9 miles south of Jersey. This is british territory and uninhabited - they can be deposited there until they get back in their boat and go back to france 5 miles away. If they are less cooperative then they can be deposited on the nearby sandbank instead - they'll be back in their boat when the tide comes up.

[@WhiteRacismSurvivor]

We need a National Tackling Antiwhiteism Action Plan

[@Bolaniullen]

why does nobody look into what Ghaddafi was doing to keep the flow relatively low all those years? because we all know, and we cant do anything like that or people will call us mean names

[@billbadson7598]

It's an ocean. Sink the boats. After the first few, caught on video and broadcast worldwide, the influx will slow to a manageable level.

[@crzxr]

Once these people have arrived and 'settled' in the countries that they have selected for themselves (their choice being unimpeded, demonstrably, by their hapless 'host' country), they seem to do nothing but make further problems and can only sing the praises of their home country, their 'heritage' - notwithstanding the fact that these are the very places they clearly thought so intolerable that they had to leave them. If those who dissent from the regimes that they claim are oppressing them (the only legitimate basis for claim to asylum elsewhere) simply leave and relocate, their home countries will never improve. It is their patriotic duty to resist oppression and improve their own states - of which they never cease being proud. People say these refugees are resilient and courageous - but they are all apparently in flight from challenges, opting for a soft-touch easier life, usually at someone else's expense.

[@peterbettell1361]

Brilliant Douglas as usual telling the truth stating the facts

[@davesmith6002]

It's not impossible, they just don't want to do it, all the main stream parties are the same.

[@VelkePivo]

Europe is doomed. Absolutely tragic.

[@EthanKnight97]

The Great Replacement is definitely not happening.

[@johnwade1095]

Indeed. This is the shit replacement.

[@andylewis7360]

@@johnwade1095I wish. Wait til it’s 200 boats a day, every day

[@lr6477]

If we sit back and allow it we deserve replacement

[@julietkelly7215]

​@@lr6477Agree. Time to rally i think.

[@lr6477]

The time was ten years ago. These people are now passport carrying and multiplying welfare bludgers

[@jl9205]

If you're being invaded, one could consider sinking those NGO boats...just a thought.

[@MrZoomZone]

Talk talk talk.... action is needed for once.

[@kimwiser445]

Hilary Clinton’s Middle East policy has had horrible ramifications.

[@mrjones7222]

15:46 Murray so funny but terribly right👏👏

[@hollismallory2757]

Great…. Remind me to scratch Italy off my list of awesome places to visit

[@assyriannahrin]

Love #Douglas_Murray

[@ChiaraDBrown]

I was in Florence not that long ago and there were what appeared to be Pakistani vendors aggressively hawking these flying light toys in Piazza del Duomo. It was just so out of the character of the place to have people pursuing us and trying to get our kids to nag us to buy their toy, it was jarring. I wanted to tell them "this is not Italian!!!"

[@nioengland]

The absurdity of FC censorship.. Having to jitter around the edges instead of just speaking openly and directly

[@alandee007]

They are like Locusts they destroy everything in their path and move on.

[@reisekeller6859]

The last time the "first world" tried to help Africa... they cried colonialism. Arm the border with military!

[@normansidey5258]

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but here’s a thought, a politician comes to power who is not following the WEF narrative, they need teaching a lesson as to who really is in power, so take the biggest issue that brought the politician to power, in this instance let us say Immigration, let’s organise an invasion of such proportion that shows who is in control.

[@codinghusky5196]

Here's the fact: the ONLY European politician enforcing his country's laws and politics is Viktor Orban. I mean, like it or not; he's not my favourite person in the world either; but that's how it's been for over a decade now. I mean separating people fleeing famine from people just wanting a bit higher standard, let's go back and ask WHY do people have the luxury to FLEE famine? Why don't Germans and Ukranians and Russians just flee famine and come to the USA instead of planting all that stuff for feeding themselves? Yes I realize Africa is not ideal for the crops but neither is Siberia nor the northern belt. Developing Africa from outside? How MUCH should you actually develop it for people to be happy enbough not to leave? I wager if EU develops it enough to surpass Japan, but without local population having to do any work, just existing on European funds, they might all be happy enough to not invade Italy? Or will a substantial part of population say "ok so now we have everything and we're educated but we're bored, we want to go to Europe anyway"? I'm sorry but this is all bloody nonsense. Pack them up and send them home, I'm sorry. I'm not from the most developed part of the world either and I've been looking to re-locate more than once; still looking, I've been on a work visa in the USA, I've had some opportunities for work in countries of the EU, turns out I'm a total idiot - I should've just spent some more time in the sun to darken up my skin, walked in and played stupid. Why'd I work in a country where working class sees a smartphone as a luxury when I could just live off welfare in a country in which homeless people mock me for having an android instead of an iPhone (yes, I've literally, LITERALLY had that happen to me in Norway)? Oi.

[@grahamthacker6498]

It is not impossible, all part of the plan.