I Don’t Want to See the Chicago Bulls Tank; Here’s Why

Discussing why the Bulls should NOT look to tank and the reasons why it would be a mistake to go that route
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[@knection1986]

Nobody who is calling for a tank is planning on watching the product for a few years.

[@BullsCentral]

Exactly, but unlike those people, I’m still gonna watch. Which is why I don’t want to go through it….again

[@knection1986]

@@BullsCentral Yeah I didn't watch the product when we traded Jimmy away until we picked up Vuc. The very second we picked up Vuc I started watching because AKME signaled to me they were wanting to win.

[@balthorpayne]

Thats a fact. Jerian Grant, Paul Zipser, and Cam Payne stick out in my mind why tanking is garbage and I don't like the idea of "Are we good yet? ok now I will watch" fandom.

[@user-te7no3ut2r]

At least it a be some hope .

[@ikez78]

@@BullsCentral​​⁠tanking you at least have a possible path to improve. As is you do not.

[@brandonjones3843]

Rebuild by trading veteran players for young players and draft picks. But we know the owner won't do that. He'll just keep milking this cow until it's dry and it's to late

[@BrotherDominick1]

A Bulls rebuild happens like once every 10 years, and then that 10 years is spent milking the purgatory

[@bmla88]

This is a bad take. In 3 years into the tank you’ll complain they aren’t good.

[@clintjefferson4391]

@@bmla88 That's a fact. Fan don't have the patience for a rebuild.

[@chitownsports5572]

Look, I get not wanting to fully tank, and everyone always says we can “retool” without any actual plan of how to accomplish that. What options do the Bulls have, trading Zach, but still not going to have tons of cap space to sign big FA. We really wanna build a team around Derozan and Vuc? How can this team even get up to top 6th in the East. Sorry, but a youth movement is absolutely needed, and running it back without Zach is a bad strategy

[@GamesSucks2023]

This! It also means trading AC now and if white keeps getting better trading him to cash in on his value. Nice players neither are a batman or Robin. Good for contenders bad for pretenders like the bulls. You build around superstars not very good role players. Superstars don't chase role players, role players chase Superstars and rings.

[@clintjefferson4391]

Can it be both?

[@user-te7no3ut2r]

You don't have to tank to rebuild. No superstar is coming to play for this organization. The only hope is getting a superstar player out the draft.

[@ramonperez1340]

Or trading for a superstar

[@stepmamic787]

@@ramonperez1340 We lack the flexibility and assets to do that.

[@anthonycasso8279]

Chicago is the most unattractive landing spot for super star free agents. Mainly because the organization has a reputation for having one of the worst front offices in all of sports. They keep people who should of been fired.

[@juanacosta4328]

NEVER cultivate a losing mentality. That alone is why you should never tank. Also, tanking does not mean trading players to make adjustments in order to address the team’s flaws. It frustrates me to see many bulls fans conflate the two and/or try to promote tanking in hopes of MAYBE drafting a generational talent. When the reality is that the NBA’s lottery structure purposely takes that into account so teams are not actively losing, meaning that you still land with a small chance to even get high draft pick.

[@TheBehnny]

Rebuilding through the draft is the only way to fix this mess. Your argument is very short sided: Just because you don’t want to watch bad basketball for a few years so then the team will be forever mid

[@jtwilliams8895]

Plus this team is only barely mid. They’re much closer to being bad than being very good. The Bulls will probably have to start next season with Lavine to try and rebuild some trade value for him, because I don’t think any team is going to take on that contract right now, period. It’s looking pretty bleak for the foreseeable future. Thanks AKME

[@PatchesOhoulihan159]

Thank you for telling it like it is. This guy gave a horrible take

[@BullsCentral]

Shooting in the dark and hoping to get lucky in the draft instead of actually developing a strategy with critical thinking is a loser approach to take

[@jaycee11145]

Lol, you are correct, no superstar is just gonna magically end up on the bulls for us to build around. And no offense, I love coby and ayo but they're not franchise level players that will lead you to a chip. The last one we had was butler

[@cyrus2546]

Preach. Dude doesn’t get it. He’d rather go 44-38 and get knock out in the first round. Meanwhile we watch Jimmy take the Heat to the Finals every other year.

[@AstralScourge]

Bulls aren't doing anything until the Reisndorfs are no longer the owners. Next draft with Flagg, Boozer and others are worth tanking for

[@user-te7no3ut2r]

Yeah this like one of the worst organizations ever. Imagine if we didn't have Jordan. And they found a way to F that up .

[@PatchesOhoulihan159]

Agreed

[@arteksta1943]

The goal is to win championships. Watching the playoffs this year the Bulls are so far behind the good teams I don’t see how they stay “competitive” without rebuilding

[@clintjefferson4391]

Fully healthy the Bulls can beat the Knicks and Pacers.

[@kylewubz8713]

Building through the middle never works. You need to set yourself up to be lucky in the draft. Nothing is certain, but it’s obvious this team won’t even crack the play-in for years. In the short term it will be painful, but so is this current team. You have to atleast TRY to get a franchise player. Anything less is accepting mediocrity - You and Ownership are clearly in agreement, which is just sad. You blast ownership all the time, yet you are submissing to their plans and are OK with it. Simply too afraid to make changes.

[@PatchesOhoulihan159]

Exactly. He fumbled on this video

[@BullsCentral]

No one said rebuild through the middle. Think outside the box, address wholes in the roster. Throwing your hands up and just hoping to get lucky is not a strategy

[@Adog00]

100% agree !!

[@adrianMask]

i guess the question we should ask is demar worth a top ten pick next year? i think not

[@MRTHUMBSUP86]

I think the best route would be a combination of both. Tank for the upcoming season then look to add to the talent you have at that point if you are able to unload Zach, DeMar and Vuc. Keeping a top 10 pick in a projected deep draft can really help change the outlook of this franchise

[@jaycee11145]

They should tank this season so we can keep our damn pick. The mid 3 need to go, doesn't matter if we get pennies for lavine or vooch, demar might fetch us some haul but those 3 need to go

[@noni9399]

I hate when people say the Bulls' front office doesn't have a plan, they do and have said so in press conferences. Just because we don't agree with the 'continuity' and 'building around the edges' plan. I'm most worried about Patrick Williams, these injuries are piling up for him. I don't think we will win in a long time if we tank again.

[@Yocara]

Tank, Tank and Tank !!

[@ki2726]

Tanking guarantees you nothing. Just look at the Pistons.

[@ikez78]

@@ki2726tanking you at least have a possible path to improve. As is you do not.

[@PatchesOhoulihan159]

How about you look at the T Wolves and Thunder ​@@ikez78

[@PatchesOhoulihan159]

Agreed 👍

[@cyrus2546]

@@ki2726What about Dallas getting luka? Minnesota getting Ant? Philly getting Embid? You don’t even want to fucking try. Is your last name Reinsdorf?

[@MikloFumando]

Tanking is NOT it. It’s not even a question.

[@peterg2914]

I would like to see a major change and by that I mean treading veterans : Voch, Demar and Zach, because if they are back then not much will change.

[@dxtwiins21]

I’m not sure if “working with what we have” will work. Even by trading Lavine, what would we actually get in return? With this current bulls roster we have seen what they could do, and that’s be a play in team. With Lonzo we were number 1 but who knows if he comes back the same, and it would be an unfair assessment on his part to say that he will. I don’t want to watch the bulls tank, but i think it would be better if we did. We tried to rebuild for approximately 2-3 years before trading for Vuc then trying to compete again…

[@Klutch_Undercover]

Normally I would say do not tank but you have to consider that if we are outside of the top 10 next season, we lose our pick all together. We need to be bad enough and that has to be something we consider very heavily

[@maltvegas8567]

So you’re saying that the bulls should purposely not have a top 10 pick because the front office is bad at drafting????

[@chizzyxv3408]

You can stumble on a top 10 pick without tanking, it isn't a guarantee regardless. Being bad at drafting is an point of concern but you don't have to put yourself in that predicament of drafting and developing someone b that's not gonna work out

[@maltvegas8567]

@@chizzyxv3408 but why would you risk losing your pick to watch demar derozan play basketball. Why?????

[@chizzyxv3408]

@@maltvegas8567 you wouldn't. That's only if you trade it away for a win now piece. Which would also probably include demar and or LaVine depending who you get.

[@jaycee11145]

Lmao, he like most bulls fans will do anything to be somewhat competitive aka not tank or just making the playins just so they don't have to watch bad basketball. Just a bad take Look at the bears and hawks, hawks got bedard who is already looking like a stud and hopefully caleb williams pans out especially with the talent surrounding him. Videos are reddit.level worthy of cringe. Sad shit

[@chizzyxv3408]

@@jaycee11145 we don't necessarily want competitive basketball, every fanbase does but realistically our ceiling has been middle of the pack for the last 7-8 years. Prior to 2022 we JUST got out of a rebuilding stage. We tired of seeing the bulls be bad when they don't have to be, and what the last year has shown is that we would thrive so much more had we just had better pieces to better assist Coby Ayo etc. plus it doesn't make sense to start a rebuild this year with the draft being considered "weak" versus just getting pieces that don't serve the team well

[@Volantredx]

This is going to sound crazy but the idea of building a "title contender" is almost as much of a crap shoot as trying to win in the lotto year after year. Some of the best teams in the league who were built to win titles are already out. Meanwhile the only team people looked at the start of the postseason and said "yeah they're going to win the title" that are still in it are the Celtics and maybe the Wolves. The Mavs were seen as an afterthought who would need a ton of luck to get to the finals, and the Pacers weren't expected to make it out of the first round. The teams that win titles aren't the teams that get a bunch of generational stars who all click at the same time. Historically, and recently, the way to win is to get one guy whose game fits with the guys around him and then add the talent needed to push him to the top. You'd think this would be well known in Chicago seeing as that's how MJ won 6 rings. The Bulls don't need 3 top 3 picks. They need one guy, who could come from anywhere (Gannis, Steph, Hali, Brunson, Jokic all were not top picks) and they need to build around that guy. Right now the Bulls don't have that guy, but if they go full tank even if they got that guy they'd have trash around him that it'd take years to undo that and build back up. Detroit has a guy who is at this point just totally mentally broken. The Hornets have had a lot of health issues but even if they didn't that team was never going anywhere. The Jazz lucked into Lauri turning everything around and they're still in the bottom of the well. Hell, even the 6ers arguably never got over the process era as even when they got their top guys most were out of the league or off the team a few seasons later and Embiid is now on a whole new roster which isn't about building through the draft. What the Bulls should look to do is move off the vets, see what the young guys can do on their own with the new coaching staff, and honestly, maybe Coby might turn out to be that guy. Weirder success stories have happened. Brunson was seen as a 3rd option on a good team sort of guy two seasons ago and now he's the best player the Knicks have had in decades because he was in a system that worked with him. The only way we find that out is by taking the training wheels off them and letting them try, and not worry about getting the number one pick.

[@BullsCentral]

I honestly agree with this take. Building a championship contender is a bit of a crap shoot as well. Like the lottery, you also have to get lucky when it comes to injuries(staying healthy on your own team and injuries to your opponent) and hoping you face the right match ups in the playoffs

[@mistermcman2243]

If we blow it up and tank now then we might have chance at the number 1 pick next year which is cooper Flagg. I’d rather win 15 games and get him than have another mediocre season

[@jaycee11145]

You can't say that to bulls fans and this delusional youtuber, oh no, you will get crucified because that means they will have to watch bad basketball

[@CrixDeveloper]

Honestly, if the Bulls are just good enough to win 35-40 games, then I see no point in losing our pick for that. Top 10 protected is actually something easy for the Bulls with the current state of the roster. If you are just good enough to be a mediocre team, then you should have picks in the draft, that is just how the league works.

[@jeffbartlett8565]

Can't agree more, plus develop players, find players that are a better fit, change the culture and find a mega star, or develop one and then the foundation is in place to compete for championships - if it was easy Chicago, Lakers, Rockets, and New York, for examples, would still be competing, however it's not as difficult as Chicago is making it

[@thomasgouin3519]

I agree

[@josemariatorresramos7846]

Muy muy de acuerdo con lo que dice este tío. Mira que yo quiero que el proyecto se rompa cuanto antes y que los jugadores que tienen algo de futuro se queden, pero hay que cambiar cosas para que todo vaya a mejor.

[@MoonBounce89]

You mentioned you had been working on the other basketball channel, and I went to watch some videos, 60k followers and growing! Amazing stuff dude, keep it up! Been watching since the early days of bulls central 🎉 @bullscentral

[@BullsCentral]

Appreciate it my man! Means a lot 🙏

[@MoonBounce89]

@@BullsCentral of course! You're one of my favorite nba media sources not just for our beloved bulls! Keep it up dude!

[@Philly2tall]

Need to keep next years pick. I support the youth movement. I hate rebuilds by the way. Vooch and DeMar should go to win now teams. Lavine too

[@billmarcondesmachado280]

I agree with not tanking. But the Bulls management needs to learn and change strategy. Let the young players show what they can do. Look what happened to players this team traded: Derrick Jones, Markkanen, Gafford, etc. So trade away whoever wants to leave but keep the young talented players who want to make a name for themselves and win.

[@waxmonkey14]

I agree and disagree, I think the bulls should go the route the Mavs did last season. Tank enough so we retain our top 10 pick in the 2025 draft and the use the assets we got from trading Zach and Vuc and Caruso to trigger a new win now scenario similarly to what we did in the 2020 offseason.

[@BullsCentral]

Yeah, but the Bulls aren’t in the same position in terms of the number of assets available to them compared to what the Mavs have/had

[@silver33]

I don't want them to tank either, but the roster needs to change.

[@BullsCentral]

Agreed on that

[@cyrus2546]

We need Sam Hinkie. What he did in Philly disproves literally everything you said here. He tanked so hard and shamelessly that it pretty much guaranteed getting a superstar in the draft. It cam be dome if you’re willing to commit. The 76ers went from being a joke in 2014-2017 to being a serious team from 2018-now. If not for their front office’s historically moronic decision to pay Tobias Harris instead of Jimmy Butler they might have a 4th championship banner hanging in the rafters right now.

[@221ddj]

The biggest weakness is ownership. They are 100% focused on their pockets, with little to no concern for having a good team. As a result, the GM has to piece together a good team with very little backing for making a splash. They move to be good enough to fill seats, not filling up the rafters.

[@bmla88]

Rebuilding and tanking is not a direction.

[@BullsCentral]

Rebuilding is a direction when it’s the right time. Tanking is just shooting in the dark hoping to get lucky. That’s not a strategy

[@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly]

Im born and raised 🤚🏾🙌🏾 in Chicago Illinois, I'm a 38 year old 🗝️ black 🐈‍⬛🖤 retired home 🏡 owner and I think 💬🤔 Chicago sports teams suck 7:34 Jerry Krause is dead and gone "they have yet 🤔 to show us they are great 😃👍🏾 at finding talent". They need new young 🌱 management with fresh ideas 💡9:05 Now thats what I'm talking about, good job brother.

[@stephenballard822]

Good take. Highlights the 2 big problems in the nba. The selection of all stars/all nba. The nba teams being lazy to develop players they need in their teams. How do we get Bol Bol?

[@SQUATLEY]

100%. Tanking is cheap way out that isn't guaranteed. We have great players that would thrive with a couple small, but key moves. I hate gambling. Also, I am a believer in putting in the work and earning what is coming to you from going hard and all out.

[@goatmode7317]

As much as I don’t want to watch us suck every game and rebuilding, I’d rather do that then continue to be unbelievably mid

[@jaycee11145]

No team is good consistently every year, people are just unbelievably impatient and would rather be mid just so it's a little more interesting Too bad being mid doesn't get you good draft picks or compete for a title

[@robkelly8940]

I agree with you 100% Bulls Central!! No to tanking. Trade Zach LaVine and go from there. You don’t need to trade the others unless you get some great value for them that makes sense. I would also try to trade Lonzo if possible

[@tjn2254]

Nobody wants LaVine

[@robkelly8940]

@@tjn2254 oh yeah I forgot, you’re inside the other 29 front offices listening to their conversations, right? Dude, nobody knows. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but just wait and see. If a team is willing to trade for Bradley Beal who has a no trade clause, it’s very feasible that there is some stupid team out there willing to give the Bulls a bag of chips for LaVine. I’ll be happy as long as the Bulls don’t attach any draft picks to get off him.

[@stepmamic787]

AK is genius ... hear me out. Is it tanking if you're 'trying' to win but obviously don't have the talent to compete? Our trajectory has us in the lottery, our main star wants out and the other 2 are all but ready to age out (if one isn't already). Basically, come next year or the year after, we're probably an injury to Demar away to being the worst team in the league. AK avoids any tanking penalty as once again, injuries cost us yet again.

[@ayoowets]

One of my favorite videos you've made well worded

[@BullsCentral]

Appreciate it 🙏

[@balthorpayne]

We are a major-market team who are the 6th most valuable franchise in the NBA. When people say "tanking works" and uses some team as an example, they completely ignore than dozen + bottom feeding teams who are also tanking in perpetuity. Bringing up the exceptions does not change that most tanking teams just ends up being +1 in the win columns for teams that are actually trying. If they team tried that tanking ish again, I would tune out, because I saw the post-Jimmy years and it didn't bear fruit due to office decisions on one hand and just bad luck on the other e.g. 7th pick 3 times. I do not believe these pro-tank people actually want to watch intentionally bad ball for 4-5 years unless we luck into super picks. Even OKC did not bottom out with a plan. They got Shai and tried to win...they just sucked until they didn't. Bulls need to actually live with their decisions and learn to change the culture. There are a bunch of guys on this squad that are a trade away from fans bitching and whining when they look better on someone else's squad.

[@JayRandom2013]

You don’t know what you’re talking about lmao. People “ignore” the bottom feeding teams because they aren’t rebuilding - their tanking and just generally make bad team moves (coaching staff, front office hires etc). OKC did not try to win at first as they were projected to be a lotto team until CP3 turned back the clock, which then lead them to trade him for more assets in the off season. Them, the Magic, the TWolves and even the Mavs are all examples of rebuilding until you your franchise guy and then go all in. We need to make moves to be like them, not whatever the hell we’re doing

[@ki2726]

Bulls aren’t a destination franchise. Players don’t like going to colder weather cities

[@j.f.d.5596]

I like the current “mediocre” team. Let’s remember that Zach Levine and Lonzo Ball are supposed to be on this team, but they’re injured. You can’t say “this group just isn’t working” when “this group” is never whole. Would the Chauncey Billups era Pistons have been been a championship team if they were missing Billups and Rip Hamilton? Or would those great J-Kidd era Nets teams have still been championship level if J-Kidd missed 3 straight years and Kenyon Martin was always missing? I mean, injuries are bad luck, period. If I was AK and a reporter asked me why the team I assembled has thus far failed to meet expectations, I would reply “the team I assembled has been largely incapacitated due to injury.”

[@kerizmaent]

Same people who say they are tired of us losing but want to tank. Then loose for 5 years again before making it to the play off

[@jinx5873]

The draft lottery is stupid they need to have a similar system to the nfl leaving every team somewhat competitive

[@oliveryasay4360]

I disagree. There seems to be a challenge in balancing winning games with developing young talent. Look at players like Patrick Williams, Ayo Dosunmu, and Coby White. When Zach LaVine, DeMar DeRozan, and Nikola Vucevic are healthy, these younger players see fewer minutes. While veteran guidance is valuable, development often requires playing time and learning from mistakes. Examples like Anthony Edwards, Ja Morant, Jalen Green, and Paolo Banchero all started and played significant minutes early in their careers, regardless of the score. This approach has helped them become All-Star caliber players. Similarly, Coby White showed promise early on, but his development stalled when his playing time decreased. The key might lie in identifying talented young players and giving them opportunities to grow, even if they aren't generational talents. Many All-Star players, like Tyrese Haliburton, and Jalen Brunson, weren't initially considered top prospects, but they thrived with significant playing time.

[@lancethomas3310]

You can always sell hope. What we shouldn't do is overpay for players like they KNEW they were doing for Zach or over pay older players just to be mediocre. This fan base still fills up the UV regardless (and that actually I also part of the problem).

[@rielvlog8215]

I want the bulls to rebuild but they should keep White, Ayo, Williams, terry, Philips and sanogo. The rest trade for future assets.

[@joaopferreira77]

Mailbag: What is your Offseason plan you want to see? I will explain mine: Trade Lavine, Caruso and Vouch in the Draft day. Try to get another picks in this draft and in the next ones. Try not lost Demar for nothing, istead try to get something for him. Is it possible in the draft day? I don't know but I think soo. Why trade Caruso? I don't want to tank, but Caruso is a win now player in a team that does not have floor for it right now, keep him does not make sense. We can bring solid players in this draft like Holland at 11 who can contribute right now. I see the Bulls with this approach, not tanking, but continue to be a fringe play in team, devoloping players like Coby, Ayo, Pat, Phillips, Terry, Bitim, Sanogo, and the new draft pieces. We can be a fringe Play in team but have the pleasure to see our young core devoloping and have more minutes, keep the 2025 pick, and maybe, with a little bit of luck have the top pick next year.

[@corroneldridge2172]

It's all about selling tickets, but the owner doesn't wanna tank because that's means there will be fewer fans coming to the games,

[@ianemory5800]

The problem is the Bulls don't have any track record of being able to attract superstar talent either. You've got to have star players to win, and pitching at the top of the draft is still the best chance for the bulls. Of the four remaining teams this year the best players are a #1,#2,#3, and #12 picks. All of them were drafted by their teams except Luka who was a draft day trade, but I'm counting it as they had largely agreed upon it before the draft. I think we get caught up on Gianis and Jokic and forget the majority of the superstar players are top 10 picks with most of them being top 5. We agree that the young guys are probably too good to be a bottom 5 team. I would count this as a win. I don't think a superstar is going to be jumping to join the Old Vuc, and Old Demar. I think someone is more likely to join a borderline all star White and a 35 win bulls team over the Old guys and a 40 win bulls team. Not to mention tanking give you assets which can be leveraged to trade for a disgruntled superstar. No one is going to see a 40 mil/ year Demar as a chip they want. My final point is this.AKME'S drafting has been pretty bad. I agree, but he's also lost every year he's made. You can say good free agency signings have been pretty good and I would agree. However, we need a superstar. As always I enjoy the content even when we disagree.

[@ThatOldSchoolMagic]

I believe the Draft only helps teams that have never won a championship. Those that already won have less of a chance to win in the lottery the next time they’re in Tank mode.

[@obtuseangle14]

I think having this same team without zach and vuc, trading those two to deepen our roster as i feel those two wont get us good young players, will be better for our young players as they can develop further while knowing what they have to do to actually win games for when were actually competitive. Having zo, coby, deroz, pwill, craig, ayo, and caruso is a good start we just need defensive big men and shooters to fill it out

[@ilovelaurax23]

I just don't have the faith in management to patch things up and hope a star wants to sign. It feels like that's what they have been doing for the last three years and it just keeps getting worse. If they run this back with Vooch and Demar, then it's going to be another 35 win season and maybe a push for the play-in again. That is a very depressing future. All i want is a youth movement. Build around Ayo and Coby. Give big minutes to Terry and the other kids to see what they are made of. If that gets them the number 1 pick, great. If it gets the 10th pick, great. It's on management to make smart draft picks. Having the first pick is no guarantee of a star. Just look at the all-nba teams and see how many are not #1 picks.

[@AliasM7]

Normally this would make sense failed to mention that the 2025 nba draft will be one of the deepest in years so we could easily get a more talented player in the top 10 of next years draft than anyone on our roster. Also whats not mentioned is Jerry Reinsdorf is too reluctant to go in the luxury tax and actually SPEND to compete. Players will always see us as a losing franchise for this reason so why does it matter to try and get the most out of this group for an image?

[@AnimeCartoonsArt]

I don’t usually disagree with your takes but I don’t agree with this one Tanking is necessary sometimes I’d say trade all the veteran players that can get us some 1sts and give a lot of the younger guys and bench guys playing time…we might end up finding a gem on the bench or our g league Then try to get a top pick for 2-3 years while being willing to go far over the cap so that way we’re able to sign a big free agent during our temporary rebuild I honestly think our team would head in the right direction if we did this

[@atsk3281]

I disagree. Chicago is not a free agent destination. AKME can make up a masterplan, but If superstar doesn't want to come to the Bulls its pointless! Like 2010, GarPax created cap space and lineup Rose, Wade, James, Bosh and Noah was realistic. But, they didn't want to come to Chicago. If you consider that, Bulls have better changes to build a contender through the draft.

[@jaycee11145]

No one wants to come to Chicago because the owners are not player friendly, they seen the history and they want to avoid it. Anthony Davis is the only star that wants to play for chicago because of his roots. A superstar can only be gotten through the draft but the delusional fan base including this homer youtuber don't want to watch bad basketball and would rather be play in champions

[@seds94]

100% tank right now. This coming from a knicks fan. The 2026 and 27 nba drafts are going go be better. 2026 free agency is lit as well. Trade for picks and salary. Plus young talent. Eye a 2028-30 championshio window. Look at what okc was able to accomplish. Now they are sitting pretty

[@TETRARCHFREAK666]

The Bulls don't need to tank just retool the roster and fire Billy maybe that will make the Bulls better. Rebuilding would set this team back another 1,000 years

[@bezllama3325]

None of the final 4 teams (except maybe the pacers) tanked to get where they are

[@thechad6218]

Bulls are a treadmill team, aiming for the 8-10 seed is only good for corporate profit

[@Joker-jz9cn]

Bulls arent gonna overpay in free agents, or get top tier free agents here so how are gonna retool around borderline all star players?

[@shawngates7244]

First time you made no sense

[@BullsCentral]

Lol ok. Explain

[@sammysam2615]

Rebuild by trading Vuc, Lavine and DeRozan. Use the picks that they can get.

[@pabblo101]

I have no hope in this team other than praying White taking another jump into super stardom.

[@joaopferreira77]

Tanking no but I want to build arround the Young core and the draft

[@BullsCentral]

Yes, THAT I agree with

[@TheMidniteAshes]

You saw Zach with LeBron and AD? He definitely going to the Lakers 😂

[@BullsCentral]

I don’t see why the Lakers would want him though

[@jesussolis595]

I believe that this talk usually comes without context. I disagree with your point of view from the perspective of wanting to win an NBA championship. Usually NBA teams draft their best player that leads them to the championship. We have seen some teams Like Toronto with Kawhi trade for top tier player and win a championship but I feel like those are more anomalies. Besides Toronto and the Lakers, I haven’t seen any other team win a championship like that. I also believe that this idea that we shouldn’t tank comes because when AK came over, he said that he wanted to build a competitive team(I might be wrong here in the exact words used). Regardless, everyone keeps saying they want a competitive team. My question is why not a championship team? It’s two different things. No other franchise or their fan base except maybe the Pistons are saying they want to be competitive. Everyone says they want the chip. So to get on the same page, let’s say we want a championship team. How do we go about it? Trade Vucc,Demar, and Zach and get more pieces? Will Coby we our number 1 option? Is Ayo the potential candidate to lead this team to a championship? Rebuilding with these guys will only bring us back to our current problem. Trying to be competitive but not really contending. The way I see it, is that we are trying to build a house on a foundation made out of quicksand. All this time we keep trying different materials on the house when it’s the foundation that is the problem. We don’t have a superstar. We don’t have a top 5 player. Coby,Ayo, Pat, or anyone else on this current roster won’t ever achieve that. So we go back to the issue of how do we get that one guy that can lead us? And unfortunately it’s always been through the draft. It might sound like a shot in the dark, but until someone provides a new way of building a championship team foundation, it won’t ever be changing. And trust me I get it that even if we tank we are not guaranteed the #1 pick, but it gives us the best opportunity to get that opportunity

[@noy8940]

Sticking with this core is a mistake. Idc what we call it, get Vooch Zach and DeMar on other teams for their sake and ours

[@midwestyle]

The Bulls don't need to tank. They will inadvertently do it anyway. This roster is below average at best. So when the run it all back again next year (which we know they will), they will be worse and have a shot at the lottery anyway.

[@BallinVlogs]

I RELEASED THE WHOLE ROSTER AND SIGNED THE SHORTEST PLAYERS IN THE G LEAGUE AND FREE AGENTS

[@BullsCentral]

Gross

[@TheMidniteAshes]

Lonzo coming back why should we tank

[@TheOtherMJ_76]

Tanking doesn't work. Look at Philly, Detroit, New Orleans, etc. You are just hoping for luck in the lottery. Maybe you get a top two pick...how's that working out for Portland so far? Try to find a savvy GM that can manage assets and not get fleeced in trade negotiations. The draft odds have been set now that being absolutely dreadful may get you nothing. Tanking instills a losing mentality in your players, and as soon as they see an opening to bolt town they will be gone. What team has tanked and the gone on to win a 'chip in the next 5 years? What...5 years is too short...oh you want to wait an entire decade to maybe contend. Get out of here with that mess.

[@ki2726]

The Bulls are destined to be mediocre for the next decade at least. The Reinsdorfs are terrible cheap owners and they aren’t a destination city so they need to tank in order to acquire star level talent.

[@cbarns86]

Tanking is stupid.

[@tamalesftw]

COOP[ER FLAGG

[@jayskrill7427]

Regardless of what the Bulls do I don't see them being relevant in this league anytime soon! You'll be watching a play in team at best! Lol ...AK doesn't know what he's doing! Plain and simple! So for me until he's fired! The Bulls prob won't be worth watching unless he figures out how to fix his cohesive competitive roster! Lol that's very mediocre! I didn't agree with any of the trades he made especially trading Gafford!! But I guess when you don't have a podcast.. and you're a fan that still watches every game.. you'll still be told you don't know what you're talking about! Lol...lets see how far they get with overpaid veterans!!

[@brandon8783]

First let's drop this tank suggestion. A rebuild doesn't have to be tanking. Should we trade Vuc, DeRozan and an unhappy Lavine? Yes should we make sure we get back 1st Rd picks for them yes if possible. Should we be trading for straight scrubs in an effort to lose? No!!! With all that said this team needs a change and it must start with those 3 players and Billy Donovan. Give it whatever name you want to give it. However no tanking. That is just embarrassing and setting a bad culture.

[@jayridglyn8580]

Dont tank please

[@WarOfWords810]

They need to tank. Their top 3 players aren’t taking them past the playoffs in. That should say enough right there.

[@idkwt2use]

Nobody wants a tank. But the Bulls have to. They should trade everyone but coby for draft picks and expiring contracts

[@mikeybears23]

Wait the Bulls give next years pick to the spurs if its outside of 10??? Wow fire these clowns.

[@I_AM_SKOKS]

And people don’t want to rebuild. Yikes, it needs to tank now.

[@spookyghostwriter3110]

As a Toronto fan who had to watch their 8th overall pick this year go, man I feel relief that I’m not a Chicago fan.

[@tangiemarie7330]

@@spookyghostwriter3110but y’all tanked, won less than 30 games and still didn’t get your pick lol?

[@spookyghostwriter3110]

@@tangiemarie7330 We tanked in the sense that 2 of our starters got hurt, two more had family pass, and we had that whole Porter thing. Did we leave players out longer than needed? Sure, but we “tanked” a little late.

[@tangiemarie7330]

@@spookyghostwriter3110 yall tanked the moment OG and them got traded but yall still missed out on ur pick.. that’s the point Jamal is making .. tanking doesn’t always work.

[@cheersmodreams691]

You're right, the Bulls have had a string of very very bad luck. The Rose injury, the Ball injury and n from the lottery. Your last point is the most powerful. Just listen to Durant wanting to leave the Suns for the Timberwolves because he sees no future with the Suns and a potential future championship.

[@ki2726]

Durant would never leave a great warm weather city like Phoenix to go play in frigid Minnesota. That makes no sense.

[@mr.kwamid-86_43]

5:58... let me intoduce you to Jontay Porter ;)

[@BullsCentral]

Lol fair enough

[@F1zzii]

We gotta resign DeRozan, trade LaVine for what we can get, run out vooch's contract and see who is on the market in December. Or trade off Vooch this off-season if someone actually wants him. Also, P Williams is not worth rhe money. We should let him walk

[@cyrus2546]

Buddy, we didn’t get Luka because Niko Mirotic went on a massive hot streak and single-handedly won us 10 out 12 games destroying our chances to get Luka. Our stupid front office could have benched him any time during this 12 game streak but moronically decided to keep letting him destroy our chances at drafting a basketball legend. We were 3-20 before Mirotic came back and became Michael Jordan for 2 weeks. The reason we didn’t get Luka is because we DIDN’T TANK HARD ENOUGH. We finished 27-55. Dallas finished 24-58. You don’t know basketball son. I don’t even think you watch the games, if you did you wouldn’t be spitting this nonsense.

[@bttrtoastt]

Hot Take: bulls should go and get Chris Paul

[@bttrtoastt]

I feel like we should he a floor general could help elevate Zach, Deebo, and that awful Center

[@Mastermadridista]

I am sorry but I disagree, no superstar is coming to the Bulls in free agency, this team has no clear vision for the future and are stuck in the middle ground. At least if you tank and start getting draft assets, should one or two become superstars you can build around it and not only have a competitive team but also a more interesting project in free agency. Right now being "competitive" is not it...

[@BullsCentral]

Sure I agree no superstar is coming in free agency, but you can trade for one or at least trade a player that has that kind of potential

[@ikez78]

You are mischararterizibg what people are asking for again. Not sure if it’s just knock down a straw man or what but fans want the older players gone for picks and young assets because that path has a much better chance of working than this current stuck in the mud nonsense. Whys that so hard to understand?

[@PatchesOhoulihan159]

F what you're talking about......TANK

[@user-hk3hl2kz4z]

The Bulls will never be great again (win a championship) without a superstar. They should have been tanking for Vic

[@BallinVlogs]

TANK AND GET JORDAN POOLE

[@ikez78]

These types of videos just look like defending the current FOs approach. I totally disagree w this take.

[@BullsCentral]

Sorry, but it’s true. I’m not defending the front office, but tanking is a lazy strategy

[@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly]

3:05 Great work, let the public know

[@k_e_e_z]

if this team doesn’t tank then it will forever be mid. Guaranteed mid team for the next 10 seasons.

[@NikoStark1]

I’m sorry dude but you can’t compare Pistons with the Bulls when they traded away Jimmy Butler. Pistons were tanking during the draft rules change, and during Bulls tanking the odds of landing a higher pick were higher, the problem was they didn’t actually try to tank, they tried to win. I remember praying the Bulls would lose more during the Luka draft because Europeans knew about this kid since he was like 14! But nop, Bulls never actually tanked. Could have had Zion, Luka, Ja Morant, Jason Tatum, Jaren Jackson Jr…., you would have a piece which you could honestly say we can build a championship roster around this guy. Can you say that with ANY Bulls player now? No, you can’t. What’s the point than? I thought the point is to win a Championship. Are we winning a championship with any of these guys as the main guy? Also, do you wanna bet against Luka, Anthony Edwards, Wemby, Tatum that they will never win a chip? I certainly don’t. And where were they drafted? Who is leading the last 4 teams remaining in the playoffs? Which number picks?

[@anthonycasso8279]

This video is silly , Demar Rozan is like 35 , there are absolutely no players who are the future for the next 8 years on this team. Even lousy teams at least have that to look towards too , this team doesn't, it will just remain middle of the pack and mediocre for years. This franchise has mismanaged players like Butler who was blessed enough to be traded away.

[@amitb1927]

Tanking doesn’t help with anything…. Look at the pistons lmao

[@alphadem481]

You guys on the “tank” bandwagon are so funny why would we tank if when we was healthy we was the one of the top teams in the league ! Like huh nahh I say we get healthy and we see how this season goes . Especially since Lonzo is coming back

[@Cashmoneez]

Tank tank tank your ain’t a real bulls fans if you don’t wanna blow up the team. Team has peaked and free agents don’t wanna go to Chicago. Cut the losses and start over. If you’re trying to tank and the team is actually decent then get excited for that and keep and build around them instead literally that’s what coby white is going through rn. Your plan of “just make some trades for mid tier stars and maybe we’ll get out of playins for a 1st round exit this time” is literally the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard. Only thing bulls are worse at drafting is trading.

[@rini214]

I'm gonna say that it definitely won't happen but here's what I hope the depth chart will be next season. C- Jarrett Allen, Sanogo PF- Obi Toppin, Julian Philips SF- DeMar, Green, Terry SG- Ayo, Caruso, Bitim PG- Coby, Lonzo, Carter