I dont usually point out other tradesmens' bad work, but...

The reason I chose to make this video is actually explained by me in the recording.
I don't think its fair that people can get away with terrible workmanship like this, someone has to pull them up and point it out to others.
I wouldn't be doing my job responsibly if i let shoddy efforts like this slide under the radar
#bigcables #cable #cablejointer #cablejointing #construction #electrical #electricalwork #electrician

[@bigclivedotcom]

Welcome to the new era of instant slideshow-trained experts. It's all gone a bit qualifications-4-cash.

[@jointechcabling9103]

Very true. It rings true with how they were talking about themselves. Telling anyone that would listen how good they were and what extreme circumstances they work in. Merely subterfuge to aollow them to try and make some money before they got found out.

[@SteveW139]

I watch this channel for the pleasure of seeing a professional doing a job with skill and pride.

[@fraserreid719]

The lack of QC or clerk of works on sites are shocking now. Used to have everything checked. Now it’s just get it in and worry about it later

[@bigclivedotcom]

@@jointechcabling9103 They might be doing that "agency" thing where they falsely present themselves as skilled workers, and just get sacked from jobs until they learn to fake it, or find a contractor dumb enough to keep using them.

[@walseee]

Can we appreciate the effort gone into the editing recently too

[@jointechcabling9103]

I've been making a point of trying to get a video per week uploaded. It made a difference to my analytics, that's for sure.

[@Bilbo-cky]

A good tradesman never makes mistakes like this. I'm glad you rectified it without hesitation-that shows a good spirit. I am also a tradesman and have never made such a mistake, following the skills I learned from my super seniors. They were all good-hearted people, and I am very thankful to God for learning the basics from them. I work in the oil field and couldn’t start a channel like yours, so I created one focused on relaxation and entertainment. I’d appreciate your support. You can listen to the videos whenever you sleep in your van.

[@jointechcabling9103]

Cheers bud. Ill check you out. Its nice to get a gokd nights sleep.

[@gjrendle]

Totally feeling your pain here. I get so pissed off and disheartened with sorting out other peoples shitty bodged installations, it sometimes makes me feel like leaving the industry, but your a credit to our industry, keep doing what your doing. I love watching your professionalism, it's very refreshing to see.

[@jointechcabling9103]

Theres a few things that we share then. I think its nice to be proud of our work and also to show others so they can do the same. Thanks my man, much appreciated 👍🏻

[@stefanovanenio]

Weeeeellllllll...its better to be looking at it than for it!! What a disgrace! It's a shame that they didn't take pride in their work....I've been a sparks for 20 years, industrial, commercial and domestic...I always take a photo of my work....not for anyone else, just me, because I'm proud of my work...Great job and video my friend

[@jointechcabling9103]

Terrible isnt it. Yeah i agree, its better to be long than short. Shortness just creates heartache

[@davidclarke2513]

I was an Industrial electrician for 50 years and the best by far in installing swa cables was Taylors, they were fantastic

[@jointechcabling9103]

Different gravy arent they. I once witnessed them turn up with their own low loader with tractors, trailers and whinches on it. Their yard in ripon was something to behold apparently..

[@davidcurry4433]

Great video as ever Tony, thankfully that's not any cable gang or jointer i know.

[@jointechcabling9103]

Thanks very much. Im glad you dont know them🤣🤣

[@AddyBittler-]

Sorry to see it get you so down mate! It’s a terrible situation that. Cowboys bro 👍 So now every cable has to be tested due to them not rewriting the specified number so the next person can verify it! That’s pure incompetence!

[@jointechcabling9103]

Very poor workmanship! I was a little bit pissed off but i got over it pretty quickly👍🏻👍🏻.

[@thattoolguy9432]

The whole industry is like it and getting worse, way too many times ive lost money putting others shi* right, i feel your pain

[@jointechcabling9103]

It comes from being poorly taught i think. The generation before didnt care so thats what the teach the next one. Very disappointing

[@thattoolguy9432]

Or blag it to get the job and have probably only made off a 2.5mm in armoured in college.. tons of that about

[@Chris_In_Texas]

Hey Tony, looks like you got your new safety vest! 😁👍🍺

[@jointechcabling9103]

I did, indeed. The next stop is one with my company logo on it. I might treat myself for Christmas

[@sparky1543]

Lost for words with this one… Anyway, great vid as always Tony, I’ve just ordered some exhaust cutters

[@jointechcabling9103]

Its bad isnt it!! Hopefully theyre the right ones and they dont fall apart

[@sparky1543]

@@jointechcabling9103 went for he sealey AK6838 molegrip type..?

[@bramcoteelectrical1088]

😮😮😮 wtf... that is horrific Good solid work by yourself thou😊😊😊😊 love watching your videos. Everything we do needs to have pride in our work Seen one "Electrician" tell me hes done 11kv cabling, big contracts this and that...and then put live conductor to earth on a light fiting and couldn't get it to work on council contract....i had to go out after hours to see why the rcd wouldnt go back on... Its absolutely shocking why tell big porkies...just say and be honest if your a new electrican and need help or something 😲 . We all start somewhere but shouldn't take something on if your clueless...

[@jointechcabling9103]

I completely agree with you. Dont be afraid to ask questions. I find the ones who talk very loudly are usually the ones who are the most inept at the jobs. Thanks for watching👍🏻

[@rozzer8290]

How do they get away with it??

[@jointechcabling9103]

Just not getting checked regularly enough and to be fair to the supervision it was hidden by the other cables that were pulled in the room

[@tykewando]

Glad i was only there for the week doing/rectifying those 150's mate. Wouldn't have made a bean on messing around with all that small stuff.

[@jointechcabling9103]

I didnt do too bad out of them. Id have done better if i hadnt had been sorting their shite out

[@chazzlebazzle69]

Shocking that....

[@jointechcabling9103]

Very shocking indeed.

[@robertburrows6612]

I have walk away from jobs like that, simply because I would of lost money on the job, because they didn't want to pay for me putting the job right, before I could could do my job properly

[@jointechcabling9103]

That was the thing. Exactly as youve stated, i couldn't continue with my work until id sorted that mess out. Very frustrating.

[@hookedonbasscornwall]

Extras

[@blackindian9554]

Do u have a tool list for all your equipment?

[@jointechcabling9103]

Thats a good idea for a video. I shall make one tomorrow. Thanks for the idea👍🏻👍🏻

[@AlanLumsden]

Hello again Ynot 👊 Can you explain how this impacts you financially? Fixing those fcuk-ups is just like installing the cable again, and more, is it not? Or am I missing something I'm not aware of?

[@sergiofernandez3725]

I suspect that Tony does not get paid to fix the previous teams work but he needs it finished so he can start his work.

[@jointechcabling9103]

It impacts me because it slows me down. Taking them out and making things correct takes longer than doing it right the first time. I wasnt thousands of pounds out of pocket but it will have been a few hundred by the time it was fixed.

[@danielhearnden3776]

Are you not able to point out these faults and get paid to put them right I don’t see how it’s fair to work for free

[@SussexElectrical]

Wow!😮

[@jointechcabling9103]

Wow indeed🤣🤣🤣 shocking isnt it.

[@stevenphillips1311]

Surely the work has to be signed off before they leave site

[@jointechcabling9103]

Youd think wouldnt you. Most of the time ive have to give a list of cables ive connected. Once theyve been verified, then i get paid.

[@jimsvideos7201]

Whoever made that mess either didn’t know better and shouldn’t have been left unsupervised, or did know better and should be hired again.

[@jointechcabling9103]

I dont think they'll be getting hired again.

[@justinclark7734]

Is this at Edinburgh

[@jointechcabling9103]

It is. Its an office building in the west end.

[@justinclark7734]

Thought it looked familiar

[@yosserg9389]

They clearly messed it up knackered the gland realised they couldn’t put it right easily, packed up and ran.

[@jointechcabling9103]

All of the above except they were told to leave. They got sussed out.

[@jonesconrad1]

*SHOCKING*

[@jointechcabling9103]

Brutal isnt it😲

[@robertwilliamson3852]

Hey my sparky mate Daryl adams is a bloody good spark 😂😂

[@bryansmith3353]

I take it that no one is checking there work plus get them back to to it right

[@jointechcabling9103]

I dont think anyone checked. I think people trust in the fact that men employed to do a job can actually do it.

[@adrianraith3831]

Let's be honest - if they're leaving jobs in that state, would you actually want them back?

[@sergiofernandez3725]

I have said this before. A clerk of works (CoW) is needed before people/contractors get paid. Once people are paid they are less inclined to come back to resolve issue for free. People who pride their work would not leave it like that in the first place and secondly if they were called back for an issue. They would get there and fix the issue FOC (Free Of Charge). This is why people like Tony have a great reputation at doing his job. When Tony leaves site and tells you it's done, you know it is done properly.

[@jointechcabling9103]

I completely agree with the first statement you've made. In the long run it would keep costs down too. I will just say thank you for your second statement 👍🏻👍🏻

[@kjgreen3]

Problem is KZbin, when experts in their field like Tony make jointing look easy anybody watching thinks I can do that. However as Tony will testify it's far from straightforward and only experience gets you to the finish line correctly. Was the jointing firm just full of labourers with ideas above their station?

[@mathiasjacobsen3355]

Is it a UK thing to use armoured cables in domestic and industrial? Not very common in other parts of Europe, unless at a farm, where rodents are present.

[@petermichaelgreen]

Afaict In the UK SWA (or AWA for single core cables) is the norm for. 1. Any private underground cables (the electricity distribution industry have their own cable types) 2. Anything three phase 3. Anything bigger than 50 amps or so. 4. Anything you want to be able to conceal without having RCD protection. SWA is not normally used for small final circuits in domestic and commercial premesis. Those are usually wired in either flat "twin and earth" cables or singles in conduit/trunking.

[@jointechcabling9103]

We use them where there is no secondary containment ie trunking or conduit. Ladder rack and tray are used to tie the cables to, they can provide some protection but it is minimal

[@MK-jo1gi]

Point it out to your customer, and offer to fix it. For a price added to your original offer, of course. They can go claim it from the original installers. Make sure you have everything properly recorded before you offer it. Pointing out to the customer that that shitty job could cost them the building if it burns down might motivate their choice. Then offer to come check any other work that person did for your customer. :)

[@jointechcabling9103]

I think that was the route they went down. I have put in my invoice all of the relevant info of what i had to do. Plus i can direct them to this youtube video if they dont believe me

[@rscelectrical7091]

It's the whole industry going the same way Tony. People taking on work, but they don't have a clue how to do it properly or safely & a lot of them are leaving stuff in a lethal state.

[@jointechcabling9103]

Yeah its bad news at the minute.

[@rscelectrical7091]

Don't I know it mate, I'm doing a 32 plot private housing estate at the minute. I've never seen so much crap work in my life.

[@Shortlongrunrunner]

Do you try and educate people who need a bit of guidance or do you get all swinging dick about it. As that’s also a big problem so far as I can see.

[@fraserreid719]

@@rscelectrical7091 that’s why I went into maintenance. They were letting labourers loose on containment and wiring on a few jobs I was on. That was enough for me to pack the hard hat and SJIB card away. Labourers giving me drawings and telling me how to wire

[@dlh190]

This affects other industries too where it appears that young inexperienced staff are behaving in an overly self assured manner - which they must have learned at skool... Then when they inevitably make a big mistake - zero remorse, efforts to learn from it, or offer to make right.

[@jointechcabling9103]

It seems to me that a lot of people are afraid to ask questions. If you're not sure just ask someone for help. They wont think any less of you, you can't know everything. Ive been doing this 27 years and i learn something new every week.

[@ColinDH12345]

I agree it's not good workmanship but I must say, one day, we need to improve the way cables are terminated. The design of glands is terrible and we have tolerated it for years.

[@kjgreen3]

Aye even treating it like big diameter Ho7n run it through an ip68 stuffing/compression gland strip to reveal armour inside enclosure snd maybe a constant tension spting with a braided earth like you find in resin/torpedo joints.

[@jointechcabling9103]

Theres a company thats designed a plastic outer gland with brass inner (swa i think the company is) im doubtful that theyd work on the bigger cables

[@2secondslater]

Electricians consistently leave all their rubbish to tidy up on all job sites I've worked at. No surprises.

[@jointechcabling9103]

Yes we do. I have nothing to use to defend these actions. Sorry.

[@jamesmc1272]

I've been on jobs like that, poor subbies chucking it in, then the regulars have to spend twice the time putting it right.

[@jointechcabling9103]

Not fair really is it. They only get away with it for so long though so thats a good thing

[@tompw3141]

People changing the numbers on cables and connecting them wrong is beyond poor workmanship; it's dangerous - both to anyone in the building generally and electricians working on it. Personally, I would tell the client I can't safely do the work until the problems are fixed, and that any fault-fixing is on a per-hour basis. Then do the agreed work for a fixed fee.

[@jointechcabling9103]

The client knew about it and sent 2 lads on to the task of belling out the cables. It took them a while but they got it done.

[@YGELLYPIKER]

Chop out the spar or spars on the rack then refit using L brackets etc etc

[@jointechcabling9103]

I took the rungs out above the cables. They wont get replaced because the cables go exactly where the should be.

[@danielelise7348]

That looks like the work of someone who did a week with an actual cable jointer,then someone asked them if they could do this work & they said "yeah of course I can" 🙄🙄

[@jointechcabling9103]

Yeah. A typical "i can do that" merchant. Theres plenty of them about unfortunately

[@AHVaes]

Man, man, man, what a bunch of amateurs. We have figures like that here in Holland too. Guys who don't master the profession, but want to make a quick buck. Professionals like you can fix it because it is totally irresponsible to leave it like that. And when asked later who made this shit, you will be unjustly accused. I can stand that so badly too if it's not professionally installed.

[@jointechcabling9103]

Thanks very much. I think people are like that from every country, in every walk of life. Just people who don't care enough but want the money.

[@darknessdestroyer5524]

I don't get why you have to suffer financially (apart from psychologically), whoever pays you to do your job should pay you to fix that shit and invoice the cowboy firm for the time involved 🤷‍♂️

[@carlmarquardt994]

I agree. Tony is one of the best at it and he ought to have a clause and solid agreement before starting. At least with the ballache he can still get paid rather than a week out of his own pocket

[@darknessdestroyer5524]

@carlmarquardt994 👍

[@jointechcabling9103]

They did say they would pay me to redo it. Its just the time taken to pull it all apart and redo, i could have got more cables into the panels from new. I just hope they either realise how bad they are and get better or stop doing it altogether

[@darknessdestroyer5524]

@jointechcabling9103 I know how you fee mate, I just finished a job where they had got some prick in to start the job, 95mm² 4 core parallel feeds into 400A isolators, he drilled all the gland plates (10 of them) in the wrong place then walked off site saying that he didn't fancy it, I had to cope with terminating them, very frustrating but that's the joys. I appreciate your YT channel mate, good content 👍

[@honestjohns9491]

If the Adams family put it in if it was thing he's done OK withnone hand

[@jointechcabling9103]

Hahahahahaha id have accepted the if Thing had done it.

[@irechopshop]

It’s not your fault that those cables where terminated like there where, so the time you spent re-terminating should be charged on day works

[@jointechcabling9103]

I put them on my invoice as extra works. Hopefully ill get paid.

[@eddiereed5025]

Can you not bill main contractor for putting work right, if not name and shame

[@jointechcabling9103]

Ive sent my invoice to include the changes i made. The main contractor knew about the job and was in agreement that it needed to be changed.