I Drill BETTER Than Artisan!- Ev Charger

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[@NBundyElectrical]

youtube.com/@brightsparkmid?si=kZyz5_FmffTQct4D mitches channel, go show him some love and get him to 1K

[@ukprometheus]

You keep mentioning Adams mum, i think its about time to get a picture posted up so we all can judge :)

[@justme5384]

Maybe she's like Howard's mom, always heard and talked about but never seen

[@harnoorsingh1809]

Fair enough 😂 ​@@justme5384

[@Dave_MacG]

Loving the bants between you and Mitch. You seem a lot happier now that you are working along side someone again 👍🏻

[@artisanelectrics]

Haha you wish mate...

[@Malandrin]

for one moment I thought I was watching a video from artisan 🤣🤣 jordan loves that ev charger

[@stuartandrews4344]

Zappi, superb charger, my EV charger of choice.

[@buzzyphantom]

You don't need to use the screwdriver in the release when you are connecting it up, the release is for getting the cable out. Which is why you were struggling to get the screwdriver into the release, also the label is because some sparks were pushing the cable into the release slot and not the cable slot, so the terminals were burning out. Nice bit of rear entry and angle drilling! Bet you were over the moon when you missed the metal tie 🙂

[@sergiofernandez3725]

On the depth of that cable in the ground I think the 600mm comes from the cable layed in the street at the incoming service. Same for water mains. I do agree that the patio slab does offer some protection and it is clear with the cables either side. If it were SWA in a cultivated feild it would be minimum 1000mm it a 2396 Electrical Design question.

[@gsdevme]

You should keep that silica gel pack inside the Zappi as per the install instructions not discard it just FYI. helps keep things dry if there is any moisture creeping in slightly.

[@Gjbsecurityandalarms]

Do you know how good it is to see you joking and happy mate. I know you’ve been through a lot and I’m happy your happy hears to a great year ahead

[@brightsparkmid]

Nothing better than some positive comments like that to brighten a blokes day ❤

[@simonthug7866]

Nice to see some EV work!

[@trojanhawrs4613]

I'd prefer to use armour when burying, agree about being safe enough under slab though. Probably wouldn't have bothered with the kopex, ideally you want anything metal like that earthed. Cable should be RCD protected anyway unless it's armoured or clipped direct.

[@brightsparkmid]

It has 30ma rcd protection at the board end Kotors is insulated too

[@trojanhawrs4613]

@@brightsparkmid I know, armour is insulated too I'd still rather earth it. I did assume you'd RCD'd it, I prefer running chargers straight off a breaker as the charger has an RCD already - better selectivity and easier for the user to reset. Still a good install though, everyone does things differently! I liked your method of using the 10mm tails on the last video, I hadn't considered that but will be doing it from now on with standalone boards.

[@alanbaltic]

@@trojanhawrs4613 Please read and understand regulation 722.531.3 A type A RCD should be fitted upstream of the charger regardless if there is an RCM device module built into the charger.

[@trojanhawrs4613]

​@@alanbalticThe Zappi has its own type A RCD so need not be fed by one. If the regulation stated that all circuits supplying a charge point had to have RCD protection, that would be different.

[@alanbaltic]

@@trojanhawrs4613 Hi Trojan, yes the regulation does stipulate this in amendment 2. If you speak to myenergi they themself will confirm that you will need to fit an RCD/RCBO upstream of the charger. Are RCDs required to supply a car charger? Yes, regulation 722.531.3 requires that an RCD (Max 30mA) supplies a car charger and the RCD shall disconnect all live conductors. This includes the Neutral therefore the single-pole RCBOs should not be used for this application. Amendment 2 also introduced the requirement to individually protect the car charger with an RCD so this RCD should not serve circuits in addition to the car charger Some car charger manufacturers quote an RDC-DD, what is this? An RDC-DD is a ‘Residual Direct Current - Detecting Device’. This is often built within the car charger equipment to monitor and if necessary disconnect should any DC problems appear on the AC side of the installation, which could affect the operation of RCDs If a car charger does not have any RDC-DD then what type of RCD is required? If the car charger does not have any RDC-DD then you will need a Type B RCD supplying the car charger. This is because Type B can detect this DC, still work and disconnect if required. What type of RCD should be used if the car charger has an RDC-DD that will detect and disconnect any DC issues above 6mA? In this case, a Type A RCD can be used. This is because Type A can still work correctly up to a level of 6mA DC. Over 6mA however, this Type-A device could be affected and possibly blinded and potentially stop working. This is the preferred option as Type A are now very common and lowest price. Therefore most car charger manufacturers have a 6mA RDC-DD built-in. Hope that helps.

[@sergiofernandez3725]

Good stuff Nick. Get a few t-shirts made up. BrightBundy Angle Drilling and wear on a video for a laugh.

[@mylesie8078]

You guys sounding like Dave Savery and Mr Marsh...good laugh...carry on 😊

[@sward86]

Just a tip, as the EV Ultra cable has a data cable in it, and you only use one of the pairs as CTs, you can use another two pairs to make a 100 Mb data cable to hardwire the charger rather than using WiFi (provided the other end is close to the router)

[@brightsparkmid]

We use 2 core data not the normal 4 pair

[@sward86]

@brightsparkmid The data cable inside the EV Ultra cable has 4 pairs tho?

[@brightsparkmid]

@@sward86 nah you can get one that has just one pair, it’s ev ultra high tuff

[@sward86]

@brightsparkmid Orite, assumed it was the same stuff Artisan uses, which does have 4 pairs

[@brightsparkmid]

Ye so Doncaster do a few variations of the cable, to reduce costs and be competitive we use the high tuff with a single pair inside, it all depends on what you actually need it to do I guess

[@MarcusNailor]

Wonder if anyone makes black tray, could look pretty badass if you made it part of the decor in part of the house 👀

[@alanbaltic]

Missed opportunity in Spit firing that huge Spider! 😢

[@electrician247]

Nice job fellas, enjoyed that!

[@jd2515]

Mate you have fast become one of my favorite KZbinr! If you do Northwest id like to hire you to do a board Change at my property!

[@NBundyElectrical]

Thanks mate. Drop me an email dude 👍

[@TheChipmunk2008]

The Bright Bundy Drilling Co... shades of 90s simpsons

[@AndrewStrydomBRP]

Honestly the size of the Zappi looks like it would be so much easier to terminate, and with rear or bottom entry whereas some of the smaller chargers only allow bottom entry

[@TheChipmunk2008]

4 channels? We had 3 channels and we liked it!

[@estelle6660]

Ziet er netjes uit. Kunnen sommige installateurs nog een voorbeeld aan nemen!

[@66johnpaul]

Although not required to be 600 deep, some cables can be damaged by frost / constant moisture etc if in shallow ground...think it may be down to manufacturer reccomendations. 👍 Tidy job though, have your tools got DSES on them 😂

[@samuelprowse6708]

That spider was humongous

[@ForTheBirbs]

Arti.....who? Lol. Cheers Nick

[@artisanelectrics]

Oi haha

[@ForTheBirbs]

@@artisanelectrics lol

[@firsteerr]

you may have drilled better but did you use three tubes of silicone to glue it to the wall , all artisaned up in an afternoon

[@williamyates2794]

How does installing a zappi pay for 2 sparks 🤔 curious

[@markwestwood2016]

service cable for national grid only goes in at 450....

[@johnwarwick4105]

Wouldn’t use that steel flexible conduit in that situation it will be rotted away in a few years. From experience has a very short life external. Can’t remember what it is called but you used to be able to get some really tough plastic copex type stuff. Super tough can’t cut it with a knife.

[@delspark]

could of used the next size up for the d-line if installed correctly look great no 10mm hole like the linian clips

[@Cablesmith]

Mitch is balling, clocked that 2k belcher on his wrist 👀

[@NBundyElectrical]

I had no idea. Might go missing if you’ve got a buyer 👀

[@Cablesmith]

@@NBundyElectrical you know me mate. I’ve got a buyer for absolutely anything 👌🏼😂

[@richrowley8355]

Nice one Nick.

[@jgrange6705]

What work trousers do you wear?! Thanks love the channel😊

[@Russell900]

Whats the name of that cable? I've never seen 6sq power and data together before. I've only installed a Zappi with SWA and a Harvi monitor device so no need to wire the CT all the way to the charger but this looks like a great alternative.

[@TheRCBiker]

It’s EV Ultra cable from Doncaster cables I believe

[@neilpowell9312]

D-line clips? Much prefer the Linian clips for the Ev-ultra cable.

[@brightsparkmid]

Same, as we both said, ideal for in wood etc where linians are not do great but much prefer the finished product with linian clips

[@cluez3946]

these jobs must take so much longer when filming 😅

[@oldman-trikki]

What laser you using. Mine never seems that bright

[@brightsparkmid]

Nick had his DIY bosh green line one out, I used a professional Dewalt Green line, the Dewalt can seem dim when batteries are low

[@oldman-trikki]

Thanks.

[@alexacb63]

I'm wondering which test, if any, would have shown the N/E reverse (or did you notice before testing), as assuming no upstream RCD from the one built in to the Zappi (so no trip there), on a PME system the Zs would have looked fine, and IR you'd likely have the charger disconnected anyway...

[@NBundyElectrical]

Mitch saw it before testing mate, god knows why they put the terminals in that order 🙃

[@tonywatson1412]

Assume nothing.....like logic . for instance​@@NBundyElectrical

[@tonywatson1412]

Ah.... assume nothing/ eg. Logic

[@AndyK.1]

I think we said you should have moved the CU Nick 😂

[@thattoolguy9432]

I remember that board move vid..the meter tails one really made me cringe... i coined the term "doing a bundy" on site ..youre still the flexicon king bud #Bundycon for 10% off

[@paulblundell8033]

But would Artisan wear safety glasses when drilling the brickwork when mounting the charger 🤔

[@brightsparkmid]

Saftey squint for the win

[@NBundyElectrical]

Maybe if he was in the country

[@paulblundell8033]

@@NBundyElectrical you were probably not able to wear anything after crying over the camera that fell over. You took that very well ! His theme tune should be Holiday by Madonna 😁

[@mrrobot9538]

least you don't need a laser level to drill straight lmao

[@11jeopardy11]

Using Bosch and DeWalt? I thought you were sparkies

[@HAelec1]

There’s no depth stated in regs it’s down to engineering judgement. DNOs have requirements but not for us. Especially under slabs you’ve no issue there However the copex is a bit redundant as you haven’t earthed it so under fault conditions if the line conductor was shorting to the metal copex it wouldn’t trip. Just use SWA it would have been easier. I know it’s not your job so a bit difficult but still a good video and enjoyed watching it! And clearly you’re not happy about external CU and once again you clearly wouldn’t do it

[@johnmotson5063]

Nice beard where you get that from?

[@SteveManning-x6m]

Personally cleats are neater and quicker given all of the fannying around.

[@brightsparkmid]

Ye if we was in a factory where it’s common practise, personally I wouldn’t want a load of cleats attached to the side of my house, I see others do it and I think it looks like they have not got with the times.

[@raymondburke1261]

Maybe adams mum should get a reward/ prise every time she’s mentioned in a video…chocolates or flowers maybe 🤷🏻‍♂️😉

[@NBundyElectrical]

Oh she gets something 👍😬

[@svdleer]

Frustrating that they did not put an extra conduit from the fuseboard, so ugly that the cables run over outside walls on a newbuilt.

[@brightsparkmid]

Not much else we could do, I just don’t get why house builders are not installing a larger supply to garages for this reason

[@svdleer]

@@brightsparkmidYes i understand you have to do it what you have, but i just don't get builders (with newbuilds) don't think about one extra conduit if they are already laying one. Great video btw.

[@Jay369]

Things Bundy does better than Artisan: Angle drilling Pricing Beard growing Adams mom jokes KZbin videos Rear entry ? ? ?

[@brightsparkmid]

Working in general ? lol

[@gctelectrical5555]

Who's mitch?

[@brightsparkmid]

🤚

[@electricalservicesmaroc]

Great 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@ashleybignell2366]

600mm deep is agricultural. Doesn’t apply to domestic, but must be deep enough not to be damaged through normal activity, shovel or tent pegs etc.

[@edglue6138]

Hydro

[@pault4793]

there is no regulation for 600mm deep

[@anthonygray5581]

Ya loosing the plot nick😊😊

[@Ant98986]

Adam’s got old

[@MartinE63]

No problem with that cable run, the ends are clearly visible, the slabs are very suitable protection. At least you didn’t bury it less than 100mm in open ground, liable to be dug, with zero protection like tiles, just like another semi well known KZbin electrician did quite recently, and then when this was pointed out in a non-hostile way in the comments the spark claimed again it’s genuinely 600mm deep…despite very clear reference points like the house wall with standard size brick courses, a meter cupboard, and the 63mm duct itself in the very same footage. It’s embarrassing that rather than just say it was a mistake in the voiceover, or that the ground conditions didn’t allow it to be buried any deeper he just reiterated the 600mm line despite his own direct video evidence to the contrary, mindblowing attitude and it further erodes the low levels of trust the public has in many trades.

[@jamiebourne8047]

I thought it was way too shallow. Under a slab, I wouldn't go the full 600mm, probably 300-400 with marker tape about 100mm down. 600mm in a lawn though for sure👍

[@NBundyElectrical]

You got a link Martin ? I fancy having a look 👍

[@timahad5165]

Who?

[@tonywatson1412]

One doesn't like to point fingers ...at you tube sparkies.. BUT the bright spark in question, hadn't been seen for a while 😔

[@TheRCBiker]

@@NBundyElectricalpossibly this one? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIXOZK2qbsp3hMksi=0QxmsUh1na__UtPD

[@alimack5489]

Standard EV chargers customers who have double garages and can afford them. Along with the 50k car to go with it. Good job though mate 👍

[@jvoric]

What car(s) did they have ?

[@brightsparkmid]

For all your angle 📐 drilling needs get in contact 😂 #brightbundydrilling