I Farmed 1 WEEK of Carmine Rage Island in 5 HOURS... Here's What I Learned (Throne and Liberty)

[@jarack3256]

What to know about drop rates in any Asian MMO? Throne and Liberty being Korean, means that the drop rates and rng are set to asian sweatshop grind. It's set this way, so that you have to spend hours grinding for the most mundane things. As examples, golden rye and shrimp bait. Both of these are common items. Though, go farm them, they drop on the uncommon/rare side. Also note while farming, the rng is set to drop gear crafting mats before anything else.

[@DmChef]

Statically speaking you should run the dungeon 100-200 to get a better statistical look at this. 10 wont really give you an accurate look at drops. I think you just got unlucky here.

[@EhJay_Plays]

@@DmChef bro that’s 10-20 weeks wtf 🤣😭

[@kiroshki]

@@EhJay_Plays Yea doing something the correct way sometimes means a lot of work, who would know... Even for "rough" numbers 50 runs sound more like it, but it can still be super inacurate.

[@theharvest6892]

honestly a lot of the tier 2 dungeon drops are way easier to get by crafting them from lithographs you can buy off of the auction house. it takes lucent but not that much like 150-200 or so per lithograph. pretty easy to farm if you do resistance contracts regularly and sell what you do not need. grinding dungeons in this game for gear is just so not worth it with the amount of time it takes waiting in que and when you do get a group you have a bum healer that does not heal or randoms that do not know mechanics.

[@kiroshki]

For those neerds out there: If you do a run of 10 bosses the chance for you to have x number of purple items from this run is about: 1 item 8% 2 items 19% 3 items 26% 4 items 23% 5 items 13% 6 items 5% 7 items 1.5% 8 items 0.28% (simmilar of getting box from a world boss containing weapon) 9 items 0.03% 10 items 0.001% (winning a lotery is roughly 0.000001% to 0.00001%) If you want to calculate on your own (10!/(2!(10-2)!))0.33^2(1-0.33)^(10-2) put it in wolframalpha, 10 is number of tries and every "2" is the number of success just change every 2 to your succes rate.

[@kiroshki]

P(X=k)=( n!/(k!*(n-k)! )*(p^k)*(1−p)^(n−k) n -number of tries k - number of succes ! - factorial ^ - to the power of

[@EhJay_Plays]

@@kiroshki this math is why I’m a dumb accountant

[@DmChef]

Your doing a great job on these videos. Keep up the great work!

[@EhJay_Plays]

Thanks homie

[@Josh-99]

I've been tracking my Tier 2 drops, and in 46 runs I've gotten 11 purple drops. That's about 24%. That's still a relatively small sample size, but my point about tier 2 dungeons that I have been saying for a while stands: that's too low of a drop rate for difficult PvE content (and yes, it is difficult until your gear makes it trivial -- there are a lot of mechanics in most of them). I feel like you should either get a purple drop, or you should get a chest that's similar to killing a World Boss; it should have Solent (250K sounds fair), 1000 green Stellarite, 5 Trait Unlock stones, and two additional boss token selection chests. It should also have a small (5%) chance to drop a chest that lets you select any piece of gear that the boss drops. This means that even if you aren't getting gear drops, it's still VERY worthwhile to run the 2-stars for Solent and Trait Unlock stones. Many of my guild members don't both with the 2-stars anymore because they take much longer than the 1-stars (especially if you get the aptly named Torture Chamber) and they already get enough Abyss Tokens for the amount they want to farm in a single day anyway.

[@EhJay_Plays]

@@Josh-99 i wish they would add or have the option for, runes / parchments instead of blues, it would speed up progression so much, but then again they don’t want to speed up progression as they want players to play for long… but if they push them away… hmm

[@Josh-99]

@@EhJay_Plays I don't think they really need to worry about progression anymore. Most of the people who started playing at launch are already capped out or close to capped out on skills (it isn't hard to get to level 13 on all skills, including your passives), so "progression" is more vertical at this point, i.e. they are working on their next set of weapons (I finished up Crossbow/Dagger and are working on Bow/Staff). The next round of progression will come with Tier 2 items, but right now everyone who is serious is working on runes and pushing Dimensional Trials. You can't really "progression" your way out of that; you HAVE to do the mechanics or you won't succeed. Even then, 2-star dungeons aren't really about "progression"; it's about getting items that are EXTREMELY difficult to get otherwise. They are also a correction, as it was a TERRIBLE idea to make some items only able to be acquired from World Bosses and Guild Raids in a game with such a heavy focus on PvP. They could throw some progression items into 2-stars to expand their purpose without damaging the game. After all, you can only run two a day.

[@SundayMatinee]

As many have pointed out, 10 runs isn't enough to get a statistically meaningful conclusion on drop rates. That being said, it is interesting to see what an average player can get with a full supply of tokens. I would say my experience is similar, with purples dropping rarely. I still think the drop rate listed by AGS is correct, and your results are probably due to the small sample size, which can deviate from the average. Perhaps enlisting a guild, reddit, or viewers to submit more samples would allow you to get a larger sample size for future research.

[@EhJay_Plays]

It was more to see what you get with a week’s worth of tokens, yeah! I see what people mean though!

[@xzeraCS]

i mean it literally tells u its a 3% chance

[@EhJay_Plays]

it tells you it's a 33% chance of purples but that's not reality

[@kiroshki]

If you do a run of 10 bosses the chance for you to have x number of purple items from this run is: 1 item 8% 2 items 19% 3 items 26% 4 items 23% 5 items 13% 6 items 5% 7 items 1.5% 8 items 0.28% (simmilar of getting box from a world boss containing weapon) 9 items 0.03% 10 items 0.001% (winning a lotery is roughly 0.000001% to 0.00001%)

[@Magoverso]

I want to point out something that I see in others videos - people asking for a pity system because they never drop a purple gear ever, without realizing that the coins/ extra chest thing that every boss drops is the pity system 😅 If you run enough DG you can get any item that they drop crafting the chest with the coins.

[@EhJay_Plays]

@@Magoverso the tokens / chests for crafting the selection chest is basically the reason to run the dungeons!

[@alejo_mendez_editor]

The content Is good bro. Good and useful.. Just add more rithim to the editing and Work on relaxing in front of the camera...don't quit so easy...you are good at it. It just take some time to grow...

[@EhJay_Plays]

@@alejo_mendez_editor thank you! Really only might quit because KZbin is wrongfully destroying my channel unfortunately:/

[@PosthumousPain]

You need thousands of runs to have an accurate representation of the actual drop rates. You sample is extremely, extremely small. It would be very interesting if you manage to compile accurate data from different sources, the main idea of the video is good.

[@EhJay_Plays]

@PosthumousPain yeah it was more supposed to be a fun what can you expect in a week video but I guess people are expecting me to spend weeks of my life for a scientific PhD paper on the drops of a video games dungeon lol

[@K-R-O-L]

so you make stats with only 10 runs ? i'll come back after 500-1000 to have accurate results

[@EhJay_Plays]

@@K-R-O-L see you in years when I can do 500-1000

[@CiscooM]

Loot System is Shiitt in This game and for info I have over 800 hours playtime

[@WorldInventions6]

ya they should instead drop you purple gears 90% if the time so the market crashes and everyone is running around fully traited geared up to the max within a week of playing , ya that sounds better nice feedback kid

[@thedayy]

to night i did 7 8 t1 run all blue items droped.

[@StratosJ]

Ask viewers to help. Make it simple like only listing purples one dropped. I wouldnt mind sending my data to verif y numbers. With this kind of sample size all that you're really telling us is "look at what i dropped this week". It's not really meaningful. But ty for the video.

[@EhJay_Plays]

@@StratosJ i never thought of including viewers, I’m not sure I’m that size yet but very interesting idea thank you!

[@acrazytadpol_]

I like your videos, but to reiterate what I think was already said the analysis of the percentages is alil flawed. Since each drop has its own percentage saying real world is slightly misleading since it will vary at the small sample size you did. All things considered good video, sorry it took you 5-6 hours tho that's brutal. Also it may be worth making a video to show that farming each of the dungeons to make the chest or the selection chest for the dungeons could be a good idea

[@EhJay_Plays]

@@acrazytadpol_ yeah, I feel like a lot of people don’t know about the selection chest which is crazy! The idea was really just a small fun gag around what you can expect in a week, but I guess by saying “real world” I triggered a lot of people who believe I should spend a year compiling data to provide an accurate result for my PhD thesis, lol

[@acrazytadpol_]

@@EhJay_Plays just wanted to save you from the comment madness in the future lol

[@aarondrivesabus]

10 dungeons as your sample size? wtf man, I know that's alot of tokens and you cant go and do 100 runs but this is not a good example of a "real world drop rate"

[@EhJay_Plays]

@@aarondrivesabus I mean the point was to run a weeks worth… hence the title. I can do a bigger sample but unfortunately it’s quite hard to spend 3 weeks to make 1 video LOL

[@aarondrivesabus]

@@EhJay_Plays Well I already made that point.. but youre saying this is a good example of what you should get which is so wrong lol

[@Magoverso]

"10 runs?? You should sell your soul to the game, make 10 alts in different servers to run 10 DG each, back to back without rest on the same day, so MAYBE, and I repeat maybe this 100 runs would actually hold SOME value!!! How do you expect to release your scientific paper on this subject with only 10 runs as a sample size. OMG, this data is useless, and doesn't help at all" 😤🤓 Meanwhile the guy only wants to show a rough idea of what a week of DG will drop. And also, by analysing the sample size and the results it's easy to conclude that (surprise surprise) the % chance that the game shows (in game) it's accurate. He got a little bit less than the average expected, but sometimes we got higher, and in the long run (the so wanted 7 millions DG runs data) the data will be like the chance % informed in game. Also, I think there is laws in a lot of countries that requires that this type of game shows the correct % chance to obtain the itens.

[@kiroshki]

Rough idea would be a 50 boss run. Everyone of us made at least few of those 10 boss runs, everyone with some dose of intelect understand it can be rly bad or rly good or in the middle depends on luck. Video's title is "I Farmed 1 WEEK of Carmine Rage Island in 5 HOURS... Here's What I Learned" He learned nothing tbh, we learned nothing. For an enetertaining puprouse for some it may or may not be fun to watch it. Comments are fine imho.

[@Magoverso]

​@@kiroshki fine. get together with other people that want more runs, do yours, put on spreadsheet and sent to him. then everyone do the same, so he can have the good data that you'll want then we will discover that the game % chance tells the truth already :) hahaha also, the main point: it's not a scientific paper for a phD kinda of thing, it's just a guy sharing some numbers on his experience. If it's useful or not, like you said, propably for entertainment purpose yeah, but people demanding "100-200 runs" it's just crazy imo haha

[@EhJay_Plays]

@@kiroshki i literally put the title as 1 week of dungeon farming, and 1 week of drops, and am showing EXACTLY that…

[@WorldInventions6]

ever learned how to chill or provide feedback in a more reasonable manner?, delete the game mf your head is too square for all this

[@dcannonw6993]

Just copied content and pointless information

[@EhJay_Plays]

@@dcannonw6993 as far as I know, literally no one else does this - also, don’t watch then, go touch grass lmfaooo