I Finally Found That Christian Beauty and the Beast Play...and I Have Way More Questions Now

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Oops, dropped this KZbin link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4qvpKGqqqlko5o

[@epicbaddiewholovesgod5132]

It's taken down but somebody recorded the entirely of the evermore cover

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

@@epicbaddiewholovesgod5132 damn, I was so happy to share the whole thing with the world

[@epicbaddiewholovesgod5132]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff I saw some parts of wheb belle was reading the bible to the beast, belle praying to Jesus, and the beats dying on an onstage blog post I think

[@narottamcecil1803]

Hey, even though this play wasn’t from a church. This play was from a Christian school in the Philippines, so it still counts, that I saw which was a production of the musical adaptation of the animated DreamWorks movie “Madagascar”, I think you should check it out.

[@A113-p9e]

“You think God stays in heaven cause he too lives in fear of what he’s created?” - Spy Kids 2

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Ok but the spy kids movies were our citezen kane.

[@Aisha_Luv]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff omg have u done a spy kids vid? If not you totally should!

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff the wolves having the “have you found Jesus” banner made me and my boyfriend fall off my bed in laughter, it was hilarious and honestly made a morning after some pretty crappy sleep, so thank you so much, I love stage shows but I also love seeing bad productions to laugh out

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

@@Aisha_Luv I totally will when I get the chance!

[@BritishMotherfucker]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff Fr

[@Miowirika]

This play is even funnier in the context with hamilton because the actor who plays lefou is the same guy who played alexander hamilton, and it's technically set in a real similar time period. imagining hamilton without being killed by burr and instead, being traumatised so deeply by the effects of his religion, he devotes himself to becoming the incessant adlib wing man of gaston who is a stereotypical right-wing Christian but functions as a leftist atheistic hater

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

And then you realize that Gaston is washington 💀

[@ilikebread757]

We're doing Beauty and the Beast this year at my school, and too many people in the cast are joking about turning it Christain now. So that's.... just great. /j

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

oh yaaaay :/

[@elio6734]

Dang... you were an extra in Love, Simon?!? Cool!!

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Yeah it was pretty fun. 💛

[@wendymccoy1093]

Also at Be Our Guest in Disney World you can order the grey stuff. it's vanilla topping a sponge cake.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Omg we have an answer to this decades long mystery. 😳

[@amitmeir8109]

23:28 According to Disney, the Grey Stuff is a sweet mixture of crumbled cookies and cream cookies vanilla pudding and whipped cream, and it is served on top of a scalloped cookie

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

That's dope!

[@halfpintrr]

Your queenly regalia is quite nice! I love the cape, I want one for daily wear lol. Also I’d love to hear your thoughts on the Disney adaptation

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Thank you! I'll cover the Disney version for sure. ☺️

[@TikoVerhelst]

I had no clue it would be the Christians who would give me the best version of Beauty and the Beast. Like, Mrs. Potts is giving massive sassy aunt vibes, Gaston is the true violent villain he was meant to be, Belle is a simp instead of pseudo-feminist 'not like the other girls cause she reads', the three girls from the village are even more energetic than the animated versions. Lefou is just.... even more sad.... and the Beast sounds like what happened if Edward from Twilight became a furry and more adult. I love all of it!

[@wendymccoy1093]

How much you wanna bet they did this because the live action movie made Lafou (I have no idea how to spell that lol) gay.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

You know, I hope not but you would not be the first person to assert that line of thinking. Poor Lafou, that kid genuinely has great stage presence too.

[@wendymccoy1093]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff Honestly the acting in this is better than expected.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

@@wendymccoy1093 yeah fr

[@late_prince8945]

I really thought her favorite book would be the bible.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Right??

[@HannahJones-yx1vu]

Okay so let me tell you a story I am in 8th grade right now and we are doing beauty and the beast Jr and we are working really hard and basically a hard rule is no recording the other actors for our privacy and all that stuff so the girl that got cogsworth decided to ingore the rule and record our voices singing human again without our consent and admitted to us we all freak out and started asking why would they do that and they literally said memories guys memories we were all pretty pissed off and I am seriously considering telling the director because she said that when she told us that this was our one and only warning but she is only a sixth grader and maybe she didn't fully understand the severity of the situation. But what is stopping her from recording our faces instead of our voice the next time or post it I have practice tomorrow thoughts on what I should do please feel free to comment Edit I figured out that I am not going to report her but if she does this again I will

[@ninakrishnamurthy6674]

30:20 Uh, you realize you're implying that Belle is a furry, right? And considering Beauty and the Beast WAS my childhood, I reeeeeeeeeeeeally don't need to ponder the question "Is Belle a furry?".

[@westonmarks925]

39:07 wait you watch Monk too? How have I never found your channel before? Omg we have like the same media tastes.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Yes! I adore monk! I have one video so far about the garbage strike episode and when the strike is over, I plan to cover more episodes.

[@kc-lp6wg]

I had just thought "Gaston looks old" you mentioned the age gap. *high 5*

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I don't actually have any way to verify but I'm glad I'm not the only one with questions.

[@andrewshelly211]

This makes every cheap adaptation cashing in on the Disney version feel like masterpieces. I've seen lots of cheap American Christian kids media on KZbin and it's so cringey. Even if they have a positive message they just have to try and force in bible talk and say 'Everything you do is for Jesus/God!!!'

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Yeah like I think it's great if you want to make art about your religious experience but man...why can't we just watch beauty and the beast???

[@andrewshelly211]

I’m not a religious person and I honestly don’t care what religions people believe in, but it really annoys me when people who take it so seriously try and shove it down people’s throats. By the way, I’d definitely watch a video of you covering the Disney version 😊👍🏻

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

@@andrewshelly211 same here. like even when I was in the church I didn't like telling other people about it unprompted. Thanks for the feedback as I will take literally any excuse to cover the original.

[@willlyon7129]

Even the original fairy tales had some religious aspects and metaphors.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I'm no expert but from what I know the story is potentially thousands of years old and possibly inspired by the ancient Greek myth of Cupid and Psyche as well as an old Norse myth. The most well known structure was written by an aristocrat who wanted it to be an allegory for arranged marriage which was the norm of her time.

[@dlanieymp]

Chip did an ate that whole play 🤭

[@patrickmgaddis]

Has it really been a year since the witch cursed you into doing this video?

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

It sure has. She seems to be leaving me alone as of late.

[@patrickmgaddis]

I have another version of Beauty and the Beast that you haven't covered. Want it?@@AveryTalksAboutStuff

[@Miowirika]

HOW DARE YOU EXIST AS AN EXTRA ON LOVE SIMON AND TELL US SO LATE AVERY????

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I'M SORRY!! If you manage to see me in the next rewatch let me know. 😭

[@wuvcookies247]

The fact that Gaston is dressed like a dad going fishing doesn't help the suspicious looking age gap between him and Belle lol

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Like they're probably not as far apart in age as they seem but it just made me very nervous. 😬

[@wuvcookies247]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff if anything it adds another layer to Gaston's character since he's kind of a creep anyway haha

[@noahhutchins5164]

If they want to do Christian themed shows that's fine, but do one that already has that message in it. Like, Jane Eyre the musical would honestly be perfect. Jane literally sings a song where she prays to God to save Rochester's soul. With that being said, I'm glad this wasn't as offensive as Scamilton Also, I swear I thought you were adding those punch sound affects. They are straight up showing the most abusive Gaston and Lafou relationship in their version. It's like they wanted to punish Lafou for being gay after Disney made him gay in the 2017 version

[@shelbymckinney8888]

Speaking of that 2017 live action remake, I can't be the only one who thought that change was poorly executed. That movie had many flaws but that particular change was poorly done it was almost unnecessary (his "gay scene" was basically just him dancing with another man at the end, which even then could have been seen as a joke without prior knowledge). Then again that entire movie is filled with problems and changes that were poorly executed. Anyways, God bless and watch The Owl House!

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Right?? Like I think for me the sheer act of changing material is just super annoying. Like what about doing Jesus Christ Super Star for Easter??? Could've been perfect. 😅 And yep, when I showed my brother this video he straight up thought that I had added those in and was confused. Poor Lafou deserved better and honestly that actor is low-key carrying this show. (He's also clearly a child whereas Gaston comes across like a college kid. 😬)

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

@@shelbymckinney8888 yeah I can't speak for gay men on how they want to be portrayed but I will say that to me it felt lackluster. I wanted Lafou to have a cute canon bf at the end after everything Gaston put him through.

[@noahhutchins5164]

@@shelbymckinney8888 I will say, I did enjoy the 2017 remake, but was so disappointed by the handling of LaFou being gay. Personally, I always felt the character was gay even from the original. However, I was looking forward to his portrayal in the remake since they said he was sort of in love with Gaston. Like, I knew it wouldn't happen, but I sort of wanted Gaston to die, and LaFou got sent over the edge watching his love die and blamed the beast. So then, he'd be the one to basically murder the beast. Instead, we get him accidentally dancing with a man who enjoyed being out in drag. Representation???

[@emilygracey]

The Jane Eyre musical was ok, just don't research the guy who played Rochester.

[@pembrokelove]

Oh I forgot also I love telling this story to other people who have gotten out: My stepmother and I were once having a discussion where I sort of jokingly-but-not-really said, “well, at least we can all agree Jesus wasn’t that blonde-haired, blue-eyed, Clapton-looking guy in all of our storybooks here.” and she was shocked I’d even say that much. I pointed out the average height, skin and eye color, and hair texture of people living in that region of the world at that time, and she said the following sentence to me: “But that’s how they knew he was really better than them, he was white!” And that just hung in the air for an *uncomfortably* long moment.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

😳😳😳 and here I thought I had heard it all...wow

[@pembrokelove]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff it wasn’t until I got out of evangelicalism that I really realized how racist it all was. There are a few ex-fundie creators I really like, and it’s always interesting for me to watch people slowly getting out and then having that moment where they’re like “…and it’s racist, too?!?! Wtaf???” It’s such a damaging society.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

@@pembrokelove yeah, I know there are anti racists Christians but the institution of evangelism is so toxic and can really be a breeding ground for racism. Speaking of ex fundie creators, do you watch Fundie Friday because I love them!

[@pembrokelove]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff yes! I follow Jenn, and the other two pages I really like are Ex-Fundie Diaries, because Ellie is just such a dear, sweet girl and she has her home school and AWANA binders that she teaches from to help spot signs you’re in a cult; and Jordan and McKay, who are ex-LDS, because they married in the temple after his mission and their shelves broke around the time they became parents - when they realized that they didn’t want their child growing up with all of the violence and confusion of the church. There are some really good ones out there. Ellie from Ex-Fundie diaries is the one I love to watch because she’s all the way out, but still growing so much every day. It’s hard not to smile along with her and to feel so proud of her.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

@@pembrokelove I'll have to check those other two channels out! I feel so much more community from the others who have left than I ever did in the church.

[@billciphergirl6049]

Honestly, I believe the reason it felt so much more disgusting in Scamilton is becuase the basis of the 'story' is real life. Dramatised, sure but it's depicting real people's lives nonetheless. Having The Beast become Christian isn't having a huge amount of disrespect. Making Hamilton convert to christianity and blaming him for his son's death is. He was a real man, and him and his family truly did suffer from the loss of their child.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

That's a great point and I think you're right. There's just something about making assumptions on a real person's life that'll always be icky.

[@lizf440]

Right? Especially with the whole song at the end about who will tell your story and then they take his story and treat it like a play thing

[@clubkayserrecords]

11:59 - "Oh my god we're in Cats!" - I should not have laughed as hard as I did when you said that! 😂

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Lol, cats still haunts me 😂

[@chiara1194]

Omg George Washington and Hamilton as Gaston and Lefou. Love it. I’ve watched Scamilton way too many times.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Lol, I was shook when I realized 😂

[@madilynbarnes5365]

I knew it was Washington as soon as he sang with his flat and cracked his voice and how old he looked. Didn't realize that was hamilton though

[@laundrie]

I thought Washington was the beast, but it's genuinely hard to tell. Knowing this church it could be double cast 😅

[@Smogget]

"Don't call your own dad an old man!" Yeah, he's younger than Gaston!

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Oh dear 😅

[@madilynbarnes5365]

Honestly. Gaston looks and acts 45

[@RenaDeles]

I mean talking about the unfairness of cursing chip, we also need to talk about how the Disney animated movie so heavily implies Beast was *also* a kid when he got cursed. Which yeah let's teach children to open the door for strangers and let them in, very good lesson.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Actually there's a pretty good theory since we see that he's an adult when he's cursed in sequels that he actually had until his 21st year as a beast not 21 years of age and they were all frozen since time appears to move slower at the castle so he was not in fact a child.

[@amberwingtundrawing776]

I do feel bad for Chip but no one ever mentions the dog got cursed too? The dog and the 8 yr old probably shouldve been exempt from the curse

[@leahdavis9434]

​@@AveryTalksAboutStuff that's way worse because now he's at minimum 40 and Belle is 16

[@lagunapiper7489]

To me the fairy wasn't all that great a person either. In all versions she basically punished everyone for something one person did, which always bothered me because that's how my grandma would punish us. If someone else did something and even when the rest of us weren't involved we got punished too. Seeing her do that to the rest of the people living in that castle because of the prince just always irked me.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

yeah I never really understood that part of the story and versions of the story that try to explain it don't really cut it as far as I've seen

[@BoxHeadsOfOlympus]

Also wasn’t the prince a kid when it happened, because a kid not letting a stranger in to their house or accepting gifts from them seems pretty non punishable to me

[@lagunapiper7489]

@@BoxHeadsOfOlympus You're right. I just didn't mention it cause they changed it in the live action to make him older and I'm not sure about his age in this version but in the original yeah she basically cursed a kid and I guess we were supposed to believe he "deserved" it.

[@cervanera2228]

I have good news for you, you were right! In the original version the fairy is straight up evil and it's said so. In general, fairy in folklore are not good most of the time, imagine them as chaotic neutral unless stated otherwise and their action will make much more sense.

[@Dreigonix]

Yeah, you do not mess with the Fair Folk. XD

[@pembrokelove]

I’m so sad for Church Mrs Potts. Who says she wanted to change back and lose her wicked ass gold arm.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Lol, right??

[@annajensen7360]

Sorry this is somewhat late, but if you're still interested in collecting versions of Beauty and the Beast, there's a 1952 animated Russian version that I would love to see you cover. I know it was dubbed in english in 1998 but there are probably english subtitled versions floating around online anyways. It is quite old and carefully hand-animated through rotoscoping, a very interesting piece of animation history if you ask me, and it shows the Russian variation of the story. edit: someone else already brought it up, my bad

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Thank you for reminding me and watching this video! Is that the version where Tim Curry did the English dub or am I mixing it up with another request?

[@annajensen7360]

​@@AveryTalksAboutStuff Yes, it is, I looked it up just now and was kind of jarred by the change of music, which no longer sounds authentically russian, but it's not bad, especially compared to the subtitled versions I've found so far (there are some truly embarrassing errors, translating things too literally so a soup is "friendly" instead of "hearty," not explaining certain Russian words, etc.) So I think I would overall recommend the Tim Curry dub, even if it feels uncanny to my ears, and if you have time afterwards to listen to the original's music after you've seen the story in english. Thank you so much, this adaptation means a whole lot to me. (Here's a youtube version of the english dub I found btw, and also no pressure to do this any time soon or even at all, I'm just excited to share my niche and obscure interest kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ2bi56FZpaioM0)

[@cartoongirlforlife1413]

whats sad is that is still less boring to me than disneys live action batb and the girl playing belle can sing maybe emma can sing too but i wouldnt know since autotone ruined her voice in that movie . belles dress her also looked prettier ,how is it this was more fun than the live action despite a lower budget.. minus the god stuff it wasn't so bad

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I know, the thing about these church plays (or at least this one) is that if it wasn't propaganda it would kind of be great lol.

[@skylermccoy5082]

I looked into the grey stuff(aka a 5 section google search) and I'm just seeing a bunch of recipes for vanilla pudding and oreo mousse and also that the live action grey stuff was Caviar lol I also read that the grey stuff might just be Some kind of old timy mousse but I'm also leaning towards Disney just made it up and now they profit off of oreos and pudding lol

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

It was a conspiracy made up by Big Oreo the whole time. 😳

[@springshowers4754]

I've heard that it was duck pate, since it tends to look greyish sometimes.

[@memethyst]

they have it at disney world, it's like a texture in between frosting and mousse and it is oreo flavored, they put it on top of chocolate cupcakes

[@Shadowfur]

@@springshowers4754 Could have been like a foie gras pate, would have been a very delicate food to prepare. You show off your wealth with foie gras.

[@JillyCookeMusic]

Le Fou is Hamilton and the Beast is Washington, which makes 37:24 incredibly prophetic (biblical pun not intended).

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I thought Washington plays Gaston so now I'm wondering if he plays both and what kind of weird symbolism is involved in that decision.

[@GPS_DS]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuffJames Madison is the one playing Gaston, he just looks pretty similar to the guy playing Washington and Beast.

[@bexstar]

I'd love to see you talk about the original Disney version :)

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Good to know! I think I want to talk about it too. 😊

[@tinchick2]

Evermore isn't actually in the stage show. It originated in the Disney live action movie. If I Can't Love Her is Beast's song in the stage show. Both are excellent though.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Ah! I've never actually seen the stage show live outside the parks so I was a bit confused.

[@distressedcondiments3113]

If you’re looking to cover different versions of Beauty and the Beast to discuss, might I suggest the 1979 Czech movie Panna a Netvor? It’s definitely obscure and quite spooky. I’m dying to see a few more people talk about it!

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Thank you for letting me know! I'll add it to the list. 🙂

[@annabananawitz]

Yessss! I love "Panna a Netvor" sooo much. I was thinking the same thing! It's the only version with an avian version of the beast, and is considered a fantasy/horror. Oh no, it seems I have also dropped a KZbin link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nn_KeoqjmbJqrNU (captions for English subtitles) Another obscure option is the TV Series "Beauty and the Beast" (1987-1990) starring Ron Perlman (Hellboy). This version's Belle is an attorney named Catherine. She is abducted, injured, and left for dead when Vincent (the Beast) rescues her. He takes her to his home in Tunnel Town, a utopia located in the underground tunnels of NY, to heal her. Catherine recovers, takes a self defense class, and becomes Assistant District Attorney. The series is a crime drama with Catherine and Vincent working together to protect the people of New York. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j365qoGJqpZ3q6s

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

@@annabananawitz yessss! Both of these are on my list ☺️

[@KaliqueClawthorne]

There is this french real-life-movie of the beauty and the beast where they had a nice idea of how the beast became one. It was a king and his young wife. He loved going out hunting with his friends and his dogs. One day he told his wife about this very beautiful deer he saw and how he wanted to hunt it. She asked him not to do it. He did and when he shot his arrow into the deer she turned into his wife and the sky changed and with a voice of thunder the god of nature spoke of the deer as his young daughter and how he has to punish the king for it, so he turned the king into a beast. After that it is the normal fairytale. But with a little bit of this more mystical ideas.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Interesting! I just found a gorgeous old copy of beauty and the beast in goodwill!

[@nycoleleff256]

In the stage show Belle discovered Maurice is missing because Lefou walked by wearing Maurice’s scarf that was lost in the woods. Idk why they changed it to a journal in this one though

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Huh, I didn't know that. 🤔

[@PaulonotPaul8]

Good bit to start the video, and the magic effect was better than anything in the 2010 Last Airbender. The most offensive thing about this was no mustache on Maurice! Wtf man?! Sorry I'm so worked up over that..oh right they incorporated god into it too, well there's that too. You should def do a video on the original, and I also hope at some point you can get to that 87 cbs adaption (if you need another link to that lemme know).

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Thank you! It felt like one of my old school videos doing a skit again. The effects were swiped from a harry potter overlay video and I'm shocked they don't look worse lol. I've just decided that if there's an adaptation of beauty and the beast and I can get my hands on it then I'll cover it and add it to the playlist so keep an eye out for all that good stuff. The '87 one will be particularly fun I think. 🙂

[@PaulonotPaul8]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff Well done again. More beauty and the beast isn't a bad thing...unless it's this (in fairness to them I thought it would be worse..but goddang you gotta have a tache on Maurice). Looking forward to your reaction to that series. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do ☺

[@W3EVILGENIUS]

Honestly, Lefou absolutely carried the whole play in this

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Agreed...he's the same kid who was Hamilton so he seriously does have talent.

[@shelbymckinney8888]

Yeah know, I recently saw a video that features the Beast Supervising Animator Glen Keane talking about animating the Beast transformation scene at end. He basically described as being a spiritual transformation and even sighting 2 Corinthians 5:17 as one of his inspirations. So there be some spiritual themes applied to Beauty and the Beast (both the story in general and the 1991 version) and don't think you need to shoehorn Jesus and the bible so thickly to do it. A beauty to the story that lacking in this production.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I totally agree! If they had just done beauty and the beast normally and then had a mini sermon about that I think that would've worked out because it's all about love and forgiveness and acceptance.

[@shelbymckinney8888]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff I feel like VeggieTales is really one of the few pieces of Christian media that has a fanbase both within and outside the faith. That and Prince of Egypt. Not trying to make a request, just given a shout-out.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

@@shelbymckinney8888 No, I hear you that's really true. VeggieTales is so funny and genuinely original.

[@memethyst]

the grey stuff is like cookies and cream frosting on a chocolate cupcake, they have it at disney world and they were right about it being delicious :)

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Nice!

[@GiantRobotsConquerTheWorld]

So, my guess as to why the bookshelf isn't real is because books get heavy quickly. For part of the set that needs to be moved on and off quickly, even on rollers, a bookshelf of actual books seems like domething that could easily go wrong.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

This is true I never thought of that.

[@elphbwckd212]

The beast change in the beginning isn't a quick change. It is a different actor playing the prince. That is why they don't light their faces. The actor runs off and the beast actor, who is already in full makeup, comes on. This is how it is done in every production since Broadway.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Ah, that makes sense.

[@bookishnewt8468]

36:15 - Accidental Ally moment right there. Up until the reminder that this is a christian altered version the performance was pretty good. Every time it came up it felt like my brain was buffering. Just out of the blue like a slap in the face.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Yeah it kind of hurt because there were genuinely things I liked about this one when it was just regular b&b. Like papa and lumiere we're a lot of fun and also belle was pretty well cast.

[@overlydramaticpanda]

I mean...in some ways it's definitely better than Scamilton (in terms of singing, acting, overall energy levels in the cast, not having to censor lyrics/cut songs halfway through), but in some ways it's worse since at least Scamilton never once let you forget it's an illegal piece of religious propaganda. With this, you can actually genuinely start getting into the performance and story of the thing for quite long stretches of time and then suddenly BOOM! You're hit with an incredibly forced prayer scene and you're just there like "oh yeah...this is just trying to convert me to their brand of Christianity...". Like, this seems as though it could have been a genuinely good amateur production if only they'd paid for the license and not forced in the religious angle and in some ways, that makes this hurt more than Scamilton (excluding the homophobic sermon at the end of that one) since that was kind of obviously doomed from the very beginning... And it's not as if good and popular religious themed musicals aren't already a thing: Joseph and the Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat was literally written for primary school-aged kids (7-11) to be able to perform so it's hardly complicated or inappropriate (barring the scene with Potiphar's Wife but even that can be staged so that it's not obvious what's actually going on), Godspell tells multiple stories and parables from the New Testament and even directly quotes the Bible in many scenes and does it all in a fun way that actively encourages the cast to show off their various talents, Jesus Christ Superstar...actually, they probably wouldn't want to do that one... But the point still stands.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I agree with you! I also find it funny because Hamilton already has religious under/overtones they could have just done regular Hamilton I just don't get it.

[@theasexualvampire13]

Your commentary for this one was off the charts hilarious. And as someone who has been involved in Christian plays before, I can say with a surprising certainty that Christian kids love to act drunk.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Thank you! I can also attest to this as when I was in church all the kids thought being drunk was the wildest thing ever. 😅

[@rosexknight]

I love that the implication of this play is that Belle prayed to God/Jesus to help her see the good in The Beast, and then she fell in love with him. Did God/Jesus make Belle fall for Beast? That's kinda how it comes off as XD

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

God is cupid confirmed.

[@BopperBippity]

9:17 Funny thing that this should be mentions because I once saw a meme on Reddit about how mrs gultch (the old lady who is the Kansas counterpart to the witch in the wizard of oz movie) being the original Karen, and legit there was a comment saying that Dorothy was a Karen and it genuinely kind of gave off the same energy as the “wElL aCtUaLlY bElLe Is ThE sTuCk Up OnE”/“bElLe Is An NlOg” type shit

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Lol, I totally agree. Some people just use classic content to try to feel smarter than everyone else.

[@supersnackbros2423]

I'll address the elephant in the room. They put this on around the same time as the remake. And this is a church. This is basically "if you're going to make a character in your remake gay, then we'll do our own remake."

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

It does feel like they hate lafou just a little too much, doesn't it?

[@VicForAChange]

Fun fact, the Bible doesn’t say hate the sin love the sinner. It says love they neighbor multiple times but The Whole hate the sin love the sinner was a Gandhi thing

[@ponytailproductions2503]

I can’t believe we’re living in a world with TWO Christian Beauty and the Beast plays (This and the Church of the Rock version)

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I literally just filmed a video about the church of the rock play today omg 😳

[@andrelott6920]

I also would like to see a video of Disney’s Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)!

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

It's official then! It'll happen soon 😀

[@melanieklaus4875]

Can we talk about the ugly ruffle they gave Belle's dress because this is a church and seeing a woman's shoulders would be too scandalous.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I thought the same thing lol.

[@bryaneastman2395]

Such a cute intro! The awkward banter was masterful.*chef kiss*

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

aw, thank you so much! I decided to do it five minutes before filming and genuinely didn't know if it would even cut together lol.

[@angieb1297]

Why was I expecting when the beast got transformed back into a human to be Jesus? Be Like: Belle: I was hoping Jesus would give him a second chance Beastly Jesus: You rang my child

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

LOL I would have died!

[@way2dead4u]

Candlehands is the wiccan version of Radiohead in my head cannon

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

lol I love it

[@tajtay]

My guesses before watching either 1) he’s a beast because God punished him for turning away the old lady 2) Belle and her dad are missionaries trying to convert him and when he accepts Christ he turns back into human Have you seen 2011 Beastly? If your feeling modern Beauty and the Beast

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I think both your versions would have been better just from a narrative consistency point. And believe it or not, I'm watching beastly right now and wondering how soon I can justify another B&B vid lol.

[@tajtay]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff I assumed they weren’t going to reference magic/ enchantment but I guess I was wrong about them! Lol. I haven’t seen beastly in forever I just remember Mary Kate Olsen in it lol. Oh what was your Instagram I wanna follow!

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

@@tajtay lol right? My old youth group leader had a "conversation" with us about the magic in beauty and the beast because she was, "concerned it was a gateway to the occult". 😅 You can find me on insta @ someonecalledavery

[@steamedtoast64]

You know, excluding all the preaching stuff, this actually was pretty good. The cast gives it their all, the singing is better than scamilton, it's still not very good because if said preaching, but at least it's better than the shitty live action remake.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Yeah I have to agree. Everyone is pretty well cast and talented. The girl who played Belle was perfect for the part and they seemed to be having fun.

[@ObijeeTeeVee]

James Corden's church when he's stateside lmao

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Lolol can you imagine???

[@ObijeeTeeVee]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff prolly not though cause you just know he woulda had tah ask tah play Beast lol

[@twististired]

though my school doesnt do horrible covers of famous musicals, its still embarrassing that i got the lead role of the 2022 christmas play. send help guys.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

You got this! 😁

[@ruthweeg8286]

Please Please PLEASE talk about the 1985 movie Lady Hawk it's a very different take on Beauty and the Beast

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I will! Thanks 😊

[@kgebdani563]

The fact lefou is played by the same guy as Alex Hamilton still shocks me Edit: It's been a year and I rewatched this video and realized Cogsworth is Aaron Burr

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Omg right??

[@andrelott6920]

I actually liked this and I thought that it was better than Scamilton and I'm also glad that this wasn't over an hour long!

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I'm very glad this one wasn't over an hour. 😅 This one was definitely better than scamilton, I will say that.

[@Marylulusart]

Is the actor for Gaston the same for king George the III?!

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Gaston and lafou are washington and Hamilton

[@mistresskupo]

I'm surprised they left Lafou in the production, him being gay and all. ETA: I have YT captions on and when you said "poor Chip" my captions said "porn Chip". I was eating at the time and nearly spit out my food all over my computer. I was like "That's not where I was expecting Christian B&B to go".

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Cursed 🤢🤮

[@alexlikestodraw458]

Beauty and the Bootleg.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

tale as old as crime

[@arglebargle23fnord]

🎶 A mic? Onstage? That's too expensive! 🎶

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

🎶 there must be more than quiet echoed songs🎶

[@felixhenson9926]

At 38:10 as the music crests your cats tail popping up right with the music has me pmsl 😂

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

LOL Peri is all about the finesse XD

[@styxxalembers]

Answer to 23:22 : The "grey stuff" is fattened duck/goose liver served on a cracker, you do not see that dish no longer because the terrible part was what the ducks and geese have to go through just to get a fat enough liver.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Copy, that also sounds very gross 🤢

[@styxxalembers]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff People actually considered it a delicacy back before it was found out about the process, it's also why Disney land has the grey stuff as cookies-and-cream ice cream.

[@FlygonJinn]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff it tastes bad too. At least it did that one time I was a kid and we were at some fancy pants restaurant and I put some on my bread because I thought it was butter 🤢

[@toshi9742]

I always find it cringey when peeps push the whole ‘Jesus gave them one more chance’ because it implies that those you love only died cos you didn’t pray hard enough/Jesus didn’t think they deserved another chance etc. That and kids will then think that they can save their loved ones from death by praying. Non Christian version would be when a show or film has someone on the verge of death but then survive because ‘they wanted to live more’- implying everyone else didn’t lol. It’s an extremely horrible idea to put into people’s heads tbh and always shows a lack of foresight of how others will perceive those words (which is a common issue in many religions)

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I agree. It implies some people hold more value than others and/or places guilt on them or their loved ones for illness and death. Even if that's not the intention it's still how it comes across.

[@toshi9742]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff Xx

[@elphbwckd212]

They 100% stole the broadway script. I've been Lumiere in this show twice and it is definitely the musical script, not the movie.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Interesting...I'm not surprised as they most famously stole Hamilton.

[@o.s8573]

This church honestly missed a trick by not doing Les Mis. As much as I love it, it is blatant christian propaganda and has a religious message in your face the entire time. Jean Valjean is literally saved by a vicar who shows him the forgiveness of God.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Oh yeah my old pastor loved les mis and did a whole sermon about it it's right there.

[@ashleypureheart4789]

Why did the constant punching sounds remind me of the constant whipcracks in Johnny Test?

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

The sound effects were more cartoony than any cartoon version of the movie I have seen. 💀

[@bootsthecat6718]

"don't get used to the Christian content, I swear to God" 🤣

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Pun not intended, but sometimes it just works out like that. 😂

[@LadyEvilest]

I thought Christian Beauty and the Beast would have Beast accept the rose, do a tango with it in his mouth and present it to Lumier. (That's the reason Sodom was destroyed, you know.) And Belle would be uninterested in any book that wasn't the Bible. As for the grey stuff, in the time and place, it was likely a liver pate. However, if you go to a restaurant in Disney Land and order "The Grey Stuff", you'll get vanilla pudding mixed with crushed Oreos.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Lol I didn't know what to expect but weirdly it's not nearly as bad as their Hamilton. I heard about trying the grey stuff at Disney. Maybe someday I will. 🙂

[@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose]

Oh no, and here I thought you were just doing Beauty & the Beast: A Latter-Day Tale (2007). Yes, that is a real movie, giving the classic fairytale a modernized, Christian themed setting. No, I haven't seen it, I just know that it exists. 😆🌹✝ (Here's hoping Crimson Flower is still on its way for your BATB revuniverse 🤞).

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Oh good God...maybe one day I'll get to see that masterpiece. 😭 Crimson Flower is very much still on the list. I kept wishing that was the version I was covering during this... experience.

[@only257]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff at least it’s not the star wars holiday special 😂

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

@@only257 honestly I think scamilton was worse than the holiday special

[@only257]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKDcn2acpNd0ipo

[@UJEvans]

That opening sketch made me choke on my popcorn. LoL And yes I made popcorn to watch this

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Omg thank you! 😂 (Sorry for the choking hazard).

[@pembrokelove]

11:59 I just need to know, for science, if anyone else just instinctively yelled “oooh! Stupid childproof caps!” the moment that someone is thrown suddenly and unceremoniously into a frightening dark.

[@spsaofficalchannel]

Why is this better than Hamilton? Hamilton felt like they were phoning it in and didn’t really care/only had a base level understanding of the original show… this feels like they legitimately cared! Is it because it’s a stolen Disney movie that everyone’s seen/grown up with? Now that I’m typing this that’s probably the reason…

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I don't know but it really does seem like they're having more fun here.

[@Livsophiie]

"no one acts like a much bigger dick than gaston" i lost it at that 😂😍 and the "sorry" afterwards... me after pretty much every joke i make hehe

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Thank you I'm here all week 😂

[@I_Love_Musicals]

I did beauty and the beast jr in like the 6th grade and it really seemed better than this. Except Gaston was 2 years younger than Belle.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

If you haven't seen this church do Hamilton it's way worse than this if you can believe it. They at least had a decent belle and lumiere here

[@I_Love_Musicals]

I saw multiple videos (including yours) about their Hamilton. As a big Hamilton fan I was completely offended. King George III specifically got on my nerves. They cut his 3rd song and still he messed up You’ll Be Back. The acting I guess was decent and than Its Quiet Uptown made me scream. Also I showed my friends and they say they’re going to haunt me by yelling “but I’m not afraaid, my hope is in Jesuuus.”

[@daviddace6677]

This is v v v random but do you play dnd? You seem like you’d be fun to play dnd with lol

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Yep! Natasha got me into it since she's a dice maker and we're both actually working on a DnD podcast that we were invited to play on. 😊 I'm easily the least entertaining cast member but I'm having a lot of fun filming episodes.

[@daviddace6677]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff ooooo that’s so cool!!!

[@Emisop]

25:43 I HAD THAT BEAST TOY (and a Belle but she didn't look like that)

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Yes!!

[@feathertailfanspoofs]

I feel like some of these kids here are just kids from scamilton but younger, the beast sounds quite a bit like washington from scamilton

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Someone else pointed out that Gaston and lafou are washington and Hamilton and now I can't unsee it

[@feathertailfanspoofs]

no one bites like Washington

[@YoursleepDemon-gj2rs]

I'm pretty sure the gray stuff was pudding. (I could be wrong tho)

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

There's apparently some great cookies and cream type recipes for it that I kind of want to try.

[@mooniera2810]

I won't lie... If not for the forced Christian themes, I think this would be like a good Beauty and the Beast Junior version of the play (Junior is basically like a kid-more friendly version of a movie turned play)

[@starshooter976]

I’m surprised she didn’t point out that Gaston is played by the kid who played Hamilton in illegal Hamilton

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Actually I'm pretty sure Lafou is the Hamilton actor and Gaston is George Washington. 💀

[@starshooter976]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff omg I totally wrote that wrong but also 😂

[@SuperSireBoyYT]

The Christian stuff is more intrusive than scamilton which is an achievement

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Both feel like they forgot about making it christian until the end and then shoved it all in at once.

[@SuperSireBoyYT]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff yea like characters will be doing normal stuff and then “hey guys……… *J E S U S*

[@kingofallhallowseve]

Alright. Long comment time. Last year I was in my high school’s Beauty and the Beast Jr. They absolutely took the script and sound track and changed it. I doubt they bought the rights though. I can safely say that in this show, it’s so important that the actors playing Belle and Gaston visibly look the same age. This is just wrong on so many levels

[@cricketxing]

I'm surprised they kept the spell as the reason he transformed because you know how they feel about magic 💀

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Ikr, that was a surprise to me too!

[@JarrettBEdwards]

I will say there is a lot of actual God-given talent in that church, that is being squandered. I get the idea they have the acting, singing, production design talent, but they need to convert a a dramatist and a songwriter so they can do something original. And, Lazarus would be a great one.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

For real though, I think I'm onto something with that Lazarus idea. 😂

[@JarrettBEdwards]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff I mean it is the most dramatic miracle. Unless they want to give out free wine to the congregation. ;)

[@abbyk9025]

I've got the same Chip the teacup! Only I turned him into a ~key~cup so I have the same goofy place for my car keys every day. Because ADHD means you gotta hack yourself.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I love it! I need to do something similar because my ADHD makes it so that I lose my keys more than I use them. 😅

[@abbyk9025]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff I so appreciate that you reply to fans, you're extremely relatable and one of my faves. Another of my faves: Brigadoon. I humbly request- no curse if you can't get to it though😁

[@sopranophantomista]

Okay, I watched your Scamilton video last night on a whim and this has just been as entertaining. The world of Christian knock off productions is just wild. I grew up RC and left the church decades ago, so thankfully I never had to deal with awkward Disney musicals. I had to deal with awkward Shakespeare productions instead. 😅 Watching these makes me wonder how my parents ever kept a straight face. Anyways, these have been enlightening and entertaining, and it's been wonderful to hear your vulnerability about your time in the church. Looking forward to going through your videos to see what else catches my eye after this.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Thank you so much for watching! I kind of wish I could have seen some of those Shakespeare performances 😂

[@ccmastergad2892]

How obat the oldest animated version of beauty and the beast from 1952 the scarlet flower and is very intereste version bekust is not of the beauty and the beast book but is efter the russian book vit the sem nam from 1858

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Interesting! I'll check that out. 😊

[@THATGuy5654]

Looking forward to next year's production, "Rent!" (If they've already done that, please don't tell me, for the sake of my own sanity.)

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I'm personally excited for when the time comes that we get the Rocky Horror Picture Show from them...

[@THATGuy5654]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff Dear God.

[@FIRING_BLIND]

OMIGOD WE DECORATED OUR LAPTOPS WITH THE SAME STICKERS

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

YES!!

[@JoeTheGre4t]

Why does this church have such a great budget for these shows, especially the Scamilton set.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I don't want to speculate on their finances but I will say that I personally maintain that any extra money a church has after paying their staff a fair wage should go directly to community benefits.

[@JoeTheGre4t]

@@AveryTalksAboutStuff I wouldn’t be opposed to this church using some of their, clearly large, finances to legally perform shows without altering the material. They clearly have some talented artists there and I’d absolutely watch these shows if they didn’t force me into a sermon during it.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

@@JoeTheGre4t true, I do feel bad because a lot of christians in the arts are shamed for making secular stuff so this was probably the only outlet for a lot of people to get into theatre.

[@ruthweeg8286]

please talk about the Cannon MovieTales Beauty and the Beast from the 80s

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I'll make sure that's on the list!