I Finally Got A J & S Jack! How Does It Compare To My Current Motorcycle Jack?

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[@chipmartin7608]

You forgot the number one reason to buy the J&S over any other: it's made in USA. That alone made me buy one, and I would again even if it was $1000. It's definitely the sturdiest (and heaviest) I've found and that gives me peace of mind. When I eventually have to replace my bottle, I will probably find a pneumatic-assist version so I can just raise and lower it with a finger lever. Also, the reason the J&S takes slightly longer to raise is because of its somewhat higher capacity bottle jack. The same J&S jack will also lift trikes, snowmobiles and four wheelers with just platform attachments. Good video; very impartial. Love your videos! Keep up the good work!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you for watching and hopefully you’re subscribed!👍🏾😊 Thank you very much! Bad news on J&S though. Check out my updated review of this jack and the company.

[@BobsGT235]

I had a J&S jack for about 8 years. It worked well. The bottle started leaking at the adjustment knob. Only required a small seal, but in order to get the seal, had to buy an entire rebuild kit for about $40.00. I see now that J&S Jacks went belly up.

[@ianloyd6384]

Really enjoy these reviews Robert. I really appreciate how thorough you are with the features in your reviews/comparisons. From all the small details to the more “major” features. I personally look for, and AT those types of things myself. Also, appreciate the honesty even those this was supplied by the company. Always good useful information sir! 🙌🏻

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much! It’s my pleasure. 😊

[@jshirkjr]

HI Robert, Love your site and the additional information that you bring to the motorcycle community. I've had my J&S Jack for about 8 years and it has worked flawlessly over that period for time. I have coincidently painted my garage floors, in florida and Charlotte,NC the same as yours and scratched them both by forgetting to completely raise the two screws high enough after lowering the bike, then attempting to move the jack. I know you're concerned with the release of the hydraulic valve but I like that you can release it slowly and safely as fast or as slowly as you like and that's a plus. The bottom line regarding the J&S Jack is that I have never had an incident with it. I love the way I can easily move my bike around my garage and save space. I have used it on a Road King, Ultra limited and Ultra Limited Low and it has been a great purchase. Good Luck to you and I think you made the right choice.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Hey John. Thank you very much! I like the jack too and it’s very beneficial due to the ease of moving the motorcycle around on it and the stability of it. But the release valve to lower it is in an absolutely ridiculous location. Nothing is perfect. 👍🏾

[@markashley210]

I purchased the J&S Jack in 2007 and have been very happy with it. I thought about not purchasing because of the price but decided if I purchased a HD for over $20,000 I could afford the best jack and pay the price. And let me tell you this is the best jack. I live in WI so I was able to drive to the company and talk to the owner. Nice guy and he also included an oil pan adapter with it that works great when changing your oil.

[@bluepearlnewbaby]

Comment from Europe, thanks Robert for your technical instructions. I'm 73 years old and still riding. Last weekend I rode in one day round trip from Stuttgart. Germany to St. Auold France

[@mr.solitude3352]

Incredibly helpful video. Thank you for making and sharing it. Happy trails!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much! It’s my pleasure.

[@DSid-kb7rp]

LT. I've had my J&S jack for 10 years. First to lift my 05 Ultra and now the 2018 Limited. By far the most stable when the bike is lifted. As others stated, I always go under the right side of the bike so it settles on the jiffy stand when lowered. The little knob to release the hydraulic pressure is a recent development as others have stated, mine uses a 12 inch rod to engage the release. The bottle jack is by far the weak point in the J&S jack...... they are at the mercy of their supplier on that one. I've replaced the jack once due to failure. The current jack has been serviced to remove the air from the system. The jack leaks.... No denying it.. But again, the overall design and stability make it a keeper for me. I went to the J&S jack after my 05 fell off the previous jack and missed hitting my wife's car by inches when it fell....😳 Stay Safe and Healthy Sir!!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@BeauGeste49]

Very good video Robert, I really liked the comparison and had never heard of the OTC jack or I would likely have gotten that one to replace my old craftsman motorcycle jack. I had ordered the J&S jack at the end of July so it should be here soon. J&S website does say 4-6 weeks for delivery. I watched a lot of videos and was impressed by it's stability and mobility which is why I went with them.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@FSAUDIOGUY]

Hey Robert...been a while, good to see you man! Glad to see you are well and grooving along! Thank you for doing the comparison video, I've been in the market for one of these jacks. Stay well!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

What’s up? It’s my pleasure. 😊 Thank you. You stay well also.

[@raymondhintz691]

Thank you for the jack compression and your time making this video

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

It’s my pleasure Ray.

[@davidmacomber4044]

Hi Robert. I have the Pit Bull lift and it works very well. I use it on my electra glide and goldwings. Very stable and it lifts up to 25 inches . Love the garage floor.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks Dave. Yes I heard the Pitbull jack was good.

[@kevinanthony2724]

Welcome to the club I only use this jack anymore from my selection of three. Used it today to fill tires and clean rims. Not sure if you bought the oil change pan as I’m still watching the vid. Works awesome.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks Kevin. It’s back ordered, but it’s coming.

[@kevinanthony2724]

@@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle you’ll love it so much easier.

[@scottdavis9318]

Looks like a good quality Jack. I have a HD lift jack something like that only it has a handle that you turn CW to raise the bike and CCW to lower the bike nice and easy , cost was approximately $350 back in 2007 and I use it alot from my 2007 ultra classics and 2012 ultra limited and the 2017 ultra classics . I never tried to lift my 2016 triglide because it's a little heavier. Thanks for another great video. 👍

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much! It’s my pleasure. 😊

[@leondement6117]

I waited 12 weeks for my J&S lift to arrive last month. Delay was due to unavailability of the bottle jack. Funny, where you have a knob to open.close the cylinder, mine has a small lever that makes it cumbersome to lower the lift slowly. Maybe they are sourcing jacks from different suppliers. Otherwise it is a great product. Appreciate your detailed and honest review!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@Phredd8143]

Purchased my J&S in 2008. Super tool, built like a tank. Love it.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you.

[@barrywalkerjr]

I was so impressed by your video that I rolled the dice and ordered one of these in October 2021 after seeing this video. I have yet to have it deliver and they don’t answer the phone.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Wow! That is not only ridiculous and inexcusable, but sadly, it’s not the first time I’ve heard this.

[@michaelotoole8326]

Robert, I’ve had my J&S Jack for 2.5 years with no issues. I’ve used it lifting my Ultra and never had any concerns. It seems that J&S has changed the “release” mechanism since I bought mine. My jack has a metal rod with a handle attached to the release valve which allowed me to stand while releasing pressure. I agree with you that having the releases so low is a design issue to be addressed. I still would buy the J&S over all the cheaper jacks….in this case you really do get what you pay for!! Mike

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks Mike! I agree with you. 👍🏾

[@23Elit3]

I always lift mine from the right hand side. I leave the side stand down and just crack the valve and let it go down on its own all the way to the side stand.

[@kevinanthony2724]

Do The same thing! Great minds

[@DSid-kb7rp]

👍

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks. Even when I’m on the right side, I always catch her and lay her down gently.

[@R3215T3R]

Hey Robert, I’ve had my J&S Jack for 8 years. It’s been used for NUMEROUS washes and maintenance jobs. Great Jack and you’ll be pleased with years of service. Had a bottle failure (basically it just started leaking. Not a catastrophic failure) around year 5 or 6 but I found a replacement for it cheaper than J&S charges. And it was during Covid, so they were shut down by state law.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Hey Jay. Thanks for this information. Funny you should mention this because my bottle started leaking and I guess it’s empty because now the jack doesn’t work. Tell me what to do please. 😆

[@bikertom98]

Ditto on the leaking bottle jack for me too. And J&S is out of stock on most of their products, with a 12-14 week delivery time noted at the top of their home page. Are they still in business?

[@Jim_Berry]

I’ll be getting a J&S jack for sure!! I also have the OTC and the safety stops make me super nervous.

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[@Tom-jw1pe]

Man I love my harbour freight jack….. it goes down very very slow when you turn very lightly…. It helped me keeping it loaded 🔥😂🔥with hand control…. Nice vid bud….

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks Tom!

[@jamesfeaster7271]

I've had a J&S jack for two years and find it very user friendly. I also purchased the dolly arrangement for the jack and leave my street glide up on it all winter. The bike is very easy to move around the shop the when i need to make room. Its a long winter here in Alaska.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks James! How many months out of the year do you get to ride?

[@jamesfeaster7271]

@@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle We probably have 2 or 3 weeks left this year and by late April riding season will start again.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

@@jamesfeaster7271 wow!

[@SportyRider]

The lowering knob is new, but I find if you turn it just enough to start the lowering process you can then stand and guide the bike down as you please. The pump is made to lower the bike slow no matter what. I love my J&S jack. I found a used one and will be holding on to it

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks Chris!

[@edsmith7607]

haha rob, i like the part of the video where you were concered about being hit by the motorcycle, and then you corrected yourself "the motocycles going to being facing this way, I had to laugh about with you on that :). Keep safe, ride safe, STAY SAFE! Rember PRELOAD! KEEP IT LOADED!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

[@lennyevans4724]

great video Robert, and I appreciate you comparing products. I am of the different opinions from the others here and that I am too cheap to purchase the J n S jack at $650 for the small benefits you get out of it vs the other jack.. do I love my bike, of course, but it's more the price principal and I feel $650 is just too excessive.... If I feel my S glide is unstable at the top setting, I wrap a strap over it and tighten to the jack, which is more of a piece of mind. I too, come in from the right side of the bike. Thx for allowing my comment. …. And .. I put both my wife’s’ and my bikes on the OTC jacks all winter long… and it’s a dam long winter in Ontario

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Hey Lenny. I totally get it brother!

[@danaevans3524]

Very nice intro. Enjoy the channel. I own the OTC jack, I like it. Works well with my H-D>

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@steveningmire5471]

Robert I've had my J & S jack for my HD Ultra and Street Glide 8 years. The reason the jack rolls so easy is that the wheels are made out of the same material that Bowling Balls are made of . They are a great jack.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks.

[@lanegustafson929]

I've owned my J&S Jack for 12 years and like it. I've never owned another brand so I can't compare but the J&S has served me well. I use it from the right side of the bike, so the kick stand isn't in the way. Also I crack the bleed screw slightly so that the bike comes down all the way to the kickstand slowly without any issues and no hands needed.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

I agree it’s a good jack. But clearly it has its downfalls.

[@trekOCLVone]

I just bought a Sears Craftsman motorcycle jack that was several years old as there are no new Craftsman jacks in any inventory anymore. I chose the old Craftsman (weighs 90 lbs) because many of the current models are cheezed down on quality. The Craftsman cost me $100 and has long T handle for moving the bike and both peddles (up and down) so no bending down to the floor to release. The new ones have much less metal and the designs have shrunk down the heavy gage main frame with less bracing and no metal around the front wheels. The Craftsman jack is a beast and weighs probably 10 pounds more then the Harbor Freight and all the other knock offs. So this gave me the opportunity to buy the best at less costs and clean it up and refurbish it which I've done. I first sanded all the rust off the frame with small wire wheels and flap wheels on my drill. Then use Rust-Oleum (Rusty Metal Primer) on the whole frame followed by the Rust-Oleum Semi-Gloss Black brush on top coat. The red parts I bought a spray can of "Cherry Red" Rust-Oleum metal paint and sanded down all the rust and sprayed that on. Next a lot of the hardware was working but looked bad - especially the Acorn Nuts used on all the pivot points. I bought new stainless Acorn Nuts and some lock and flat washers and got rid of all the rusty bits. On the platform top where the motorcycle sits I replaced the rusty Acorn nuts with some stainless steel lifting triangle shaped eyelet nuts. The Craftsman has all M12 heavy duty fasteners. These triangle (eyelets) can be attached to the bike at first contact and the bike will not go anywhere during the lifting process unlike the loops down on the base cannot be used until the bike is fully up in the air. (good luck with that). I've posted the final assembly build and modified skid plate on a Kawasaki Versys X300 to allow it to be lifted up in the air. The video is on my channel - LINK: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kICpmXtor76Er68&ab_channel=trekOCLVone

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Wow that’s pretty impressive!

[@LynxStarAuto]

As a person who does this for a living daily, I will tell you the OTC Jack you have is very competent and does a good job. It is basically a rebranded Big Red Jack. In the lifting world, there are not many companies out there in the business. Majority of products are just rebranded, reboxed under contract. For the price of the J&S, you can get a Pro-Lift HD. It is a combo hydraulic/pneumatic, 1250 lbs capacity, adjustable leg rails, and the release knob is on the top. You barely even have to bend over to lower it. Finally, I would say if all you want is ease of movement, or stability, get a dolly. Much cheaper, and does the job better!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks Gabe!

[@dejonsmall9886]

Robert, this is the second time watching this vid. The first time I didn't finish it. My Craftsman jack of over 13 years has bitten the dust. The handle is pulling away from it's brace. I'v always liked the J&S so I'm going for it. A couple of the things the things you didn't like were sort of pety (JMO). I would never lift my FLHTK from the kickstand side. I you haven't watched J&S video you can see that when lowering the bike, crack the release and watch the bike lower itself down and settle on the kickstand. I want a table, but space in my garage is limited. I did notice the bike wiggle on the OTC, same on my Craftsman. Placing my order today...

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Good luck. Let me know when you get it. Not the best customer service over there.

[@RideAmerica]

I have had a J&S Jack for 8+ years. I don't get a ton of use out of it, maybe half a dozen times a year. It's pretty solid. I thought it was expensive 8 years ago but wow, they are crazy expensive now. I think cost wise, I'd shop around and something at least close to as good prior to spending almost 700 bucks on a lift. At the same time, i would not use a HF 99 dollar jack on a 30K bike.

[@abeastrules]

Hi Robert. Just yesterday I did a slow moving U-turn on this road where you have to do it to turn onto the other road. My friend was in front of me and I could tell he needs more practice. My turn was perfect, feet up and head turned. Only problem my friend messed up three quarter way into the turn causing my to have to stop. But I was in control the whole time. You was definitely on my head as it was all happening. Thanks for sharing and beating this into my head. At time when I’m about to mess up I say myself, what would Robert do?

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Hi. That’s great! Keep it up and feel free to help out your friend. It’s my pleasure.

[@abeastrules]

@@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle Trust me I reminded him I already sent your videos to him.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

@@abeastrules

[@holisecleveland2859]

Robert Simmons, in my 75 years of life I have had to figure ways to modify many of the products that i have used and bought. If I may suggest finding a 4 to 5 foot long piece of light aluminum pipe and cut a notch just wide enough to fit over the piece to lower the jack. That way you will be standing when lowering the jack and feel comfortable doing so. Respectfully, Holise Cleveland (pronounced Hol,lis)

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@roadglide1652]

I use a pitbull Jack and the knob to release is also a turn style but it about 12” straight up from the Jack itself and seems as stable as the J & S from your video. I actually have never used a J &S. I also tried the harbor freight before and didn’t like it either, it went back also. Great videos sir.

[@23Elit3]

Pitbull is also a very nice jack the issues I've ever seen with them is due to the length it can get hung up if the surface isn't level but it's very stable like the j&s

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@rw1531]

I also have a J&S Jack (8 yrs old) and I'm very happy with it. However, I NEVER slide the jack in from the Jiffy Stand side. I always slide it in from the other side, so when I lower my motorcycle to the ground, it leans over towards the Jiffy Stand side and not towards me. In doing it that way it's much easier to reach and turn the lowering knob because the cycle doesn't "come at you" (lol) so to speak. I recommend sliding the jack in from the non-jiffy stand side ONLY.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks. I now do that. 👍🏾

[@streetgliderichie9724]

Hey Robert! I was on the 9/11 NYC Ride For Richie yesterday in NYC. The NYPD did a great job with blocking traffic and the Punishers put together a great ride. Thanks for the video.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

That’s awesome! It’s my pleasure.

[@mauriceordonez4566]

I'm in NYC also . We also did midnight run Friday eve. And JP from pushers was there to help w. Escort s and stuff. I count make the ride on Sunday, but most of the nyc hog chapter went.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

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[@billherzog2029]

Wow! I would take the OTC jack in a heart beat. Saw nothing worth about $400 more! Thanks for great video!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

It’s my pleasure.

[@chile2610]

Hi Robert, Thank you! I am more focused on the ability to raise and lower the jack. I would be afraid that if something gave out while my hands were down there, like the bottle jack failing, and that bike comes down hard, you're under your bike with all that weight. As far as moving it around? I would look at replacing the wheels on the OTC for ball bearing rubber wheels. I am pretty sure there's something out there for that. I just can't see spending $400 more for a jack that is just a little bit more stable. I don't plan on sitting on it while it's on the jack, so.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

It’s my pleasure. 😊 I agree with you.

[@BiggBaddVVolf]

Thank you for your service!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

It’s my pleasure. 😊

[@sandtrap9]

Great product review! Thanks for sharing 👍👍

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much! It’s my pleasure.

[@johnhines9370]

I’ve had my J&S Jack for just under a year. Had a failure in the lift but left a message at J&S and the owner called me and walked me through bleeding the bottle jack. Two things I noticed on your video. I did not see the rubber boots that go on the wheel stops (brakes). That will keep you from scaring up the floor. The other this is lowering the bike. I crack release screw just a little and then stand up to hold the handle bar lowering the bike all the way down until it rest on the kickstand. I don’t understand why you have to stop it once the wheels touch the floor and then continue to lower it. I love this jack and keep my bike on it when not riding. With the bike raised in the highest position, my bike stores better in my garage versus leaning on the kickstand.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@wingandhog]

I was told mine should ship in another two weeks. Cant wait

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[@tomellis7949]

The 2 jack comparison was great, thanks. Just subd too.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much! Thank you for watching and subscribing!👍🏾😁

[@roadglide1142]

I bought my J&S Jack in 2010 when I purchased my 1st Harley . It’s paid for itself many times over as far a money 💴 I saved performing my own maintenance 👨‍🔧. The J&S Jack is made in America 🇺🇸 out of Heavy Steel. It’s built extremely well! Customer service is second to none! Only thing that went wrong was a new bottle Jack . Contacted them & they sent me out two replacement Free! The safety on the J&S is a much for reliable system because there are two of them! I’m sure mine will last the rest of my life . I purchased mine back in 2010 for $399.00 I guess prices went up since then . Lol 😂

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks! I agree.

[@testflight06]

Robert thanks for the unbiased review. Reading through different forums, it's rare to find someone who shelled out the $$ for a J&S (to include $$ shipping) to admit they have issues with it. I appreciate you pointing out where you would give the nod to the OTC. Question, have you ever lifted your CVO Ultra with the OTC? I have an Ultra and am in the market for a jack but, don't have the $$ budget for a J&S. Thanks for the great vids.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much! Yes I’ve lifted all of my bikes with the OTC. 👍🏾

[@jarrodjordan5468]

@@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle Hello again Mr. Simmons. In the next couple days I am gonna purchase a jack. I have the option to buy an 8 yr old J&S for 250. It's in decent condition nothing wrong. Coming with an Xtra bottle. Or after seeing the OTC on ya review they are available for 254ish now. Which would u suggest. I won't be moving the bike much while it's jacked up. If the price wasn't so low for the J&S I wouldn't even be deliberating at all!! Thanks for ya valued opinion once again.

[@michaelfrascati7610]

With both jacks you have the option of strapping the bike down. Definitely recommended on the OTC (looks the same as Harbor Freight jack) and then move or clean with greater security even at top position. Harbor Freight jack great value for the money. J&S much more stable but 3x’s+ the price! 🤷🏻‍♂️ BTW I’m using HF works for me so far. GoldwingMikeNY. 👍✌️😎🇺🇸

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks Mike.

[@Ken-wu6hr]

I’m looking at the Let it roll stand & Jack. Mainly for turning my Bike around in my Garage & Washing it. My driveway is a steep hill Down to the street

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[@johnlove9263]

I just purchased a jack from Amazon this week and it’s pretty much identical to your jack you’ve had for 2 years,all controls are in the same place..It’s made by TOGARHOW and was $278…It also let’s my Road King down steadily and slowly,as yours does..I need to give my garage floor a good vacuum and i’ll see tomorrow how hard-easy it is to move my bike around..I was already thinking today if it’s difficult to move the bike around i’d rather look for a better set of rear wheels,,possibly 1/2” higher with a better and tighter wheel bearing then go to another jack…Your older machine like my new one has better and safer options,,i don’t want to have to be bent over and under my bike to let it down..I’ll know more tomorrow when i lift my Road King a few inches off the ground and try moving it around but i’m very happy with the quality ,sturdiness and safety…

[@backnine]

Hi Robert You probably have soft wheels on the OTC. Change the wheels with soli wheels. It will roll with 2 fingers. Also the reason the release the harbor freight jack is hard to release slowly is they use a course thread on the release shaft. Better jacks use a fine thread.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks Harold. 👍🏾Thank you for watching and hopefully you’re subscribed!👍🏾😊

[@ashleyroffe]

As someone who enjoys a little engineering, I would say do a little cutting and welding and fit your old bottle and pedals to the J & S jack. Either that, or replace the wheels on the old jack, shim out the pivot points and, if necessary weld in a couple of braces to remove the flexing - you clearly like the old jack, so why not resolve its issues instead of trying to replace it?

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks Ashley but it’s been replaced. I know me, I would never do any of that. I got a little tired just thinking about it.

[@rooseveltzinnerman6372]

Hey Rob, other than the lowering disadvantage, the J&S jack, in my opinion is much better, the height, stability & mobility of the J&S is superior 🙂

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Hi Uncle Jr. I agree!

[@fourftr]

Robert I read most of comments and no-one mentioned this. On lowering you have better feel with your hands than your feet. so you have less chance of letting it down too quickly.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks but the jack with the foot pedal only has one speed so you can press it all the way down with no worry. That’s why I like that feature so much.

[@karjar358]

Had a J&S for 10 years. Now with my Indian Cheiftain I ordered the Indian lift rails that sit on top of the jack rails specifically for Indian to protect the bottom lines etc. Some people use wood, pucks etc. But I like the J&S rails for Indian

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@cwheremonster8870]

Something to think about on the “speed of lift” on the OTC vs. J&S: The J&S lifts in smaller increments. Which is more refined mechanically. Which is to say, I can lift to specific heights that are much more precise. It also means less bouncing/movement while bike is is being lifted. I also like the ability to lower the bike with more precision. Often, if I’m working on a motor, a fraction of an inch higher or lower makes a ton of difference. I also transitioned to the same J&S lift. The biggest “plus” for me… I no longer have a heavy bike that shaking and bouncing when I’m doing mechanical maintenance.. or even polishing. Did I worry I’m the past? No exactly. But the J&S gives me so much piece of mind. By the way, having 2 safety bars is a built in redundancy. That way, if you have a catastrophic failure, they’re not both gone. Thanks again for sharing . I’m now a new sub.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you for sharing that. Thank you for watching and subscribing!👍🏾😁

[@charlie12590]

Have my J&S for 7 years They sell a handle to help you move the jack around. Personally I think they should include it in the already high price but I got it none the less. I retired from NYC Corrections 17 years ago. I see you retired in perfect timing. 👍

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you. Also, thank you for your service! I have that handle coming. It was back ordered.

[@IRONTOSS]

Thanks! for this review, I am like you im all about safety first and having to kneel down near a 800lb motorcycle to lower it is a big concern and a deal breaker for me. I think i may go with the OTC jack as I dont have a need to move the bike while its lifted and dont have to pump the jack so much to get it raised.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

It’s my pleasure. 😊

[@kiplandingham322]

Seems like the big win for the J&S jack over the OTC is the ease with which it rolls. But it is so much more expensive. I can't help but wonder if it would be possible to get the OTC jack, then upgrade the wheels to something closer to what the J&S jack uses. Thoughts?

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

It’s actually the wheels and the stability. The stability is a huge win.

[@jrpowell197]

I Agree the J&S Jack is the best I ever had, I have used it for 6 years so far still going strong..

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you.

[@apjacks1]

Appears J&S revised their lift's release system using the short knob on the aft of the jack. The previous models had a long 12" rod with knob on the opposite side for pressure release without bending over very far.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

I wonder why they changed it.

[@michaelotoole8326]

@@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle I think because they were having issues with the knob getting caught and then breaking…..happened on mine.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

@@michaelotoole8326 wow! Thanks!

[@sabraitis]

J&S Jacks are second to none. had mine for 4 years and counting.

[@bubblehead7680]

I have the J&S jack and while the knob bothers me a bit, I find that just cracking it open the bike goes down slowly and therefore there is no need to hold the knob and the bike at the same time. Just crack the knob, then when the bike gets about where you would want to grab it, then just grab it. Don't worry about bending down to hold the knob.

[@davidryall1082]

Exactly what I was thinking!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

10-4. I guess I need to “Trust and Believe” right.. 😆

[@Road_Rash]

I like my Harbor Freight jack...when you lower the bike, you have to just barely crack the valve so that it slowly leaks down, then you're bike won't come crashing down like that...my only complaint about it is that you lock it into position with a metal rod which requires the jack to be fully lifted before you can secure the jack, so if you don't want the bike all the way up, it could still come down on you, though it never has, but I don't even like that it's a possibility...other than that, it's a great jack for the money... that being said, if I was in the market for a new one, I think I'd get the OTC over the J&S, just going by this demonstration...in fact, from what I'm seeing here, looks like the Harbor Freight jack has the better release valve than the J&S...it does move easily, but there's just too many design flaws, the worst one being that badly positioned release valve...I'm actually liking the OTC jack better...I never move my bike once it's on the jack anyways...I always put the bike in the position I want it in & then jack it up, so I'm in a good position to get all the way around the bike with plenty of room so I don't have to move it...

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

I agree with you.

[@jeffbowen4600]

How have you made it this long without one??? I use mine a lot; super handy! I've had my J & S Jack for ten years with zero issues. I was shocked when you stated the price of one now, though. I believe I paid $330.00 directly from the manufacturer in WI. A buddy of mine and I bought ours together, so they threw in oil drain pans, and I was given a military veteran discount. There may have been some improvements made on the design and/or construction since I bought mine, but that's a huge price increase. I watched a live demo at the Tomahawk, WI Fall Ride in 2011, and I had to have one. If you haven't seen the videos of what they do on bikes while raised on the jack, check them out, it's a trip! J & S is an amazingly stable jack.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Hey Jeff. Yeah it’s really stable! Very impressive!

[@HarrisArt]

Ive had one going on 5 years. BEST money I have spent on something like this hands down. My only complaint is they need to find a better solution for the glued on rubber pads.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you.

[@larryjr3611]

If u look at old comments I was one of those dudes saying get the j&s. Now I need some game. That nice ass roll chair I want one lol.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks for that Larry. Here you go… www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M2QMHK6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@DownTheRoad66]

Great review! I’ve owned the J&S jack for 4 years and would recommend it for sure. My only issue is the bottle jack they use, it will leak from the pump stem. Ive gotten the same bottle then drilled it for mounting. It also leaks and the only way it won’t is to immediately put it on the stops and relieve the pressure. There are times (changing tires) where it must be raised and lowered several times before using the safety stops. I have learned to keep an eye on this and never store it without a shop towel under the bottle. This is a great jack and I’ve done a lot of work on my bike as well as my brothers Wide Glide. Also, it is one of the only jacks wide enough to safely use on Dynas as it doesn’t require any special adapter for the Dyna frame.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@rwr313]

I have one of these jacks too, and I agree about the inferior quality of the Chinese bottle jack they use. I feel like J&S is misleading with their advertising by promoting it as made in USA when the bottle jack is not. I would never consider buying J&S again.

[@michaelwynn6969]

Bought my J and S Jack four months ago.Best Jack that I ever owned.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you.

[@go5582]

Hi handsome. Great video, quick point, I really like to magnetic bar, to clear your wheels from sharp objects. Great job

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks

[@duanewilliams4953]

I have a J&S Jack and recommended it to you a while ago. I have had mine for 6 years and love it. Great purchase and you will love yours. Stay safe my brother and keep being the best version of Robert Simmons. 👍

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@jgdroptop1]

Thank You for your service Robert. NYPD 🇺🇸

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

You’re welcome.

[@johnhines9370]

I’d also like to see you do a video on your floor. I painted my own using a garage kit by Sherwin Williams but I have tire spots. Noticed you do not have any.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

There’s already a video on my floor. Thank you for watching and hopefully you’re subscribed!👍🏾😊

[@Humbled_Veteran]

FYI, I have been trying to make contact with J&S Jack for weeks to ask some questions before I purchase. No return phone calls or email responses….I will have to pass and go with Iron Horse Lift, also made in America located in Iowa. Thanks for the ear.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

I don’t know what the hell is going on with that company. I did a follow up review of this jack and mentioned how bad the customer service is. It’s a video where I compare this jack with two other lifts.

[@darkman8022]

Rob pittsburgh has 2 jacks the other one (steel) works like your OTC while lowering the bike I havent had any issues with mine but when it is time to move the J&S seem to be the best

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks brother! Yes I know they have two. 👍🏾

[@toddboynes4027]

Hello Robert question for you about about the J&S Jack. Can you change all 3 oils Without any obstruction/reaching to the 3 Screws?

[@fxrmike5145]

I've had a harbor freight jack for about 10 years. Super sketchy about putting my bike on it, but it works great for dropping transmissions 🙄

[@markdahl9453]

I live in Wisconsin yeah these are some bad ass jacks !!!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks!

[@talegunner40]

I Have a J&S Jack & love the piece of mind because of it's strength & stability. That being said it's sad what J&S jacks has become...... MIA ..... So lifetime warranty is non existent . Don't know if the people that ordered during their shut down ever recovered their money ?

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you for watching and hopefully you’re subscribed to my KZbin channel!👍🏾😊 kzbin.info People that I know have not recovered their money.

[@skbenwa]

Robert. Thanks for the review. You mention a bit of oil you wiped off bottle jack along with noise at stop from BJ. Have you had success contacting J&S and learning anything. The BJ is warranty for 2 years

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Nothing else has leaked since. I’m keeping an eye on it. So far, so good.

[@streetgliderichie9724]

Went to their website. Wow! Those are expensive. Out of my price range. Thanks for the video though!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

It’s my pleasure. 😊

[@georgethomas1017]

I have a Harbor Freight jack thar looks a lot like the OTC, the top cross bar that the handle is welded to is thin and weak. My handle broke off today, the weld didn't break. A chunk of metal broke off the cross bar. Actually, it's the handle mounting tube, not the handle.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

The same thing happened to mine a long time ago.

[@bert6499]

I haven't seen the bottom of the bolts that immobilize the jack and lift the wheels off the floor, but if they don't have any rubber padding, then be careful with your floor, as they will damage it...

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks Bert! Yeah I won’t be using them unless I put something under them.

[@puddinspapa8179]

Wondering if the bottle jacks could be changed between the two lifts? Maybe buy the J&S then buy a "replacement" bottle jack from OTC.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Interesting

[@larryjr3611]

That jack with his red chair will have u sitting in the garage to damn much lolol. I just need the chair now lololololol

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Here you go. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M2QMHK6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@maikell58]

This is a minor observation, I was noticing that your hat had a word above the bill Should it be Preloaded or Preload? Love your videos,I have a 2018 triumph rocket 3 roadster and am definitely learning more from your experience, thank you

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you for watching and hopefully you’re subscribed to my KZbin channel!👍🏾😊 kzbin.info I’m happy that my channel has been helpful to you! That makes all the time and effort that I put into this so worthwhile! It’s Preload.

[@bobclapper2672]

Thanks Man , you convinced me to buy the OTC , Maybe not the best , but at half the price ?

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

It’s my pleasure. 😊 Absolutely. Still using mine to this day.

[@josephmirigliano8728]

Awesome video 👍🏻

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@mikespillane1838]

Nice review,you pumped the old jack @ 33 pumps,the j&s was more than that by maybe 10 ?….couldn’t count on the speed up video…..not sure I like the lowering knob. I have a craftsman one that I will look at ….been a while since I used it…..

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@John-xy4eo]

Good info

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks!

[@serdvd6]

I have had a J&S Jack for a litter over 3 years and while the jack itself is sturdy and well built, I use it 2-3 times a month to clean wheels etc. The bottle jack is terrible, the first one started leaking around the valve, I called J&S and they sent out a new one, now just last week, I had my bike on it to remove the wheels to have new tires mounted, I reinstalled the wheels and it would not jack up to take it off the locks, I had to take a floor jack to jack it up to release the locks, so now I need a second new bottle jack, I will probably look elsewhere for a new bottle jack.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Wow! Thanks for sharing.

[@randallwong7660]

I just bought a J&S and scrapped (gave it to my buddy) my previous moto lift. By far the best ever lift I've ever used. Using my hand and bending down to lower the bike versus a foot pedal is nothing compared to the overall quality of the list. Remember that it's American made!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Absolutely! Thanks.

[@MissJenni_ISO]

Fantastic video comparison. Curiosity question...would you store one of your motorcycles on either of those jacks on the 1st safety, just to have the bike upright for more room, as opposed to leaned on the kickstand and the wheel turned? My Electra Glide Standard has a center stand and I get more room around the bike of it being on the stand as opposed to the kickstand. We are looking to store our 3 bikes and my Acadia all in one carport and still be able to get in and out of the car.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks Jenni. No I wouldn’t because I really don’t need the extra room. Also, with the room the jack occupies, it’s not really saving much space.

[@xavpil2]

Miss jenni I have the same question/concern with limited space in my garage. Looking for solutions to keep the upright. I too was hoping I could lift the bike and toll it where I need her to be. Let me know if you found a solution

[@darrenlewis7001]

I hope you come up to the NY NJ area one day.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Me too Darren.

[@dejay735]

Hello Robert, my name is De Jackson and my brother is Cory Jackson we are from St.louis Mo. and will be traveling to Pooler GA. to join your practice session's. We are excited to join you and the other motorcycle enthusiasts to be the boss of our bikes. If possible please refer a 4 or 5 star hotel closest to the practice area. Thanks and I greatly appreciate you taking your time out to Pay It Forward & Keep it preloaded. Thanks again subscriber De Jay. Tried to email but it said Address not found.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Hey Jay. Thank you for watching and subscribing!👍🏾😁 I get several emails everyday so you entered the wrong email address. Try it again. 👍🏾

[@funhumanusa]

OTC jack 41 foot pumps until you stopped. J&S 40 pumps as you questioned your count. 70 total foot pumps to finish, then you wanted to see something and added 3 more foot pumps. I like my Pittsburgh jack $109. an OTC knock off. Down nice and slowly. You tried the Pittsburgh $189. jack. That is the one that dropped fast, awful. Trust and believe!

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

You’re just awesome!! Thanks for counting that for me!!

[@jelectro50]

I have had a J & S Jack on order for 24 weeks and I have called and left messages and no call backs. I have emailed several times with my order number and still no reply. They are not good with there customers. I am about to cancel, but do not know if it will be canceled. If I buy a different jack, I don't want the J & S jack to come and have to pay for it because the order didn't get canceled. They said a max. 14- 16 weeks for delivery.

[@skidvnv]

Robert isaw your video on lifting your bike with the push pull walking it up, but I forgot which was push pull?

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Watch it again brother. It’s my pleasure. 😊

[@memphisglide3061]

Robert harbor freight has another jack for $99 that is as good as your OTC or JNS jack. It looks like the OTC jack. Check that one out.

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thank you very much!

[@bobwelch5056]

Nice jack

[@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle]

Thanks.