I Fixed Neo-Spacians 👽 - Yu-Gi-Oh!

[@elinator8889]

konami needs explanation why gx and 5ds anime cards to irl game transitioned so badly as some of neos cards got nerfed so badly😭😭😭

[@burblebineabbletv]

We need answers, @Konami

[@Zetact_]

Anime duels largely get written with giving characters 100% consistency and in terms of actual game design Konami themselves didn't really get a full grasp on how to make good archetypes until around Zexal. Yes, they existed in GX and 5Ds but for every Lightsworn there was a Genex.

[@elinator8889]

@@Zetact_ i get ya but i feel konami also favors to sell the real life card game more than the show which is just advertising and always has been even if you wish dark magician and blue eyes would ever be tier 1 consistent threats (since dark side of dimensions it sure feels like they’re trying to lole) dark armed dragon, gladiator beasts and light sworn at the time could’ve easily beaten anime cards like anime neos wiseman, anime tg boss monsters that got nerfed and hell even the gy contact fusion of anime divine neos by the time they all got printed would’ve been bad lmao

[@gravethestampede3454]

Konami has done a real good job of making dysfunctional GX decks actually playable as of late. Crystal Beasts. Volcanics and Yubel are real decks now and Clear World will probably shape up quite nicely.

[@anderss.viking3084]

Just retrain them as new versions. Neo Spacian HERO

[@kuyaboben5300]

HERO Spacian? 🤔

[@datosaur]

Neo HERO

[@MrVariant]

Neo space connector helps let alone you can link summon away these days. Grand mole was cool and dark neos could negate itself to stay on the field. It Is a pain neos fusion restricts so much (no special summons after and only 2 monster fusions) but at least it does rainbow neos as rainbow dragon is tougher (glad crystal beast rainbow dragon is better) and brave neos is a level 4 effect monster.

[@Zetact_]

I think getting rid of situational gimmick lines isn't really realistic mainly just because as an anime MC archetype they need flashy new cards to use in every duel. Rather I'd say meet in the middle and do things like consolidate all the Chrysalis Monsters into one monster, something like "Neo Space Chrysalis" with an effect that lets it tribute itself to Special Summon any Neo Spacian from hand, deck or GY. For the spells they can still exist, just that not needing to act as training wheels they can be made better by default. Neos being easier to get on board would probably instantly make Wrath of Neos decent for the time, for instance, but some others would admittedly need more reworking since fixing Neos at the base level would make a lot of the support cards redundant. The concept of the "Return to Extra Deck" isn't impossible for the fusions, it's just very poorly thought-out and doesn't match the "transforming hero" concept of Neos. Instead of dropping it, I would instead add an additional effect: "If this card is removed from the field: You can Special Summon 1 'Elemental HERO Neos' from your deck" and if you want to go above and beyond maybe even refund a Neo-Spacian to your hand. Also for the most part having effects that are kinda similar to what they already have would be fine for GX era, though most of the Neos fusions being just beatsticks is kinda boring, I think making them have the same effects or at least similar ones with some small tweaks to potentially fix them and maybe one specific type of protection would be enough. Omni-negates, floodgates and non-targeting spot removal would be believable on modern retrains but would be way too ridiculous for being printed in the mid 2000s. Remember that the first omni-negate that saw practical use was Quasar (I wouldn't really count LADD as an omni-negate because it's a mandatory activation and seals off its own player, it's more like a floodgate) and it needed to have an entire deck built around getting it out as a win-con, it isn't something that should be achieved with a single Spell activation. I'd say compare the ideas to Gyzarus, and consider that its "pop 2" was pretty overpowered at the time.

[@samuelcastillo5246]

Hear me out *"Neo Spacian CIRCULAR"* 🗿 (obviously just a meme name) "Level 4, Light Warrior, this is also always treated as an "Elemental Hero" monster. Reveal a fusion monster that requires elemental hero Neos as one of its materials but can't be summoned with polymerization: send one level 3 or lower "Neo Spacian" monster from your hand or deck to the graveyard, and special summon this card, then this card is treated as the sent monster until the end of this turn, and if you do, special summon Elemental Hero Neos from your hand, deck OR graveyard. (You can only use this effect of "..." once per turn) While this card is in the graveyard, fusion monsters that list "Elemental Hero Neos" as one of the fusion materials can't be returned to the extra deck or banished"

[@M3rtyville]

Prisma with a special summoning condition pretty much. I like.

[@burblebineabbletv]

Love it! Would've been a great addition to the original Neo-Spacian lineup 🤙

[@thomasbitmail7937]

Looks nice, but thb I feel like the contact fusion should still stay. It shaped Gladiator Beast and Ritual Beast as an archetype. Also, Judai got them to not entirely rely on Poly as a card. I think having maybe both as a req. on the cards could work just as fine. Also I am not a fan of changing the Types of the Neo-Spacians. That't kinda loosing too much of their originality. Filed Spell sounds like a card designed by todays Konami tho, even if you are talking about GX support/release only. But overall, I would say great changes. Now make a card thats a Poplar for them to boost into meta hahahaha

[@maskpenn9443]

It hurts to hear that a sub archetype you like is so bad, but I do want them to be better. If I could add something to help it... Maybe a Neos fusion that that could use any two neo spaceiens instead of specific pair? Idk, I didn't want to repeat something you said.

[@burblebineabbletv]

Like the idea! I think Nex monsters could've been a lot better if they used something like that

[@BlackwingVayu77]

This is really good! I currently exclusively play neos spacians and i love the new support it has and ive managed to get a few tops with it! cosmo neos, fav contact, and engage neo space are soooooo good but its definitely still missing the things you mentioned. hopefully future support will have more meta viable extenders

[@burblebineabbletv]

I'd love to see it! Neo-Spacians have always been an interesting archetype to me. Their visual design is really appealing, and I do like the idea of a wide range of effects within a single archetype, but they lacked support that helps to tie everything in and allows that range of effects to work together.

[@angeldoesanimation2287]

Buster Blader fans get the short end of the stick with the prologue not being able go protect the buster blader fusion

[@MrVariant]

The buster blader retrain can't even be used with fusion deployment lol. I'm just glad there's buster dragon to force dragons let alone odd-eyes, red-eyes and blue-eyes to buff him. Shame dragoon is such a pain though it does put red-eyes in grave. I forget if the power boost activating can be negated by a quick effect.

[@ismaelisaiasramirez]

Man, thinking of how to make cards popular in a very competitive space seems impossible.

[@peruperu7459]

I think neo spacians are very strong already. It has to do with the pilot. I play master duel, and have been consistently reaching the highest rank (Master 1) with neo spacians. Neos have some unique effects that can counter a lot of meta, for example, do u know dark neos can single-handedly burn 4 appollusa negates. U can cheese out it out with instant contact, by having neos in gy. Grand neos is soft once per turn. Can use it to loop gameciel 4 times in 1 turn. One of my new combo, sp little knight with Cosmo neos summoned with favorite contact on opponents turn, it banishes Cosmo neos and replace it on the board during endphase to board wipe since it was moved somewhere else and forgets it was summoned with favorite contact.

[@burblebineabbletv]

Yeah, the new Neo-Spacian support is great for the deck, that's why I focused on the original lineup

[@idkwut2callmyself561]

Cyber Girls/Angels or Roids for the next video

[@williampinkley1842]

I would have honestly been tempted to do the opposite of making the Neos spacians all warriors and have instead be something like 1 "Elemental HERO Neos" monster + Specified type here but let them contact if you use a Neos-Spacian of that type, that why the fusions have potential as super poly target depending on the meta

[@M3rtyville]

I made a video on Neos recently which is a bad powerpoint presentation. I don't like more heroes, but I feel these Archetypes need to be completed. Yes, I want even NEX upgrades to be completed. But besides that I want Konami to give me my Meteor Dragon, Spark, Mirage Knight and Metalmorph archetype. (´w ` ) I wonder if Konami can make the baby versions its own independant archetype that can work without the upgrades. What is the lore reasons to justify that? New boss monsters with the same name but represent if the Neos-Specians evolved differently in an alternative timeline because of the light of destruction. What archetypes would I want to get fixed? non-Wind Roids. But I have the hopeful feeling Konami will make a character structure deck for Syrus which is giving us retrains and upgrades to his deck turning it into Cyberdark Roids and with the cover card: Cyberdark Roid Dragon.

[@burblebineabbletv]

I'll have to check out your vid! And sign me up for the Metalmorph archetype, as long as we get Heavy Metal King that's competitively viable 🤘

[@M3rtyville]

@@burblebineabbletv I made a Metalmorph video too and I ended up creating 2 loops which I noticed while recording. But I was lazy so I left it in. Yes, I made some custom cards on how I would envision it would work. It is kinda fun using card maker from ygopro. Maybe the next card that needs an archetype I will make a 'Structure Deck'. Maybe Exodia Necross because I already made an Exodius video.

[@channelnumber52]

I have been a GX fanboy since the series was new. In 2007 I was a 10 year old running a jank HERO deck at locals. I NEED them to finish the NEX fusion monsters .They don't need to be good. But, I NEED them to be made. The 2 they did make look weird in my binder. They couldn't even give us 3 so they could take up a whole row together.

[@KingOfSciliy]

Retrain them into new "E Heros"; - E Hero Neo Spaceman - E Hero Neo Grandmole - E Hero Neo Scarab - E Hero Neo Panther - E Hero Neo Glowmoss - E Hero Neo Dolphin - E Hero Neo Hummingbird Fusion "E Heros": - E Hero Neo Graniteman - E Hero Neo Pyromancer - E Hero Neo Shadowcat - E Hero Neo Radiation - E Hero Neo Aquanaut - E Hero Neo Ornithopter Double Fusion "E Hero" (when this card is returned to the Extra Deck, you can Special Summon 1 "E Hero Neo" monster from your Hand, Deck or Graveyard).: - E Hero Neo Volcanian (EARTH + FIRE) - E Hero Neo Galatician (EARTH + DARK) - E Hero Neo Diamant (EARTH + LIGHT) - E Hero Neo Tsunami (EARTH + WATER) - E Hero Neo Sandtornado (EARTH + AIR) - E Hero Neo Hellflame (FIRE + DARK) - E Hero Neo Supernova (FIRE + LIGHT) - E Hero Neo Sunshower (FIRE + WATER) - E Hero Neo Firebird (FIRE + AIR) - E Hero Neo Chiaroscur (DARK + LIGHT) - E Hero Neo Deepabyss (DARK + WATER) - E Hero Neo Nighthunter (DARK + AIR) - E Hero Neo Thunderer (LIGHT + WATER) - E Hero Neo Atmosphere (LIGHT + AIR) - E Hero Neo Stormaggedon (WATER + AIR) Comibined Fusion: - E Hero Neo Oblivion (5+ "E Hero Neo" monsters)

[@burblebineabbletv]

Really great stuff! I think Neo-Spacians would've been a lot better out the gate if they were treated as Heros in some fashion

[@kinglysander100]

I actually think the neo spacian archtype is actually pretty decent atm. The only big change that Konami needs to do to the neo spacains is either retrain the current six monsters or create a new field spell that makes the neo spacain monsters act as elemental hero monsters while in the deck,graveyard, hand and field. This field spell should also allow some sort of protection on HERO monsters.

[@bryantoro9608]

Ooguchi really said "ooguchi-space" 🌌" pro choice baby "❤ i like your videos

[@burblebineabbletv]

I'd play Ooguchi in Neo-Spacians over Neos personally 🤷‍♂️

[@bryantoro9608]

@@burblebineabbletv based ❣️

[@Yaboi-h]

an omni negate is the last thing the archetype needs

[@KvngZinaVX]

I want main deck masked heroes so bad

[@MrEffectfilms]

Neos Spacians as well as Rainbow Neos should count as Elemental Heroes while on the field or in the graveyard. That fact that you can't use Miracle Fusion to summon Rainbow Neos is ridiculous.

[@forgetfuldays9052]

I think it’s a good start but you don’t need a hard once per turn clause for neos and neo spacians any good recurrability would help the deck a lot considering how specific the materials are for each fusion. I definitely like the idea of making neo space much more viable but I think making the fuse a quick effect would have been better so you can dodge interruption. Neo space path finder and Neo space connector are as of now still unsearchable so I think you’d want a designated searcher for Neo space specific and perhaps an additional effect on pathfinder so she’s not dead in the hand if you already have Neo space. Otherwise definitely an interesting video hope we get legacy support

[@burblebineabbletv]

I added the Hard OPT on Neos because I didn't want it to just completely mirror Cyber Dragon. I wanted it to be Jaden's counterpart but neutered. And the contact Fusion being a Quick Effect would've been really cool!

[@madeinmeme9688]

The Blizzard/ice princess archetype. It never recived any support after it came out and it's barely an archetype.

[@burblebineabbletv]

Is that the one with the Ice Counters?

[@madeinmeme9688]

@@burblebineabbletv nope, it's the one used by Rio Kastle in Zexal. It was supposed to spam winged-beast/water attribute monsters that negate the effects and lowers the attacks of the opponent's monsters, but it's almost impossible to summon them, expecially ice princess Zereort.

[@Cragmortis]

Could you do Black Luster Soldier next?

[@burblebineabbletv]

I'll take a look at it! 🗡

[@macieceballos3051]

Honestly cards like E-HERO neos, the neo spacians, dark magician, & blue eyes need the gaia the fierce knight treatment, create an effect card version that is ALWAYS treated as the original but now has search ability with the archetype now too, best example of a retrain that helps the archetype though is the dark magician of the golden sarcophagus, part of a different archetype but helps out better in the other han the original

[@RTU130]

🤔

[@JPARnum1]

aqua dolphin (kills handtraps) is the most meta relevant not grand mole. neos alias was also relevant but that was way back with gemini spark. back when I used a neo spacian deck, my combo was future fusion (unerrata) (divine neos) cocoon party then nex (counts as 2 mons so double draws off space gift) and space gift for +3 to +6 into more space gifts then contacts and miracle fusions (though I had the deck way before it came out). the deck died after future fusion was errata'd. one more thing the neo spacian are a hard counter to timelords. dolphin snipes them from hand, mole bounces them, hummingbird heals the damage they inflict, panther copies their effects, glow moss (my favorite w/ NEX) stops their attacks, 1,2,3,4,5 yup that's all of them. jk scarab was my convert contact target xd.

[@sorrystillthinkingofanamec6735]

If you haven't done it yet you should do armed dragon.

[@burblebineabbletv]

I'll definitely give them a go! They're one of my favorite archetypes 🐉

[@jvsonic2468]

Based off of you giving a Field Spell a Quick Effect, I can already tell I can't take you seriously. If you were wanting to make card design in Yu-Gi-Oh!, you have to not know of PSCT to the greatest degree, but also follow what was precedented to how Konami designs those cards in a modern updated basis. Field Spells by nature at least on the field cannot have Quick Effects as they are part of the types of cards that ONLY starts a new chain of effect activations, making them Spell Speed 1. Study card design (by actually reading a section of recently printed cards within each card type) and game mechanic rulings before designing your own custom card designs for the public to see.

[@burblebineabbletv]

That would explain why Konami hasn't returned any of my calls... 😔

[@iamasnail8654]

mokey mokey deserve to be tenpai but better im begging you to do a video fixing mokey mokey beatdown

[@burblebineabbletv]

I gotchu! 😎

[@M3rtyville]

We still need a 2 Mokey fusion. The possibilities are endless.

[@ashemabahumat4173]

Should rename them from neo soacian to something else, since you made them all warriors

[@rubyknights5885]

Keep triple fusion

[@burblebineabbletv]

Don't get me wrong. I like the triple fusions, but they're overkill in materials for the original Neo-Spacians and with my addendum, are unnecessary

[@rubyknights5885]

@@burblebineabbletv that’s the whole point have them win the game no matter what

[@theorycrafters7281]

Could be cool to combine with the og heros somehow

[@Sunnernite]

All this would be too strong for the GX era

[@burblebineabbletv]

Eh, not necessarily. The sum of all of the effects is probably a bit more hyper consistent when compared to archetypes at the time. However at that time, we also had Cyber Dragon, Dark World, Six Samurai, and Gladiator Beast in around the 2 years of the original Neo-Spacian debut. I'd say my rewriting of Neo Space is probably veering away from the power cap of the GX era most, but everything else isn't too far fetched in the scope of effects, be that generic single cards and/or archetypes.

[@Vrejak367]

I love neo soacians 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@bamstarful]

YOU FIXED NOTHING! A terrible set of ideas & designs with basic fixes that lack imagination, robbing them of their signature interesting style, turning them into EVERY other dull paced series bad player's think of.....Hell do a chrysalis token card like scapegoat but if Neo-Space is on the field you banish the spell from the grave tribute any Chrysalis tokens to special summon Neo-Spacean from anywhere but none of the same name or of cards wirh that name already face up

[@burblebineabbletv]

Eh, to a point. Signature, interesting styles are good for the anime 🤷‍♂️

[@jacobemerson4749]

There's constructive criticism, and then there's this comment. >.> I think you did just fine. I think adjusting Neos into a parallel to Cyber Dragon was dope. Because I agree, Wingman should have remained the ace. And Shining Wingman should've been like 3000. And with the stat debuff, Neos's special summoning wouldn't have been so wild. Then honestly, I love the idea of the Spacians being special summonable. Like I alllllmost wanna say that would've been too "Blackwing" for the time, but then I think of things like Gladiator Beasts and then how bad Neos got screwed and it feels fine again. I think the new Neo Space would be wild. Being a searcher, Poly, and protective De-Fusion all in one. Cause it's their territory. And especially when considering that the Neos Fusions would now be "regular requirement" fusion monsters UNLESS under Neo Space. I think they would flow into Heroes a lot better if that were the case. And really, the only thing I would add to what you said would be an overall name change. "Neo Hero" or something. Cause I wanna keep the "EN" flow going, ya know. But also like, if a name change was off the table, just add a "This card is always treated as an Elemental HERO card" clause to it, and boom. They're searchable by E-Call. Then in the future, Stratos, Shadow Mist, and Cross Crusader. Infernal Devicer would see play in every Neos deck. It'd be dope. Cool concept man. Don't let the haters get you down.

[@bamstarful]

@@jacobemerson4749 thats the issue why make the Spacians just another Hero print we have 6 anyway(and Masked still no main deck while EVIL is in a dumb limbo) while the main character rule of 1st ace 2300, main ace 2500 wasn't full done yet(Gaia & Dark Magician, Junk Warrior & Stardust Dragon, Link Warrior & Link Dragon) so the random 2100 does seem out of place your correct they could of done something like "Finished Hero's" main deck monster version of the the e-hero fusions like older/retired but basing one set of retrains on a the play style of a different arctype(cyber dragons in this case) is just a wrong move keep in the family expand on cryalus or those dumb evolved versions of main 6 neo Spacians fusion version lol we know they never finished that perhaps do a set were they are neos free