I got your mom an iPad - Apple iPad (10th Generation)

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Riley LOVES iPads, so we gave him the new 10th generation iPad to see his thoughts. Does the 1st Gen Apple Pencil make sense? Should you use your iPad outside? Does Riley hate moms? We try to answer these questions and more in this video!
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 It's the iPad guy!
0:19 Unboxing
0:35 Initial design and spec impressions
2:44 What else is in the box?
2:56 The Magic Keyboard
3:59 Sponsor - dbrand
4:58 We're not finished with the keyboard
6:27 Why are there missing features?
7:12 Display impressions
7:38 Can you use iPads outside?
8:17 Camera/Mic impressions
9:44 Speaker impressions
10:52 Talking about the Pencil scandal
12:15 Pricing and overall thoughts
14:12 Outro

[@trentonellerman4085]

Riley is the guy to make jokes about how hot your mom is, but over time develops a very real interest in dating your mom and becoming your stepfather.

[@0AThijs]

The good ending!

[@ArniesTech]

Bruh...

[@Ghost_1585]

💀

[@duskfallmusic]

I'd be disturbed in ... the fact that i'm likely older than Riley lmao - if RILEY DATES MY MOM AND BECOMES MY STEPDAD RILEY WOULD EITHER BE THE SAME AGE OR YOUNGER THAN ME XD

[@bmo3778]

ewww

[@sturdybutter]

Riley is easily one of the best personalities on all of KZbin.

[@ArniesTech]

He reminds me of a GTA character 😅

[@PhenomII1090T]

I always imagine him responding with the movie quote "and I love you random citizen"... Makes me laugh every time...

[@shame1039]

@@PhenomII1090T no, that's Markiplier

[@seanlacroix]

Not even close

[@cp37373]

You can’t be that stupid…he’s literally too annoying to listen to.

[@ace1656]

I love how not amused Riley is lol

[@dylonadams1660]

minimalism at work lol

[@electrontube]

the personification of the word "tepid" the man knows his place in the world.

[@danceyrselfkleen]

For sure and man you can tell he’s packing an absolute hog-8 inches plus I would guess. Bet it’s got girth too lol what do you guys think??

[@danceyrselfkleen]

@symplamix I said what I said?

[@fancyyahoo]

@symplamix I think it's related to the "mom" jokes that are going on with Riley in this video.

[@Neoxon619]

I know Apple has no choice but to adopt USB-C now, but I always found it weird how the iPad line took up USB-C but the iPhones didn’t.

[@DynMads]

Apple was the one to push USB-C to start with so it's even stranger.

[@yamiteru4376]

I think they said it's because water resistance

[@KyleDavis328]

@@yamiteru4376 That's their excuse for the headphone jack, either of which is complete BS. My S10e has _both_ a type-c port and a headphone jack and has an IP68 water resistance rating.

[@yugen0o]

Or get rid of the port entirely and only support wireless charging. Or they could just keep the port, add wireless charging and not allow the port to charge the device.

[@mile4809]

i think they update iphone more often and have more time to transfer it.

[@MeowThingy]

You really shouldn't have, Riley.

[@RILEYismyname]

she's worth it

[@tiestofalljays]

@@RILEYismyname thanks :)

[@warbear0424]

Commas matter.

[@Felttipfuzzywuzzyflyguy]

No, really, you shouldn't have. XD

[@shane-porter]

Oh, I see what you mean. At first I thought it was a harsh comment about LMG’s team composition.

[@AdianBlack]

This feels like a parody of an unboxing, a crazy fever dream that we all took part in lol

[@DeadHawk23]

Honestly tablets are the one thing that I like thick bezels on. It just helps with holding it comfortably.

[@DecidiousGreens]

Yep

[@Aidiakapi]

It could probably be a little bit thinner, but at the same time, I miss bezels on phones. It's still annoying, especially with curved edges.

[@woahitsalma1022]

As someone with carpal tunnel, I second this!!!! It’s easier to grip without having a death grip on it which is comfortable on my wrist as someone who uses it to draw on procreate!

[@blunderingfool]

The good thing about centered camera is that it helps people look more natural in video calls. It's very hard to get people looking at cameras because we naturally want to look at faces.

[@nitePhyyre]

And if everyone is looking at the camera, then it didn't matter that the "eye contact" looks more natural, because people are looking away.

[@ayaanpathan7169]

But the cost would be that your 500 dollar tablet can't support a damned stylus whereas my 220 dollar samsung s6 lite supports a stylus more elegantly (magnetically, along the top). This was most definitely a shitty implementation.

[@drblackrat]

The Kickstand is basically how the Keyboard Book covers for Galaxy Tablets have worked for years. I love that from factor because it allows you to sill use the kickstand even without the keybaord.

[@thebuddercweeper]

But it takes more desk space and doesn't work on one's knee even remotely well

[@Deadmagic100]

@@thebuddercweeper I mean the kickstand on the legs isn't ideal, but i've never really had all that many problems with putting it on my legs/knees. I agree with the space though. Especially if limited, and the keyboard hangs off the surface a little.

[@utubekullanicisi]

​@@thebuddercweeper For sure and that's why the fancier Magic Keyboard will continue to exist on the high end and probably get this new one's fn keys in the future but keep in mind, on the table you can just use the back cover portion of it and use your Mac's keyboard instead thanks to Universal Control, and then when you're on the go you can attach the keyboard cover. In the end I think both this and the floating Magic Keyboard (however expensive it is) are good solutions for a hardware keyboard for a tablet, but the higher-end Magic Keyboard is better and frankly the best keyboard solution for a tablet on the market imo.

[@SamSmithSMusic]

Gosh, everything with Riley is just the best. From short circuit to tech linked he is THE man of entertainment!

[@danceyrselfkleen]

For sure and man you can tell he’s packing an absolute hog-8 inches plus I would guess. Bet it’s got girth too lol what do you guys think??

[@albak0]

I’ve actually got used to volume control switching places on my iPad. What drives me crazy that it is not consistent on iPhones and iPads. If you want to have it, implement it on every device not on only one

[@sebastianjost]

Why even implement that in the first place though? Sure you can get used to it, but to my knowledge, no one ever had a problem with the buttons not switching functions. It seems like a very unnecessary feature. Maybe nice to have as an option, but this shouldn't be the default behavior i.m.o..

[@kareemelsadek]

You can disable it in settings

[@MultiWirth]

i have this for many years on my phones.

[@aspensareprettyneat4002]

@@sebastianjost They added it because they moved the button positions on the Mini and it made more sense there, then pushed it to all the others. That said, as someone with an iPad Pro, you get used to it after the first or second time you use it and it does actually make a lot more sense after that. If you have it in landscape, pressing the 'right' volume button increases the volume - the volume slider increases to the right. if you turn it to portrait, pressing up increases the volume slider up. You literally just click the volume in the direction you want it to go. Now after getting used to it, I couldn't imagine not having that feature. Pressing the left button in landscape to make the volume go up feels weird now on my phone in landscape. It's going against the visual indicator on the screen, and it is also going against the common norm that volume goes 0 to 100, left to right. It sounds dumb until you actually start to use it, then you realize it's actually a very intuitive design choice - you don't have to think about what button you press. More volume, press the direction of more volume no matter how you are holding the iPad.

[@TTKChristo]

Or make it an option since this is completely software driven anyways?

[@TheTechNopal]

I really liked when he said "it's iPad time" and started iPadding

[@Der-Kleine]

As a Galaxsy Tab S7 owner, It's really hard to look at the accessories for this tablet and not think "why didn't they just copy Samsung?". The stand on the book cover of my tablet supports basically any angle, all the way up to 175°. And by having the pen charge on the back of the tablet, having the front facing camera centered in landscape mode is not an issue. As a bonus, the back cover with the stand also covers the pen charging spot, providing you with a nice bulge to grip on to when holding the tablet one handed. And then there's apple's dumb limited stand and pen that must stick out of the tablet to charge...

[@thebuddercweeper]

I haven't seen one of those in person but I've seen reviews and all the back-pen-charging tablets I've seen seem to have some pretty big drawbacks from putting it there. Also, you can (and should) charge the Apple Pencil 1 with a cable, not by plugging it into the iPad. It's not the perfect solution, but it's a hell of a lot better than most people think. Anyway, there's really no reason not to just get the iPad Air 4 refurbished or second hand and Apple Pencil 2, which have none of the issues of the iPad 10. I think the iPad 10 is Apple telling people "here's what happens when we do all the stuff you asked us to"

[@topethermohenes7658]

@@thebuddercweeper actually no, missing stage manager is not what people want. Apple already has the software and hardware capable of true multi-task but just doesn't do it for reasons unknown to anyone. And also why not put the pencil on the top part (the left side when on landscape)?? It's exactly the same length as the pencil, it doesn't have any camera software anymore and it doesn't really undermine the iPads looks.

[@thebuddercweeper]

@@topethermohenes7658 two very good reasons: buttons and speakers.

[@baoquoc3710]

@Carl Gunderson dynamic Island a.k.a the thing that samsung implemented on the S10 plus?

[@Der-Kleine]

@@thebuddercweeper and those drawbacks of the back-pen charging would be... what exactly? Couldn't you have at least listed one example if you're going to bring it up? The only thing I can think of is that it's not great if you don't have the back cover with the stand and want to lay the tablet down somewhere, but I'd argue that the stand is kind of a mandatory accessory anyway.

[@Pluto_protogen]

They should either add a touch id sensor to the power button for the iphone as well.

[@TikoyTV]

Oooor???

[@kenny-ph9dw]

That's not innovative at all but they should do it. But they're probably gonna call it the 'super duper side 360 finger print sensor' and then it works just like an s10e or an Xperia

[@2moke2creen]

You'd think so but in typical Apple fashion they gatekeep the features you actually want and tell you instead what you want *cough* FaceID.

[@Cat-cb9ep]

But with current case designs, the power button would just be covered. I think if Apple HAD to include TouchID, an under-display sensor would be the best option. But I don’t really see the need for TouchID since FaceID or a passcode seem to cover most bases.

[@kingdelledroghe1957]

Face ID is far superior to fingerprint sensors what are you even talking about, you phone unlocks just by looking at it, how you can spin this as a negative is crazy

[@JimmyMish]

There is a setting that lets you choose how volume works on iPad, whether you want it to change on rotation or be the same regardless of rotation

[@evilarhan1]

I used to use a secondhand iPad Air 2 a lot outdoors, as a wireless display for several cameras: mirrorless, action, and 360. There absolutely is a use case for iPads outdoors, especially cheaper models that will be used more as wireless displays for smaller productions than anything else. And you won't mind (as much) if they get a little beat up or die, as my poor iPad did; the pain was more sentimental than financial. On the consumer end, it was the best comic reader I had by far, and I enjoy reading outdoors when I can. The only replacement I have for outdoor reading now is a kindle, which is too small to read comics on but fine for everything else.

[@GiannisTsolakidis]

So why is the apple logo still vertical

[@EuphoMan287]

The display brightness makes a huge difference for Live audio Professionals. We often work small scale live stages with iPad enabled mixing consoles. Try doing mission critical work with your back turned and an arm covering half your screen

[@lucasgomes6096]

9:30 Hot damn, I didn't even notice they changed the audio to the iPad's mic, that was pretty damn good.

[@jarboer]

9:50 You can change the way the volume buttons work in Settings > Sounds then change "Fixed Position Volume Controls"

[@AdamHansen95]

I like tech quickie, but I really do miss Riley on short circuit and the main channel, so this was a good video to watch lol. thank you

[@dkursada]

12:10 Sadly, Riley, I think that there's also a second technical limitation to the iPad screen that's responsible for the whole "Pencil 2 not available for the new iPad" scandal. iPad 10's screen is not laminated, like the basic iPads came before it. So this situation might've arised because Apple Pencil 1 works with non-laminated screens and Apple Pencil 2 is only available for fully laminated screens, like the ones iPad Airs and Pros have.

[@thebuddercweeper]

9:58 enable fixed position volume controls in sound settings, then it's the same regardless of orientation

[@stevethepocket]

The volume thing is something I've been wanting for a long time, and I had no idea they'd added it way back in 15.4. Best part is, it works in all four orientations-it's always either left for down and right for up, or up for up and down for down.

[@SpaceDoodle2008]

I've got kind of the same 'Folio' for my 2018 released IdeaPad Duet Chromebook. Especially when it comes to the backplate!

[@seabrookmx]

Yeah the design is _very_ similar all around. I still use my Duet but it's pretty damn slow.. I'm sure this iPad will run circles around it (and it better for what it costs).

[@cadenchurchill4296]

I’ve got the M1 11” iPad Pro with the Logitech Folio Touch case and I very much prefer it to Apple’s offering. Not to mention the iPad is such a useful device and probably my favourite Apple product I own.

[@bentrinker1937]

I gave my mom my iPad Air 4 and I went to an 11 inch pro 256 gb as a laptop replacement. She love the air 4 and Apple Pencil 2!

[@iqcq2063]

Aww thanks Riley she loves it!!

[@djaxxxel]

I love Riley's reviews.

[@StrifePulse]

At 9:55, you can actually change this volume button behaviour in Settings > Sounds > Fixed Position Volume Controls

[@D-Rockk]

I love Riley's energy! 4:24

[@kmauldin03]

9:45 I didn’t know that it could do that with the volume buttons, then I looked and there’s a setting in Sounds called “Fixed Position Volume Controls”. If it’s switched off it will do that in landscape but if it’s on it will work like normal.

[@MissouriMatt54]

Thank you for the informative video. Your presentation stye has improved immensely over your videos. Thank you.

[@yumiko579]

9:32 your stepdad gives you a pep talk for bad grades in school.

[@Thewaterspirit57]

Stage manager us only available for M1 iPads because of said features required for the feature. Something about ram, virtual memory, which is guess most iPads don’t have virtual memory, which would mean they’d need fairly fast storage for that. At least older iPad pros will get this feature. Plus I wouldn’t really see people on these iPads using that feature much.

[@BroBlackWolf1]

I kind of been debating about getting me this iPad. The only reason why I want it is I’m tired of bringing my monitor outside to hook up my Apple TV just to exercise with Fitness+ . You may be ask why do you exercise outside with your monitor and Apple TV. Well I’ll live full-time in a camper. Certain exercises in the camper I cannot do because my ceiling is 7 foot and I’m 5.9 The main reason why I live in my camper is that I rent a spot in the campground $400 a month it includes all utilities, except for propane. I love this lifestyle. I have extra money to do what I love to do.

[@OntarioGuy430]

Thanks Riley - She got it today - This basically just means I have even more tech support to do now!

[@thunderturbine8860]

Gotta love Riley 😃His presentation style and knowledge on the subject makes the video interesting. Makes me want to buy another iPad all of a sudden 😂😂😂 I have the original iPad Air

[@danceyrselfkleen]

For sure and man you can tell he’s packing an absolute hog-8 inches plus I would guess. Bet it’s got girth too lol what do you guys think??

[@micha835]

There is a setting that allows you to disable the switching of the volume buttons while you rotate your iPad.

[@gadgetguy99]

The pencil charging situation infuriates me even more than the original pencil charging cable adapter.

[@AnuraagDaniel]

I'd buy this if it were on sale

[@Groovewonder2]

If the device is an actual straight up tablet (iPad, Surface, etc), landscape cameras are preferred, because you're more likely to being doing productive stuff in landscape. plus, with the advent of using tablets for productive reasons and functional detachable keyboards (typecovers) and the requirement they're used in landscape, it's basically required to be in a landscape position.

[@mrknighttheitguy8434]

I love how Riley judges people if they have an iPad!

[@thatguyjimbo]

how did i not find this video. Watched a couple reviews on the 10th gen ipad and I ended up getting one.

[@AsianAccordionist]

I use my IPad Pro to read sheet music for gigs, that are sometimes outside lol.

[@dylonadams1660]

Does anyone else think Riley is Ned Flanders?

[@hocek11]

In Poland it is sold 100$ over base model ipad 10 US price and Ipad 9 is sold on what ipad 10 should cost. Basically every time apple updates or launches product price of previous gen goes up.

[@darkbro111]

they have a surface pro keyboard set up now, so that makes me wonder why they didn't move the gen 2 pencil charger to the bottom of the ipad so that the gen 2 can nest into the keyboard like it does with the surface pro

[@radiatamusic]

It also doesn't help that a whole bunch of the 10th gen iPads are defective. I work at an electronics store and we keep getting returns of them because the pencils just aren't working even with the adapter. At least the displays are working at all though, when the 5th gen air launched we had an issue where people were returning them cuz the screen just weren't working for touch altogether. It's gotten to the point that with how unstable the last couple iPad launches are I don't feel comfortable recommending one to a customer until months after launch.

[@samcriss4854]

Literally the only thing to look forward to when new iPads come out 😂

[@Morecreativemind]

10:00 Was confusing to me, but It actually Is Way Much Useful for me

[@KevinSiebert]

Congrats on 2M subs

[@Inate8]

Riley killed it this video. Like an apple fueled adhd rant from his soul. 😂😂😂 Also, does he look like J. J. Jameson now?

[@jimmyjazz7414]

I literally just bought one of these for my mom for Christmas. It showed up this morning.

[@Brian-Fitz]

We need more Riley

[@DarkWulf40]

Has not everyone seen by now that the Gen 1 Apple Pencil comes with a Lightning cable to Lightning cable adapter to charge the pencil with a cable?

[@bjarnevanhoesel5416]

1.99 mil subs, almost there!

[@bejoro]

My mom’s birthday is next week your timing is impeccable

[@Flick2446]

Need more hardware reviews! Laptops, tablets, monitors, etc!

[@Ricardoromero4444]

Man I'd love to get a good desktop-capable tablet. I always use an external keyboard so laptops always take a ton of space (not to mention I'm paying for a keyboard I don't use).

[@Hansence]

The volume button situation can be modified in settings

[@thatpitter]

You can change the behavior of the volume buttons in settings to not change based on orientation…

[@dielucky3378]

As an first generation Pencil user, I gotta throw out there: I only charge my pencil with the dongle/converter included with the pencil attached to a charger. I have pugged the pencil into the bottom port a total of 5 times, once to charge it in an emergency, and the other 4 times were to pair it after an update or a crash. If you're plugging it into your ipad to charge it, you aren't using a good case, because I have to remove the case to plug in the pencil to the port. I am so clumsy, plugging the pencil into the bottom of the iPad is asking for broken stuff, but the cable and converter charging situation is fine. I use the iPad and pencil literally every single day, and have since I got it in 2018. It is better in some ways than my 27" Wacom monitor.

[@fhm4]

i almost missed the sarcastic point on the flash. i was about to believe it. good thing i rewinded

[@shadow_the_hedgehog_simp]

9:54 theres a setting to change that under sound settings at the bottom

[@wubbishwon]

The samsung Tab S7 S8 tablet had the magnetic kickstand and the camera on landscape. It's amazing when WFH. It has taken Apple a while to bring these features

[@turdsquirter]

The volume rotation has a switch in the settings to be turned off

[@BlueKnight87]

Aww come on apple, we've got TouchID on your home button-less iPads (spare the pro) AND on your Apple Silicon powered Macs, where's our home button-less iPhones with TouchID?

[@dwightquinol7071]

I love dbrand's relationship with Linus LMAO

[@SomeBud]

9:50 This *can* be changed on the “Sounds” settings.

[@MarquesAllenJones]

i have a pretty old ipad i bought for watching movies on trips in the before time. i now use it mainly as a way to have my recipes in front of me in the kitchen and to play pokemon go on a separate account. any time i pull it out while walking down the street it feels extremely weird.

[@SixOThree]

Wow. Those bezels are just crazy. It's almost 2023 and they're like an inch thick on all sides.

[@Zushikikato]

Well I need the nits because I'll use it as an infotainment system in my car (if I can afford it) my last one was a 7th gen with TLE because I also use it as GPS..

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Contrary to what almost all reviewers say, it does not have 4 speakers. Only 2 of the grills have speakers behind them (left in portrait, top in landscape). It’s the same as the mini.

[@noxious_nights]

There's a setting to turn off the volume-buttons-changing-when-you-turn-the-device thing

[@bradwearsprada4728]

The best phone speakers still go to the HTC one/one max. You could get a little subwoofer that connected with NFC to them. Thems were the days

[@Cjorss]

Honestly I just watch these reviews because of how funny Riley is, I don't care what the product is

[@cooldudevivek100]

Hi bruh help me i have ipad9 since I updated it to ios16.3 many application(app store ,and many others app ) doesn't connect to internet but KZbin, Web browser etc are running smoothly.What to do? even in setting i can't see upgrades even can't clear all data as it requires internet.

[@D-Rockk]

Omg Riley made the ad so funny and interesting

[@pocketpinguin]

you can change if the volume buttons change with rotation or always stay the same (which i turned on)

[@Sharan25]

W to Riley for giving mom an iPad

[@Wzooff]

Its very interesting situation with Logitech Crayon pencil. It works on my old ipad mini 4 and on new ipad air that support new pencil 2

[@xanedan4565]

While I'm not a fan of lightning and they might as well update to USB-C, in this age of wireless charging and cloud services I don't believe I have ever plugged anything in to my current iPhone in the 6 months or so I've had it. It's just weird how much focus it gets. Also, am I the only one who would love an iPad without a rear camera? I'm never going to use the darned thing, and it makes it sit on my table weird.

[@aspensareprettyneat4002]

Same, I have a wireless charger stand at home and a wireless pad on my desk at work. My car mount wirelessly charges as well. I can't remember the last time I actually plugged my phone in to charge it. I think I've plugged in my AirPod Pros to charge a total of 5 times since I got them half a year ago. For file transfer I've never had issues just using AirDrop. Watching my wife do that between her MacBook and iPhone when I was a 100% Windows+Android guy is one of the things that pulled me into the ecosystem. Now I use it daily for work to move things between my iPad Pro and my MacBook. And then there's Universal Control, where you can literally just drag files between them like one device. Freaking love it. I wasted soooo much time trying to create this experience between my Windows and Android devices. Logitech Flow was my biggest hope and I always had problems with it. Most cases solve the table+camera issue, but I do understand the frustration. Why have a case when you can have AppleCare, especially now that it's been expanded to -unlimited- yearly repairs ;)

[@r3mpuh]

Just get a case

[@bandito241]

Imo stage manager works great for users that uses the mouse but for my mainly touch only use I prefer the old way.

[@jirosaves_theworld]

"RILEY IF YOU FEEL DANGEROUS PLEASE WINK TWICE TO CAMERA" lololololol the energy of not amusing way too strong

[@superhavi]

The Apple Pencil 2 does only work on laminated dispays. That's why the base Ipad still uses the 1st gen Pencil.

[@Shehryys]

you can actualy lock the volume buttons

[@jediisaphilanthropist7710]

my mom's first gen pen came with a way to attach the pen to the charging cable much better than plugging it into the charging port on the iPad itself

[@im4d3m0n_]

**Apple not supporting the 2nd gen pen because the camera is now on the side** The other side of the ipad literally being a perfect place for the pen: *for the people who miss understand, I mean where the camera used to sit

[@thischannelisforcommenting5680]

then you can't use the keyboard polio

[@thebuddercweeper]

that's where the Smart Connector is. They *could* have moved the Smart Connector to the back and made it compatible with the regular Magic Keyboard case instead (though that would increase the price of both together even more), but that would mean charging the pencil on the (landscape) bottom of the iPad, so you couldn't charge it or keep it attached when the Magic Keyboard is closed. Possible, but maybe just as or more janky than what they went with.

[@Cat-cb9ep]

I think they they’re referring to the top side of the IPad, where the camera used to sit

[@im4d3m0n_]

@@Cat-cb9ep yeah

[@thebuddercweeper]

Oh so you mean the side with the speakers and power button, and no space for the pencil?

[@iam_soumya]

9:50 the airgap and reflection is blinding

[@andrescarrasco1248]

Lenovo DUET has literally the same keyboard and back case for $250 with the keyboard and case included in the box

[@them0890]

how long, until there is a save company releasing stick on adapters for the gen 1 pencil? like replacing the cap with an adapter that says there

[@Sylkis89]

why didn't they allow for charginf the pencil magnetically either at the bottom of the landscape mode or the top of the portrait mode...

[@Trooper1911]

Jesus, their keyboard is priced the same as the Surface Pro, but with Surface you get the amazing pen included.

[@simmmomom]

Funny thing is the Logitech combo touch from 2020 has almost the same function keys

[@dillonmitchell1568]

glad i saw this. i was going to get one to replace my fire hd, but not now. I gotta have the headphone jack. I sleep with them in my ear, and wireless dont last 8 hrs. really sucks

[@DarthRambo007]

Edifier tws1 pro last 12 hrs

[@luckylukeskywalker]

i absolutely agree with riley on the pricing. Like, when somebody just want's a basic laptop, does apple seriously think they would go "yeah sure let's buy an ipad - oh wait, i'd like a keyboard. 200 bucks? sure, whatever"..

[@JohnFerrier]

My mom is going to be happy. Thank you!

[@GigawattGarage]

the base iPad 9th gen for $329 is great and can be had for less b/c it's constantly on sale. really if u want more of an iPad just get the pro with m1 then u get all the features with the better screen

[@forceofone]

gotta wonder why they used the a14 bionic cpu...i grabbed an ipad mini 6 last year to use as a drone screen,and it has the a15 bionic from the iphone 13 pro max.you'd think they would have at least used that.