Apple is cutting corners - iPad (10th Gen) Review

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The brand new 10th generation iPad could be the perfect iPad for most people. But while Apple has cut the corners off the screen they cut corners elsewhere too.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 How iPad prices go up
0:59 Introducing the new 10th Gen iPad
2:16 New iPad Old Pencil
3:20 Old Pencil New Adapter
4:17 Magic Keyboard.... Folio
5:15 Thanks Squarespace!
5:44 New USB Port Old USB Standard
6:21 New Shape Old Screen
7:03 Look at the Old Devices
8:41 Conclusion

[@repatch43]

Honestly, when it comes to Apple products it's OFTEN the better idea to buy the upper models from a few years ago than the newest lower tier model

[@emiel333]

I couldn’t agree more.

[@Shrek_Has_Covid19]

and hope you don't get an icloud locked brick

[@SkeletonGuts]

@@Shrek_Has_Covid19 I don't think that would happen if you buy from the Apple refurbished store like shown in the video.

[@TTony5891]

this applies to tons of things. the build quality, time, effort and technology in the highest end products of any line were made to be the highest end of that line. There was a point in time when it was a top model, there was never a point in time where, for example, this ipad is the top model

[@Ph0enix7373]

If ur on a budget i have found it is always better to buy the premium model from a year ago than the budget model that just came out

[@OneWithLogic]

I appreciate that Jonathan is a fan of Apple but doesn't just swallow Apple's ridiculous changes because it's Apple

[@39zack]

That's why this channel is great 😸

[@fist003]

agreed, one of the best host for LMG

[@adrevanderwesthuizen7262]

Yes

[@alexandergustafson599]

Don't be a fan of a company, be a fan of their products.

[@NotThatUser]

I agree Quote from Cave Story.

[@blazedancer]

Framing the 1st gen pencil as "from the Obama era" got a good laugh out of me. Really puts into perspective what's going on with this Apple pencil debacle.

[@splatman7300]

So I bought my parents a 9th gen iPad about a week before they announced the 10th gen. My first reaction was "I knew they would release a new one as soon as I bought this", but then I saw basically everything in this video and was glad I'd just gotten the 9th gen on sale as there was nothing about the 10th gen that would offer my parents a better experience for the price

[@transitengineer]

Yes, for us over age 50, the basic iPad 9th generation is the best way to go. Also, it is even better if, like you did you are able to save some money (smile...smile).

[@good-tn9sr]

yea i got the ipad 9 for my textbooks and watching movies and nothing more. And i got it on sale at $289 so i’m very satisfied with what i have

[@thekwoka4707]

Well at least lucky for you the new one sucked lol I got my girlfriend an ipad pro then 2 months later the m1 ipad pros came out. got my mother an ipad air and 2 months later the m1 airs came out. Does anyone want m1 airpods?

[@takoflame4948]

it comes down to what suits ur needs

[@rayquazahere8529]

A friend of mine was waiting for this one, told him to get the 9th gen. And good he did that, because when new iPad came out in my country (in eu) every older model got a nice price hike too, so in the end he saved around 80 euro on getting the 9th gen one before 10th gen came out. I like Apple a lot as a company, but with their current Euro pricing I start to wonder if my next phone will be a iPhone too after years, luckily I never imprisoned myself into their eco system too much, Apple Watch aside.

[@huaen8880]

What scared me was when I was in an apple store and I saw someone (who, coincidentally, said she loved everything apple) talking to a store assistant about buying the 10th gen ipad, commenting on the colours and how nice it looked. I didn't hear a single comment about value, utility or comparisons to the other models. The average consumer doesn't understand all the intricate details that make one apple product worth it and another not, and will just keep buying whatever apple puts on the shelf, doubly so if it comes with nice colours.

[@MrMartellSincere]

Based

[@_trudge]

i like the purple ones

[@porquee]

@@MrMartellSincere the spec reading nerd fears the chad color enjoyer

[@MarinessNTU]

Haha what’s wrong with that? People got more important things to do than reading specs.

[@theorangeoof926]

@@MarinessNTUt does matter when you’re putting your hard earned wages into it, after all wouldn’t people want the most bang for their buck?

[@scottfcrowley]

I picked up a 9th generation iPad just because the value was so much cheaper compared to anything else. I’m also starting to appreciate the old style form factor with the home button especially when I have access to the swipe to home gesture and all the other gestures anyway. My iPad is basically an on-the-go LTE TeamViewer machine for when I’m giving customers support as a tech engineer and a secondary display for my M1 MacBook Air.

[@gogobrasil7185]

This only highlights how good the 9th gen is. Hopefully it isn't the last base iPad with sane pricing.

[@Alex-hv3ir]

@@gogobrasil7185 it already is the last, wdym?

[@sloppynyuszi]

@@Alex-hv3ir I think he is hoping the price point stays the same in the next update. Eg the iPad 11 goes down in price next generation

[@Alex-hv3ir]

@@sloppynyuszi so that the 11th gen, would get a price decrease back to 329? It will never happen in this world that you get a new “better” product for less price

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

The value must be better and not cheaper, surely?

[@jaxweby4343]

The 10th gen is an awkward middle child in my eyes - I have the 9th gen as it does everything I need it to and I'm not concerned about the extra wide bezels or its weaker chip, but if I wanted something better, I'd go with the Air because it lacks the compromises of the 10th gen. I think it's just a stepping stone to push a new product and make the others seem better in comparison.

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

But you also lose the headphone jack... and for the same price as the Air with 64GB, you could get a 9th Gen with 256GB. lol

[@Thewaterspirit57]

@@Nurse_Xochitl Yet the Air 5 also has more than double the ram compared to a 9th gen 256GB ipad, along with USB-C THAT WORKS WELL. So its a worthwhile investment getting an ipad air 5 with 256GBs of storage, cuz its a far better upgrade if you're considering that. the 10th gen is only worth it, if you simply can't get something like an ipad air or a mini with a pencil 2, but want a device that will last longer.

[@takoflame4948]

@@Nurse_Xochitl true and not everyone wants whats on the air and pay extra

[@techmaester]

The camera quality is always low on these iPads. At least the iPad Pro has a camera quality like iPhone 7. Webcam on MacBook Air is like all other laptops--compressed and poor color rendition. Basically camera tech from 2001.

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

@@techmaester tablets in general get low end/older cameras that aren't as nice

[@LeoQKepler]

Actually having a non laminated display is a plus because it will be cheaper to repair

[@katrinabryce]

If it had been an Air 4 with a non-laminated display, nobody would have complained. The 9th gen is after all an Air 3 with non-laminated display.

[@LeoQKepler]

@@katrinabryce true

[@AjalaKingsGreenstream]

or having not apple devices on a whole lol

[@tsakeboya]

Non laminated screens suck for artists, which are usually a big market for the iPads

[@michealpersicko9531]

@@tsakeboya OK then i'll just go get a Galaxy s8+ tablet with 16gb of ram, up to 1tb of storage with expandable memory, a 12.in super AMOLED display, the faster than the a14 bionic chip Snapdragon Gen 1,and an S Pen that comes with it that can wirelessly charge and magnetically attaches to the back of the tablet and both the the wifi and wifi+cellular models cost onl 599 plus tax. The iPad 10th gen only gets 256gb storage, way less ram, a crappier looking LCD panel, all the bullshit to use the stylus you have to pay 99 bucks extra for, and if you want to get the model with cellular it's going to cost you 749 instead of 599 for the wifi only model. Oh and the s8+ has 3 different models with the only difference between them is the amount of ram they have.

[@Neoxon619]

I mean, you aren’t wrong. And honestly, I would’ve kept the original placement for the front-facing camera if it meant using the new Apple Pencil. Either that or make a version of the first generation Apple Pencil that uses USB-C rather than Lightning.

[@t1merickson]

You're just describing the 4th gen iPad Air. Buy that instead for only $20 more than this new iPad. Check the Apple Refurbished store (quality and warranty is exactly the same as 'New')

[@hermitgreenn]

Shocking that Apple didn't develop an add-on to the 1st gen Pencil that blends in with the original's shape and accepts the original cap. That way you can adapt it to USB-C and LEAVE IT ON.

[@Thewaterspirit57]

Yeah no. that would mean people would have to buy that Apple pencil AGAIN, which would waste money. That's the exact same reason why apple kept Apple pencil 1 with the 10th gen ipad, because people would be forced to buy the Pencil 2, especially since 3rd party stylus' have been going down in quality over the years. The only time it would be viable, is if Apple made that pencil and offered a free upgrade, with user only needing to pay for shipping.

[@Retronyx]

or just get a Samsung tablet? literally s pen charges with a landscape camera design lol

[@gaygekko]

Honestly, just get the Logitech Crayon 2nd gen, it's basically a 1st gen Apple Pencil but with USB-C.

[@jakeplease31]

Best review I’ve seen yet. Gets straight to the heart of just how odd this iPad release was

[@mamabun]

The base model iPads always been the workhorse for the education system. That is what the 10th gen seems to be geared towards.

[@mihaidragnea9785]

Schools don't care about the screen, rounded corners and all the other crap. They will keep buying the ipad 9th gen because they want the cheapest model that they can buy in bulk without messing with second hand or refurbishing. Plus the new adaptors just create incompatibility with previes pens they have shit loads of and so they have to get tens of adaptors that especially retailers might not even carry.

[@jolp9799]

students will for sure lose the little dongle thing to charge the pencil. can't imagine any education administration choosing this over the 9th gen that's cheaper and does all the things a kid needs for school

[@badspecgamer128]

@@mihaidragnea9785 that's exactly the point newest base model product they can buy in bulk. this is just apple squeezing its education partners of more money with an unneeded refresh.

[@TypicalBlox]

the 9th gen is better for education, an apple pencil seems to have more use cases for learning than a keyboard for things like art and such. Also like someone else said, when buying in bulk the $120 price increase adds up, just 50 of them costs an extra $6000 when going from the 9th gen to the 10th.

[@Mike918]

Except that they keep selling the 9th gen for like $100 less, there is literally no target market for this thing.

[@koetter_boater]

It's a good review, well put together visually and mostly good audio, I think you guys put together a nice informative video here. It's just a shame it's 2 months late as most of the people who would buy the lowest tier ipad and would benefit from the information here already bought one for the holiday season. But it's still a good thing at any time to point out that the cheapest version of something often isn't worth it's price, and most of the features people really want to use are on the mid tier options instead (ie. the air in this case)

[@ryanawol77]

Wait, did Apple oversaturate the Apple market with their own device causing fragmentation? This is just hilarious! I do hope that they figure it out soon though.

[@zulhilminajmi8560]

This is not the latest Apple iPad, but it is faster than I thought. It has a great screen and it holds a charge pretty well kzbin.infoUgkxhcEDB3r-OJ3_X5hQzr7k1ZofTQy1ao_U . I was concerned that it would not be powerful enough because I have several older iPads that are slow and cannot update to the latest software. But this 10th Gen has the speed and power. I do not use it for video editing, so having an M2 processor is not necessary for me. This iPad model has an A14 processor. So far so good. Glad I bought it. It helps having a larger screen compared to my Apple phone.

[@MrFritz123ification]

It would be cool, if you could discuss the camera bump on tablets as well? Especially with the cheaper models that will be used without a case, it is really annoying when trying to write with the Apple Pencil because you can not lay it flat on the table.

[@techmaester]

Camera bump not a problem for me but the quality of photo and video clips from the camera on iPad is lacking compared to iPhone.

[@michealpersicko9531]

​@@techmaester The camera on iPads and tablets in general have always been shit compared to phones. Most people never use them so idk why they're even there to begin with

[@alessioavezzano]

I got this model for zoom calls, a bit of writing, netflix and reading comic books. I do enjoy the detachable keyboard and am pretty happy with it overall. If XDR came to the smaller pro models in the future I would consider upgrading.

[@RevoltDynasty]

I love the production quality of Mac Address videos. You’re all doing a great job. Keep it up.

[@atthelord]

Man your videos are so enjoyable! I really like the aesthetic, the background music, the entire vibe. The voice over is crisp, audio levels are well monitored.Just wish you uploaded more videos. You're a great presenter and make some great points as well. Edit: off topic, im still using my iPad Pro 12.9 from 2018. Still great for notes, media consumption and everyday tasks. Really don't see any reason to upgrade, let alone buy this weird base one.

[@zyphbehr]

So I have to say, I would agree that Apple seems to be cutting corners on some thing and then forgetting on others. I ended up going with the iPad Air 2022 with the M1 Chip. Gives me a lot more time before upgrading and can get through games and other processing so quickly. I ended up getting the Logitech Combo Case for it, which gave me a great keyboard (with function keys), a trackpad (which I found i used a lot more) and protects my iPad. Plus I could just keep using the Logitech Crayon I had previously on my basic iPad previously. Which is still funny that Apple doesn’t say that that the Crayon (Which requires no connection to “Pair” it like the original Pencil did), DOES still work on these devices. I don’t get all the features of the Pencil, but it’s so much more durable and lets me make notes and even basic drawing as well. “Hello Freeform, you’re so much more useful to make notes with this Crayon!”

[@transitengineer]

Just received my Logitech Combo Case this week and, I love it. It makes my basic iPad 9th generation work like a laptop (smile...smile).

[@Jimmyfly215]

The crazy part about it is the killer sales their base iPad once had and now they won't. I have no idea who's idea this iPad was at apple but they probably need to get fired lol

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

Whose and not who’s…. Grammar police…

[@transitengineer]

Well, it appears what, they wanted to do, was to make this version drive people to pass right over it and, instead elect to buy their older basic iPad 9th generation. Automobile companies do this, when they have a lot of last year's model frames still remaining. The big question is, what will Apple, Inc. do once they run out of their older 9th generation units to sell (smile ... smile).

[@itnotme6700]

Now that I think about it, maybe that's why they kept the 9th gen around, they're smarter than they seem

[@transitengineer]

@@itnotme6700 Well there are a lot of things that, we could say about Mr. Tim Cook but, not knowing how to make money for Apple, Inc. is not one of them. For example, Apple staff says ... we want to start selling a new larger "mac mini" called the "Mac Studio". So, Tim Cook says, well to make sure professionals buy these units, we will at the same time stop selling any of our 27-inch iMac models and also, add in an over priced matching monitor called the "Studio Display" and then, laugh all the way to the bank (smile...smile).

[@transitengineer]

@Kanaba Nakamura Fully agree and, I have been saying for decades that, you either "play Apple, Inc.'s game ... or make them play your game". With my basic iPad 9th generation it works with a pair of my old wired headphones, works with a lighting cable Logitech keyboard (no need for blue-tooth pairing), works with my already owned Apple first generation pencil, works with my already owned lighting to USB Camera Adapter, and lighting to SD Card Reader. Plus it supports the current version of iPad OS and Apple's "center stage" function (smile...smile).

[@Naviss]

Had to upgrade my old base model iPad from 2017. Loved that thing, But it slowly lacked more and more features I wanted. Went all out on the iPad Pro this time. Sadly I waited till the M2, hoping a mini LED screen would come to the 11 inch. So not thrilled I didn’t get many new features for the price. However I do love the iPad, and bought the Apple Magic Keyboard to go with it, as well as the Pencil. The keyboard is over priced, But really adds a lot to the iPad experience. Just sucks no function keys. And I also fell in love with the pencil. Didn’t think I’d ever use it. But I do all the time. Unless you need that tablet mobility or touchscreen / pencil, The MacBook Air is cheaper than my full setup (MSRP), and far more features.

[@ekauq2000]

Definitely a step back with using the first gen Apple Pencil, it then leans you into the old practices of using that pencil, like making sure it’s always charged.

[@dmug]

Glad to see this channel keep picking up more subscribers. It's great that Mac Address isn't just LMG but Mac. As always, I like the vibe of these.

[@trapical]

8:20 Hey! 2017 iPad Pro fan! I've had mine for half a decade and it does EVERYTHING super effectively. The battery still lasts a good 4-5 hours too, and I've been daily driving it for well over a thousand hours at this point. I keep seeing newer and newer iPads come out, but like, mine already can do everything I need, so...

[@itsonepixel]

I bought the 9th gen a year ago, and I was blown away by the quality and speed of such a cheap device. It is honestly more than capable of doing everything I want to do and beyond. I would recommend it for everyone, and I am certain that you won't be disappointed with it at all. 9/10 tablet.

[@whatdoyouexactlymeanbyhandle]

Same! I have the same iPad and it is working great!

[@NoChillMan]

I bought a 9th gen iPad last year and I love it. At $329 (cheaper after applying a few Best Buy rewards coupons) I figured it was a good 1st iOS device for someone coming from android. The design might be a bit dated, but with a screen that size I really don't mind the "forehead" and "chin" bezels. Plus I liked that it has a home button. My only complaint would be the speakers, and even that doesn't really bother me since I use airpods most of the time anyway. It's a really good "I woke up early on a Saturday/Sunday and I want to watch a youtube video in bed until I fall back asleep" device.

[@adrevanderwesthuizen7262]

Same. It's more powerful than any Android tablet in its price range.

[@galen_green]

500K subs! This channel is really figuring out what it wants to be and its an amazing addition to LTT, Well done!

[@jaegan438]

Perfectly summed up. I'm still thinking about buying an iPad, but now I'm holding off to see if they fix the lower end model next go around.

[@the_wiki9408]

Since 64GB really is not enough anymore, the real price is $599 because you have to step up to 256GB. And before Christmas a few places were selling new iPad Pro M1 128GB for $550. That's what I picked up.

[@itsonepixel]

Honestly 64gb is more than enough if you aren't using the ipad as a hard drive for photos and videos.

[@TheComputerm746]

@@itsonepixel correct not to mention you can pay iCloud storage for hardly no money

[@megsley]

@@itsonepixel right like wtf is this person using their iPad for 😂

[@transitengineer]

While, I have seen a lot of other You Tube reviews about Apple's new basic iPad 10th generation. As always, yours was truly special and a joy to watch. For the past several years, I have only been recommending users buy either an iPad Air or the basic iPad 9th generation. The day the iPad 10th generation was introduced, I went home and ordered on Apple's Veteran web site (saving 10 percent on the price) a maxed out version of the iPad 9th generation with 256GB of memory and the cell data option. Why? Because, it is an excellent replacement for my older basic iPad 6th generation, it still has a home button, a headphone jack, supports Apple's "center stage" function, works with my already owned 1st generation pencil, and operates perfectly with all of my lighting adapters. In addition, as for as Apple's new iPad 10th generation "Keyboard Folio" this week, I just received my Logitech Combo Touch which, I prefer and its keyboard has special function keys plus they are also "back lit" for working in low light (smile ... smile).

[@danabell2709]

I'm still clinging to my 6th gen iPad entry level. The battery's charge doesn't last quite as long as it used to. It was looking to upgrade when the 10th gen came out but I was unimpressed with the new value proposition. I expect I'll end up with a refurbished Air but haven't quite talked myself into pulling the trigger.

[@rhylin26]

3:13 THANK YOU!!! As someone who used to sell them, it frustrates me when reviews conveniently leave out the coupler when talking about the pencil!

[@deavo74]

You explain this well, seems to be about 2 months late but still well done.

[@EdTheShed1]

“The 1st gen Apple Pencil from the Obama era”😂 2:23

[@stephenkelly8312]

Happy haircut! I got a refurbished iPad mini 4 from best buy, and it’s great for what I want to use it for. I mostly want a decent screen for KZbin videos and a paperback size form factor for reading kindle books. Why not get a cheap kindle fire? I have one, and it’s terrible. It’s so slow that even this 7 year old iPad feels zippy by comparison, and it’s battery life is laughable. Love my refurbished iPad!

[@SaveTheInsects_Team]

I’m glad you were released a new video! I always love them!

[@m1lk3yy]

I have an Air with USB-C and I think it's probably the best iPad to suit my needs, I use it quite a bit. Only thing I wish I had done was get more than 64GB of storage... Love the video and the format! Keep up the great work :D

[@Hydroshott]

6:38 audio bug, happens to the best of us it's okay

[@hippopilot6750]

One benefit of the non-laminated display is that it's less costly to replace in case of a break since there's less a chance it's broken through to the touch sensor and actual display parts and it's just the glass on top.

[@Kubinsky44]

500k Subs Congrats

[@tasosjw]

It is a great choice if you come from Gen 7 or older. You don’t have to buy a new pencil so the price increase doesn’t really count for you. You get a massive boost in performance with its SoC, double the storage, bigger screen, double ram, a new design, gorgeous colours, an outstanding front facing camera, a better rear camera and more. If all these don’t sound like a good deal, I don’t know what does.

[@mihaidragnea9785]

No one said the 10th gen isn't a good product, but it doesn't exist in a vacuum. On its own it might be a better deal but as it was explained in the video, there are better options.

[@transitengineer]

You make several excellent points. For myself, it really comes down to the design do you prefer the older classic look (like myself) then pick-up the basic iPad 9th generation. However, if you prefer the newer more modern design then buy the iPad Air (smile...smile).

[@tasosjw]

@@mihaidragnea9785 as I explained in my comment the better options cost more specifically because you have to buy a new Pencil.

[@toddhumphrey7961]

Watching this from my iPad 9th gen (which does everything I need). The 10th gen just seems like a product they build spare parts and a tiny bit innovation.

[@thesagarmahapatra]

the 7th, 8th and 9th gen iPads are all you need as a tablet. Rest is either overkill or just plain bad. Rather get a Macbook Air if you're spending $1k on an iPad.

[@PaulGrayUK]

I was wondering what to watch and tada, love the presentation style, it engages with the viewer in a way that engages thru most ADHD periods. Or as in the early TV days, channel hopping and finding something that you not only watch but all the way thru in one go.

[@Arcticstar0]

I love my iPad Air. I use the Pencil for basically everything. Though I think unoptimised apps kill the battery with the wireless usage. I bought my mum a F-F lightning adapter because her pencil charging on her older iPad freaked me out. I’ve already needed to replace my pencil from dropping it too many times. I didn’t want to replace her’s by just existing near it.

[@stratonarrow]

To be honest I was amazed you didn’t comment on this disaster of a product in the first couple of weeks after it was released, but holy cow was the wait worth it! So much comedy in here.

[@JoseCastro-nj5bs]

Jonathan feelings for Apple are directly proportional to how long is his hair 💀

[@Toobst8ker]

I love the surprise at the end.. welcome to short cut world

[@SadlyBest]

I respect the openness! Such awesome reporting!

[@mikeb.4597]

I had an iPad 6th Gen that I was ready to part ways with, and waited for the 10th. Saw the press release and I was hyped! Then I saw the price… / Then after more research, I saw all the downfalls… In the end I had to choose between the 9th gen, Air 4, and ended up going with an iPad mini that was on sale. 😂

[@dhilsiva]

You made a good choice.

[@mickysmithers]

This video could not have come at a better time. My fiancé and I need to replace both our iPads. Mine is a 2017 Pro with a bad battery, and so I’ve been back and forth on the cost/benefit of upgrading or just replacing the battery. I’ll be taking a look at the refurbished store.

[@ummtulip]

Maybe 2018 ipad pro or 4th gen ipad air?

[@mickysmithers]

@@ummtulip That's what I'm thinking. It would be nice if Apple offered their financing on refurbished, but I'm not seeing the option.

[@DaveAdams222]

I have a 2020 iPad Pro 12.9 . . . that thing is an INSANE powerhouse and I can't possibly see myself needing to jump into the newer model of that (or any iPad) any time soon. As a photographer and retro gamer, this iPad Pro does MORE than I need from it in any capacity.

[@jierenzheng7670]

I was considering about buying the 10th Gen but thankfully I saw your video, now I might look at the older iPad 9th Gen or the old iPad Air then. Thanks!

[@BuddhaAfterDark]

I love Mac Address, as a former apple employee this makes me laugh like we used to in the back room away from the customers and management :p

[@MentosExistsLol]

I honestly think that the fact that 10th gen iPad doesn't support Apple Pencil 2nd gen is a deal breaker, that's why I got the M1 iPad Air instead of the iPad 10th gen other then oc the performance

[@BusterDarcy]

I bought a corvette instead of a civic because of the cup holders. That and the performance I guess.

[@mihaidragnea9785]

@@BusterDarcyYou underestimate how important the apple pen gen 2 is, especially for people who buy their first ipad and don't have pen 1 and adaptors. For me, and I assume other people interested in art and note taking, is the one thing keeping me using an ipad and not a surface or another alternative. Its pretty much the best pen on any digital drawing device.

[@BusterDarcy]

@@mihaidragnea9785 cool if it’s that important to you maybe don’t expect to have the best possible experience with it from the entry level iPad.

[@CreativeMindsAudio]

I have been using an ipad pro 2nd gen forever. battery is still pretty good though. I use it every night and morning to watch stuff in bed. which is funny because i got it for a completely different purpose, which i have no use for since I moved from an apartment to a bedroom in a house. i'm glad i'm still getting a ton of use out of it though! I don't see how any of the new specs will change my life when this ipad does everything i need it to. I'll probably upgrade when it dies though .

[@maxiemianoday9969]

Needed this review great job 👏

[@alanlipon]

Keep it up! This is EXACTLY what we need to hear about. The 4 models is driving me bonkers. With an unclear price model when you throw in the refurbrished store.

[@martinero17]

I really like mac address videos, they are really refreshing compared to other LMG channels! Keep on the great work :)

[@jazzmickge1]

My wife is still running the 5th Gen iPad Air and it's still running strong. Plenty of power to run the latest Apps, doesn't have any battery issues (Yet) and has the headphone jack too. We did have an issue with charging once, we thought it was the port because we swapped out a few cables with no result. But after more investigation, it turned out to be the power plug itself and not the iPad at all. There's many years left in my wifes iPad yet 😁

[@autumnrose_tv]

I was really hoping that the iPad 10 would get Apple Pencil 2 support and laminated display to save me some money, but it looks like I’ll have to go for the one of the air or pro models, but probably the 12.9” pro as I can use it as a note taking device and laptop when needed. I may not need the power of the M2 chip, but the larger surface area is appreciated

[@aprappl]

i rlly recommend you to go and watch 11 and 12.9 inch by yourself irl and compare them, if u have so opportunity, as i was quite surprised with the surface area of mine 9th gen, if is rlly enough to make any notes, even with the split view 🙂

[@uniworkhorse]

The fact they removed the headphone jack from ipads... is crazy to me. Tons of people use ipads for the plethora of mobile music apps.

[@filbao8113]

U could use a lightning earphone adapter

[@ThevenimX]

I recently started working on Best Buy and our Apple experts went into great lengths being very helpful explaining each of the differences with each but went even FURTHER into great lengths about the frustrations on how dumb it is that they gave the iPad 10 type C while just making everything more confusing and expensive rather than just lightning and save everyone the hassle

[@icetanker8062]

My friend actually bought one of these things to upgrade from a 7 year old pro as that one stopped charging. She already owned a first gen pencil so she decided to get the 10th gen because then she wouldn't need to get a new pencil and could save some money ontop of the already lower price then a brand new air would be. Her biggest mistake was going into a physical apple store imo, that way she got talked into a 10th gen instead of a referb air 4th gen + a second gen pencil for only £20 more then what she paid for a new 10th gen.

[@SimonBauer7]

i think the first gen pencil can actually work with the newer 2nd pencil compatible ipads but you need a third party app to pair it. once paired it behaves just like on a first gen pencil compatible one.

[@vacantcrow]

I'm so glad I got the 9th generation instead of a 10th! I thought I might've chosen wrong, but seeing this as an artist, I'm glad I went with the 9th one... this was my first ever apple product and i spent days making cons and pros over the two, yet no website mentioned the changes shown in this video 😓

[@gsus3918]

I hate the ipad situation. I got the M1 12.9 and I feel like it doesn't do anything. Or rather it CANT do anything, as there isn't any software that are killer apps.

[@DankAlien2580]

What do you use your ipad for though?

[@ironbolt2678]

What exactly do you expect it to do? Or perhaps a more appropriate question: Why did you buy a device without having a use for it?

[@DankAlien2580]

@@ironbolt2678 exactly

[@SayAhh]

2:43 5 seconds of charging really gives you 15 minutes of use?

[@Kooooooooooooooooooooooooooooa]

Yes

[@ALeoHughes]

Love these videos Jonathan :)

[@shivannnn]

I’m still rocking a 2017 pro. I also use my old assed Air 2. They both hold up well and the air 2 actually is used to run Auria for recording and mixing audio

[@ffturbo]

Where is buzz cut Johnathan?

[@vincepopo7497]

Solid video, I jumped into the comments strictly for hairstyle discussion lol

[@dishonoured]

iPads have been going downhill… But I still bought the iPad Air 5

[@utubekullanicisi]

They haven't been going downhill, they've been stagnating... until iPadOS 16 came out in June 2022, which made it *better*. When the iPad Pro gets the horizontally placed camera and fn keys, I think we'll see a lot of KZbinrs revert back to the idea of the iPad being a computer replacement again.

[@dishonoured]

@@utubekullanicisi ipados 16 is a step in the right direction, they still need to improve stage manager. I am actually using an external monitor right now!

[@e-11]

It doesn’t make a lot of sense to me either, mostly because the base iPad is often used by students who work with the Apple Pencil everyday. I think in this situation the dongle and the cable to charge and connect the Pencil is really annoying.

[@rudramewada7832]

I currently have the 8th gen IPad with Apple Pencil which I got 2 years back! I got it as my first iPad and to start art now as I have grown with my art the iPad is not capable enough I was excited for the iPad Pro but it is not a major upgrade from last year ! And I was excited on seeing the 10th gen but as I got to know more about it it didn’t make sense ! It’s doesn’t have a proper place in apples lineup

[@jonie1852]

why buy apple in the first place?

[@bach7830]

I am still using my 2020 iPad Pro in 2023 and it still runs like a beast. Super helpful for school and music. And even tho the battery is starting to die, I would totally recommend it in the refurbished store.

[@Aepek]

I charge my Apple Pencil gen 1 with the iPad charger and cable that came in box; as my gen 1 Apple Pencil came w/ a dongle to adapt to the lightning charging cable. Imo, so much easier and quicker to plug Pencil into wall charger to fully charge my Apple Pencil in “about” 25 mins or so; and doesn’t look “weird” sticking out of charge port of my iPad either. Want to know of charged when in wall charger dongle, not an issue as iPad keeps track of Pencil battery even when your 25 ft away in garage and Pencil is charging in my room on nightstand plugged into my wall. Have never charged gen 1 Pencil any other way; why else did the Apple Pencil Gen 1 come w/ the lightning cable charging adapter dongle in the Apple Pencil box, b/c they figured you’d charge it in the wall charger from the iPad charger and cable that iPad came with, and like said, also takes half the time to charge or even less w/ wall charger then using iPad charge port (least from my experience over the years). Sadly, have just now noticed that my gen 1 pencil has started to have battery issues. Pencil released in 11/2015 and I got Xmas of 2016 w/ my first ever iPad, awesome. But not after it’s fully charged I’m getting 60% as my “full charge “, instead of the 100% it’s supposed to be. That said it’s a 8 year old device and IS ACTUALLY GREAT for the age. If only I still had AppleCare on it, would be easy and cheap” fix. But apple didn’t offer monthly AppleCare subscriptions back than, fyi, a new service THATS WLRTH IT AND SO SO AWESOME!. Highly recommend over the norm standard 2 year AppleCare. Cheers✌🏻

[@lordapophis93]

My first iPad was the 9th gen and I love it! I ended up giving it to my son - but I now have the iPad Air 5th gen which I like! But I think the storage at base model is way to low. My old iPad had way more space but I wasnt trying to spend more money. These iPad 10 gens are weird man

[@housepianist]

I have a year old 9th gen iPad. It's still a fantastic device and does everything I need it to do. However, I would like to have a bigger screen and USB C is a really nice thing to have so I’m considering a refurb. They’re some good options out there.

[@derkaiser9881]

Those refurbed pro models are such a tempting offer. I'm in the same boat.

[@transitengineer]

Yes, please go for the iPad Air.

[@JoshDoingLinux]

I still use and feel no need to upgrade my 2018 iPad Pro? First iPad to do second gen pencil, idk what year it is

[@thejanasilva2525]

The only reason i think they have the dongle for the apple pencil is just to manipulate people into thinking how much of a hassle it would be to switch on to usb-c. Thats they only the first gen pencil is supported and why the base ipad now got usb-c.

[@kampfkeks6619]

I bought a refurbished iPad Pro 2021 for 700€ and I think it was an amazing choice. I was going to go for the 2018 version but I was a little scared how long it will still be supported. Also it was not more than 50€ more.

[@ericbauer4559]

Funny timing with this video. I just ordered a refurbished 4th gen air yesterday. I really didnt want to spend a whole lot on a replacement for my aging mini 4 but couldnt bring myself to cheap out on a 9th gen and the 10th gen just didnt seem worth the extra cost.

[@fwmtb]

Does the USB-C to Apple Pencil Adapter work to connect lighting earpods to an iPad or Mac?

[@sp3lllz]

I had an air 2 for years it honestly fulfilled all my needs from an iPad but when apple dropped support I bought a 12.9 M1 Pro with 5G because my philosophy was that if I buy the best one they make it will last me maybe 8 or 9 years before I need to upgrade again since 99% of the time it’s just used for KZbin/Netflix and writing blog posts or my book. I bought the Logitech keyboard to go with it for writing too so I have no need to upgrade again for a long time

[@blank_line]

Samsung galaxy tab user here. The camera on s7 plus and s6 lite (Only mention them, because I only have owned these 2 versions) is also on horizontal side, but they can still hold the spen on that side. Surely, spen doesn't charge from that side, only from the back. But you don't even need to charge it ever to use it

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[@b_daly]

Love my 9th gen iPad. It's perfect for me to use while teaching my classes and does everything I need it to phenomenally. I just couldn't justify even paying for a refurbished as none even touched the 9th gen in price for the performance I need.

[@stu729]

I use the pencil a lot between journaling and D&D note taking. I'm fine with my older 2019 iPad Air, but if I was in the market for something to replace it with, it would *not* be this one.

[@CosmoBlox1358]

The usb c Pencil pretty much fixes the Pencil problem. You still need a cable but you don’t need dongles and you can use the cable that came with the iPad. It even magnetically attaches to the side of the iPad! However, there is no pressure sensitivity.

[@gohck1649]

Thank you thank you thank you. I expect alot........... of people didn't know about compatibility issues.

[@dustybikes86]

after looking at Ipads for the last year, i found myself wanting a little more. I'm an artist and need a good pen tablet but i'm also a 3d modeler and coder, i want to run full desktop apps, so i bought a Samsung Galaxy Book 360 for the same price as a macbook air. It has an 12th gen i7, it has an up-gradable ssd, an Oled display, it has better I/O, it runs windows so i can run any program i want, and samsung licenses Wacom's pen technology which means i can use a wacom one stylus and it draws just as well if not better then the Ipad pro. I would have bought an M2 Ipad pro if it could run software meant for Mac OS but it can't. Since i went with the galaxy book, in a few months when i upgrade from my Iphone 13 pro i will be switching to a samsung...

[@psschroe42]

Camera placement has never been an issue. Most of the “video” meetings we are audio only.

[@eti1687]

really good video, seems clear inflation is hitting apple as much as the rest of us lol. BTW music mix seems a bit much at times (around 6 minutes in), it felt like something was playing in another tab on accident and needed turning off.

[@karakatowTV]

It's not that I don’t use my Apple Pencil, I just barely use it but I still use it. Still handy to take a screenshot and doodle (or sign documents) on it every now and again. Just like how I used my old Samsung Galaxy Note 4 before I got my iPad. I've tried to draw with it, but I found that the gestures (double tap to..., two finger taps to..., etc) are not as natural than the pencil on a screen thing. Was looking forward to buy a newly released non-pro/air iPad. But then they made these half-assed changes that somehow madef me think to get a gen-9 iPad with big storage instead.

[@HwL01]

They could’ve make the 2nd gen pencil connector on the left side since the speaker doesn’t take up the whole length.

[@AdamLord]

that surprise! happy new year!

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[@loveArtnotFood]

Great video! Great info!

[@Antejolt]

My dad got the 10th gen ipad for $50 off on Best Buy, so a $70 difference from the refurb ipad air is a bit more worth it. Plus, he can get that monthly payment financing at Best Buy unlike Apple when it comes to their refurb stuff. My parents also video chat a lot and refuse to use headphones so the camera placement and landscape speakers is great.

[@avocadopictures9706]

A bit random, but how can i make my iPad Pro work with an external display like at 4:07 ? I remember the support was supposed to be added later, but i'm still not getting anything on my 27" Dell when connecting through an HDMI to USB C adapter (M1 model with the latest OS version). Tried an iPad Mini with the same adapter and it worked as a mirror screen at least (with wrong aspect ratio), so i assume it's not an adapter issue.

[@bravesonly]

I appreciate the video! But I would also love a mention a price hike outside of America continent. In EU it was 380 to 550 EUR. Way too much for such a device.

[@ElderlyAnteater]

love your mazda2 review bro

[@Verkehrskegel.87]

So.. which Mini Version would you recommend for easy content consuming,reading, email & web? No editting or anything else

[@macaddress]

You're probably best going with the new design iPad Mini at this point. It's a bit dear in price, but it's much nicer and should last you if you buy a Pencil.