I HATE The NEW 2024 Toyota LandCruiser Prado 250 & HERE'S WHY! // DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!

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In today's video, I will be giving you my thoughts on the new Toyota LandCruiser Prado 250 and why you might want to buy a Prado 150 before it's too late. The base price of $85,000 with a lot of optional extras at this price is a big problem. The same amount of power and wheel placement issues will be discussed in this video alongside my thoughts on the styling of this new Prado.
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Keywords: Toyota, Prado 250, toyota landcruiser, truck, 4wd, 4x4, overlanding, touring, supertourer.
Time stamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:17 Global Chassis Issue = Expensive
3:34 Engine is Underpowered
7:20 Transmission Potential issues
8:26 Styling
13:15 Spare Wheel Issue
15:28 New and Old Features
21:47 New Screens
23:37 Summary and Final Thoughts
Some information from this video has been sourced from carexpert.com.au and all photos and videos used in this video are mine unless credited otherwise.

[@DJ-lu3bi]

Great desktop review. I’m facing the same dilemma. Should I fit UVP to my UK spec 150 basic stock model or wait for the new 250. Two things occurs to me about the design: 18” wheels - why would you fit those to an off-road vehicle Position of the H/L switch- I just know you’ll catch it with something when you don’t intend to.

[@NorthOz]

Very true. Could bump it there for sure. Thanks for watching and subscribing. We will discuss this more for sure

[@abstragic4216]

Styling tastes are definitely a personal thing. I think this is the best looking 4WD Toyota ever! My own personal dislike is touch screens, less the better. Agreed that 150KW and 500NM torque are plenty. The V8 79 series has less torque. The long range fuel tank option has been a major selling point with Prados past, will be bad for business if they abandon it. Agreed that a front locker standard would've been huge. The GWM Tank has it! I'm about to take delivery of a Fortuner, and am seriously considering risking warrantee problems with an ARB front locker from new.

[@NorthOz]

Spot on. The fortuners are fantastic but I couldn’t see myself spending $20k more for a prado over the crusade. The gwm is an interesting mention but it will take another decade for people to trust the brand like Kia and Hyundai

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Toyora warranty isn't long anyway so you'll be able to get the ARB airlocker soon anyway.

[@JoshHodgman]

I like the styling and if anything I think they should bring back the fj cruiser! I wanted an fj for so long but just wasn’t ideal not being able to have the rear windows come down or proper aircon in the back! That just made it hard in the Aussie summer taking our dog anywhere. The prado worked well with the roof aircon vents.

[@NorthOz]

Definitely bring back the fj! The reason I like the FJ is simplicity which made it have retro appeal. Simple interior and petrol engine made it indestructible. A complicated diesel turbo and hybrid with screens everywhere is not retro. If we had a basic version of this for $20k cheaper I’d be on board as that is what the fj was going for

[@chrisx5127]

What about an FJ truck?

[@2157AF]

Thinking from Toyotas view, this vehicle will probably over the next 12 years get more hybrid options. The front will be facelifted 2 times in those next few years. The other question is what will they do with fortuners? keep the existing model for a few more years as the cheaper option? Anyway, as a 50 year old, i like the styling, and i could see myself driving this to the supermarket :)

[@NorthOz]

Good question about the fortuner. Next to the Prado now it’s a great option but next to the new Prado it will be a dinosaur. Hopefully they have some fun with the fortuner and make a basic version of the 250 without all of the extras 👍

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

me going to the desert calif/ Nevada to camp out of the back

[@marklaurendet1861]

Agree with a lot of your concerns. Interesting that they show a lot of dust in the promo videos. Wonder if they have upgraded the air filter box. Hope the second row seats do not tumble which reduces space for camping gear. Also hope we get a dual tank model

[@NorthOz]

Very true. I wonder if they put the alternator and intake low again too

[@Pipeburn]

This looks so good. Toyota has created a winner here.. The only problem will be the long wait to get one.

[@jonathanong4583]

And the toyota tax. Former toyota fanboy here but lately their products have been way overpriced.

[@NorthOz]

True. We will be lucky to see one next year 👍

[@johnmeerabux5224]

And the lack of fuel capacity. Looks like the lowest fuel capacity of any generation Prado with wheel placed underneath 😅. Can’t replace the 150 with this!

[@nbutler5741]

Thanks for the post. With the 48v battery in the floor of the boot (which is raised to allow for it), how would you get a drawer system in? This is also why there is no third row seat version, because the batteries take that space. Pretty sure they can’t put the wheel on the back with a top hinged door.

[@NorthOz]

Agree with the rear door. Also, the battery bank would likely go in the floor which present problems when off-roading but it also will make modifying for drawers, stripped interior layouts for beds etc a lot more difficult

[@nbutler5741]

@@NorthOz I think it was the US 250 I saw with the batteries in the back, but that was the 2.4 petrol full hybrid, so the batteries for the mild hybrid we get here will likely take up a lot less space. Currently trying to determine whether to terminate 2023 Prado order for 2024 model. I’ve got the current GX on order (didn’t want 3rd row). Dealer reckons the new GX will add about $7 to $8k. The one thing I don’t like about the current model is the barn door on the back. Being a bushwalker I like to have somewhere to get changed with a little protection from the elements and a rear door hinged at the top provides that and just makes the whole boot space more usable.

[@richardwalsh5570]

My 1999 Discovery 2 had disconnect sway bars. System called Ace. This was awesome on and off road. Landrover were so far ahead of others with this.

[@NorthOz]

Exactly! Toyota is a bit late to the party but better late than never 🤔

[@DJ-lu3bi]

Disco 2 was my best 4x4. Lived ACE and air suspension

[@michaeldargan3163]

How does that differ from KDSS?

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

I think it's high time the Lexus GX gets a diesel. It already has a detuned 3.4L petrol from the 300 so why not give it a detuned 3.3L diesel from the 300. That would be great segmentation and a Lexus GX would still be cheaper than a 300 and more importantly, actually available.

[@NorthOz]

Good thoughts. Personally, I don’t think this will happen unfortunately. Toyota have made it pretty clear they want to keep their 300 seperate to all other models at this point in the driveline department

[@pietrobosco1216]

Hi, I personally like the look of this J250. Does anyone said something about a 3 doors version? Will it be possible on that chassis?

[@NorthOz]

Hi mate! Haven’t heard about a 3 door version. Given the global platform, there’s little to no chance of a different version. They’ll all be the same now

[@sounds_like_pain3345]

Love the new look especially with the FJ looking version, white roof and round headlights. But yeh would’ve been awesome if they had a V6 turbo diesel, bit of a bummer.

[@NorthOz]

The look will probably grow on me but the lack of features over the Prado 150 is a let down. I won’t be buying one of these. Would you buy it? Thanks for watching and subscribing

[@southernsandgroper3423]

Let’s be honest, the proposed hybrid engine version is for all the soccer mums for private school drop-offs and pick-ups, but likely unsuitable for heavy off-road use (waterboarding, towing, etc). There was a lot of new Prado hype and media release about a month ago, then it seems as though there has been silence since!

[@NorthOz]

So true. If they beefed up the engine we’d have something to talk about that’s for sure. Really, it’s just another suv now that has the same features as the 150

[@NZBrayden]

I can handle the styling (kind of), and for majority of my use case could probably handle not having a long range tank, but what I don’t get is what is the point of all the extra cost, complexity and additional parts to fail of a mild hybrid for at best 10% improvement in fuel economy 🤷🏼‍♂️. Glad I was able to get the current shape with my new prado coming in September. Changing from a Hilux.

[@NorthOz]

Spot on mate. My thoughts exactly!

[@oggyoggy1299]

My 150 arrives in about a month. It’s on a ship. Glad I went with it. It may be old in style externally but it almost looks like luxury compared to the new model. I also love the look of he new model - the one with round headlights, but I don’t think we’re getting it in Australia. The sweetener was i got a Kakadu for $88k drive away.

[@NorthOz]

You are on a good wicket there. The 250 doesn’t offer enough over the current model to justify the price. The round headlights are nice! But doubt we’ll get that here. After barwork the front section will be completely covered anyway. What colour did you get?

[@oggyoggy1299]

@@NorthOz I think so too. And I think I can sell it for what I paid for it if need be. I got the ubiquitous Graphite 😎 My last 2 cars have been white, which i enjoyed, but now time for something different.

[@MikeyyPham]

88k for a Kakadu is a steal, congrats. About the design the 150 is more low key, for mature person, classic while the 250 looks sporty and for young kiddo lol

[@Wednesdayat11]

How did you get a kakadu for 88k

[@michaeldargan3163]

What state are you in to get a Kakadu for that money? I’ll echo another comment, that is a steal.

[@robwilson7654]

I pick up on two things you said-the current Prado has enough torque, and the fuel price is going up, and going down..actually is on a long term upward trajectory. I have had several Prados, and 70 series, and more recently was a 76 V8 owner. I had to sell it because my wife flatly refused to travel in any longer because of the hard ride. So back to Prado, 2.8l 4 cylinder (initially very concerned...) but once I had settled in and done some sand with the caravan behind, I was very surprised. Especially at fill up points. My Prado is running at 35% lower fuel usage than the 76 traveling at a higher speed. So for me, the power and torque are 'enough', and are absolutely enough if I continue to get this kind of fuel consumption. Even bigger tank capacity (yet to be seen on the new one) than the 76 is a bonus. The killer for me is going to be having a spare wheel (please tell me it won't be a space saver!) hanging down underneath. Its a show stopper for me unless the ground clearance is higher. We wait and see.

[@NorthOz]

All true points and we have found similar in our towing travels. The Prado toes exceptionally and with an average of around 14L/100km. Hard to beat

[@CM303898]

Thanks for your views, Mark. BLUF: my wife has a new Everest Platinum, and I have a new Ranger Raptor. She came from a previous Everest. I came from a 12 year old Subaru Impreza WRX. When Ford announced the “Next Gen” Ranger in November 2021, we knew the Everest would have the same powertrains, and knowing Ford would be dropping a V6 into their lineup to go up against Hilux and Prado made me say that Ford had really gone for the jugular of Toyota, since Toyota didn’t have a smaller V6 diesel than the 3.3L Twin Turbo, or a more powerful 4cyl than the 2.8L. I posited that maybe Toyota would detune the 3.3L for Prado, or lop a turbo off, but couldn’t see then developing an entirely new motor as the global market trends towards ending internal combustion. When the next gen Tacoma was announced in May, that really threw me. It basically told me that the next Hilux won’t get better than a 2.4L Petrol hybrid; certainly nothing close to challenge the Ford Ranger Raptor. Back in July the engine specs for Prado were leaked showing only the 2.8L diesel, the ancient and gutless 2.7L petrol, or the 2.4L petrol hybrid - all which killed the enthusiasm for the 3.5L TT petrol that the next gen Lexus GX will get, or for the 3.3L to appear in the Prado. The lineup really indicates to me, a somewhat “mugging” of Toyota buyers, because it feels like whilst Toyota probably rightly protected the LC300 from sales cannibalisation from Prado, it effectively says to prospective buyers that if you want 6 cylinders; you will need to fork out decent 6 figures for it. Digital instrument clusters, automatic only gearbox’s, etc, Toyota have been dragged into territory that risks the pillar of their entire market ring strategy. Everyone - journalists and online commentators - retorted about how they didn’t like the screen on the Ranger/Everest controlling functions because “when they’re on the trail, they don’t want to take their eyes off the track to tap through screens to change things”. Toyota took that as “ok; no screen buttons”, and I have counted no less than 57 buttons - 17 of which are multi-function, delivering no less than 84 functional touch buttons for new Prado buyers. Tell me how that won’t require buyers to take their eyes off the road to make sure they push the right one? Finally, if Hilux and Prado are on the new TGNA-F platform, and are nearly as big as the LC300, where does than leave room for the next Fortuner?

[@NorthOz]

I completely agree. The ford v6 was and still is going to be a big selling point over the Toyota line up (under the 300 of course). It’s why I’m not excited. Why would I “upgrade” to a hybrid version of what I already drive? Just for a different front end and a stiffer chassis. Makes no sense

[@howardnyika966]

Best comment i have read so far. I agree, Toyota is mugging their buyers and holding them at ransom. The LC300 is being protected for obvious reasons 17:31 but that means Prado and to an extent Fortuner will suffer, engine-wise. I also agree that the 2.7 litre petrol is ancient and gutless and why its still part of the engine line up beats me

[@cybermatstrikes7557]

given they have put the 2.8 auto in the 76 with a few new creature comforts, I wonder it you want a tyre on the back and a long-range tank, will they guide you to a 76 wagon?

[@NorthOz]

Oooo good point. A 76 wagon with the Prado engine would be a better option in that case. Great food for thought

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

I just realized another thing. In the 150 Prado you could get KDSS on the Kakadu spec but Toyota took that away from the 250 and only offers the front swaybar disconnect as consolation. You said your Prado had very bad handling. Im sure that wasn't a Kakadu. KDSS is famed for how good it is. Its successor, E-KDSS, is now only available on the absolute highest trim, the GX 550 "Overtrail" (what an embarrassing name) On the GX 460 it was available on every trim and that was just brilliant value with the amazing handling of KDSS and that glorious V8. Now it's just another core feature to segment for the big 300. Another example of how new Toyotas are worse than their predecessors due to profit maximization. Realizing that really gave me a sense of defeat, it's so sad. There are just too many Toyota yes-men fanboys out there who completely sweep aside the removed features and only repeat what the Toyota PR department is saying. If you truly love something and aren't blinded by that love you are not an enabler, you are critical with the intention of achieving something better.

[@hamzay23]

I’ve got a brand new Prado coming in 2 weeks I’m really confused to get it or not and wait for the new one 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@NorthOz]

Dude, definitely keep it. Especially if you like it. The new Prado will have more tech if you are into that. Historically the price of the older model increases when the the model comes in. Look at 200 series and Toyota’s pre dpf models

[@jamesm6341]

I sold my 2019 before a potential price drop and ordered the 2024 model.

[@jazumi7798]

I’m with you. MTS and crawl control. Don’t really use in my 3rd Gen. gas pedal and 4L always seems to do the trick.

[@NorthOz]

Yes sir!!

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

The first time I saw the J250 Prado the rear was the best looking part and it still is the only aspect I find goodlooking.

[@NorthOz]

True! But I find the current flatback Prado looks good anyway 🤷‍♂️

[@Rangeradam]

Great review Mark. Would love to hear your thoughts on the Hilux mild hybrid due here next year

[@NorthOz]

Thanks for the comment and sub. It will be interesting to see what we get but by the looks of things, it’s not going to be great

[@sebastianmessina31]

I have a 10 year old FJ Cruiser with 150000 on the clock and I think that there is Prado in my future - love the look with the white roof and the short overhangs.

[@NorthOz]

Interesting! Definitely up the alley of the retro/fj owner but I’m a bit disappointed it hasn’t come with more upgrades over the 150. I could see this would make a good upgrade of the FJ though

[@samhassall1926]

Can’t wait for this. Love it. Massive upgrade imo

[@NorthOz]

On paper I can’t see it but I hope driving it will tell a different story. Thanks for sharing and subscribing 🤙

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

in the U.S ; LC is 4cy lexus GX500 v6 our no such thing as a DEALers will mark them up $10-25k over msrp just let the rich kids and the dealers fight over them place a order for 2027

[@rajendrasahu4959]

Thanks you brother this information 🙏🙏🙂🙂

[@NorthOz]

My pleasure 👍

[@nicolasrioual8206]

Not too big, comfortable, fuel friendly, capable, affordable this is the perfect vehicle in my point of view.

[@NorthOz]

Unfortunately they haven’t changed much besides the look. You can get all that for $10-15k less with a base model 150. But if you like the look, then go for it 👍

[@michaelhermans4753]

The 2.8 is here to protect the 300 sales, if you want a serious towing rig you have to spend the $ The smaller engine also appeals the big markets outside Australia as fuel here is cheap compared to many other countries The pricing will definitely go up, once again to protect 300 sales, if you want a Toyota be prepared for the tax

[@NorthOz]

I agree and disagree. Definitely the 2.8 is to seperate from the 300 like you said but this is America’s flagship Landcruiser that comes with a 2.4L TD hybrid which should not be that small and in African countries they will most likely get the 2.7L again which like you said does make sense

[@Chasingthesun74]

@@NorthOz I thought the overseas 2.4L Turbo Hybrid was a Petrol not Diesel, producing 243kW and 630Nm.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

@@NorthOz the lc 250 is gas only n the U.S we have the Lexus LC300- LX600 @$100K U/S Toyota need s to go back to its roots on lot of models get rid of the luxury bling

[@wombatusmaximus1788]

I don;t mind the front aspect, but I'm committed to my 78 now. If they brought out a prado shorty with wheelback as an FJ replacement tho, as they have teased, wild horses couldn't keep me away

[@NorthOz]

Good choice regarding the 78. I just see these new vehicles as rehashes of the old tech and style. There’s not much new in these. It’s a shame

[@martinthompson5319]

Honest and well considered review. Nice one 👍

[@NorthOz]

Thanks mate!

[@ockiev]

I am a huge Landrover Discovery fan and currently owns 2 x Discovery 4 XS models (with coil springs). Landrover dropped the ball with the Discovery 5. I hate the whole consept and design. The new 2024 Prado immediately has my attention, especially the 5 seater. The current offering does not have enough rear load space due to the styling. The new model will definitely be able to rectify the problem. I will most definitely be moving over from Landrover to the new 2024 Prado.

[@NorthOz]

Thank you for sharing and that makes a lot of sense. I wouldn’t go from a current Prado to a new Prado but if you are new to the brand, this would actually be a great option 👍

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

the disc 5 here in the States has a 4 cy turbo 20" rims and you must have the 3rd row @$65k most 6 cy gas are $75k ive looks for a used diesel none in the se trim all 3 row top spec I said to the dealer get rid of the sunroofs , 3rd row , 2nd row ent screens and power , fold ,tilt this and that less wt = more payload l

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Just like how the Land Cruiser 300 lost its split hatch/tailgate combo the Prado will lose its rear door and wheel option. Streamlining, cost cutting.

[@mwat22]

The closest perspective I can give on that 2.4l engine is it's not that different from the engine in the fortuner and Hilux and the diesel hiace and for the most part the only issue was the DPF if you delete that then no issue

[@NorthOz]

The 2.8 is as low as you’d go for these vehicles given their towing capacity. You wouldn’t want to tow with a 2.4 for long periods of time. But as a passenger vehicle, the 2.4 is great

[@babeyoulove1883]

I think for the first time Toyota is doing a good job... the 2.8 litter is a solid heart to keep the sole of the Prado and keep building... I think with the new look if they can bring hybrid to this equation it would be fantastic.

[@NorthOz]

And I think most people would agree. I just wished they did more with the drivetrain after 15 years we still get the same engine just more expensive 🤷‍♂️

[@babeyoulove1883]

@@NorthOz I agree - at least the V6 petrol - I can understand if they don't wanna bring the V6 diesel ( just keep the big boy LC 300) - I think there is still an opportunity to add a good petrol engine...

[@hamishbayer7065]

@@NorthOz why change something that's not broken, sticking with the 2.8 is a good thing

[@richardwalsh5570]

Spot on re power. The Triton has been a great 4wd, however, always shunned due to low power. 500 is heaps.

[@NorthOz]

Thanks! My patrol is 3T and has 330nm (on a good day) and it still gets up and goes. 500nm is plenty

[@tempestv8]

Having the same platform means that bullbars and bumpers and rock sliders should be cheaper to design for both 250 & 300 and Lexus GX. So hopefully this means cheaper aftermarket kit.

[@NorthOz]

Hopefully 🤞 The aftermarket support should be more ready as opposed to the new hilux where we are still waiting support

[@aron2199]

If rear door is not a barn door then rear wheel is not likely - I think it’s a lift tailgate so unlikely to offer wheel in door

[@NorthOz]

Agreed. The current flatback is just a modified barn door 🤙

[@bibinms4436]

Is 210 mm ground clearance is enough for off road?

[@NorthOz]

It’s 6mm less than a stock hilux and 55mm less than my stock Hilux Rogue. Not terrible but not great either. Cheers for subscribing 🤙

[@fahdabdulaziz5067]

It definitely is Subaru level ground clearance but we will have to wait and see

[@jamesm6341]

Hey mate I ordered round headlight one yesterday.

[@NorthOz]

Nice mate! I’d love to hear what you think of it when you get it! It’s a Toyota, you can’t go wrong but I would’ve liked to have seen more changes over the old Prado

[@jamesm6341]

@@NorthOz yes it is long wait. My gut feeling is that Australia will have the 2.8 engine. I have a 2019 Prado and was able to sell it at reasonable price before a potential price drop.

[@alphabravo3304]

I’ve watched the US reviews and they are selling this purely as their new landcruiser replacing the 200 series. I’m seeing in this model a lot of resemblance to the Tundra. Sadly right across Australia car prices are just simply out of control. I just don’t know why car reviewers are not spreading the message on luxury car tax which is applied to landcruiser. Luxury car tax was first introduced to protect Australian car manufacturing, we don’t have car manufacturing but we do have overpriced imported cars with luxury car tax.

[@NorthOz]

Spot on. We are also getting the tundra here which makes little sense with a new hilux on the way too?! I’d be disappointed if this was the new flagship Landcruiser as America won’t get the 300 but this instead. What a disappointment

[@MOREENGINEERING]

The Wealth Tax has been recalibrated recently. I was just advised(cos I went in to see what was happening with my order) that the tax has gone down and the price will be several thousand(was not told by how much exactly or by what %) just that it was going to save purchasers several thousand $$.

[@oggyoggy1299]

@@MOREENGINEERING Just google the LCT rates. They change every year and you’ll be able to calculate exactly what your saving will be.

[@mikelytwyn3578]

Great video! If you were in the market for a LC200 or 300 for reasonable* prices what would you go for?

[@NorthOz]

I’d go for a 200 series for around $60k with less than 150k kms if possible. Depends where you live and what’s going in the area. You’ll always have issues with a second hand car but I’d rather have a 200 series 20 years from now than a 300

[@rich9903]

I agree with you Mark … maybe the look of the completely redesigned Prado will grow on me in time but at this stage, I much prefer the current shape. Despite being somewhat of a retro-design fan in other regards, I’m not fan of that in my vehicles and hence, I didn’t/don’t like the FJ Cruiser. I’d also be generally very wary of getting the first run of a newly designed and updated model. Time will tell as to how good it is I guess

[@NorthOz]

Couldn’t have said it better myself rich 👍

[@rich9903]

No worries Mark. Probably more importantly than the aesthetics, I’m highly suspicious of the 2.8L engine as opposed to a small V6 (perhaps smaller/lower output than the LC300). Whilst I get the need to be different from the LC300, with a 4cyl 2.8L (and most probably a higher rate weight than the current model Prado), it doesn’t even compete with the Ford Everest V6!! Not sure what Toyota are thinking but I’m sure they have their reasons; however, I also note that they’ve also released a version of the 79’s with the (same) 2.8L motor 🤔

[@Mark.AUS.]

Price worries me too. In regards to the engine, Toyota did the same with the 150 series when it launched with the diesel engine from the 120 series carrying over. This time the engine isn’t exactly the same, according to chief engineer it’s has a new turbo which will make the engine more responsive due to having smaller internals and with the engine having improved efficiencies, they have maintained the same power and torque. My guess is the power and torque that the GR Hilux has will be the same in the GR Prado. Also the new Prado has the same wheel base as the 300 series and the 300 series has dual tanks, so the Prado could also have dual tanks or where one of the tanks is could be where they put the battery for the hybrid system. I think Toyota would not want the new Prado to have a lesser driving range than the current Prado, because that would be seen as a negative by many on the new Prado. Also l have noticed that the prototypes have been seen with plastic on the transmission hump that’s in front of the rear seat. I hope they carpet this area like as been with their past vehicles otherwise this plastic is going to get damaged in no time and look pretty ordinary and that will be a negative in my opinion.

[@---rg1gb]

Definitely do not want a hybrid. This engine a immensely complex when compared to LC engines of prior generations. Complexity = Problems = Hassles = $$

[@NorthOz]

Very true. Especially the terrains that off-roaders like to go. In my experience, water and electricity don’t mix well

[@HugoBoss-mi6fv]

I wouldn't be too disappointed with the new prado missing out on the V6. The 4 pot 2.8 is a pretty solid unit and 500 NM is ample for everything up to sensible towing requirements. interesting geometry with the Turbos and exhaust manifolds inside the V. I personally wouldn't use one as a long distance tow vehicle as we are already starting to see some of the expected heat buildup issues from an engine of this design after sustained heavy use. If you are towing heavy loads long distance i would recommend a larger capacity more conventional engine (Think small truck or Yank tank) If you dont really need to tow 4 ton the current model Prado is a great buy that with good servicing will likely still be running fine in 2040.

[@NorthOz]

Thanks for your thoughts 👍 The new Prado doesn’t do much different to the current one so it’s still a great option but I’d much rather a pre DPF Prado and it’ll be probably be more reliable than the upcoming Prado. They are great trucks but the new model is a let down in the drive train department and will be outsold by MUX and Everests

[@douger1517]

Good review ……what about review the new 70 series?

[@NorthOz]

I might have to do that one too!

[@Mark.AUS.]

Price worries me too. In regards to the engine, Toyota did the same with the 150 series when it launched with the diesel engine from the 120 series carrying over. This time the engine isn’t exactly the same, according to chief engineer it’s has a new turbo which will make the engine more responsive due to having smaller internals and with the engine having improved efficiencies, they have maintained the same power and torque. My guess is the power and torque that the GR Hilux has will be the same in the GR Prado. Also the new Prado has the same wheel base as the 300 series and the 300 series has dual tanks, so the Prado could also have dual tanks or where one of the tanks is could be they put the battery for the hybrid system. I think Toyota would not want the new Prado to have a lesser driving range than the current Prado, because that would be seen as a negative by many on the new Prado. Also l have noticed that the prototypes have been seen with plastic on the transmission hump that’s in front of the rear seat. I hope they carpet this area like as been with their past vehicles otherwise this plastic is going to get damaged in no time and look pretty ordinary and that will be a negative in my opinion.

[@NorthOz]

Absolutely. Lots still up in the air at the moment and as the details are released we will be able to see what we are getting for $80k+

[@harleyboo6951]

The new Prado and Hilux will be so expensive in Aus, they will definitely hike the prices being all new models. If the new 2024 Mitsubishi Triton is priced right I think they will be onto a real winner.

[@NorthOz]

Absolutely. At $85k starting price that is $20k more than what most are willing spend in this segment. If the triton stays under $55k for a decent spec, then sales would improve a lot for Mitsubishi for sure!!

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

@@NorthOz $85 k auz $ is $55k US we pay that for 4runner TRD Pro our best trail rig tacoma is around $47k us or $71k auz seems good to me our LC base model 1958 @$55k us or so

[@farmerlister3863]

We currently have two Lexus RX450h in the house. My wife she wanted to go back to Prado as she used to drive 120 before her RX and apparently she liked it better. So I was waiting for the announcement of the 250. When she saw the 250, she said she definitely prefers the 150 over 250. The reaction was so swift. It was like "that is not the car I want, why do you show this to me?". Long story short, the new 150 is arriving in 2 weeks in bronze color. Frankly I am also tempted to get 150 for myself (used to own Hilux and 200 before). But I will wait for when they have the actual 250 in the show room so that I can see it for myself. I'd buy the GX500 but that one wont come to Europe unfo. Its just not Prado. Its a nice Toyota truck this 250 and it is gonna appeal to the mainstream better than 150. But we like the quirkiness of toyotas, don't we ? We don't want the mainstream

[@NorthOz]

Great thoughts and the 150 is a great 4wd with the 250 not showing any REAL improvements. Like you said, I’d wait until the 250 came out before thinking seriously about one. Thanks for commenting and subscribing 🤙

[@michaeldargan3163]

I agree with your wife. I had a VX V6 120 series for 18 years, just bought a 150 Kakadu and I think the quality of the 120 series was better. Along comes the 250 and it looks like a tarted up FJ. It is like the design team at Toyota have gone brutalistic. They softened the look of the 150 over time and that’s what I have now, a 2022 Kakadu, but the carpets the seats, the plastics used….only time will tell. I will look at the 250 but at present there are too many negatives.

[@farmerlister3863]

@@michaeldargan3163 Like you, I wanna give 250 a fair chance. I will get it for a weekend test from my dealer once it arrives. I like that it's gonna have the same engine as the 150 here in EU. That 2.8 with 6speed tranny is a gem. I'm a little bit pessimistic about the new tranny in 250. We all know that T is not great in programming their AT- takes them years in my experience. If I do like it, I might swap my rx450. If I don't, I will jump on one of the last stock 150s. That's the plan 🤣

[@angeloudy]

It would be nice if they put a bigger battery for the hybrid system like the next gen ranger, so that you can power all your accessories without setting up a dual battery system. But from what read, the battery is only 1.8kwh, disappointing!

[@NorthOz]

You are right. It’s marketed as “electrically assisted” 🤷‍♂️

[@Krambo19]

Good to see a new Prado, I actually like the exterior look of the car. But you made a very good point with regards to the pricing and similarities to other toyota vehicles. Im worried the price will be way too high for most people to purchase.

[@NorthOz]

Absolutely agree. And with budgets being tighter than ever, the last we needed was a much more expensive base model

[@jonathanong4583]

Knowing toyota they will sell it way above its actual value

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

The wheel back is gone meaning the fuel tank is also smaller.

[@NorthOz]

Correct 👍

[@dopemanjace]

I was really looking forward for a nice surprise. Quite disappointed I don't really know why

[@kupelwakasongo5937]

You are not the only one. I was expecting more it looks like a defender to me

[@NorthOz]

Me too. Such a shame. Same power, same features (except for a few features I don’t care about) and the styling looks like a brick fell down the stairs 🤷‍♂️

[@efrainovalles5301]

honest and informed review

[@NorthOz]

Thank you so much efrain. I have never had a super thanks before. That is an amazing comment and a very kind gesture. Thank you very much 🙏

[@efrainovalles5301]

@@NorthOz no problem I liked you video a lot and thought it deserved a tip at least. You deserve more for sure 👍👍

[@NorthOz]

That’s too kind. Thank you very much 😄

[@brownhairydog6472]

I think you missed the mark on a few points in this one. Styling is subjective so fair enough you dont like it. But not sure it's realistic to expect a bare bones model in 2023. Legislation dictates a whole heap of nannies built in and customer expectation is that all cars have a standard level of features. Just the state of the market.

[@NorthOz]

Fair call but there are a lot of people out there that buy the base model of vehicles like this. Base model fortuners, 200 series and Prado’s have been popular since their inception

[@brownhairydog6472]

@@NorthOz unfortunately enthusiasts are likely a minor proportion of the target audience. These will be used for school runs

[@CliveRose26]

The new Ford Ranger has already shown why having a digital gauge instead of a physical one is a bad idea

[@NorthOz]

Yes exactly!! Retro should mean simple not more tech x1000

[@bluesea1110]

Toyota built Gas paddle touch the floor not make the leg so tired

[@lunamaria1048]

This Prado (Called Land Cruiser in America lol) and Tacoma's top trim TRD Pro, in North American market are virtually identical, aside from the Tacoma has no locking center. Same platform, same engine, same sway bar disconnect, same hybrid system. Toyota is making a big mistake. 2 engines, 1 platform? That is outta all your eggs in 1 basket. I'm glad in North American market we get the Lexus version, the GX 550 that will have the same engine twinturbo V6 as the 300 Series! My father had a career with Toyota Motor Corporation Japan for 17 years and he predicted Toyota's current global sales decline. Great points!

[@NorthOz]

Your dad very well could be right if they keep pandering to the city folk and not making robust vehicles

[@lunamaria1048]

@@NorthOz True, however Toyota sells their robust vehicles, like the 70 Series, in rougher rugged places with harsh climates, like Africa, middle east and Australia. Europe and North America is developed with paved roads, so the dominant buyers are suburban soccer moms. Rugged vehicles don't sell well there. The buyers are to blame. People buy these robust 4x4s and daily driving them, so start complainingm demanding more comforts and luxury is, ultimately ruining it. Unfortunately it is the buyers who ruined the 4x4 market, with too many luxury demands because they want to turn them into daily drivers.

[@wortex36]

i like the LC250 1958 series , i will try to get that one , only few will be averable here in iceland . but "normal" 250 series , dont like the front end too much , i keep my 2019 150 if i cannot get the 1958 edicion :) this 1958 series will be more simple and no bullshit .

[@NorthOz]

I haven’t seen that edition. The 150 is for sure the way to go. Keep that one as long as you can 👍

[@Tim_in_Australia]

I agree. The Prado 150 is outstanding, looks great and is awesome. I’ve owned 3. The new 250 LC looks like a blokes car. The retro look is disappointing. My wife drives our Prado and dislikes the new look. Just feeling sad and probably (perhaps) a fork in the road for us.

[@NorthOz]

We are hanging onto our 150. Couldn’t be happier with it and don’t see the point in changing a car just for the style and a few extra features

[@MOREENGINEERING]

How can you say that the 8 speed is going to have the same issues as your 6 speed. Modern auto transmissions are (re)programmable. Because your trans is not dialled in that does not mean that another, in this case an 8 speed is going to have the same issues. It may, but it does not mean it will. Get your 6 speed remapped. I'm sure you you will be happy with result. There are a few companies that specialise in reprogramming a quality transmission like that of your Hilux. Enjoy

[@NorthOz]

Because my auto patrol is like that, my hilux is like that, my flat back Prado was like that, my brothers fortuner is like that, my mums CHR is like that and my dad’s Prado wheelback is like that. All autos are programmable but all of Toyotas current autos hunt for gears and downshift too aggressively going down steep inclines. It’s not an argument of “their ability to not hunt after a tune” is about this is how they come from the factory. I hope the 8 speed is different but unless they improve their tech in the transmission, it will be the same. As I said in the video, I haven’t driven an 8 speed Toyota yet but so this is based on my experience with the company’s various auto models in the past and from other companies as well with similar issues

[@MOREENGINEERING]

Huh ,fair enough! I don't remember how my 120 was(I just loved it) and after 235,000 in my 200 I have not noticed it EXCEPT when the vehicle is towing our 20' van through steep hills (Browns Mountain Southern NSW coast) it did start to hunt a bit. Marmish day and certainly hard on the Trans(to get some engine braking going, downshift). No lights coming on(it has them for the tranny) but no lights. but it definitely changed it's character for a short time in the hills. All good after that🤕. I'm guessing (don't really know) but am I running the same tranny as you?

[@formston]

no dual tank or tailgate spare would sway me away, try and get the spare off when you axel deep in mud

[@NorthOz]

Good point. Could always recover away from the mud but if you find yourself in that situation a bit, you probably wouldn’t be looking at a vehicle like this 👍

[@foxxmufasa]

Imo, I don’t think it looks anything like the 300. I think it looks like a 90 series prado. And it looks better than any body on frame Toyota has minus the 70. Respect your opinion though

[@NorthOz]

Thanks mate. Yeah it’s all personal opinion but it has the same wheelbase as the 300 but absolutely Toyota have tried to differentiate the styling between the 300 and this 🤙

[@EugeneHoney-gv9dg]

Surely with another 300kgs plus of weight vs the Fortuner will result in a far poorer towing vehicle ?

[@NorthOz]

True. It will definitely feel sluggish. Even without towing

[@cjwest9094]

Styling is definitely a bit too forced, and clearly land rover based. It's as if they came up with a concept, and just left it in that state. It's a shame we didn't get a mildly detuned v6 from the 300. However mild hybrid could still be good.

[@NorthOz]

Completely agree. A detuned 300 engine with a single turbo would be enough to differentiate it from the 300. The hybrid would’ve been a hit if it had more power than the current Prado. Looking forward to seeing how the hybrid works first hand

[@BelchevKalin]

Hey, Mark! First of all I think 250 will be more expensive not because of the same frame and suspension parts shared with 300, but because raw materials, CPUs and other components went up in price last several years dew to pandemy and war in Ukraine. Shortages and supply problems are still here. Next: diesel soft hybrid - I guess you maybe right here. BUT I'm sure Toyota will update the 1GD and it will be more powerful than current version or later they will introduce new, more powerful and adequate engine with due facelift. Transmission will be better for sure. The reports for the ten speed in the 300 and in Tundra and Sequoia in US are excellent - very smooth and no hunting for gears. Styling is personal preference and taste so I fully understand you don't liking it. I personally think it is a great design based on older LC designs such as 60 series and some 70s. Also to me it's very different in appearance compared to 300. Spare tyre will be underside only as the back door/hatch will be only opening upwards. So no sub tank unless they come up with another solution. I know for Australian distances it is mandatory to have long range tank. I find it inconvenient but aftermarket rear offroad bumper with swingout tyre carrier will resolve this issue. And because there will be a plenty of aftermarket accessories as soon after they start delivering the new 250 it will be no problem. And I'm sure many will modify their 250 to offroad monsters... :) Stabilizer bar disconnect is for the front IFS suspension as with stabilizer connected it doesn't have a lot of travel. This IMO is great addition to the 250. And not all Prado 150 have rear locker especially in Europe most of them are with LSD rear diff. So adding rear locker on all trims as standard is great. Hope this counts for Europe too.

[@NorthOz]

Thank you for sharing and great info too! Completely agree. The transmission can’t be worse so I think that’s a winner but the sub tank is a big loss. There are no current aftermarket support options for sub tanks in flat back models which means there will be no sub tank option and instead buyers would do a replacement tank to increase the capacity another 20ish litres. Thank you for your perspective and for subscribing 👍

[@BelchevKalin]

@@NorthOz I think overall 250 will be a successful generation of the Prado and soon after it starts selling we'll see many aftermarket accessories including long range tanks or sub tank for it. There are some drawbacks... the engines. I really hope Toyota will put new diesel soon in the 250 and we in Europe get the petrol 2.4 turbo hybrid too. The rumors are we could get the 2.7 naturally aspirated petrol which is very weak for this platform to say the least.

[@adams5202]

They wouldn't put their 2.4L hybrid in so many vehicles over the last two years if it hasn't met their strict torture testing standards. They would not jeopardize their long standing reputation of reliability.

[@NorthOz]

Correct but in a water crossing I don’t know if it can be trusted like my 2023 rogue can be

[@hamishbayer7065]

It's not about retro,they needed to update the Prado just like the 79

[@NorthOz]

Unfortunately they didn’t change the new Prado much at all. Better off sticking to the 150

[@hamishbayer7065]

I think you will find it's a lot different,as for diff locks, a rear one is fine,they managed years ago without them

[@kalsa-zofstuff8091]

Should have been a detuned 300 series motor, with around 600 Nm to match the new Everest. I think Toyota have misread the tea leaves on this one. There is NO chance I’ll be buying one.

[@NorthOz]

Same here. A bit unfortunate. Might as well go for a fortuner or mux with the same power and a 20% discount

[@davemail66]

TBH, I reckon it has a little, tiny bit of the..........modern day Range Rover Discovery look about it!

[@NorthOz]

Completely agree!!

[@aron2199]

If you have sway bar disconnect, you don’t need KDSS- so I say KDSS no more

[@NorthOz]

I believe kdss is helpful beyond a sway bar disconnect so it would be nice to see both in the vehicle 🤙

[@groot1625]

KDSS helped with on road handling, it would lock the stabilisers, producing in most cases minimal body roll around corners. Looking at the current LC300 which removed KDSS from all models Bar the GR, I've noticed a significant increase in body roll compared to the 200s equipped with KDSS. I Think Toyota is trying to cut cost and maximise profit in their newer vehicles.

[@aron2199]

@@groot1625 not sure how the implementation was like in LC200- on prado people who modifies the car gives toyota endless complaints - if they can run thicker sway bar on road to limit body roll and can do Sway bar disconnect for off road, then they achieve what 90% of KDSS can do without the complexity and people whinging- yes reduce cost factor would not be lost to the bean counters either.

[@kieranmccann7823]

Lexus gx v6 twin turbo petrol for me.

[@NorthOz]

Sounds great! But, not exactly on a Prado budget that one. Would be my choice though for sure 🤙

[@dopemanjace]

Wasn't thought through well during planning and development

[@NorthOz]

100% and easy to see with only parts of it in “retro” styling. Makes no sense! Only the front bumper and guards are retro, where’s the rest of the retro?? Certainly not in the interior that’s for sure

[@diplomamilldoc8562]

Toyota prices are out of control. Don’t buy them and the prices will drop.

[@NorthOz]

It’s only going to get worse too!

[@udayanthaniraj]

I’m not alone

[@NorthOz]

Absolutely 🤙

[@ResilienceRealm71]

don’t know if am the only who finds it ugly but why all of a sudden the boxy designs among suvs becoming way to common, toyota doesn’t really need to dissolve their identity to make it look like land rover

[@noctilucent7396]

I actually like it. A lot.

[@NorthOz]

There is a lot to like about it but as an upgrade from the 150, I think it missed the mark in a few areas

[@noctilucent7396]

@NorthOz Maybe for you but as far as my lifestyle this thing is a win win, I'll be selling my 200 series and moving into the Hybird Cruiser. I'm getting older and dont off road for fun as much anymore and ready for a Cruiser with better mpg that I can find a parking spot but enjoy overlanding with my small family with good mpg and enough capabilities for my needs while maintaining the Cruiser qualities that no other vechiles seem to offer, and a big bonus I think this cruiser has the ability to be used as a power generator in a pinch! The 2400w hook up power source nobody seems to be talking about

[@Gemini_0815]

You’re not making sense. First you say you wished they had kept a less expensive platform to save cost and keep the price down, then you say you wished they’d given it the engine from the very expensive big brother. This is completely illogical.

[@NorthOz]

I see you point but perhaps an example may help you. The fortuner did it. It has a different chassis to the Prado (based off a hilux) and has the running gear of a hilux/Prado for $10-15k cheaper. The same could’ve applied to the Prado but instead it got the opposite. The platform of the 300 and the running gear from new and old models of different vehicles that are not near the 300’s spec

[@Gemini_0815]

@@NorthOz ok, I understand where you’re coming from. What you’re describing does exist in the US as a Sequoia. It’s an SUV version of the Tundra. In the same way the fortuner (or 4Runner in the US) has been basically a Hilux with a cheap SUV body and many carry over parts from the truck. Like leaf spring suspension instead of coils, cheaper interior, less equipment, transfer case without differential etc… but that was never the recipe for a Prado. Prado has always been a coil sprung dedicated vehicle with Center Diff and higher quality. That’s exactly what makes it good. Changing the bits that were not optimal is the right move. The 6speed was not ideal, let’s hope the 8speed is better. The ladder frame chassis was too heavy, now they have improved the welding tech thus better stiffness and weight. This does not mean it is as expensive as a 300. But it carries over the same principles which make it better.

[@michaeldargan3163]

I think FJ owners will flock to it, and many in the comments who express a like of it are past FJ owners. I don’t like brutalistic design reminiscent of Jeeps. Its exterior and interior look like the beginnings of a design brief, an unsophisticated start. The mechanical side is probably going to be ok but electronics, fuel tank issues, rear wheel access and other details mean I’ll stick with my 150.

[@NorthOz]

It’s a bit Jeep looking. I agree. We won’t be upgrading from our 150 anytime soon thats for sure

[@mikezog1030]

It's fugly. The current 150 is able to be hard on the track and then scrub up for the night. This new look isn't going to scrub up well.

[@NorthOz]

You don’t always want to bring your tools with you wherever you go and this is exactly that. Hard to bring a vehicle like this to a work meeting or nice night out

[@michaeldande]

We should now keep our old hilux n prado since they ruined it

[@dopemanjace]

True Talk

[@NorthOz]

Yes! This right here people ☝️I’m hanging on to my hilux forever

[@kcsrr15]

Put in either the V6 or V8. Otherwise I will ignore it.

[@NorthOz]

Definitely wanted the v6 in this. Very disappointed

[@dopemanjace]

Excellent Honest Review Awesome Opinion

[@NorthOz]

I appreciate that mate! Thanks for subscribing, it means a lot 🤙

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

GX550 V6 overtrail will be sought after in the U.S. but dealers will mark Them up or people will buyThem to flip ,so we might as well wait til 2026 for our order to get to the dealers ,the cars need to get lighter less of a luxury car with 3 rows of leather , massive sunroofs, 2 nd row ent screens and power. fold. tilt this and that go back to a basic wagon

[@NorthOz]

Oh for sure. A base Lexus would be great. What’s the rrp on one of those over there?

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

@@NorthOz the GX 550 is not on sale yet say $60k to $80k US.$

[@nickwojtow6787]

Toyota makes zero sense. If they were smart they would have redesigned the FJCruiser to compete with the new Bronco and Jeep Wrangler/Unlimited. This is a hugely popular segment. The Tacoma is not the same. FJCruiser with a removable top, normal doors would have sold phenomenally. I don't get the point of the new Land Cruiser when they just redesigned the Sequoia which looks awesome by the way.

[@NorthOz]

True! A smaller suv to rival Jeep etc would’ve been better received. Not a full sized suv with an under powered drive train

[@nickwojtow6787]

@@NorthOz Toyota under powers everything!!! No V8 in the Tundra anymore was a bad decision. There is no substitute for cubic inches no matter how many turbos.

[@V1-Rotate242]

It just looks horrible, The previous gen toyota Prados look a lot better. I’m not sure if this has become as Nerfed as the 300 series

[@NorthOz]

Couldn’t agree more. Poor effort in my view. Thanks for subbing 👍

[@TheFinesseAngler]

I think that they’ve actually done a good thing. The people have been complaining about the 150 shape not getting an upgrade in many years. This is the upgrade that they’ve decided to go with and I’m sure a lot of thought and research has gone into it. It’s simple, looks tough and they haven’t gone over board with the interior design. I honestly like the shape and I think with basic upgrades like Tyres, lift kit and some bar work it would look great!

[@NorthOz]

Thanks for commenting and subscribing. I Would like to hear your thoughts on the engine as well. The interior is very nice but the retro charm will be lost with bar work and it will look almost identical to a 300 with barwork imo. Lift would fix the clearance issue and it definitely needs new wheels 🛞

[@TheFinesseAngler]

@@NorthOz Engine wise I’m sure we would of all liked to see abit more power. Although like you said, it’s more than enough for a 4x4. I guess Toyota has gone with the old “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it, which is great in terms of reliability. The deal breaker for me isn’t really the “retro” look they’re trying to achieve, it’s more the solid look with the modern touch which will no doubt look beastly with bar work and some additional lighting. I guess we’ll just have to wait for the official release of the vehicle and see some proper reviews. Who knows, it might grow on you and we might see some North oz vids in your new Prado 😉.

[@richardwalsh5570]

Infotainment screen looks like the landrover style which i think is a way better shape than the ford screen 😊

[@NorthOz]

I agree. But a bit disappointed they changed the instrument cluster to a screen. I find them cheap looking but that’s my opinion

[@lonesomecricket7721]

That wheel well design is a disappointment as well 🥴

[@NorthOz]

For sure! The flares look okay but more like an after thought

[@ibrahimbashir6634]

Being different doesn't mean correct😅😊

[@NorthOz]

Yes 🙌

[@JeepCherokeeful]

Toyota continues to be marginal, almost 3 decades on...

[@NorthOz]

Bit unfortunate that there was more included from the 150 to the 250. The 120 to 150 was a massive improvement across the board but this was a disappointing upgrade

[@aus-reviews8462]

clearly going in the wrong direction, they need to make smaller more affordable 4wds not prados on roids

[@NorthOz]

Even then, this isn’t even for serious off-roaders. It does the same off road as the 150 but with extra rigidity, it could be worse

[@mohnnadmercedes8246]

Its big and heavy with small engine derived from camry corolla with turbo to pull almost 3 tons SUV 🤡 people sucked into LC name with big screens bla bla bla ! Plus tons of sugar coatings from journalists

[@NorthOz]

Definitely a disappointment and I won’t be purchasing this one 🤷‍♂️

[@bigfishfishing-111]

Have a look at the landcruiser electric model. 😂 It's bloody awful

[@NorthOz]

Oh no. I’m scared to look 🫣

[@zbigniewmajdanski735]

Engin 150kW power is a joke under power and noisy

[@NorthOz]

True and that’s combined power with hybrid. When that battery runs out, who knows how much power you are left with 🤔

[@markdalton3603]

Love the New Prado 👍👍👍

[@NorthOz]

Interesting! What exactly do you like about it. Would love to hear from you 🤙

[@markdalton3603]

I really like the styling, exterior and interior. Hope their is a option for a spare wheel on the back and the towing capacity is over 2700kg as they are stating a tow capacity of 6000 pounds. I have ordered one. Although don’t know specifications yet. Best to get in the queue because I think it will be a winner 🥇

[@kupelwakasongo5937]

I also don't like the new looks. It's ugly 🥴🥴

[@dopemanjace]

Toyota Prado Budget And Toyota Prado Discount Old Prado Better in my opinion

[@NorthOz]

It sure is. I don’t why all the reviewers like it, it’s hideous!!

[@Heardbydeaf]

Looks like toyota finally gave in...all that endless journalistic whine about not enough shiny screens and dull - same old/same old outer design lines. So now we have it - shiny screens and LandRover/Bronco/Tank looks..new "hip" toyota... Sad. Then again, maybe in ten years time they will change it back to look retro :D

[@NorthOz]

Haha so true! Off-roaders want the basics why are they including heated steering wheels as standard?? Options like these should be that, options! Give me a base model with nothing fancy and a rock bottom price. That’s what we want, not a home theatre system 😫

[@ianforbes8029]

Looks like a fake defender 110

[@NorthOz]

Doesn’t look great does it. I’d hope it looks better in person

[@craigparker4108]

It's ugly inside & out. But I'm bias i hate all new cars. You want retro buy one & do it up ffs.

[@NorthOz]

I don’t think retro is word Toyota should have used. Slapping a front bar on a 300 hardly makes it retro

[@craigparker4108]

@@NorthOz Exactly, appealing to soccer dads so they can convince soccer mums that they need one lol.

[@luisfelipeenamorado3460]

Horrible, enough said

[@NorthOz]

Not good that’s for sure

[@Dreamer10888]

Everyone needs to take public transport

[@dododale-ni7bf]

nissan PATROL it is the way to go, toyota become a jock!!!