I hung up on a rude customer and now I'm facing a disciplinary [LBC Legal Hour]

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Daniel Barnett, Barrister

Daniel Barnett, Barrister

Күн бұрын

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@Sirjohnfootball
@Sirjohnfootball Жыл бұрын
Can we give some credit to the caller please? Got straight to the point, asked a direct and clear question and was accepting of Daniels advice even though it probably wasn’t what he wanted to hear. An exemplary call.
@beanut.putter
@beanut.putter Жыл бұрын
Agreed💯
@Professional_Youtube_Commenter
@Professional_Youtube_Commenter Жыл бұрын
still a cunt for selling a car to elderly people who probably didn't know what they were signing.
@chillired5389
@chillired5389 9 ай бұрын
I take it you’re being sarcastic🤔
@ScottZ370
@ScottZ370 Ай бұрын
Shows the benefits of independent arbitrators
@jordancrabbe4404
@jordancrabbe4404 Жыл бұрын
Fair play to the caller, took that on the chin better than I would have. In the wrong and accepted it once explained.
@samibaozilover
@samibaozilover Ай бұрын
How was he wrong if someone yells at you all bets are off, the employer should be protecting their staff
@Ajspecial1000
@Ajspecial1000 29 күн бұрын
@@samibaozilovernot what happened tho is it
@Blakey20N
@Blakey20N 10 ай бұрын
This was me calling. I was a couple of pints deep and was caught out a bit when they put me through to him!😆 Daniel asked me if my employer was disciplining me because of the insurance mix-up- I accepted that might be the case but it wasn’t at all. It was because of the hang-up on the borderline abusive daughter. These confusions happen with customers and it’s totally fine, we can help them sort it. I care a lot about the job I do and treat it like Christmas when the time comes for customer comes to collect their new car, so I was upset that the daughter chastised me over the phone after the work and effort I’d put in to make her (very elderly) grandparents ‘new car day’ special. I ended the call because I panicked and didn’t want to slip up by saying something back to the daughter It was purely because of the hang up, management told me after how I should’ve handled it. Because I hadn’t handled it the way they’d just told me I should’ve, I’d be in a disciplinary. Hence my question can you be disciplined on the handling of a situation you haven’t be trained on. I’ve now taken a promotion with a different dealer group and left the business. Mind you I’ve been listening to the legal hour for ages so it was good to get on!!😆 N.b. Don’t know how the word uncontionable popped into my head phaha
@PlayerWellKnown
@PlayerWellKnown 8 ай бұрын
You sound like a good bloke. Glad it worked out for you.
@Matthew-bu7fg
@Matthew-bu7fg 6 ай бұрын
Great call but I'm a little worried you speak about being "a couple of pints deep" when in the first 60 seconds of the clip you specifically referenced jumping into "my car"
@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood
@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood 4 ай бұрын
Great news Congratulations on the career progression 🙌
@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood
@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood 4 ай бұрын
@@Matthew-bu7fg Clearly so it’s quiet, not to drive
@Blakey20N
@Blakey20N 3 ай бұрын
@ I live very rurally, no signal in house, usually stand on the drive/ sit in car to make calls.
@syllomusic
@syllomusic 5 ай бұрын
I've never watched such a clear, progressive line of lawyer questioning.. ..against such a reasonable, and curious bloke. Fair play to both caller and Daniel!
@EppingForest304
@EppingForest304 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always been told to buy my own insurance policy before collecting the car. The only exception was when I was given 14 days free insurance by the dealer… but I still had to make the phone call myself to set-up the free policy!
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 Жыл бұрын
I think Daniel's got this completely wrong. They aren't going to bring a disciplinary over the insurance issue - it's their policy not to provide insurance and he was just following it. Even if he slipped up and didn't mention it to the customer, that wouldn't be a disciplinary. Call handlers making mistakes results in additional training, not disciplinaries. The disciplinary will be for hanging up on a customer. And him knowing the customer was going to complain doesn't mean he knew he had done something wrong. Customers make unfounded complaints all the time. You can tell when a customer is likely to complain. The problem here is that the employer apparently doesn't have a policy on how to handle irate customers and they should. If he wasn't trained on what to do then deciding for himself that hanging up is the best option is perfectly reasonable.
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 10 ай бұрын
@@Blakey20N Thanks for posting the update. It's great to hear you have moved on to bigger and better things!
@Cynicalgeek743
@Cynicalgeek743 Ай бұрын
@@Blakey20N Glad to see you felt it was ok to drive after the same drinks that made you incapable of presenting your case properly
@Blakey20N
@Blakey20N Ай бұрын
@@Cynicalgeek743 Live rurally, no signal in house, stand at end of drive or in car to make phone calls, ‘cycnicalgimp743’
@nifralo2752
@nifralo2752 4 ай бұрын
If they are swearing at you then yes you are entitled to hang up. No one is paid to take abuse.
@lwo7736
@lwo7736 29 күн бұрын
"Entitled" is the wrong word. Justified is a better word. You're right, you shouldn't be expected to tolerate verbal abuse, but you're not entitled to not receive it
@vdd
@vdd 2 ай бұрын
I used to work on the phone You were allowed to hang up on abusive customer's so long as you gave them fair warning first that you would do so if the abuse continued You weren't allowed to argue or snap back though
@TomWhi
@TomWhi Ай бұрын
Wow. In this day and age it’s hard to believe someone would accept someone else’s point on a national radio station and not argue the toss over it, great call, caller and advice!
@theevildrjelly4626
@theevildrjelly4626 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t sanjita who works for LBC hung up on a caller sack her
@Sr68720
@Sr68720 Жыл бұрын
exactly
@CEO786
@CEO786 10 ай бұрын
Sanjita is beautiful leave her alone ❤
@theevildrjelly4626
@theevildrjelly4626 9 ай бұрын
@@CEO786 😂😂😂
@FattyOn2Wheels
@FattyOn2Wheels Ай бұрын
age in my opinion is this case should not matter they should now they need insurance beforehand if not they should not be driving
@mintywebb
@mintywebb Ай бұрын
Why is it his job to tell them they need insurance.
@MrDamo34
@MrDamo34 Ай бұрын
The days of the customer always being right are over when it comes to abuse. However, this fellow does seem a little highly strung and he has just called a live radio show to talk about the incident. I’m willing to admit may be wrong but I’ve a suspicion that he may be in the wrong job!
@briananderson8428
@briananderson8428 3 ай бұрын
Daniel is a smart dude. Great call!
@mujahidamin8504
@mujahidamin8504 9 ай бұрын
I want my medical records including in the final bundle but the respondents are dragging their feet. What legal right should I quote in my favour? Thanks.
@keirbourne5323
@keirbourne5323 16 күн бұрын
The real question here is how are there people with driving licences who don’t know you need to get insurance??!! Worrying that these people are out there!
@coderider3022
@coderider3022 Жыл бұрын
Everyone knows to get insurance when buying a vehicle, total breakdown or non existent in the customer journey at his company.
@monishbiswas1966
@monishbiswas1966 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes the dealer will arrange temporary insurance for a month so you can collect the car and arrange insurance later. This was offered to me, although I ended up sorting out insurance myself before picking up.
@coderider3022
@coderider3022 Жыл бұрын
@@monishbiswas1966 I had this too with a new car once but still a requirement of a licence to know this.
@Professional_Youtube_Commenter
@Professional_Youtube_Commenter Жыл бұрын
cunt mis sold to elderly people. he knows they dont undertand these things, which is why he called the daughter to explain the situation to them. cunts like this go door to door to elderly people's homes and rip them off with emotional blackmail
@PaulJohn-m5w
@PaulJohn-m5w 7 ай бұрын
ACAS no longer suggest a set number of days employees must be given as notice to prepare for a disciplinary hearing - it says reasonable amount of time. The 5 days caller is referring to is likely to be related to grievance hearings. It says employers should have a grievance meeting within 5 days.
@wetflannel6343
@wetflannel6343 Ай бұрын
I mean an elderly customer who's been driving for year surely should know you need insurance to drive a new car
@HB91LDN
@HB91LDN Ай бұрын
I feel his pain, hanging up on a customer is never the answer though. Either just stay quite or get a manager on the line
@kevinshanahan6064
@kevinshanahan6064 28 күн бұрын
I was passing the desk of one of my staff and cut the call off as the caller was being abusive. I said they can speak to me but I am nit expecting you to take abuse. I might have been in the same position but using foul and abusive language to my colleague is enough for me to end the call.
@JP-hu8wi
@JP-hu8wi 4 ай бұрын
Great call. That caller seems like a good dude
@damianleah6744
@damianleah6744 Жыл бұрын
Some of the general public think they can be rude and obnoxious & their mistakes are yours somehow , but don’t like it when pulled up about it. I had this when someone asked for the boss, I said I was the boss, which put them in a cul de sac.
@stocktonjoans
@stocktonjoans Ай бұрын
when I worked in a call centre I _loved_ getting rude callers. what's better then wasting an assholes time and getting paid for it?
@zanyzoo6767
@zanyzoo6767 Ай бұрын
If you cant deal with a customer , good or bad. Then dont do the job.
@goattm2
@goattm2 Ай бұрын
So that's the majority of people then.
@chrisgibson7591
@chrisgibson7591 Ай бұрын
I can understand why customers are getting angry customer service in the UK is absolutely diabolical,
@kincaidwolf5184
@kincaidwolf5184 21 күн бұрын
Who gets paid enough to be abuses by work
@barrysteven5964
@barrysteven5964 Ай бұрын
Baffled by this. Doesn't the employer have any sort of duty of care towards its employees? Being ordered to accept abusive behaviour under threat of disciplinary action sounds appalling. We need unions!
@paul8161
@paul8161 Ай бұрын
Two points, the customer shouldn't have kicked off at him, and Daniel shouldn't have bit back , but he's only human, so people do , the question of did Daniel think he behaved inappropriately was a leading question and I certainly wouldn't have answered it like Daniel did, he didn't act inappropriately there was just a mix up, big difference...he also states Daniel miscommunicated and the customer was upset about that, the mix up was presumably the customers fault for not understanding what Daniel had said to them, so they lashed out rather than just apologing to Daniel and being polite and civil in the matter.
@Professional_Youtube_Commenter
@Professional_Youtube_Commenter 11 күн бұрын
hang on. did we not get a lbc caller not long ago about some car dealer who sold them a completely unsuiable car to their elderly parents who cant drive it nor insure it and the dealer is basically just say tough the deals done.
@RyanLind
@RyanLind Ай бұрын
Salesman over promise under-delivered... there are 3 sides to the story and the 3rd is the truth!
@brianbale9511
@brianbale9511 21 күн бұрын
Danny could he get the rude caller to offer support by being empathetic...Then reinstate..hes a obvious work overload? Stress? Cost of sandwiches crisis ?
@MarkL-we8uk
@MarkL-we8uk Ай бұрын
My question is why would you want to work in a place so capricious, draconian and pedantic which clearly sounds soul destroying...
@barbarasevenoaks6821
@barbarasevenoaks6821 28 күн бұрын
I thought this title a bit misleading. It sounded like Daniel himself had hung up on a caller. Usually a good show, although should be longer, 1.5 hours would be better. It goes quickly and too many adverts.
@firestarter1888
@firestarter1888 Жыл бұрын
oh well, its a meat slabber job anyway 10 a penny
@autoclearanceuk7191
@autoclearanceuk7191 Ай бұрын
A customer called me an f-in prick. I ended the call and was given a disciplinary for it.
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