I lived the artist dream, here’s the Truth about a Dream Job

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joz draws in prada

joz draws in prada

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@almightyarsenal3366
@almightyarsenal3366 Ай бұрын
I don’t remember where I heard this but a great quote I try to live by is: “In life, you need 3 hobbies; one to make you money, one to keep you healthy, and one that makes you happy”
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
Never heard that one, but that's a good one!
@aaad3552
@aaad3552 Ай бұрын
That's shallow no of, fence
@JMulvy
@JMulvy Ай бұрын
That's exactly how I approach it. Web Dev, Cycling, Art.
@unikreations2258
@unikreations2258 Ай бұрын
You are so brave to bring the truth to the commercial art industry. I’m retired now at 65. The industry had become stressful and with unrealistic deadlines when it adapted to the use of computers. The more design options I created, the clients expected faster results because they think that computers can generate finished art quicker. They don’t understand what takes time is the creative process itself. I too became tired and unwell often. I too realized after a while, no job is worth your life. Without your health, nothing else matters and nothing else brings any more joy.
@seolong3326
@seolong3326 Ай бұрын
I used to work as a concept artist, both in-house and freelance. It was my dream job! But over time, I realized that I only truly enjoy drawing when it's on my own terms-what I want, when I want. I've since pivoted to a completely different career and I'm much happier now treating art as a hobby. This approach works for me, but everyone’s journey is different I suppose.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@seolong3326 It very much is. I know a lot of people who are good artists but chose to not go professional for the exact reason.
@samueldraws
@samueldraws Ай бұрын
I had this same realization, though in college. I was taking illustration courses and they completely burned me out really quick with the "draw the assignment, not what you want." I switched my major to oil painting and there was a lot more "paint what you want, so long as you're painting". The art fundamentals were the same regardless of discipline, but only the painting had a way our nourishing my desire. But It was only the last year that I made that switch when working on my undergrad. By then I was way burned out. I walked out realizing there was no happiness in making art unless I was doing it for myself. I work as a computer programmer professionally, and if/when I take my art professional it'll be on my terms.
@DILLAxB
@DILLAxB Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your perspective this is a great way to change it up for yourself
@seolong3326
@seolong3326 Ай бұрын
@@samueldraws Thank you for sharing! Hahah I also work as a programmer :D
@Calavera00
@Calavera00 Ай бұрын
@@seolong3326What was that journey like, going from art to programming? I’m considering something like this myself
@codeninja100
@codeninja100 Ай бұрын
This was great. I'm glad you addressed this because this is an epidemic in the art industry. So many artists chain themselves to their desk and miss out on life for nothing. I was definitely one of them in my early 20's. Trying to hit that 10,000 hours myth before 25 just to paint textures at some AAA game studio. It was only when I stepped into the real world I realized it was all BS and a lot of these artist are being taken advantage of to be sold online courses and workshops lol.. So many artists would be well off financially if they just got off line and became active in their communities. Like you mentioned there's so much wasted potential. You might find yourself in a job that you love as a job and you're in a better place to make art because of it.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@codeninja100 Haha painting textures for an AAA game...I totally get that.
@grumblekin
@grumblekin Ай бұрын
I’m a professor. We break ourselves into pieces for nothing….nothing at all. A job ain’t nothing but work.
@yisforyellow7014
@yisforyellow7014 Ай бұрын
Why do you say that? Aren't you helping your students?
@grumblekin
@grumblekin Ай бұрын
@@yisforyellow7014 We do. But, with shrinking budgets, we end up having to do 3 or 4 full-time jobs (admin duties, teaching, research, etc.). I don't like the concept of using graduate students as indentured servants...I'd prefer my students to learn and graduate on time. So the extra work falls onto me. And I only really get credit for publications and grants, not taking care of students. So most of my work is evaluated based on the output of papers that very few people read. That's where the "nothing at all" comes from.
@roboticvisions
@roboticvisions Ай бұрын
Speak for yourself.
@yakoozey2271
@yakoozey2271 Ай бұрын
@@yisforyellow7014 It's hard to be there for someone if the other doesn't appreciate you.
@CFlandre
@CFlandre 25 күн бұрын
@@cashmeremilk Our dreams can hold us hostage if we're not careful enough to recognize them for what they are.
@kuasadunia
@kuasadunia Ай бұрын
i work in creatives and one thing that keeps me sane is procrastinating. the amount of not work that I'm doing really makes me less stressful. Im lucky to have found a client that is very understanding. Though the pay is not crazy. It is enough. And enough is OK for me.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@kuasadunia Who would've thought procrastination was good for your health? 😮 You might be onto something!
@evenmoreevil
@evenmoreevil Ай бұрын
I love your videos so much. Please keep making them!
@samueldraws
@samueldraws Ай бұрын
I appreciate your message. A lot of people think that just "creating art" is enough. But it loses it's value as a form of "self-expression" when you're spending hours and hours realizing someone else's vision. The "self-expression" is, at least for me, where the joy comes from. I work as a computer programmer, and only plan to take my art professionally if I can do it on my own terms.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
I actually don't mind making art for paying clients. But what you're saying, understanding which parts about making art give you joy, is crucial to being content as a professional artist. I know quite a few people who chose not to pursue art professionally for the same reason you have and they're happy keeping art for themselves.
@richietherichieguy
@richietherichieguy Ай бұрын
Thank you for showing us the reality of making art for a living. It seems so simple, but its good knowing that the time spent not making art and just slowing down and taking in life's experiences is what is needed to enrich creativity and support mental and physical well being. I saw an unrelated video titled Sad Truth of Being A Japanese Animator, and just can't imagine living like that kind of life where the artists prioritize the product over their health. Employees working for big companies in every industry gotta remind themselves that if they kick the bucket, their seat can be quickly replaced.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@richietherichieguy Thanks for taking the time to watch 🙂.
@NRSoundDesign
@NRSoundDesign Ай бұрын
I do sound design for games/movies, and I feel it 100%. When people ask me how am I stressed I always tell them "yes, I love doing sounds! but I'm not doing sounds with my own vision. I am told what to do from stakeholders/CEOs, and most of the time I dont like the sounds I have to make" To most people this does not mean anything because they don't see sound as art, but being an artist and being forced to do what non-artist people think just for the sake of "its gonna make more money" it kills you inside. But when I find Leads/Seniors with my own vision? Those are FUN times, and I would not trade it for the whole world's gold!
@j.t.schroff131
@j.t.schroff131 Ай бұрын
I went to art school for five years, i got pushed into going to school by my parents and teachers and now i work at a shirt factory doing grunt work instead of graphic design. I get paid more and work less in the factory than as an artist. after i graduated from college i was completely burnt out creatively. Not having an art job is very refreshing, and i have four days off to work on art on the side and not take it too seriously.
@Lissemt
@Lissemt Ай бұрын
Same I always new I wanted to do side projects with art but i didn't want it to be my main job. People though i was crazy but I realize I like doing my own things and being able to unplug, get benefits, and sell I few thing here and there.
@Ily_y100
@Ily_y100 Ай бұрын
Same! I tried doing art as a job and just started resenting it... Animation and 3D at that. Now I work at a board game store as a cashier and I love it. Pay could be better but at least my mental health is at good place. I will look into some side projects. But all in all, never going fully into art industry again.
@coolchameleon21
@coolchameleon21 26 күн бұрын
do you mind if i ask you more about your factory job? i was considering going to school for graphic design, but I’ve been hearing a lot of doom and gloom about AI. i was considering factory work as a plan but
@kwaddell
@kwaddell 25 күн бұрын
Graduated with a bachelor’s in art and animation with dreams of working on games (I wanted to work at DoubleFine) and felt just as burnt out, despondent to find out even my peers at college who I thought were the cream of the crop who found work had to jump from contract to contract. Increasingly listless, I joined the Air Force. Honestly so much good and stability has come of it and I’ve been in 11 years now.
@MrRosebeing
@MrRosebeing Ай бұрын
A job is a job. Every kind of job is hard work no matter how glamorous it looks to outsiders.
@MikeT-o5b
@MikeT-o5b Ай бұрын
Ya it's generally good to work with reputable ones. I'm starting to think that we shouldn't have a manager as the person if it's more stress. I think well since automation is about to be a fruition in 40 years I'm starting to think it would make more sense the computer tells us what to do while we as people have the independence & autonomy. Also the people that wouldn't want to work just find some exotic land where you don't have to work a day in your life.
@Bopsterjazz
@Bopsterjazz Ай бұрын
I appreciate that this was posted just before Inktober. Also, I’m not sure if you’ve read the Artist’s Way, but it’s something that really helped me. It’s all about making yourself a priority and finding joy in things maybe outside of art.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
I hadn't even realized Inktober was coming up! Haha great accidental timing. I've not read that book, but I've heard of it. I'll check it out!
@PrismaKittyKreations
@PrismaKittyKreations Ай бұрын
This made me really emotional. I'm going through the same thing right now-realizing that the industry I thought I loved doesn't love me back. My brain and body were pushed to it's limit and now I have a lifelong, uncurable illness because I thought if I worked hard enough, I'd eventually make it to where I wanted to be. I'm making changes for myself and it feels like those changes are eventually going to lead to me leaving the animation industry-but I think it'll be for the best. Thanks for sharing this side of it all; I think it's so important.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
The love the industry gives you will always be conditional no matter the level of your success; it will never love you permanently! Choosing to take care of yourself is a good direction. I'm glad to hear you the video resonated with you. I'm learning to take care of myself as well from my health experiences!
@zhannabulankova3495
@zhannabulankova3495 15 күн бұрын
Where do you leave?
@wishingoncupcakes18
@wishingoncupcakes18 Ай бұрын
Thanks for mentioning the truth behind passion and work and how that kind of blends together in a good and bad way.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
Glad the message got through to you. Thank you for watching!
@jups_the_artist
@jups_the_artist Ай бұрын
I relate to this. Especially the bit where we artist typically put our work before health. Finding time to unwind and replenish your creativity through novel experiences is so important as a working artist. Well done Jocelyn 🙌🏾
@stefanmilicevic5322
@stefanmilicevic5322 Ай бұрын
Eloquently expressed. Working oneself to death is definitely not the answer to life's problems. It's great that you've found a balance.
@boopydoop491
@boopydoop491 Ай бұрын
Very well said!! I’ve just graduated and had some very intense BG gigs, especially today when remote work is so common it’s SO important to maintain that work/life balance and find things outside of art that keep you normal lol
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@boopydoop491 Yes, balance does wonders!
@artofbim_
@artofbim_ Ай бұрын
Thank you for reminding me I gotta take break sometimes! So happy that you feel better now! Love ur content btw
@kupskiarts
@kupskiarts Ай бұрын
A lot of artists seek validation ouside instead of focusing on fulfilling the urge that art brings. I learned that early on thankfully and now all my pursuits outside of dayjob falls into passion and not to fill a quota someone else decides. Great video and hope you listen to yourself =)
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@kupskiarts I hope so too 🤣! I am doing my best to correct my old ways.
@stan_p
@stan_p Ай бұрын
I draw only those orders that i like, so i dont have to draw anything for "myself" on my studio job i lead only those projects i like. No stress or crunches, my work day ends on 6pm. I visit gym and go for a walks, every time i relax or play games i self improve as an artist, via observation. There is no urge to draw(well sometimes and its manageable, like, once per year) I already work at GameDev industry for 6 years. Freelancing for 13 years. The idea of balance came to me naturally, i understood that i have limited cognitive and psychological resource as human being, so i need to manage it efficiently. In the middle of my career, i was surprised that everyone else grinding their gears a lot harder than me, but i thought that they are just better than me and it had no effect on my behavior. I wish you the same, manage yourself like a good boss, not a bad one.
@1111122234
@1111122234 Ай бұрын
Please don't stop making vids. I really enjoy them..!!!
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@1111122234 Thank you 😊. This is only my 3rd video so we still got many more to go!
@Marchew1200
@Marchew1200 Ай бұрын
Pretty much everything you said is what my psychiatrist told me as well. I have a job as a doordasher food delivery guy and its a nice tolerable job that has its flaws but i still like it and of course that i make money. And that also alllows me to have no stress about my art. It allows me to seperate my art from my chores.
@ToniLeirvikLarsen
@ToniLeirvikLarsen Ай бұрын
I freelance full-time as a video editor. I’ve been approaching burnout for a while now, which has led me to re-evaluate a lot of things, not only about my work but my everyday life as a whole. I can relate to a lot of your talking points, the most relatable one being identity. I love saying, “I’m a video editor,” not “I edit videos for work.” This, combined with feeling guilty about not making videos in my spare time as well, has been a vicious circle that I’ve been trapped in for a while. I could go on about this topic for hours, but again, you summarize a lot of my thoughts and concerns I’ve been having for a while. Current strategy: Taking a week off and not thinking about work. It’s going to be nice ✨ Thanks for sharing your experience!
@mochiness
@mochiness Ай бұрын
I 100% agree with what youre saying, and i hope more artists and creatives share their personal experiences of this balance i think is important to sustain ourselves and allow us the grace of patience, to grow and shrink, and thrive. Within the past year or so, I've really tried to balance the concept that 'we aren't defined your career/ work'. Sure, it may feel like it, especially when it takes so much of your time (mentally and physically) and the constant barrage and pressures of other creatives online constantly posting and producing makes us feel slow, not as productive, incompetent even. Our careers and jobs may be part of us, but i don't think it's inherently, us. We as people are very complex and that is something that should be explored and celebrated especially if it's not 'brand' or aesthetic to our personal brand. Great video, hope more people get to see this! If you ever want more interesting places and stops and shops, i can give you a list if at all interested (I recognize that thai ice cream anywherelol) : )) as exploring and discovering new places and shopping at craft markets are also a big passion of mine! Good luck on your journey, hope all the best for ya!
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@mochiness Wow thank you for such a well written comment! Yes, I hope we normalize deattaching identities from our jobs. I think people are realizing it more during this job market crash. I'd absolutely love some suggestions for fun spots! 😀 I'm always on the look out. Appreciate you offering!
@mochiness
@mochiness Ай бұрын
@@jozdrawsinprada I didn’t know where to place this lil list, so ill just place it here! I’m more familiar with the Pasadena area so here ya go (if you haven’t heard of them already): Jone’s Coffee Roasters (both locations!) The Gold Bug/ Homage Nostalgic Café - across the st of gold bug Chado Tea Room Castillo Tea House Burlington Arcade (Mandarin coffee) Stumptown coffee roasters (Coraline collab may still be there!) Fiore Marketplace As well as some markets and events: South Pasadena Farmers Market (every Thursday)
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@mochiness Thank you for this extensive list! I'll definitely check these out. I filmed at a couple places so they should be showing up in coming videos! 😀
@idkidk-ys9sf
@idkidk-ys9sf Ай бұрын
i want to stop but i think im obsessed and have been obsessed with the idea of succeeding as an artist so long i have no identity outside of that. its really sad and scary. nice to see others finding ways out of that
@RyanStormCartoons
@RyanStormCartoons Ай бұрын
I went through a very similar cycle, so this really resonated with me. I was never at a network with a desk as an artist, but I hustled so much as a freelance animator that I lost all my time for myself, for my social life, and for my own art. I thought I could work hard forever, but I inevitably burned myself out. After a period of drifting between job paths, I found myself still working in Video Production today, as its what I'm happy doing, but I'm also able to give myself significantly more control over my time and where my priorities in life should be due to a more set schedule. The inevitable stress to produce only the same thing ad nauseam, that comes from an algorithm, is counter intuitive to any artistic process in my opinion. Creativity doesn't need to be a monetized passion, despite so many telling us other wise. Great video!
@akj3344
@akj3344 Ай бұрын
This video is simply amazing. The background music fits perfectly as well. Great job! This truly felt like meditation 🐻
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
Thank you, music selection does take me some time!
@alm5851
@alm5851 Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. It's quite common for any industry to take passion and turn it into profit in all fields. It's important to be mindful of our limits and capacity daily to avoid burnout and stuff. I can relate (burnt out several times in my field ended up leaving) Cheers.
@SL3DApps
@SL3DApps Ай бұрын
Your eye for aesthetically pleasing design is amazing. I think it’s important to remember that YOU are not your body. You’re only borrowing your physical body for a short period of time in life and how you treat it is entirely up to you. Pushing your body to its limits doesn’t have any effect on the real you. The real YOU will still have the same preferences, aspirations and drive to move forward even though your body can’t function properly anymore. That’s why it’s important to separate yourself from your body and start treating it like a vehicle you need to maintain everyday to avoid problems.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
That's a very interesting way to look at it!
@nonamepainter
@nonamepainter 21 күн бұрын
As someone who has a rare disease that popped up later in life, you are your health. When I went from healthy to unhealthy everything about me changed in fundamental ways and my focus completely shifted from others to myself and making sure I was as healthy as I could be in order to function in the world. I'm not trying to be rude but your statement sounds both naive and privileged.
@greatdemonlord006
@greatdemonlord006 Ай бұрын
Videos like this always let me see things from a new perspective for a while.
@nindza79
@nindza79 Ай бұрын
This is so true. My bad back, pain in the knees, occasional carpal tunnel inflammation, high blood pressure and ever-worsening eyesight can confirm that.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
🥲
@aliceinavalon
@aliceinavalon Ай бұрын
Ahhh currently in a game writing deadline crunch, and there’s so so so many things here that resonate! I’m so happy you took the time to share your thoughts, since sometimes it can be difficult to encapsulate the real Faustian exchange that happens when working the job you love rooted in passion. From experience, passion can be part of the ingredient but you definitely learn over time how to try to protect the amount you have without sacrificing or risking your sense of wellness and identity, and a lot of that also goes hand-in-hand with realizing your worth, which can be a very difficult thing to answer throughout your journey depending on your life experiences. I’d love to share this to other fellow creatives and friends who sometimes need more context whenever they assume that being in a job I love doesn’t come without its own tough days and challenges.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
I love that! I'm glad a lot of people have resonated with this video, and if you think others can benefit from it, I'd be honored if you decided to share it. And I appreciate you for watching and commenting amidst crunch time! Best of luck with the deadline and stay well!
@Chiriri123
@Chiriri123 Ай бұрын
This video hits home for me. I got burned out completely during my years through art school and honestly i should’ve stayed true to myself and took a gap year but my parents wanted me to continue the 4 years. Since then continued to push through despite it really hurting but also cause idk who i am without being an artist. After graduation i’ve not much to show for myself and instead of really finding success I’ve just stopped drawing entirely. While art is my passion, trying to make it a career hurt me and my passion for it. I wish I could go at my own pace but with the whole industry expecting everyone to put in 200% I don’t think I have a place anymore.
@SepulvedaBoulevard
@SepulvedaBoulevard Ай бұрын
You remind me of the documentary features of the driven athlete/musician/artist where we watch someone torture themself to achieve the pinnacle of greatness, and if we ask why they would do this, we are accused of being insensitive/disrespectful/ignorant. I always see someone who is a slave to a dream that isn't theirs, a parasitic infection masquerading as a gift. I'm recently retired for medical reasons, re-evaluating my artistic goals and joys. Scary, but definitely liberating❤
@andrewehrman
@andrewehrman 16 күн бұрын
Needed to hear this today, thank you for sharing your journey!
@June_drawssss
@June_drawssss Ай бұрын
I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos! thank u
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch! 🥰
@rickarroyo
@rickarroyo Ай бұрын
I worked as a musician for 8 years, then moved on to 3D animation and worked in a studio for 10 years, and working in a studio (it's hell) stressed me out a lot. Now I'm a broke and underpaid freelancer studying 2D animation. Everything always leads me to art, but I've been asking myself: what does my inner child want after all?
@Mangasketch
@Mangasketch Ай бұрын
I appreciate you so much for this video! i hope you know how much of an impact this has had on me in this time in my life. Thank you!
@allaganqueen
@allaganqueen Ай бұрын
I got my "dream job" as a book designer and illustrator this year. It's been an adjustment to balance that with my personal work. I've realized I need to work at a slower pace for personal work and not heap things on myself that aren't necessary - like keeping up with social media and working on larger pieces that naturally involve more time and effort to complete. So I'm trying to go at a more sustainable pace, since I intend to keep making art until I'm gone.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@allaganqueen It's also ok to not create sometimes if you're drained. We need balance. And congrats on your job!
@Cederlof_Ink
@Cederlof_Ink Ай бұрын
I do finish carpentry, most my life I've wanted to make my art my job instead, but more and more I realize that I draw for myself, that's the only time I seem to truly enjoy drawing. I appreciate your take on things, its crazy how we push ourselves so far for money, even though it only seems to (mostly) exsist on a computer screen, imaginairy. yet we tie ourselves so thoroughly to the idea of it.
@ivy_cherries
@ivy_cherries Ай бұрын
i discovered my health condition back in 2020 and was asked to lay low until I stabilize my brain injury. ofc I take this time to create art until I get noticed in social media and be one of the popular digital artist. during the pursue I slowly realize how I'm slowly burning out and not as creative as way back when I was healthy and doing work... which made me anxious and lost. bc I have the time and chance to pursue yet the creativity or passion is not there. fast forward to now, I'm slowly accepting drawing is a creative outlet when I'm under stress or side hobby... was never my dream job to begin with. this just the video i needed. thank u sm
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@ivy_cherries Good on you for realizing that! I hope everything has been better since.
@squward
@squward Ай бұрын
Loved this video, thank for reminding me that I don’t need to be creating 24/7. I’m excited to see when your next video will be out!!
@robbitpat
@robbitpat 15 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your stories. I am working on a future plan and this helps me a ton. I think I get the answer! Health should be priority over job even if it's a dream job.
@federicoparravicini8403
@federicoparravicini8403 Ай бұрын
I love this! I work in video production as well and it's an extremely easy field to get burnt out on. Congratulations on prioritising yourself and thinking of the long run - can't wait to see more of your stuff 💃
@onlyfriendyeah
@onlyfriendyeah Ай бұрын
'i will complete inktober this year. i won't burn out like i did last time' - me every year
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@onlyfriendyeah Every artist ever 😂.
@chopsticks8204
@chopsticks8204 Ай бұрын
Thank's for putting this out there. I only create when i am paid because of the points you mentioned. I spend the rest of my time on my hobbies, friends/family and exercise, no creative side hustles to keep myself relevant in the social media side of things. The creative industry wasn't my dream, it's just what i ended up being good at. Fun but it's physically taxing.
@robvision3888
@robvision3888 Ай бұрын
You put into words things that I have thought in my mind, but could not put into words. I am glad you are finding more peace. Thank you for your insightful video. The video format for your message is excellent. Keep it up 👍
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@robvision3888 Thank you! This video was quite a challenge to get right.
@soulvz
@soulvz Ай бұрын
It was nice hearing your experience on this, especially as an aspiring artist. Thank you :)
@Ruben-bm2gr
@Ruben-bm2gr Ай бұрын
Passion can lead to so much bad for an individual who isn't controlled by the normal flow of 9-5... Without those boundaries set back in 1926 by Henry ford we might as well be slaves... most without health care, 401K, pensions, work friends, work parties, vacations, sick leave, car pooling, stipends or food courts ... It's truly a grueling job with so much criticism that would normally never be aimed at 9-5 job. Take Boeing, their employees were fired for speaking up about slowing down for quality or doing things more efficiently or safety concerns; not for lack of good work... "door plug, downed planes". There are no unions for independent Artists that I know of. You explained it very well. Good luck to you and all the artists out there.
@rklein
@rklein Ай бұрын
All the safety warnings turned into white noise... the best description I've heard to describe what we put ourselves through.
@beebeedeluxe
@beebeedeluxe 29 күн бұрын
I wanted so badly to leave a longer reply but I’m on a short break working towards another ambitious deadline as an artist. 20+ years in the gaming industry and some things never change or just morph into subtle variants of years past. At this point in time I’m much more empathetic to other artists’ struggles and eventually I’d like to dedicate time publishing health, sleep and de-stress tips. I’m surprisingly in less pain and discomfort in my 40s vs 30s due to better educating myself in those areas and even with continued long hours. Ironically I might not have time to publish any of that until I’ve retired or taken a long hiatus 🙃 Oh and thank you for sharing this honest video and congrats on focusing more priority on your health 🙏
@DutchDillion
@DutchDillion Ай бұрын
Finally someone said it, I did the “dream job” for 17 years. I’ts a trap
@chorizojoe8282
@chorizojoe8282 Ай бұрын
I was lucky and got my dream role as a designer for a firm I admired since I was in Uni. It was an absolute nightmare. My team was full of cut throat hypocrites and I left after 4 months due to the toxicity. I feel like a real “dream job” is one where I’m my own boss.
@M.a.l.t.e
@M.a.l.t.e Ай бұрын
Being an artist my self I love this video. Thank you!
@PVTParts-eu3zl
@PVTParts-eu3zl Ай бұрын
Anime industry animator here, My health improved massively once I put my foot down about weekends, I barely work on weekends, otherwise they can find someone else (Underpaid while in a third world country so it's kinda hard to find someone else is what I believe).
@TheGoldsmurf07
@TheGoldsmurf07 Ай бұрын
My first career in design area started as freelance illustrator and I was thrilled to get that opportunity but then nightmare started, no matter how hard I worked, I never felt I have enough accomplishment. I tried hard both in design and creative industry, the real fact is the market never shows stable demand and it’s always competitive, also I lived in a city that crazily high for living costs and now I need to focus more on something else, I need to amid that my life and health get better. I had so much struggles about just being “lazy” or keeping having my muscle pain problems quietly…
@pluckpack
@pluckpack Ай бұрын
beautiful video, thank you! for anyone that wants to get more in touch with their bodies, I recommend a simple meditative exercise--- whenever you have a thought about a emotion or a thought about something that makes you emotional, instead of trusting the content of your thought, go straight to your body and see what you are actually feeling. thoughts are very deceiving. Both "positive" and "negative" ones. It's very possible to have positive thoughts like "I feel excited!", even when this "excitement" is just you feeling restless and anxious. And it's also possible to have thoughts like "I'm bored" when your body feels completely fine and there's nothing that you need to fix. Don't let your mind be the arbiter of what you are feeling Always double check with your body.
@peterxyz3541
@peterxyz3541 Ай бұрын
Work is work, good and bad. I had to do physical, mindless work just to give my brain a break. Now, I have “functional balance” of doing archery, bicycling to balance out sitting in front id the computer all the time
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@peterxyz3541 Wow that sounds fun! I never had the shoulder strength for archery 🥲.
@peterxyz3541
@peterxyz3541 Ай бұрын
@@jozdrawsinprada another artist that’s up late (3am my time)🤣. You can get bows with interchangeable limbs from 12lbs to 60lbs. I use an 18lbs set in my “massive” indoor range (bedroom) for a week while my foot recovered Good luck, first time seeing your channel. YT alg seem to be pushing lot more artist my way….and many vids are fairly job & happiness focus vs the tech and how-to I focus on Stay healthy👍 20lbs ankle weights for when you move about at home?
@_Ari_Artistry_
@_Ari_Artistry_ Ай бұрын
I'm really hoping to build up my art business again. However, sometimes it makes me anxious and worried that I'll fail with something I love. I have to remind my self that it's ok to feel nervous. However, I also have to remind myself that I'm able to make money, to keep myself in check with my health, always take a break from work and do something different and finally just do what makes me happy. As a artist myself, I love to draw and I want to work hard on building back my art business again. However, I only have one mind and body and I want to take care of myself mentally and physically. So, it's ok to take breaks from a job, even a dream job.
@ericonly
@ericonly Ай бұрын
We are our worst critic and at times it's hard not to get into our heads. Health should come first and stress can do horrible things. Thank you for sharing and I look forward in enjoying more of your videos.
@jantrada8824
@jantrada8824 28 күн бұрын
despite all the warnings, somehow I still feel compelled to pursue art as a means of living, especially knowing the fact that by living in a 3rd world country, I can still fatten my bank account when I work for clients from countries with stronger currencies. I honestly don't mind it being a job, since I have a fun (and somewhat dangerous) hobby which is riding a motorbike.... sometimes committing traffic felonies but damn it feels so good to let out all the stress by revving that engine, and then go back to my studio fully recharged
@Jubamon
@Jubamon 27 күн бұрын
I really liked your video ✨ but the truth is, the problem will never be the art, the problem will always be capitalism
@trippedoutfish
@trippedoutfish Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story! There's a lot of crossover with some of these feelings within the software space as well. It feels like if I am not spending free time uplevelling my skills for work, I will fall behind and everyone is dooming about the future of software. It's particularly difficult when you feel like you need to spend time on things that will help you specifically for work and not just fun programming tasks like making a game. Looking forward to continue seeing your journey and understanding how I can apply the things you've learned and shared to my own life.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@trippedoutfish I definitely had tech in mind too when making this video. We share so many parallels to tech despite being very different. Appreciate you watching! ☺️
@jayperezart
@jayperezart Ай бұрын
I hope your doing better with health, i know how stressful that can be while still trying to move forward in life and art. Love your videos- J
@ChrisRodriguez9694
@ChrisRodriguez9694 Ай бұрын
I'm glad you feel better now.
@paulabarboza326
@paulabarboza326 Ай бұрын
I completely get it... I worked on the graphic design industry for 3 years, I had some sort of technical degree from highschool and I'm from a low income family so I always knew I had to pay for my own education if I decided to go to college... I worked so hard, slept so little, worked overtime a lot without the extra pay because, on weekends even sometimes due to the "you are young, and its part of the grind" and then almost 70% of my income would go to paying for my animation degree, where I would need to study at nights, and due to the job sometimes i was unable to take classes... I was having anxiety attacks regularly, I had anemia for a while and just felt so sick all the time and also pretty damn sad. I love drawing but... I felt like i was waisting my money on a different degree just to be exploited by a new industry seeing everything that's going on...i felt like the dream they were selling, did not exist and it was not worth it to me to spend my twenties sick, sad and anxious always tired and without time to just be... So I quitted both and here I am trying to learn animation on my own and with a corpo job 😅 but my health did improve a lot and i was able to get theraphy instead of burning myself out completely, my biggest fear was if i continued down that road is that i would leave art as a whole
@JuanHaiii
@JuanHaiii Ай бұрын
It’s really a shame we push this culture of “Never stop creating”. Because TRUE artists love it so much they will do it day & night! Definitely is a subject it should be talked about more. And telling people it’s OKAY to not be creating 24/7. Also realizing that there isn’t such thing as a “Dream Job”. Personally I came to realize I value the PEOPLE that I work with, much more than the WORK itself. Thanks for creating this video.💚
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@JuanHaiii Absolutely. I tell people all the time as well it's about the people you work with, not the project!
@roamlikekane
@roamlikekane Ай бұрын
The path to yourself is the most challenging trek one can embark on. Conversely, it'll be the most rewarding, for when the pavement reaches the sand, it'll be illuminating. Feng shui-ing the interior of your soul is a power move.
@amielsanders8512
@amielsanders8512 Ай бұрын
Just discovered your channel by accident...glad I did. Really great content. Thank you.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@amielsanders8512 Thank you! Glad to have you here!
@billybro1403
@billybro1403 26 күн бұрын
I hated working as an illustrator even though I adore art. It saves me from everything, but as soon as I veer into commercial art and mass production, I go crazy
@None38389
@None38389 Ай бұрын
The process of consuming art is just as important as the prosses of creating, if not more. If you spent all your time creating art without giving yourself a chance to properly appreciate art you'll run out of fuel quickly. I used to believe that in order to improve as an artist I must be creating non-stop, but the older I get the more I realized I actually learned more from observing and processing what I saw than actually drawing.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
Completely agree! We don't emphasize this enough.
@carlosquall15
@carlosquall15 24 күн бұрын
As someone who's lived most of my life working in corporate, worked in multiple jobs and industries(except the "dream job") and constantly being burned out and now pursuing my passion, I've developed a mindset that every job is still a job in the end of the day. I view my "dream job" as just another job. You just need to choose your "poison". Suffer doing what you hate, or suffer doing what you love.
@ya64
@ya64 Ай бұрын
I work as web developer and now that, it's been 10 years since I started, I've accumulated enough knowledge that I can go by without programming outside work hours. I dedicate my free time to other things. I still care and try to be up to date on things but I don't use my brain power for coding outside of work.
@ClaireCraig
@ClaireCraig Ай бұрын
i love your speech and pacing
@palette_1563
@palette_1563 Ай бұрын
When I was in high school my dad asked me what it is I was going to do with my life and future career. I just shrugged my shoulders. After taking an aptitude test it was decided that I should go into something creative, as I enjoyed spending hours in my room and building models and doodling and drawing anyway. When I went to a specialized school that concentrated on the arts, I was blown away on my first day by the level of talent. I felt intimidated by the student work on the walls. It did help me to push my limits and I eventually began a 27 year career as a graphic designer, working in corporate art departments and ad agencies. I would create my own art in my spare time and I do so to this day. I was never the most talented artist, I always had a sense of imposter-syndrome. That may be because of my low confidence level in my talent, but whatever the reason, the truth is that I always felt that there are so many other artists waaaay more talented than I am. After getting laid off in 2012 I have not worked in that field since, although I do continue to create art in my spare time, even earning income sometimes, even from commercial projects. I have been a driving instructor and a courier since then and in some ways I feel more free. There has always been that yearning in me to be "like that artist" who sells regularly, has gallery representation, etc. But perhaps I am still passionate because I never did get to that level of constantly being asked to churn out work at unreasonable expectations.
@topjos12
@topjos12 22 күн бұрын
I think it's safe to assume that every job comes with its flaws, it's just the dream jobs we tend to overlook them. I still hope to be a freelance artist one day but I'm very well aware of the bs I need to deal with.
@nekoart753
@nekoart753 23 күн бұрын
As someone who graduated manga art studies at a vocational school in Japan (I am noi Japanese btw, a foreign student) I studied there at the first place because drawing especially making characters/stories had always been my dream since I was a kid. But gradually I just feel that my skill is medicore at best, after efforts of selling custom stuffs and opening comissions never really worked gradually I just lost hope in ever going successful or heck just make money at all out of art. its been 3 years since I graduated art school, now continuing uni majoring in finance out of family pressure since obviously my asian household sees education/skill in art as inferior/useless. Gradually tho I feel that they are right and I feel so lost since I have always tied drawing to my identity, including as my coping mechanism to deal with emotional/mental issues especially with a lot of bottling things up since like every asian household ever you'd only get scolded/mocked more if you open up or get vulnurable about your feelings. I still have a lot of mixed feelings, though I am more accepting that in the end maybe I'll just stick with a 9-5 job for financial stability related to the major I am studying at atm, and if its true that my art is not good enough to make it in the industry then may as well create whatever I want without the pressure of having to be perfect in it in order not to starve/get homeless. Besides, I also have many times where I do kinda force myself to do my passion project, I feel its counerproductive when I am cooped up in my room all day trying to force myself to draw, then I'd end up not drawing much/at all and question say if I *do* make career out of art would I ACTUALLY be happy locking myself in a room forced to draw wether I'm in mood or not all day for the rest of my working life with no gurantee of stable income? I mean if a "dream job" is meant to make you happy then forcing yourself to do what's supposed to be your hobby till your mental/physical health deteriorates definitely defeats the purpose
@MrChrisArtStudio
@MrChrisArtStudio Ай бұрын
Jocelyn! omg! I thought I recognized you. The KZbin algorithm brought me here! Congrats! Your videos are doing so well! This video is a great message!
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
Whoa hey, small world! I'm thankful they seem to be doing well, but I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop 😅. Thank you for stopping by and watching!
@JessIdlehart
@JessIdlehart Ай бұрын
Thank you for another great, very relatable video!
@Fetjdg
@Fetjdg Ай бұрын
I like to write short stories to photography that I model for. But after several written stories I have to stop, because I feel empty, like every story inside of me has been already written down. Then I have to take time, experience new things to get some new fuel for new stories.
@frazzlejay
@frazzlejay Ай бұрын
Thanks for your insight, was great to hear ✌
@rfart419
@rfart419 Ай бұрын
Personally, I still want to become a famous KZbin artist known for openly venting my frustration or anger in professional artwork someday because I'm so tired of feeling left out or misunderstood all the time because of my autism. 😢❤🎉
@DivineDrawss
@DivineDrawss Ай бұрын
so do it , angel :)
@michaelepp6212
@michaelepp6212 Ай бұрын
I had a solo show in September that opened on the 4th. I've taken the rest of the month off. I'll start thinking about my next series of work on Oct 1. Downtime is a luxury I can afford, not necessarily easily, but I can manage.
@martina_verde3D
@martina_verde3D Ай бұрын
Yeah, I was like this but with studying during hs and uni, finally when I got a job I was able to start regain a little of freedom and to focus on myself. I only do 3d for work or small courses I do. I would like to do personal projects, but I don't have the energy or the time, and I know I would ignore myself once again like when I was studying full time...
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@martina_verde3D That's the sad reality of business ☹️. But you gotta do right by your health!
@Mettlehead
@Mettlehead Ай бұрын
LOVE aesthetic spaces as well 🥰🤘
@mgsazul
@mgsazul Ай бұрын
this is so eye opening thank you for this ..subbed
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@mgsazul Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching and sticking around!
@mgsazul
@mgsazul Ай бұрын
@@jozdrawsinprada ✨✨✨
@ant_989
@ant_989 Ай бұрын
Having a job directly associated with your passion or hobby is the worst thing you can have. There's a fatigue in any activity in this world. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you. Imagine slowly starting to hate things which made you passionate or you loved. It's the worst thing that could happen to anyone. You're selling your soul for what? Like she said in the video, there's important balance between work and passion. I'd rather have a job which I like lukewarm and have a hobby/passion in my free time rather than doing passion/hobby as work for full time. Those bs quotes about "not having to work even 1 day in your life" is the biggest poison.
@theIdlecrane
@theIdlecrane Ай бұрын
I had to physically go from being a desk only guy to running a full marathon to learn how to live… it brings me to tears when I think about how tough it really is…
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
@@theIdlecrane That's an amazing accomplishment though!
@the-comments-poet
@the-comments-poet Ай бұрын
Mouse Every day I see the world I am forever amazed by its unending wonders And all the beauty of everything around me Each blade of grass, every pebbles, shoot and twigs Drops of dew as diamonds in the morning sun The fresh scent of renewed hope in the early breath The promises of life awoken Riches and abundance and rewards near I am so very small - this world so big Though I look and look I cannot see very far But I can see I belong here That I belong to here The new day also brings hurdles and sorrow Streams to cross, treacherous and menacing covers I am just a solitary little mouse trotting along In this immeasurable field I call home And no matter the dangers and the threats However unkind the weather and cold the nights And the friends lost and the dark days I am grateful for this ground I walk on I am the life given to me Like a voice needs a listener And the dream a dreamer This earth comes alive under my tiny little feet I am bound to it as it is to me I am just a solitary little mouse trotting along Small and defenceless, sometimes scared and unsure But trusting and confident in this moment Today, there is nowhere else I would rather be Here and now I belong To this life given to me I am a voice, I am a dream, I am a breath I am just a little mouse
@av7k
@av7k Ай бұрын
I'm in a dilemma on what to study in college... I love art, any type, but I don't want my work to make me hate it or just lose that passion.. my other option is law school, I am passionate about the money & like helping people but I feel like I wouldnt be as driven to do well and keep going as with art. I studied art for years and when it began to feel like a job I would shut down... I need people's opinions because it's starting to eat me up and I only have 1 week to decide my future. I want to have a stable life but also be happy.
@pluckpack
@pluckpack Ай бұрын
it's lovely that you are being mindful of your future, but I just wanted to reassure you that what you study in college won't necessarily impact the rest of your life. Go where your intuition leads you, and if worst comes to be, you can always turn around and move towards a different path. It may not feel that way--- in fact things may feel very heavy or intense, but they don't have to. I guess what I wanted to say is that you don't need to worry about making the wrong or the right choice. These things naturally work themselves out through time so long as you stay in touch with your intuition/gut and adapt as you feel necessary. Please take care
@ujwallimbu9657
@ujwallimbu9657 28 күн бұрын
Great message
@christophercox936
@christophercox936 Ай бұрын
Hi. Kostabi is an artist who does very well. When he first started out he spent all his waking hours painting but was starving. He put an ad in the newspaper to have other people paint his paintings which he signs while he went to parties to promote himself. Now years later he is a millionaire, lives in Italy, still employs artists, but spends his days painting wonderful things for himself. You have to find what works not what kills you.
@cashmeremilk
@cashmeremilk 28 күн бұрын
This sounds awful ngl.
@crashito_x
@crashito_x Ай бұрын
Recently after a literal mental breakdown and a couple of panic attacks I was diagnosed by a professional psychiatrist with OCD, I thought it was only people very worried about cleanliness that had ocd. Nope, only people with OCD become so perfectionist. Weird stuff....
@mizubiart6230
@mizubiart6230 27 күн бұрын
I learnt the value of sleep the hard and terrifying way. Terrifying because I felt like even my will couldn’t lift me. I figured the minimum is 6:30 hours. You can kind of lose your mind. Not worth it. I also learnt the value of friendship the difficult way of feeling completely without compass in life. We need other people to know who we are and what our purpose is here in this world. Talking to people saves you so much time wasted questioning yourself. Because sometimes you just don’t know. And it’s okay, just ask somebody for help.
@MaakaSakuranbo
@MaakaSakuranbo Ай бұрын
I think people need to realise that "I love this" doesn't mean "I would love doing this as a job" necessarily. If your art is that you love bringing all your brain ideas to live. Well as a job you might have to bring other people's ideas to live instead. Stuff like that
@joonglegamer9898
@joonglegamer9898 Ай бұрын
When art becomes industrial or corporate - it's no longer art. Art doesn't need fans or followers, art is just what YOU put into it. If you need to make a living, just make a living whether it's flipping burgers, moving furniture, teaching, or whatever brings home the money to live for, everyone's gotta do that - one service for another. Art however, doesn't need a price tag, art is there to make you happy first and foremost. The minute you start reading into what other people think your art should be, how much you should be doing it, or what it should be - it's no longer art, it's a production. Stop being productive - start living.
@MovingStill-l3o
@MovingStill-l3o Ай бұрын
I have never heard of the guy who drew on the walls. But I felt even if I went blind I would still draw... until I unknowingly in my heart crossed a line.
@Timpers
@Timpers Ай бұрын
amazing video, subbed :)
@dormaettu302
@dormaettu302 Ай бұрын
Such a good topic. Thank you.
@LuBu2
@LuBu2 Ай бұрын
I still dream of being an artist. But Idk. My soulless corporate job is...pretty chill ngl. I got used to it. I don't know if that is good or bad lol.
@jozdrawsinprada
@jozdrawsinprada Ай бұрын
To each their own, right 🙂?
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