I Lived With A Killer | Season 1 | Episode 10 | William Choyce | Robert Mladinich

[@gwalker9182]

That my daughter acting as the little girl! Good job Kiahna Walker!!

[@sandeedriver1941]

Aww! She is darling!

[@helenwillis9852]

BeAuitful

[@user-dq1ic7oe1l]

Really ? :-)

[@keishaskelton9923]

She was great 😊

[@deborahelizabethyaw1058]

Awww she is so beautiful and brave 🥰 good job mom

[@punkyshrewster2736]

This is insanely frustrating to watch. That mother ignored so many red flags and allowed her daughter to be alone with her abuser. Wtf.

[@peggypeggy4137]

This is regarding the ski mask incident and it is beside the point but...the daughter was so young at the time. Why would he even be going out at all considering there would have been nobody there to watch her? You would think that if he wanted to go out to rape someone, he would wait until the wife was home. What if the little girl opens the door to the cops? He was such a maniac that he wouldn't have been able to control his sick, twisted urges.

[@jordy7932]

Ma’am! 👏🏾 After he smacked your daughter down, that should’ve been I.T.! This was just too much. Between her denial and his lunatic ass, I could barely finish.

[@suzanhodges415]

Well said

[@MaryTheresa1986]

If my husband dared to do that, he would no longer be alive.

[@wilfordfraser6347]

"He wasn't a good Dad but he was my Dad". I am so amazed at how loyal children are to parents who are monsters.

[@heytam7162]

Yeah don’t be, it’s a very complicated, twisted and an awful battle of separating the monster from those father moments that are good and children/adults with abusive fathers crave for.

[@Tms559]

Your comment caused me to think about my father. nothing will ever change the fact that he fathered me and that I have some good memories of him as a father. Its not loyalty. Its just facts. And yea, I’m amazed!

[@rodneymoran4569]

@wilfordfraser6347 yeah she doesn't know the difference between a biological father and a dad he not a dad

[@froladee]

I had to pause! I was shocked at the part where the daughter pages 911 to her mom about the mask. She calls right back asking to speak to her dad about the mask?! Why not wait to get back home, just tell the daughter to stay out of his way. That little girl had to be terrified after she heard him explaining the mask.

[@msvalery9305]

Not to mention that he wasn’t not investigated or tried for that rape or break in.

[@bigbul5656]

How she can ask her daughter to talk about mask,how stupid of her ?

[@urielgrey]

I'm so glad Crystal is doing so well and is so well loved. My sadness and condolences go out to the victims families

[@Mysticalzelda]

Please stop victim shaming. The ex-wife and daughter didn't commit any murder or rape. They were victims themselves. Being a victim of abuse clouds your vision. The only thing that could've helped was an outsider recodinzing it and convincing them to go to the police, but even that is extremely hard to do.

[@inkyguy]

“recondizing”?

[@Mysticalzelda]

@@inkyguy sorry, English isn't my first language

[@DystopianOverture]

I believe the daughter was also failed by her mum too.

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

It seems all psychopaths have the ability to appear charming. I think being charming is actually a red flag!

[@deebeautiful84]

Yes!

[@JD-mv1dv]

You might be right! Watching these types of documentaries it sure does seem that way...

[@cocoapuffs3893]

Not enough charm in the world. The wife knew he was a nut job and played stupid.

[@cclovnme]

Don't trust nobody but your mama 😆.

[@boogsybrooks]

@@cclovnme Sometimes you can't even do that

[@joeannchaney1219]

I saw another documentary on this and the wife was a real piece of work.She was so obsessed with being married to a Choyce,she overlooked alot.She caught him in their bed with another women and she overlooked.They went to a gathering at his family's house,he went to hug his mother and she screamed "dont touch me!".This was a messed up man and he treated her daughter like crap,yet she stayed because she married a Choyce.

[@Americanwoman74]

Yes i saw this on "Evil Lives Here" on the ID channel. You know you're evil when your own mom don't want you hugging her. Lol

[@dawnmathwin6126]

@Joeann Chaney is the Choyce family name something meaningful is the area like? The wife is certain something else, she seems to want to just justify her actions and make excuses rather than admit upto her failings to her daughter and to the victims families by looking the other way. In my eyes she also has blood on her hands, as the saying goes 'bad men only prosperous when good men sit back and do nothing'

[@Garbeaux.]

It was her Choyce after all.

[@StrongRae]

@@Americanwoman74 apparently he wanted to have sex with his mom… idk if something happened but his mom didn’t want him to touch her

[@laylaluv5821]

So interesting when mama was talking about the bodily revulsion she felt as he touched her... the body always knows. Intuition is strong.

[@debralucas2224]

Very true. We must act on that intuition.

[@mountaingirl1797]

Wow never thought exactly along that thought… thank you…‼️‼️👍🏻

[@brevitysome]

police, "do you want to know why your husband was arrested. " wife, "no."

[@KenyanBunnie]

🙄🤦🏾‍♀️ It was a coping mechanism for her.

[@noneya1238]

Well they were taunting her. And the police do that to black people so she was on defense.

[@pennythayer7105]

unless you have lived with someone like him you have no understanding how you would act .

[@debralucas2224]

I think we have to keep pressing the message that victims need to run at the first red flags. And friends/family need to know the signs. It's a big conversation :)

[@kathrynellison328]

I didn't really realize till a yr later after leaving him.

[@Leonforever5]

@@kathrynellison328 Me either. Unfortunately, he hid his 'monster' so well, that he even had government agencies, ALL of my boys therapists, (they have Autism) our lawyer for child (I met him after I finally got out of an extremely bad domestic violent relationship) AND my boys child psychologist fooled! He worked as a counselor ffs!! Unfortunately, it was not until he beat my beautiful 5yr old son to death that I realized how manipulated I had been by him AND his family. They even managed to manipulate me to the point that I believed the police got it wrong & that my wee boy had had an unwitnessed accident for almost a year after it happened 😔 The guilt for not realizing what I had brought into all of my childrens lives until it was too late, will never lessen or go away. I trusted this man, loved him, married him, my children called him Daddy, yet it wasn't until he took my entire world from me that I realized who & what he really was. A narcissistic sociopath 😪

[@hanabbe]

I lived with someone like him and I left when my child was young rather than subject my child to that life. So I have no sympathy for women who place their selves over their children.

[@spider-manfan2007]

You lack empathy or understanding if that's how you feel. Every situation is different. You have no right to judge anyone!

[@hanabbe]

@@spider-manfan2007 but isn't that just what you are doing??

[@spider-manfan2007]

@@hanabbe if you say so

[@kathrynellison328]

I would have thought you have sympathy for other women in their position. Even explain that you feel greatful you were strong enough to get out. ps I'm very glad you did leave.

[@hanabbe]

@@kathrynellison328 I feel sympathy for the children, not grown women.

[@cathyabril8615]

Pretty disgusted by the amount of shame people are giving this woman. You all say “I would have left!”.... yeah... so did I when I was younger. Then I married a man, A very evil man, who beat me for 10 years. I have a protective order, have had it for nearly 2 years.. and I officially divorced him. I have 4 children with him (who are in my sole custody),he beat me in front of them... the amount of control, manipulation, and fear is something you could NEVER understand until you live it. So your comments of “if that was me” are irrelevant and, quite frankly, useless.

[@debralucas2224]

I hope you're healing and I'm sorry you had to go through that.

[@davidrele]

People just want to be seen as smart. But they sound dumb, blaming the victims. It's easy to spot the killer in a documentary about killers. I've never seen anyone saying they knew their husband was a serial killer from the get go.

[@chikochiringa7247]

People have the attitude of blaming the victim and that is why most victims die in silence

[@peggypeggy4137]

I'm glad you got out and away from your abusive husband. Although I am only writing this from the internet, I sincerely wish all the best for you and your family. It's easy to have 20-20 hindsight and say what you would have done if that were you. When there are kids involved, it realistically narrows the options considerably. We as viewers, will never know what her situation was like by watching a 45 minute show in the comfort of our homes.

[@ellafacebooktruecrimecases3644]

I am a child who witnessed it and I am mad that my mum didnt leave ... so selfish do you know what the children go through?????

[@jsmith5509]

This man had been beating the neck out of the ex wife and daughter for years. Then they both express surprise that he could violate women. What do they label what he was doing to them???

[@ZieSpiralOut]

I know how the daughter feels... When I was 18, my birth mother told me that I was a product of a rape, but she couldn't deny me my life so she put me up for adoption. I am going to tell y'all straight, I thought it was no big deal, that it didn't happen to me so why should it affect me, but that kind of knowledge seeps into your head. Its a pretty twisted spot to be in. Knowing that half of who you are is a complete psychopath. Its hard to come to terms with even years later.

[@cclovnme]

🙏

[@ezbody]

Not necessarily, if you don't behave like a psychopath, if you don't feel like a psychopath, the you aren't one. You don't even know if the rapist was a psychopath, even then you don't inherit all of the trails of each of your parents, it's a mixed bag, and psychopathy doesn't have to be in it.

[@suzanhodges415]

It’s half of you biologically not half of who YOU are!

[@home4life505]

Reading these comments. Most are focused on the wife and not the murderer🤔

[@hannagibson9970]

Yep true. The murderer was caught and punished.. the wife wasn’t....that’s probably why ppl are picking on her 🤷🏽‍♀️ I agree we should not be focusing anger on the wife .. she’s not the one who committed those murders ☹️🥲 Plus shes suffered a million times over for something she didn’t do 😣😔🙁

[@Americanwoman74]

@@hannagibson9970 yeah but she was naive as hell. Plus she let him walk all over her. Imagine if she would've questioned things. His behavior, etc. It could've prevented some of this because his ass would've been in jail for abuse.

[@punkyshrewster2736]

The criticism of the killer goes without saying; everyone knows he is guilty and he got what he deserved. People are angry and/or frustrated with the wife because she continued to put her DAUGHTER in harms way and failed her maternal responsibility to protect her child. There are many reasons women I abusive relationships do this but that doesn't mean people aren't going to express their anger and frustration when they are reading or hearing about a mother failing to protect her child. The mother was a victim with a choice, the daughter had NO choice at all.

[@AnimeShinigami13]

They don't believe the amount of denial the wife has is why. There are always people like that, people in denial and people who don't believe the denial is possible.

[@Americanwoman74]

@@AnimeShinigami13 i understand how people can be in denial AT 1ST... But for her to go as long as she did not questioning all the things her husband was doing that made absolutely NO sense, tells me she was either wilfully ignorant, (which is similar to denial except that a wilfully ignorant person doesn't WANT to know, whereas someone in denial knows what's going on but can't handle the truth of it and therefore try convince themselves it's not the reality), or dumb as a box of rocks because i can NOT fathom that she could possibly be that naive that she would fall for the things he did. One of the biggest examples of that that i found appalling and made me lose alot of sympathy for her was when she asked her husband why he was wearing the ski mask and he told her it was to protect his face while he was mowing the yard. I mean seriously? Who could accept an answer like that, and expect others to believe she really fell for that explanation? That wouldn't even passed the sniff test with My 11 yr old grandson! So IMO, she either had mental issues of her own, a very low self esteem that caused her to overlook these things her husband was doing because she felt she couldn't get any better, or plain selfishness because she prioritized keeping her relationship with her husband, over the best interests of their daughter. What kind of decent mother would allow her child to be psychologically, emotionally and physically abused just so as not to make waves with her husband? Other than the women her husband killed, she allowed her daughter to be the biggest victim in all that because she could've put a stop to THAT at least.

[@voyaristika5673]

I can't imagine coming to terms with my dad doing this. My dad! I've heard of criminal cases where the children go into uncanny, unbelievable denial. Crystal and her mom are so strong and straight. Don't know how they do it. And reaching out with their story is brave. God bless them.

[@whitneywilson6686]

These two women are so strong. I don’t even know how I’d survive something so traumatic. But these two...I admire them so much.

[@jamiemiesler322]

I feel bad for both women but especially the daughter because she kept going back for more & more & more just wanting love but receiving his hatred & abuse. Very sad.

[@sanddollar252]

Outstanding mother and daughter story of survival and ultimate victory.

[@ina-tajwedwab2486]

I know! I don’t get the judgmental detectives on the comment section acting like they’d solve the crimes and spot the red flags in no time.

[@davidrele]

Ill give her respect for leaving Alot of women just stay. Because they feel trapped and eventually get killed.

[@buggiebuild1]

Finally a comment I can stand behind, it’s easy to say, why did she stay,?you have no idea unless you’re in it✌🏻

[@angieb2790]

He was NOT "stealthy" he was gone days, weeks at a time. I'm not blaming the wife at all but if her eyes were open she'd known something was wrong. And why would you say no to not wanting to know why your husbands in jail?

[@punkyshrewster2736]

Right, like lady, your daughter called you to tell you your husband was running around In a ski mask and the cops went around asking the neighbors questions about a man in a ski mask to raped your neighbor. But he was stealthy.

[@juliacoburn7455]

You are blaming the victim. That is evil

[@mariamacebekhulu2629]

Well she know what is up to

[@angieb2790]

@@juliacoburn7455 that is incorrect.

[@temirab.5891]

Didn’t they say she assumed he was having an affair? Like if my husband was gone not telling me where he was my thoughts would be “he’s cheating on me like I’m not good enough not oh yeah he’s murdering people. And she explained that the police were mocking her and so she said no because of that. It’s no surprise that cops can have certain demeanors to poc and even women. There’s also the chance she assumed it was something stupid or false. Idk you never know what’s going on in someone’s mind when situations like this happen. It’s easier for the public to criticize people and we can’t know everything from this story.

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

OMG WHY did she let her husband abuse her children?

[@keishaskelton9923]

How can we know unless we have experienced the same? No one knows really what they'd do in a situation they have not gone thru..I don't really like to victim blame and she probably will blame herself till the day she dies . That's enough punishment.

[@claricestar47]

As she stated, she didn’t know the extent because she worked and went on business trips. She eventually left. It’s a very difficult situation. The mom was being abused too. When you stand up to an abusive man, instead of being receptive to your feelings, they shut you down with violence and gaslighting. They make you question your reality and make you believe you deserve it and it’s normal. If you’ve never had other relationships or were abused as a child, it’s really easy for them to get in your head. This man was obviously a master manipulator and very scary. Victims always hope the abuser will change. It’s very sad. It’s a horrible way to live.

[@deninejackson2316]

I feel so horrible for the family. His poor daughter

[@Menagerie_K]

The domestic violence was a problem but hanging the doll..... he's sick.

[@WindDancer435]

What a horrible thing for child to witness domestic violence.

[@Katiee0592]

In most of these cases I can understand how the wife isn't able to trust men afterwards, but this woman had plenty of evidence to at least show her this was not a good man, nevermind a murderer. She needs to learn how to trust her self and her intuition.

[@ronfirek5824]

Thank you. You are strong ladies! Keep spreading your courage. Blessings Sincerely Victoria

[@shaylagraca9964]

Just want to say, Thank-you so much! Your videos have come out Perfectly! It's wonderful to watch crime videos where the picture and sound are in perfect sync. Everyone is concentrating on podcasts and not crime videos, and the quality of crime videos are very bad. So I just wanted to Thank-you. I really am enjoying them.👍🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@candacedowds9917]

That mother should have been investigated by CPS. She was so obsessed with him that she willingly left her daughter with the monster. She isnt dumb. She is however very selfish.

[@beverleylumb8048]

And how many times is she going to give that monster another chance. Even now she tries to make excuses for him what happened to him that we don't know about nothing he is was a monster

[@JanBee1122]

I think it's a fair question for a blood relative to want to know. If it was something that happened to him that caused him to become a monster, it's different than being born a monster. That means it's inheritable, and that would be a natural worry to a child of someone like this.

[@Menagerie_K]

When he wore the ski mask but he wasn't skiing...I knew there was some enabling going on.

[@laleona776]

@@Menagerie_K big time! If my daughter told me daddy was walking anywhere around the house and then the neighbor next door had been raped by someone in a ski mask(ESP. THE SAME DAY)? HELLO 👋 WAKE UP!!

[@Sbamabelle]

Until you go through the same type of abuse as these two women did, it's easy for you to sit behind your keyboard and pass judgement Karen.

[@alisong2328]

I think they are both incredibly brave to share their stories.

[@sherrihinton8567]

I'm sorry for the ladies, the victims and the victims families

[@YvetteMejia-ie8ih]

Thank you very much for saying that I'm one of the leading victims of that horrible man my life has never been the same I never knew this was out I was never told this was out honestly I just found out today this is devastating for me still I have not dealt with it I do have nightmares I can't

[@AaronLin721]

The mom is amazing. So well-spoken.

[@denisesander7728]

I don't want to judge, I wasn't there, but if a man ever treated my child like That, he'd be gone! Out! I don't care if you love him! If you end up living under a bridge. You protect your child ahead of everything else

[@denisesander7728]

@John Hicks 'my way' where did I say How? I've been in abusive situations. Don't put words in my mouth. Yes, it is dangerous, but there are ways to protect your child. It's abuse to keep them in a living situation where they are being abused

[@leesadexter7187]

Thank God you both are alive and well! Two beautiful women strong women

[@queeniebee7736]

Wow! Two incredibly strong and healthy women! Surviving and helping others. So happy for them!

[@laleona776]

That's got to be horrible- dreaming (a nightmare) that he's back! The daughter is a strong person- standing up & for your your child as well as protecting them.

[@amywright331]

Both of these women are so strong. You shouldn't judge what you don't know.

[@rubydawn1]

what a monster.I feel for his family and all his the family of his victims.

[@cheyenneharrison4985]

Oblivious? He leaves at night. Leaves for days then abuses your daughter and yourself. Your daughter tells you he has a mask on when he leaves or arrives back home, only to find out a woman is raped literally next door.... I think that’s called being really really stupid and not oblivious.😦

[@sunnymoondog]

Complete denial. They both knew he was seriously violent and messed up.

[@trishg5079]

Totally agree with you

[@steinarlarsen9899]

Exactly, plain stupidity

[@shirleythompson2068]

I don’t believe the mother was oblivious to this. I believe she turned a blind eye to all the obvious signs that he was evil. The mom did NOTHING to help her daughter stay safe when he came home wearing a mask and hearing of a nearby neighbour being attacked, tied up and raped on the same day. Any caring mother would have put two and two together when she hears the neighbours attacker was also wearing a mask. The woman was looking after her OWN needs and not anyone else’s 🤬

[@wilsonjohn9766]

What did she think the blood in the car was about that she cleaned up? You’d think she’d have been done when he told her he thinks about screwing his own Mother.

[@sunnymoondog]

Yes

[@toniacurry1344]

God bless these two woman’s voices 🙏

[@fairhonestjustice7918]

When he went outside of the house in the middle of the night she came good house wive then she knew what happened to her neighbour still she keep her suspicion till he came on her and her daughter yes as they said love is blind. Oh boy mommy is dreaming but that dream was soooo long dream

[@graceyoung3771]

Abuse education should start in elementary school and advance according to age and maturity, as well as anger management. We could substancialy lesson these types of crimes in one generation and bring peace to many generations.

[@jnieswartz4878]

The mom seems extremely intelligent articulate well spoken. So to see how she didn't see anything wrong with the ski mask, rape of neighbor and abuse of his child.

[@awoa2011]

She seems very much so easy to manipulate ..

[@suzanhodges415]

She hardly seems intelligent. She talks a good talk. That’s it. She is as thick as shit!

[@DominiqueRae]

You can be very intelligent and still get manipulated and live in denial. Mental illness do not just affect unintelligent people.

[@catmeow333]

You go in believing you can trust the man you marry, right ?

[@1stAmendmentorDie1776]

How come blacks and browns always get this type of comment? She is a grown human. Of course she speaks well and is intelligent.

[@pokerbob05]

Just the thought of striking a child in that way makes my stomach turn.

[@justanotherperson584]

I’m proud of you momma! You survived too. Very happy Chrystal is married and has a loving husband. I hope momma finds true love too.

[@AR-ko4ht]

It's a miracle that he didn't kill his daughter, only when he attacked the mom she leaves him, I'm sorry but what the hell is wrong with her.

[@bayliedwards6806]

I am sO sorry for Crystal, her mom, and every single person effected by this man And, you 2, are amazing and strong and kind💖 Ty

[@KKKaTTT123]

Honestly...if I hear "just like in the film..." one more time🤦🏼‍♀️ my Gosh!

[@loriepaix6391]

Can't listen to mom spin this tale any longer. She's driving around at night looking for her husband with her young daughter in the car. Repeatedly. He gets arrested and she tells the police that she doesn't want to know why? She picks him up from jail but doesn't ask him why he was arrested or ask to see the paperwork? His car is left on a street known for prostitution, he says that he went to get a hamburger, and she is confused? She didn't know that he was a killer, but she knew he wasn't a good guy and she involved her daughter in the insanity. "Why is my husband going out late at night with a gun?" Ok, answer your own question. What are the possibilities? How many of the answers are innocent and harmless?

[@ElliesChaoticWorld]

When people are abused they don’t think like regular people. You have to put everything into consideration.

[@lotus1695]

She was in total denial

[@ciacole-bandy1716]

Watch her episode on "Evil Lives Here," you will be so annoyed.

[@sunnymoondog]

She absolutely wanted to stay in denial.

[@YvetteMejia-ie8ih]

I am one of the living victims

[@kama4581]

Never live in fear of your spouse,. Go! And never look back, no matter the apologies, kindeness, gifts and roses. Yes people change but will always go back to where they changed from, once in a while onless they admit it and seek help.

[@beverleylumb8048]

It maybe hard to believe it but after the way he treats his family it would not be impossible

[@alisong2328]

I can understand these women. You don't ask questions when you don't really want to know. Finding out someone is a monster would make you question everything.

[@rationallyruby]

This case is bizarre from a victimology standpoint. Not many killers cross race. But he did very easily. It’s also interesting how he killed some of his victims and let other live. He has many organized characteristics but also many disorganized ones. Just an odd dude regardless.

[@Blessedx222]

Yeah he killed the ones that he wasn't satisfied raping smh

[@rationallyruby]

@@Blessedx222 usually they evolve but going back and forth is odd. But victimology has everything to do with it. If he wasn’t getting the reaction he wanted out of the rape he may have felt the need to kill. And it’s also possible he developed personal connections to victims and was able to be manipulated by them to let them live.

[@SheronaJ664]

How is the daughter smart enough to put 2 and 2 together but not the mama 🤔

[@bocacocasky3581]

The wife is off as well

[@mikalin9286]

Yeah abuse and guilt tends to do that to a person?

[@davidrele]

You sound off as well.

[@racheldoesacrylic4089]

When someone changes as if you say the words , he/she is like two different people look into narcissist personality disorder and others/// i never knew what thses behaviours were called you need to know if this is happening to you /god bless

[@debralucas2224]

Absolutely. There is a ton of information available online about narcissist and sociopath disorders. It's good to know the signs to look for, even for every day life

[@SecretSquirrelFun]

And what about the neighbour and the man in the ski mask? William in the ski mask, his daughter seeing him and calling her mother? Did they charge him with that crime?

[@tracymorgan5386]

He tortured you and daughter for years and both of are shocked by his evil actions. It’s frankly undermining my sympathy. Not to mention the disturbing disconnect from the mother, yeah you divorced him but his daughter is still your daughter and his grandchildren is still her grandchildren and she is the one who chose him to be her father, rest assured she will be haunted by it too with her not my problem attitude.

[@bulldog8489]

That's right Momma...Victory not just survival !

[@delorasledge2492]

Her story was on "Evil Lives Here". She looks totally different but her voice is unmistakable. Now she seems too used to telling the story.

[@nicholasvonrhine6311]

The wife could have saved lives when he was found wearing the ski mask.

[@skurkela]

How did this man survived this woman alive? She axed him so many times!

[@dalainebloom4505]

This Young Woman and Daughter is FOR SURE MORE THAN JUST A SURVIVOR!!! She is FANTASTIC!!! She doesn’t seem BITTER OR HATEFUL TOWARDS MEN!!! I am so Happy for Her and Her Mother for becoming Such WONDERFUL, CARING AND SHARING WOMEN AND LADIES!!! I love That They Only want to help Others in their situation get Healthy and live Productive Lives. They help Others to become HAPPY TOO. GOD BLESS ALL OF THAT monster’s VICTIMS!!!👍🏼💕🙏🏽🙏🏽👍🏼👋🏼

[@buggiebuild1]

Thought I heard of all the absolute monsters out there from back in the day, per usual ,this so-called human is up there, I can’t imagine trying to leave someone like this, a complete psychopath ,no feelings inside for anyone,not even his wife & daughter, 😥I’m relieved they got away ,alive🙏🏻

[@ElliesChaoticWorld]

She was his first victim. Her daughter was his second victim. Both of them searched for ways for him to love them better hoping he’d be a better person. The daughter wanted so bad to have a dad and the mom for a moment wanted to be loved thinking he was just cheating and being serviced by prostitutes.

[@jenmb2679]

Ha, i wasnt worried about my bf cheating, i was worried about him killing people! Me included. Took 26 years to finally get him put away and now he's out. Never been scared of anyone else in my life. Im the type of person who isnt usually scared of anything. I worked as security guard at night outside downtown. I was the only girl in security there. That's funny because so many women wanted to be escorted to several parking garages and i was smaller than any of them. I didnt even get any mace. I was useless, lol. Sorry off topic again

[@laurenlester1418]

Please please please try and stay safe

[@Notmehimorthem]

Those women should be so proud of themselves.

[@ellafacebooktruecrimecases3644]

I hate how women allow their children to be abused and don’t protect them.

[@nickiewilson6985]

Elena years wow you get more for possession of pot. The family should always get out when there's abuse or tell someone. Don't fall for psychopath narsacist.

[@stephencullity4964]

Who's idea was it to have the actor keep staring at the camera. Nice touch, intense

[@rhondamcbath6279]

A freaking serial killer only gets Eleven years??? What the hell 😱 is wrong with California's Justice system?? Mandatory Death Penalty!!! Yep, should have been sent to San Quintin along with the other 900 already sitting on death roll in this screwed up state!!!

[@steinarlarsen9899]

He got the death pemalty for the murders when he was doing the 11 years for rape

[@pamela3164]

I closed my eyes every time I saw that actors face

[@ber9313]

This is hard to watch. Denial is no joke.

[@onebadasian]

Being a murder documentary, every time she says "ask (axed him)", i keep on thinking she's gonna kill someone.. 😆

[@rationallyruby]

I’m honestly appalled by all the people here blaming the mom and daughter for the actions of this narcissistic abusive piece of shit. He was a master manipulator that fooled the cops for years yet some have the nerve to blame a battered wife and their young child? Y’all should be ashamed.

[@PineBaskets]

Happy that mom and daughter move forward, good thoughts to u both

[@leesadexter7187]

Girl I cannot believe like I mean it not believe that you moved back in with this lunatic! Why would you do that?!

[@Det1911]

These families are so delusional

[@terrygause29653]

“Just like Hong Kong Phooey, William was good at sneaking around in the dark.”

[@catmeow333]

Alice, you’re a good brave woman. It certainly does take a village my sister.

[@placidpond]

Your strength is beautiful.

[@AHD2105]

Lovely family...apart from the dad. The mother did a very admoral job through it all.

[@dancontreras2104]

Seriously, this mother and daughter couldn't believe the things this man did? "this cannot be true" says his daughter, and the mother was like; "No way", yet when he lived with them, after he beats them up half the time, they see this man leave the house with a freaking gun in his back pocket, like he's carrying a wallet. This mother and daughter have serious issues, I hope they get counseling for the rest of their lives. -dc

[@sunnymoondog]

Right

[@DropShotTho_t]

Both ladies are so sweet 🥺

[@ellafacebooktruecrimecases3644]

Letting a man abuse your child

[@dancontreras2104]

To whomever is seeing this, and know this man's daughter and his wife. Please don't get with these women, they're so in denial, that if they get into a relationship, whomever they get into a relationship with is not going to have a nice ride. These women aren't even upset, that's scary. -dc

[@dancontreras2104]

@Each one teach one I don't have to know, they've already expressed it themselves. Then you go and date one of them, if you feel so strongly about them. -dc

[@braeutchen41]

Poor Momma.....poor little girl.......🥺😔

[@michaelwinters7415]

Makes you wonder why we have a police force, only a thought🤔

[@fairmaiden6472]

wouldnt you be wishing your family had never moved into that street lol

[@GuppyDundee]

Two cars whoop de doo

[@sunnymoondog]

These two are very strong women and I'm glad they are ok, but OMG they are and were in DENIAL. So many gigantic red flags plus obvious, serious abuse in their faces and they were STILL in denial. :(

[@aliinwonderland656]

Idc what she says the wife absolutely knew that he had something to do with the neighbors rape. She turned a blind eye to things hoping to save the marriage.

[@aliinwonderland656]

@Keisha Williams just because you’re pretending something isn’t happening to cope, doesn’t mean you’re not aware. Again, she knew.

[@Monk-eee]

I cant stand when people pronounce it am-ba-lance .... there is a whole "U" in there that people forget about! amb U lance.. just a pet peev of mine

[@Phillis22]

It amazes me when people who has known a psycho is always seeking answers to why they did it, was there a reason behind their evil actions...after knowing a psychopath and studied them for 8 years I came to conclusion that they are what they are and they simply enjoy what they are doing. Most of them are born like that and the best one can do is stay away from these non human beings.

[@hatchettharley3186]

Well, I mean when it comes to a daughter and a father, it's difficult to accept that your dad was just born evil so there's that. In general, people always look for the cause of psychopathy/ anti social behavior because it goes against what we see as normal. Scientists try to find out what the environment had to do with versus Biology. Regardless of what causes it, I feel that once we know people sufferer from these disorders, they should be closely monitored and once they break the law, incarcerated.

[@Phillis22]

@Keisha Williams yes, I understand that but it has been years and they still seeking answers which makes me really sad. How can one recover?

[@Phillis22]

@Keisha Williams I watched a documentary where a psychopath dad tried everything. He was a great dad did everything he could but his son became a serial killer. To blame parents is not way forward because many of these psychos had brilliant parents... İ hope they will find a cure soon. I'm following Dr. Robert Hare...

[@mazzaf7575]

@@hatchettharley3186 There’s very good research that shows a large number of type A personalities who are very successful in business have sociopathic traits/are sociopaths. Being a sociopath doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll become a murderer but it might make you a CEO.

[@CopingwithGrattitude]

These types lack empathy. Therefore they are unaffected by the harm they cause to anyone. I agree with the other commentor, although from what I understand they derive fuel from attention-from the reaction to their atrocious behaviors. They are an empty void without normal human emotion so they gain a sense of purpose by manipulating the emotions of other. Not just through violence but also by seeking pity or by disingenuous charm. No contact is the ONLY way to interact with one. Upon recognizing the pathology you must get away and stay away. They are very good at being two different people at the same time. False identity is a common place Sociopathic trait. This guy appears to be a psychopath!

[@Shawnx-jb7sv]

This is so messed up all around! 7:20 She claims that she did all she did all she could do for him to compensate for her inability to be "intimate with him"! He is deserving of the crime he has committed! BIG TIME!!! The wife is whacked as well! She is proud that she cooked, cleaned and was instrumental in the raising of their daughter. How can she be proud of essentially abandoning the physical needs of her husband? She never "made him", but she is not any woman that I, or anyone I know would want to be in a relationship with! She too is a "fail"!

[@Inlegzwords]

Alice and Krystal worked my damn nerves

[@Tm-ox7bo]

I mean really Alice really. She is just annoying

[@fairmaiden6472]

He loved you? he had to be in jail before he apologised for his violence towards you and you then knew he loved you?????

[@fairmaiden6472]

@Keisha Williams I totally "have some idea" as I had an extremely abusive childhood myself thanx. And the second half of your comment is me exactly

[@rationallyruby]

@@fairmaiden6472 if you’ve had an abusive and traumatizing childhood you should have some empathy for this kid...

[@fairmaiden6472]

@@rationallyruby I dont pretend my father loves me when with actions like his he clearly doesnt

[@rationallyruby]

@@fairmaiden6472 great for you but I’m sure that realization was over a period of time. Most people with empathetic traits don’t want to give up on people even when they should. Doesn’t mean they’re stupid or bad people.

[@fairmaiden6472]

@@rationallyruby I said nothing of the sort. This is just you inventing things and putting words in other peoples mouths for your own pleasure

[@NolaCulturePt]

She should have been left from how he was treating her daughter