I'm Fed Up.

Today I give an update on the Ineos Grenadier and what we are going to do with our Toyota Land Cruiser!
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[@bradbaraniuk4085]

you change vehicles more often than i change my underwear

[@jeromerusselldemusicologist]

Very funny!

[@chucklesthefireguy5356]

content! Write-off too.

[@dman2289]

No kidding every other month is another car.

[@hellocar123]

old stolen joke

[@Lowcountrygod]

You don't want a toyota because of reliability, but you want another land rover?

[@sunchaser999]

Haha. If there were ever a lease only brand it would be Range Rover.

[@scittw22]

His whole discussion in his recent videos isn't reliability. It's been Toyota failing to honor their warranty

[@Mjk86]

@@Art-si7cjlmao. Good one

[@kevs2good133]

@@sunchaser999jaguar as well

[@octaviodominguez7772]

He just explained land rover cover everything while Toyota just blamed him so which one gives you a better piece of mind?

[@jerryclleung]

GX 460??? It’s smooth as butter and great V8???!!!

[@HouseHunt365]

Don’t worry about what other people think and buy whatever makes you happy!

[@Bajablast_scuba_cat]

Should get the GMC Yukon AT4 with the diesel. Would be so awesome for high altitude living like you guys!

[@octoslut]

eww gmc

[@francisrivers1111]

Just get an old school 4runner or GX460 and call it a day.

[@rogercabello918]

You need a Tahoe, Yukon or last GEN 4 runner if you want to just put gas and change tires and batteries just saying that’s the way it’s been for me for over 20 years and by the way, my personal drivers an F150 (the suburban Tahoe Yukon is the SUV all SUVs in the world still strive to be)

[@c141charlie]

All of this buying and selling cars is going to ruin you financially. KZbin revenue will never compensate you enough to make up for the losses.

[@georgetown8986]

Here is a sentence only the infamous Ben Hardy can utter with a straight face....."I'm going to get a Landrover because it makes a lot of sense."

[@BenHardyCars]

LOL

[@AnontheGOAT]

Why would the grenadier have a check engine light? It has the venerable B58 in it. Same engine that’s in the Toyota Supra.

[@fritty9927]

Anyone who knows anything about cars knows any Rover is a money pit. Only rich folks who can buy new one every couple years buy those pieces of crap. Take it from a guy who’s worked on cars for 50 plus years.

[@johnwebb2232]

If it's the lack of power on the 4runner that's keeping you back, put the pedal commander in it. I installed one in my 2016 4runner, and it makes a big difference. The 4runnner has never been a speed demon or a prius, but she always excels at everything else. I love my 4runnner and couldn't see myself in anything else except maybe the new land cruiser. Good luck with your choice.

[@jimmulderig743]

4 runner

[@KPHVAC]

2023 or 2024 Toyota 4Runner is probably the only super reliable choice!

[@davidnuxoll7074]

@@KPHVAC why pay the “Toyota tax”?

[@KPHVAC]

@@davidnuxoll7074 I think the current generation 4Runner might be the most reliable SUV you can buy right now. It's an older V6 engine that has been around for over a decade. Toyota is not doing well with the new turbo engines and the Toyota tax isn't worth it on a lot of the newer models.

[@chinoyhouse8247]

I have a 2023 4runner limited I have a rusting issue in the rear lift gate. I was disappointed because the car is made in Japan I was expecting that it is 100% flawless.

[@KPHVAC]

@@chinoyhouse8247 Dang, maybe everything made in the last 5 years is junk? I see so many 4Runners in my area.

[@jasonfreilich866]

Why dont you just get a Lexus GX 460? You dont need to get the 550 obviously. The GX460 will be better than the 4Runner at that higher altitude and is a bit more old fashioned as you said your wife likes

[@masamunexc]

Nothing from ford or GM? Something like a Tahoe ?

[@SeanMather]

I wish I could afford a Tahoe/Suburban, it drove real nice when I test drove it.

[@canopener505ify]

He just got rid of a Bronco Raptor

[@sunchaser999]

I don’t think he’s interested in large size SUVs yet.

[@BenHardyCars]

If GM made a real blazer

[@MS-mr4zm]

Dude just get a Yukon w/ AT4 package & 6.2 or the diesel, if you get the 6.2 do a tube shutoff the AFM & you’ll be good to go

[@MS-mr4zm]

@@user-tb7rn1il3q I’ve had 2007, 2014, 2015, gm/chevy trucks, & a 2008 G8 GT, the ‘08 & ‘15 both had issues developed tick dropped lifter/valve etc - if you want to keep it long term regardless how good the tech is now the longevity will be better by disabling it. Same thing w/ auto start/stop BS….what do you think is easier on a starter/plugs/ignition etc- cranking up 1-3x a day, or 100x a day?😂😂😂

[@nat3198]

if you want a defender, i suggest the 130 for big families because that car has a usable third row and good cargo space

[@sgt.grinch3299]

I recommend a 2023 Armada Platinum. V-8 power and zero issues.

[@kevin122759]

Chevy Tahoe or Dodge Durango RT. The only 2 suv's I would consider.

[@jonluchessi1643]

Hey Ben if your grenadier is a harsh ride play around with your tire pressure is experiment with that it will help the ride also if you can determine the proper length of your shocks collapsed and extended you can install an adjustable shock for example fox 3.0 shocks would make that vehicle so comfortable to drive also TeraFlex falcon has the 3.5 automatic adjustable shocks which would work similar to the bronco raptor but of course lesser tech that would be another option to increase some comfort for you. You’re very fortunate to have a grenadier dealership in your area I think that’s the biggest problem with the grenadier is if you buy one it could be 1000 miles from a dealership I’m in Northern California and the closest dealer would be about 500 miles away which is just too far hopefully they can get more dealerships.

[@texandy89]

You could also get the previous generation Sequoia with the 5.7 liter V8

[@Lee-zk8vu]

I've had my G05 BMW x5 since new in 2019 with B58 inline 6, the first year of that generation. It's actually been very reliable with exception of hydrolic bushing failure--which shouldn't have happened. Not super boxy, but it does everything very well, and engine is great. No issues for a busy Mom whatsoever. I've had a good experience FWIW, and it's in your price range as well.

[@Jay-bw3fl]

The center stack on the grenadier reminds me of my grandpas old 82 ford econoline van. Love it

[@segiv4860]

4Runner 2024 all the way. But I get your point being a high altitude. I live in Florida, and I do not feel that lag too much. However, I got a 4runner 2024 and it is like driving a tank with out al the bells and whistles that prompt to break in newer vehicles.

[@tonyburdette9848]

Land Rover Discovery.. ..Mine has air ride adjustable, Supercharged 6 cyl, floats and off road, has lockers... why pay the high price for Defender when youre getting 90% for much much less?

[@FinancialStorm7]

Get the Bugatti Turbillion. pretty much does everything the toyota does

[@troyheffernan1261]

Let me make a suggestion. Buy a auto with great warranty and a dealer near by. I have a TRD pro 4 runner 2023 model. 4.0 naturally aspirated . Less issues. But we go camping. Up into the mountains. And you can get electric side step for your child.

[@crushbaseball4270]

Maybe a 2025 Chevy Tahoe Z71 with the 3.0 L turbo diesel, Duramax?

[@nchighwayman]

5th Gen 4Runner while you can still get it. How fast do you really need it to be? It's worth the trade off for the old school reliability. Maybe let her drive a Limited. I have a 24 Pro and Got my wife a 24 Limited. She likes her Limited much better than my pro.

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

Used GMT900 Yukon/Tahoe well used...or a K2XX and covert into a overlanding vehicle. 2500s are good as well, but have horrible fuel economy. A Patrol/ Armada or a QX80 will be a good value as well as an overlander...

[@suhailns3688]

I think Mercedes is good for you in the meantime, GLS or GLE. Or go full luxury and buy a G550 2024. Luxury and V8 and iconic. Hope the best for you guys, god bless you and your family.

[@CarGeek360]

The GLE and GLS are bad options due to horrible build-quality, G-Wagon is amazing

[@thorsmith9545]

I would get a 24 4-Runner PRO and get a Magnson supercharger installed with a tune. It will perform way better.

[@douglasross3488]

I have a 2023 Defender 110 P400 and have had zero issues. I bought it off-lease and the previous owner had zero issues. Sure, it’s early days yet and I will never own this vehicle without the extended insurance, but my wife and I love this machine. If you go this route, I hope it works out well for you.

[@tpike46w]

You do know the Land Rover is one of the most unreliable vehicles built

[@DG-uu9bz]

Have you ever had one? If you had, you'd probably think the extra 2 problems per hundred vehicles is worth it. Haven't had more than a handful of problems with my 2013 LR4, and I'd be happy to spend another $20,000 on a $10,000 vehicle because nothing out there now really compares to it.

[@Brandon_Rivera]

Not accurate. I’ve had several Land Rovers and Range Rovers for the past 25 years. Very minimal issues. My 2022 Defender 90 has been perfect for 50k miles wouldn’t trade it for any of these new vehicles.

[@DG-uu9bz]

Me too! 7 since 1995. Now it's true that the old county's were quite the pain. P38s were much better. But the LR3/LR4s have been close to perfect.

[@georgetown8986]

@@tpike46w I was foolish enough to own 3 new Range Rover Sports in the past. I have never owned/leased a more unreliable vehicle in the history of vehicles. The depreciation was beyond ridiculous during the first year and beyond. I never made it past 5,000 miles on each. Something I learned: you cannot build wealth owning Land Rover products. They are only for flash and frankly, they offput most people who see you in it. Definitely wouldn’t drive around clients or the office.

[@raquelortega2383]

@@DG-uu9bz I noticed so many people have a negative opinion about Land Rover but yet, NONE of them have NEVER owned one. I've only driven Land Rover for 15 years and to be honest I didn't have any major issues. I currently have the Defender and I love it (been 2 years so far so good)...

[@beepingbeep]

Get a pilot trailsport not only it will have some off road capability it would also be a good family car

[@BillyBobTup]

It just dawned on me: I am not hearing these complaints about the Hondas. I have 30+K on a 21 Ridgeline, after 13 years in an 08. My son has that one, since 21. Zero problems with either. True, the clearance and angles are crap. But some folks lift them and add larger tires and skid plates. Both of mine have been superb on ice and in snow up to 6 or 8". I'm going to post this in it's own comment.

[@owenperry9937]

used GX would be a good buy. Maybe a 2022.

[@BillyBobTup]

It just dawned on me: I am not hearing these complaints about the Hondas. I have 30+K on a 21 Ridgeline, after 13 years in an 08. My son has that one, since 21. Zero problems with either, super reliable. I even towed a 4500 lb travel trailer with the old one. Didn't break, was able to do the speed limit. True, the clearance and angles are crap. But some folks lift them and add larger tires and skid plates. Both of mine have been superb on ice and in snow up to 6 or 8". Also, maybe the new Pilot trail model?

[@arnick2]

IF you are looking for a solid vehicle and not going to take it off road because you have the Grenadier - have you looked at the new Mazda CX90 or CX70? By all accounts very reliable and comfortable. Food for thought.

[@eighty6films]

You should get a Peugeot or Citröen instead The new landcruiser is blowing up?!? Haven’t heard that one yet.

[@shawnm3757]

The Mercedes E450 All Terrain would be a more fun to drive alternative for the garage. 0-60 in 4.6, 31 mpg hwy, 375 hp with AWD, and good ground clearance. It's also ironically cheaper than most of the other options suggested. A Defender and an Ineos seem like redundant options.

[@erikbenitez7640]

Get a semi used TRD pro 4runner, or wait for the new Gen 4 runner. I just heard you should never just run it shortly like turn it on and then turn it off for like 30 sec. Always run it for at least 5 minutes so fuel doesn’t build up on the heads, and that’ll last you 300,000 plus miles, with minimal repairs

[@captainbudross3674]

Ben, what was the check engine light issue on the Grenadier? How did that get resolved?

[@landbarron1420]

Dodge Durango GT plus. Keyless and everything else. Ordered my second one in 2023. 44K. zero issues with either one. Still have the first one at 115K miles, zero issues.also reasonably priced.

[@TheHighline1]

Wagoneer or a Cadillac Escalade with the 3.0L diesel!!!!!

[@edwardnelson3413]

Random question, is the 3.0 diesel reliable as well how often to you need to fill the def? Thank you

[@bostonaviation2010]

@@edwardnelson34133.0 diesel is extremely reliable. My 2019 has 133k miles no issues.

[@marcuswright8418]

GM/Chevy has upped their reliability, try them out?

[@BenHardyCars]

They don’t have anything cool😆

[@bostonaviation2010]

@@BenHardyCarsnew 2025 Yukon at4??

[@SuperBacDoc]

@@BenHardyCars, Tahoe High Country is extremely cool especially with ventilated seats 🤙😎😂

[@meadmaker4525]

I think your comment, "When it was working, it was great," pretty accurately sums up the entire Land Rover brand at the moment. If you never plan to own one outside of warranty and you're willing to put up with it constantly having to go into the shop for repairs, then fair enough. You do you. The new Defenders look nice and ride nice, so it's easy to forget they're the least reliable vehicle on plant earth. But if the dealer takes good care of you and you're happy, then that's all that matters. I don't blame you for wanting to ditch Toyota. The whole "Toyota reliability" thing has been a cult myth for quite a while. My parents have been Toyota fans since the '80s. Literally won't drive anything else. This is despite several models over the decades consistently failing out from under them, and the dealerships have treated them like something stuck on the bottom of their shoe. I haven't owned one, but I understand the outgoing Infiniti QX80 is a pretty good, reliable, comfortable vehicle that would suit your wife's needs well. And most of them are pretty heavily marked down at the moment, to make way for the new, more expensive model. Just a thought. Style matters, too, so maybe it's not your (or her) thing. I'd also say the current Mercedes GLS would be a good option. They appear to have better reliability than the outgoing version (2019, I think), and certainly better than Land Rover. And it's still a classy ride. There's so much choice out there nowadays, it would be easy to get lost in it all. Hope you find something that makes you both happy, in the end.

[@brianh5393]

Simple is better... The 5th gen 4runner is just that! My advice is if you want something fancy it will come with higher maintenance cost. I would stick with the Land Cruiser. Fix the issues and keep up with the maintenance. It will reward you in the end.

[@texandy89]

Get the last generation 4 Runner and calling it a day

[@ThunderRunner]

I don’t get this…he’s had all his issues with the previous gen Land Cruiser, so 4Runner wouldn’t necessarily be any better?

[@texandy89]

@ThunderRunner it's called either don't complain and suck it up or pick your poison. Or maybe stop and think about outside of Toyota what others are out there the Bronco or Explorer is another Jeep Grand Cherokee or get the previous Generation Sequoia from Toyota with the 5.7 Liter V8 in it. I will say every auto maker is gonna have problems so you won't find one brand that's totally reliable because look at Toyota now with their new vehicles.

[@ThunderRunner]

@@texandy89 again, strange take, the Land Cruiser he has is using the same 5.7l that the previous gen sequoia is. His whole point here is that he doesn’t want another Toyota or Lexus because of all the issues he’s had with models that have supposedly been bullet proof. Seems strange to recommend another of the same. But to your point it is a roll of the dice and about playing the reliability numbers, he’s just frustrated that Toyota corporate has been so terrible to deal with on the sunroof issues.

[@texandy89]

@@ThunderRunner then don't option one with a sunroof then their won't be problems

[@cincy9381]

What about a palisade or Telluride? The Palisade Calligraphy is really nice for what it is. I've got a 17 Sonata, and have had a few issues but all covered under the warranty without hassle. You can get a Hyundai extended warranty 10yr/125k mile for like $1600 and it covers basically everything. I've got that warranty on my Sonata and they have covered every issue it's had. All issues have been minor. People always crap on Hyundai/Kia reliability, but I've always had good experiences. I don't think anyone builds a 25 year vehicle anymore sadly. If you get 10 years you're lucky. Nothing is built like it used to be. I keep vehicles for 8 to 10 years and 100,000-120,000 or so and then trade them off.

[@rickrhodes4788]

I enjoyed the content today, We just started a deep cleaning process on our 2000 Jeep Cherokee XJ. Cheers from Texas. I hope you can find a good unit to drive with minimal issues.

[@jerryball9667]

I have a 2008 200 series Landcruiser with 376,000 miles and no issues, maybe you have just had super terrible luck. That being said, I would say 4runner would be great, or like others have said I would go GX 460 and that V8 will treat you great as far as power goes with your elevation. Land Rover are fine as long as you truly expect to work on it.

[@martindetels880]

Have had 4 Land Rovers. Nothing like them. None have been unreliable, including my 2008 FFRR, which we still have. Stay up on maintenance, Premium fuel, avoid big wheels and tech options and you will be fine. Plus, the loaners are usually awesome 😅

[@aarongerman7857]

i've never heard of all these problems with the 200..I own 2 of them. deep into the IH8MUD..so odd you've been screwed so bad

[@vipraz119]

Ben.. i know many people with 200 series SUVs n none of them have this issue. Im telling u its the wrap.. either its not sealing with the sunroof n letting more water in or some install error. Why did u wrap them anyways?

[@BenHardyCars]

It’s not the wrap

[@dantimber]

@@BenHardyCars Blocked drain?

[@jonathanpinkett5439]

You are right about influencers showing their face 80% of the time and not the product they are trying to review.

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Nice reveiw all new cars are subject to anything goes wrong replace the Toyota with the great ascent Subaru

[@nixx8840]

Maybe try a used Rivian R1 S you can get them for a really good deal nowadays and still can do all the off road

[@wanted-33]

Just remember, with a Land Rover it's not will it break, it's when it breaks. Unless you're going to rid yourself of the LR before the warranty runs out, you may want to rethink that decision. I know it's a Stellantis vehicle, but the Darango R/T comes with those little needed options like keyless entry. And it's a Hemi. Just a thought. Now, everyone can get their flame throwers out. 😁

[@jayteesgear]

This is so cool! Its like a day in the life of Ben and his ol lady’ 🎉! The cold hard truth. She shoulda joined you

[@troyheffernan1261]

The only thing I don't like about your auto, is the handling. I can't stand slop in the steering.

[@dantimber]

You're really limited in choices because of your preference for boxy off-road capable vehicles with some luxuries. Plus you live at a high altitude which likely means forced induction or a V8 because you want road performance. The former is going to be more complicated and less reliable. Whatever you decide I'd suggest passing on a sunroof and passing on modifications to the suspension and big wheels and tires. Keeping it stock and holding down speeds off-road in addition to regular maintenance are probably the most important things you can do to minimize problems.

[@shagy9560]

ACURA MDX OR MAZDA CX-90?

[@user-vp4kl6eo5k]

Would the V8 Defender be more reliable than the P300 or P400 ?

[@BenHardyCars]

Probably, but it’s too expensive

[@jasonknight5863]

Why not go for a used low mileage G-Wagon 550 ??

[@BenHardyCars]

Wife hates them sadly

[@jasonknight5863]

@@BenHardyCars mine did too I just showed her pictures of all the Hollywood stars and elite who drive them. Now she has come around to liking them especially the jacked up 4X4! She said it was “too boxy and old fashioned” before. But that is what I love. I just got a low mileage S124 Mercedes 1995 Station Wagon E320. Love it !!! 😍

[@jonluchessi1643]

Of all your 4 x 4‘s I’ve always liked the bronco raptor the best and second to that the jeep 392. 👍

[@Blue-moon12]

Genesis GV80. I own a 2018 G80 Sport with 190k kms. Never missed a beat. But I also own a 2000 Buick Lesabre and a 2023 Frontier Pro 4x.

[@proudam3969]

I suggest getting a new Cadillac Escalade ESV

[@markmcc1]

I have an LC100, LX570, 17 RR, and 97 D90. Bought and Sold the Grenadier within 3 months and just bought a 15 G-Wagon. The G Wagon is getting all of my attention right now and love the way it drives. Unlike the Grenadier, I feel like the G Wagon can be a daily driver.

[@BenHardyCars]

I daily drive the grenadier and love it

[@Livefreewhileucan]

Love your content Ben. But I agree with other comments. Vehicles will keep you broke. Buy one, and drive the wheels off

[@LIvey-fv8ct]

Lexus also has airbag issues. 2021 RX350 has a recall for passenger airbag possibly not deploying.

[@darkMeluca]

"When it was working it was great" says everything you need to know about owning a Land Rover. Go with the 4Runner. I just bought a '24 TRD ORP (after trading a TRD OR with 170k miles and absolutely no issues) - great value, excellent build quality, supreme reliability, high resale, and if being a little underpowered is its only flaw I'd say that's a pretty good trade for the overall peace of mind you'll get in return.

[@ThunderRunner]

I don’t get this… he had all of his issues with the previous gen Land Cruiser - why would the 4Runner be any better? LC had just as good if not better reputation than the 4runner

[@darkMeluca]

​@@ThunderRunnerAre you assuming newer 4Runners have the same issue? I haven't heard anything about that being the case. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but mine is that the 4Runner is a better value than LCs, Wranglers, and Land Rovers.

[@ThunderRunner]

@@darkMeluca no I’m not implying that…but I am saying the LC has just as good if not a better reputation than the 4Runners in terms of build quality and reliability. Who’s to say he won’t run into issues with a 4Runner that the manufacturer won’t stand behind like he did with the lc?

[@bradfeller4995]

Don't you still have the 392? If so, grenadier and 392...done

[@BenHardyCars]

I’ll be selling the 392 most likely

[@CarGeek360]

@@BenHardyCarsyou’re selling the 392 and LC or just the 392? The Ineos is really cool but def get something from a mainstream company (that’s family friendly) for the other car

[@SeanMather]

You say you love Jeeps, what about the big boy Wagoneers?

[@BenHardyCars]

Too big

[@teslatecher3415]

What about a minivan? Chrysler Pacifica, Honda Odyssey, Kia Carnival? Or get another Wrangler, or Gladiator.

[@timberlinecline3667]

What about a pre owned g wagon I am not saying get the AMG but consider it

[@N9IBZED]

Have you thought about getting a Wagoneer either the regular or the L That might do ok

[@nate.adv282]

New Wagoneer with carbide trim and tow package!

[@aymanlockhartable]

Take a chance with Ford Expedition Timberland.

[@CarGeek360]

That’s an amazing choice, I was gonna suggest it too, but it would probably be too big for off-roading, it won’t have the driving dynamics of the Defender either (as expected tbf)

[@danielyi543]

2024 Nissan Armada or 2023 Armada V8 Platinum. You could get reasonable discount upto 10K. take a look

[@femidawodu5514]

Dude, You guys are just HIGH MAINTENANCE and you don't even recognize it 🙄 ! Get a a Lexus GX (Preowned) save the difference and invest the difference and call it a day😅😮

[@StabEDealin]

I think this guy has money problem lol. Not the lack of, but too much extra to need to stick with something like most of us. I’m sticking with my 2011 Land Cruiser because it’s had zero issues. Absolutely zero problems. Sorry to hear of your struggles. I’d recommend going older instead of newer. My 2000 911 was also extremely reliable, more maintenance items sure, but still never left me stranded.

[@CaliAAA72]

It really doesn’t matter what you get because with three months you will come up with an excuse to get rid of it.

[@Seashed]

Mazda CX-90, upper trim. Luxurious, quick, reliable, plenty of room.

[@UtuShamash]

Just get a base model land cruiser if possible with steel wheels. No electronics or very few and no sunroof.

[@planetfabulous5833]

Ben is prettier than most other YTubers!

[@blasdelagarza5292]

Love my Defender P400 SE! Just drove from central Texas to Orlando Florida…

[@Seashed]

Why get a 4Runner Pro? Has a sunroof, bad, impeccable reliability, good. Get a TRD Off Road trim. Your worried about your families safety, why do you want them driving in a fast vehicle?

[@ralphdixon6207]

Have you ever driven a Cadillac Escalade off road??????I have wow.love'u man

[@rod7434]

Would never buy a car designed and made by a contract company, not the OEM.

[@tylerr1821]

Nissan Armada or Infinity QX 80 with the V8 if you have the cash. I've had my Armada for a few years now and had good luck with it so far.

[@chucklesthefireguy5356]

Wait for the new Xterra. I LOVE my Pro4X. 22.8 MPG combined and best in class HP. The Xterra should be nice too.

[@Scorpio1075]

2024 Honda Passport Black. Used Rivian R1S.

[@zxtenn]

It's SAD when you spend a boat load of $$$$$ for something that is plagued with issues and to make it worse NOT covered under warranty! All i can say is my 2023 RAM 1500 Classic Warlock is 100% flawless, i didn't buy it to be a drag racer and compared to my 2023 Tuscon which would slowly make it up a hill from a start the 3.6 is fine, i was thinking of a Frontier but i don't want to take a 10-12 grand loss and when i closed the tailgate it seemed pretty flimsy. I had an SV as a rental for 3 weeks, that 3.8 is a great engine, any car is give and take, i was thinking of picking up a Versa or Sentra for a everyday vehicle? I see LOTS on FB with HIGH miles so that means the engine and even the CVT does have a long lifespan, i see the Versa is available with a 5 speed.

[@dantimber]

Do you have the 5.7 hemi in the Warlock?

[@zxtenn]

@@dantimber NO, 3.6 it was on the lot and i don't tow so the 3.6 is fine for me but It has the tow package, 355 gears w limited slip, fogs, power rear window, power seats, upgraded seats, tow hooks, push to start, etc. They took off over 9K and its paid for, no regrets.

[@ajjones977]

Ben, I would’ve agreed with you the old look & glasses, but with the long hair & beard you are a little pretty. Like that charismatic Mormon commune leader pretty. And that’s coming from a hetero black male!

[@BenHardyCars]

Lol

[@martin-ot]

What about a Mercedes G-wagen?

[@Hengsha]

has she test driven a honda passport or pilot? they would be easier for wrangling kids/groceries ect and you already have the grenadier for offroading

[@ansonklock]

So you've gotten used to the funky steering on the INEOS? Only thing holding me back vs. LR new Defender.

[@jimmyj5099]

You want to get a very nice vehicle that's good for all around stuff? Get a Honda Ridgeline 👍

[@ellerybice3787]

Either a Nissan nv 4x4 passenger van or a Sprinter passenger van. Lots of room for multiple swakers.