I'm Going To Tell My Brothers Girlfriend How He Cheated 4 Years Ago r/Relationships

[@madambutterfly1997]

Struggling with your sexuality is no excuse to hurt people.

[@lauraanderson8785]

I'm disgusted by the amount of people A) rationalising cheating, making excuses for the brother, and blaming OP for potentially "ruining their relationship" (the brother ruined it, not OP), and B) bullying a minor like that! OP is a kid and was an even younger kid when she witnessed the cheating.

[@CircusoftheMoon]

I’m not trying to be one of “those people” to say this, but I listen to a lot of these stories. It always seems like with Reddit cheating women should be burned at the stake like a witch and if you don’t tell her husband you deserve to burn with her, but with men cheating it’s ✨causing drama✨ or ✨none of your business✨ (Again, this is just from my experience with these stories and Reddit. It may not be universal.)

[@JB-bl6qo]

@@CircusoftheMoonno but seriously

[@erickaennis2738]

​@CircusoftheMoon You are not wrong. Men are always given a pass. Women are even expected to forgive and get over it. Plus, it would be a real shame if the brother is closeted and using her as a beard. I think she should be told so that she can make an informed decision. She deserves the right to find someone else better for her. NTA.

[@redonyx5428]

story 1 is prime example of Reddit being absolutely brain-dead. op was a young child when she found out . her brother is extremely self hating but it doesn't excuse his behaviour edit: I wonder how stupid those commenters feel when it came out that the brother was a serial cheater throughout his relationship on-top of his internal homophobia. the ex gf was his beard ffs ane deserved better hormones my ass.

[@dream6562]

No reddit don't care how old you are the judgments are the same, which is good we need consistency

[@fluidwolf]

​@@dream6562 That doesnt make sense tho. You can't expect a preteen child to be able to make mature adult decisions so it doesnt make sense to judge them like an adult. That isnt being consistent that is being stupid. These same people were also giving the homophobic serial cheater a pass because "hormones". So OP as a child is treated as in the wrong for. Ot doing the correct thing right away but the older brother who is the actual problem in the story is perfectly fine because

[@jodieisnotokay]

I think the entire family are arseholes. the brother and parents for obvious reasons, but the way op handled this situation is also terrible. she knew it was wrong the moment she saw it and kept it a secret for 4 years, she watched the relationship grow and didn't think of saying anything. and in her own words, wanted to say something more out of spite, she seems incredibly petty and spiteful

[@lovelysakurapetalsyt]

​@@jodieisnotokay she was TWELVE. She also said she thought they were broken up when it happened for a while, and only realized recently they weren't

[@jodieisnotokay]

@GemsOfLilyheart-WSP you're not giving 12 year olds enough credit, she 100% could have said something, plus she didn't recently find out they're still together, she recently found out they're serious enough to be talking about engagement

[@TonySamedi]

"She called me a crazy cat lady that's going to end up alone", the proper response to this SHOULD have been "Well, better alone than with an idiot who spends all our money on NFTs, huh?"

[@eshamek3983]

That or "I won't be alone, I'll have my cats."

[@animefallenangel]

I find it ironic that the sister said that to OP, who is ALSO married.

[@shamimtorang4390]

Golden 😂

[@sabrinahinton1774]

Better alone with a roof over my head is great as well.

[@ineedhoez]

Pahaahahahaha!!!!

[@floraposteschild4184]

"It was just hormones." Sure, Jan. Although the girlfriend should be told, since she'd heard the homophobic remarks and was apparently okay with that, my pity is limited. After update: and big surprise he's still cheating and lying. What a prize.

[@HobieInTheBox]

Lmao this fr

[@ElCid48]

if you are cheating and having sexual relationship, you should tell the ones involve. you may be passing on very bad illnesses.

[@ACAB.forcutie]

​@@ElCid48 as someone who contracted a potentially fatal disease from a cheater, absolutely this.

[@alexandermccalla5098]

also, hormones never made me want to enter my best bro. What nonsense

[@ACAB.forcutie]

@@alexandermccalla5098 ikr 😭 whoops, puberty happened and now I'm suddenly gay 🤣

[@randomusername3873]

I don't understand how internalized homophobia is an excuse It makes the person even more disgusting

[@CRSB00]

It makes them more pahtetic IMO, all those hurtful things he says about queer folk he absolutely feels them about himself and he's deperately trying to be "normal" by sleeping with as many women as he canto show himself he's "not like those others" that also means xheating with his beard-girlfriend. Of course that doesn't excuse him on cheating and bigotry, just the source of it

[@ACAB.forcutie]

I had a fair amount of internalized homophobia. I never said anything hurtful to anyone else, my beliefs were centered entirely on myself. They didn't apply to other people. Awesome to know people online think I'm disgusting and/or pathetic for hating myself for 30 years because society told me I should hate myself.

[@owl7072]

@Amanda Croft I think in the case of it being aimed towards just yourself is a whole other story, and I'm sorry you had to go through that Internalized homophobia is a problem that needs to be addressed regardless, but I feel like it only makes you a bad person when you aim it towards other people like the brother is doing in this story. Aiming it towards yourself is still a bad thing, but I wouldn't say it makes you a bad person as a whole per se as long as you're being honest about not inflicting it on others, it just means you gotta work on caring for yourself like you do for others. I've been busy with other stuff today and my thoughts are a bit jumbled so sorry if this makes no sense or comes off as rude to you or anyone else /gen

[@ACAB.forcutie]

@@owl7072 I get that, but it seems like the people who commented didn't even consider that. I think most internalized homophobia is taken out on the person who has it more than others. I've really struggled with feeling disgusting and pathetic, so to hear people equate internalized homophobia and those words hurt.

[@owl7072]

@@ACAB.forcutie ʕっ• ᴥ • ʔっ hugs

[@owl7072]

Story 1: Not reddit out here accusing Op of just wanting to cause drama. He cheated, she deserves to know that. Doesn't matter if it was the ~hormones~ + he might be closeted and regrets doing so, because you know damn well that if it was a woman, then him responding to the ~hormones~ would be irrelevant and they'd be tearing him a new one. Even then, he _still_ bashes gay people and acts shitty towards them. This is one of those instances where just because _you're_ gay/bi/trans/whatever, doesn't mean you're safe from the consequences of _your_ actions. "He might just be scared to come out" doesn't mean he gets to be a piece of shit and get away with it. I was afraid to come out at one point too, you still wouldn't have caught me cheating or bashing anyone who is/was like me, and considering Op still lives with them despite calling the parents out on their shit, it isn't a full "bash them or get out" scenario, he chose to go that route despite clearly seeing that his sister was fine after not doing so. All of this is deliberate on his part.

[@vanzy01]

💯👍🏿

[@neil999ish]

There is a line in a play "Me thinks he doth protest too much" (Shakespere ?), could this be the case with the brother. Could he be bi? Either way if the gf doesn't know, the bf needs to tell her or some one does, so she can decide wether to keep the relationship or start a fresh.

[@devegas4910]

That’s why whenever someone says “you don’t put anyone EVER”, I respond “*Some restrictions may apply”

[@zerobolt9506]

Gotta love that reddit wanted to bully a kid, I don't get reddit sometimes 😮‍💨 Edit: oh my goodness, the brother was still & had been cheating the whole time & reddit didn't think or care, just told OP to leave it be 🤦

[@neil999ish]

@@zerobolt9506 That is the mindset of a lot of redditor's.

[@randomusername3873]

"It was years ago, if he was loyal since that incident than you should let it go" Oh so we are rewarding dishonesty now, cool. It's fine to cheat as long as you manage to lie about it for enough time Great, I think I'll go cheat on my partner now, after all I can just lie about it and be in the clear

[@ScarabD]

Dude, she was frickin' TWELVE.

[@randomusername3873]

​@@ScarabD I'm talking about the comments

[@dream6562]

​@@randomusername3873 only as long as your faithful after a long amount of time

[@randomusername3873]

​@@dream6562 Nope Cheating once and never coming clean is the same as cheating for the entire relationship No guilt and no respect for the partner

[@dream6562]

@@randomusername3873 I know, I only kidding

[@cutietae247]

I love all of the excuses the commenters come up with for the cheating. Yes you can almost expect relationships at that age to go wrong due to impulse control- but it’s still cheating. Stop coddling people

[@PardonSylver]

I would bet a reddit gold award that they were only defending the cheating because it was a man 🫠

[@anahkit]

Story 1: The people in the Reddit comments who are so willing to overlook the bf making out with his best friend because he was a teen honestly baffles me... I never could understand this logic where you can get away with stupid crap because you're a teen with raging hormones. And I can definitely say this because I met my husband when I was 16 and he was 15, and yeah, guess what? He never went ahead and kissed someone else because he knew there would be no excuse.

[@Azulakayes]

True. Raging hormones don't suddenly cause you to cheat or change your sexuality. OP's brother is at least bi and should own it instead of blowing up at his sister. In any case, even if he isn't, he is an a-hole for being a homophobe.

[@justinecorrington4106]

I definitely agree, but I think a lot is wondering why she waited four years. But honestly the girlfriend should know

[@anahkit]

@@justinecorrington4106 That's true, I do agree that she should have told her earlier once she understood what was happening. But the problem here is everyone is bashing the OP who didn't do anything at the time, while at the same time letting the brother off the hook for cheating, and he was the older one. Those who are blaming OP need to blame the brother as well.

[@justinecorrington4106]

@@anahkit i don’t blame op only because how young she is. I think some wonder if it was a one time thing and don’t really think 13/14 year olds as committed. And op repeatedly saying she doesn’t want get involved but is bringing up something might be a one time thing. But op is 16 and i think she was going with who knows if they are stay together until girlfriend said she wanted an engagement. And if it had been some weird game, then the brother would have hopefully told his girlfriend and this would have been yeah i know. Instead the brother insults was clear it was worse. Reddit was giving a pass because reddit doesn’t think its cheating if they aren’t certain about sexuality l

[@anahkit]

@@justinecorrington4106 Reddit can be very hypocritical at times. The blame solely lies with the brother, OP just happened to witnessed it and she was much younger than her brother. She said at the time she thought they had broken up or something and only realised they were still together all the time, according to her. I don't necessarily blame her but she does have some fault waiting this long, but it's not enough for me to go crazy about it like how Reddit got. Because who knows what would have happened if she decided to tell at that time. She was 12yr old and we don't know if the brother would have harmed her or not, his attitude is quite telling. Heck, we don't even know if the GF would have believed her back then either.

[@EchoJ]

It’s telling when a 16yo has better writing & reading comprehension skills than grown-ass mofos over on Reddit. Berating a 12yo for not telling her bro’s gf what she saw is a new low🙄😂 And all that “I’ve done crazy stuff/experimented when I was 15” was nonsense, as we see w/OP’s bro here. This wasn’t pranking neighbors or going through an ‘emo’ phase. If you’re expressing same-sex attraction as a teen, it’s not “curiosity.” Confusion, is more like it, especially if raised in an intolerant/hostile environment. If you know you’re straight, for example, you aren’t wondering what it’s like to kiss someone of the same gender.

[@geckokid8265]

It's like some of the people in r/Sappho and her friend "I'm not gay, I just want to have sex with people of the same sex" (thinking about it I'm not sure if that's the right subreddit but I can't think of what the right one is)

[@crazypyp5871]

What the hell os wrong with Reddit? What’s a twelve year old going to do when she assumed at the time that they were broken up? Reddit expects far too much of children.

[@witheredrose357]

"dont cause drama, they are happy now" if it's destroyed by the truth, it should be destroyed.

[@PinkMarshmallows]

Story 1: First Reddit says to tell the other person if their SO is cheating, but now they are saying to let it go and are bullying a 16 yr old? Gotta pick a side, Reddit.

[@jusminejustice2794]

I wonder how stupid they feel when they realize the no good excuse of POS has been cheating on his ex GF. Not surprised that OP’s brother had been cheating for 4 years.

[@karendaniel620]

Story 1: OP was 11 when she saw what she saw. She's still a child. Reddit needs to grow up more than OP. ETA: After listening to the entire post, update, and comments, I am raging. How many effing variations of boys will be boys can we get? We just let boys behind a way that's damaging to themselves and others and excuse it as hormones or whatever. I'm so done with this mentality.

[@elkaorvtro9990]

truth

[@kaykay8855]

Story 2: if op’s husband thinks that op should have given her sister money, then he can dip into his bank account and give her the money. NTA.

[@RandomTrinidadian]

Story 1: I dont care if O is in the closet, but he is a first class PoS for cheating on K for so long. OP did the right thing by telling K what she saw. Cause it better she found out now while she is still very young. As for O, he is still a PoS. So zero sympathy for him

[@ElCid48]

to all you gay guys, stop screwing around with females feelings, they should know your past when it comes to getting sexual illnesses because it is so wrong.

[@remytate6498]

​@@ElCid48 honestly I don't like when gay guys use us as beards if they're gay don't be using straight women to conceal your identity

[@paden1865able]

Dang, within the first ten minutes. Just hope OP is going to tell her for good reason and not just for spite. She shouldn't be with a cheater, though. Also, cheating is cheating, no matter how old you are. Reddit is full of fools, sometimes.

[@vanzy01]

👍🏿💯

[@Batman-lg2zj]

Op has a right to do it with or without spite .

[@akl2k7]

@Danny Timms If you saw someone you knew that was nice getting beat up, would you do nothing because "it's none of your business?" Getting cheated on hurts people, even if they don't know about it.

[@AndyyWithAY]

WTF is with this hate on story 1?? She's only 16 currently. She was a child then and she thought naturally a relationship between 15 yr olds wouldn't last. Most of them don't. The brother's homophobic remarks makes think he may be in the closet. That's funny you'd never heard the term beard, Mark. The article you found did say it was American, so maybe it's not used in the UK. Basically a beard is someone of the opposite sex you date/marry so no one knows you're gay

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

Even worse. Reddit people are angry that a 12 year old didn't go to the girlfriend shen she walked in on her 15 year old brother. As if a 12 year old knows right away how to act in such a situation.

[@MrBuns-yi2hk]

I think people kind of missed the point to. It is more about the brother possibly being gay and hiding it from the girlfriend than the single incident of cheating. From the last update, this has been happening for a while now.

[@ShubhamBH22]

Apparently, Infidelity is ok if you're 'in the closet' and 'just exploring your sexuality'

[@paulinadeboer3604]

I realy hate this kind of behaviour. She could have found a another man in these 4 years. What selfish you have to be, to Hurt another person this way. If you want to find out if your gay or you are still internet closet, go to a hotel but don't botter other people with your sexual orientation.

[@vulpixle9659]

Funfact Betty white dated Liberace to get rid of rumors of him being homosexual Betty white was and forever will be a freaking queen

[@jayc7171]

Why op get shit for not saying something when she was 11 at the time???

[@LovesGaming37]

What's with people forgiving the chester because he is a teen? Bet if it was a teenage girl, they would drag her over the coals

[@MrBuns-yi2hk]

Story 2: NTA. Sister clearly does not appreciate you based on her reaction and does not feel guilt for the way you were treated.

[@Russman67]

Story 2: It's not OP's job to jump in and save the sister and her family financially. She went low contact for some solid reasons. The sister calling her a c you next Tuesday is just the cherry on top of a shit sundae. Let Mom who stole the cat step in and save the sister.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Story 1: Normally I'd call out someone who knew about cheating and didn't tell the betrayed partner, but OP was a child when the cheating happened. And I'm well aware that children can be manipulated into hiding affairs, so I don't blame OP. I had a feeling that this wasn't the first time I cheated on K. LGBTQ or not, he's a jerk and I'm glad OP told the girlfriend. Hopefully they both cut ties with him. Story 2: OP is definitely NTA here. She went no contact with her narc mom and golden child sis for a reason. Tom the lovely cat was family WAY more than they ever were. I'm so happy he recovered. I also can relate. I too tend to forget that no is a complete sentence and you don't owe anyone an explanation. I'm working on it though. In any case, I'm really happy OP stood her ground and has gone no contact with her toxic family. She's better off without them. And I hope she, her husband and Tom the lovely cat enjoy the time they have left together. They deserve all of the happiness in the world. ❤️💕❤️

[@anitasouthwick9578]

I just had to put my dog Star down a week ago. She was 14.5 months. She had a tumor and nothing could be done but I would have given everything for her so I would have done exactly what OP had done. Bless you for standing by Tom. NTA. 18:15

[@ArcaneNim]

I am sorry to hear about your dog, I hope you are doing as well as you can be.

[@TheDarwinProject1]

2nd story, OP's elderly cat is their dependent, just like a child is. That family would (hopefully) not be asking for OP to give up medical funds if they had a human child that needed surgery. They're "family" is the heartless ones for dismissing how important OP's cat is to them.

[@iononcantomascrivo]

Sitting here, drinking coffee on a day off while listening to Mark's smooth, melodious mellow voice. How are you doing, you cheeky so-and-so's?

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

I'm alright hbu?

[@ambarmar8601]

Story 2: No is a full sentence you don’t need to explain yourself, if you still want to add to no you can say “No, I’m sorry I can’t, money is tight right now.”

[@madambutterfly1997]

As much as I love my brother, I won't hesitate to throw him under bus if I catch him cheating. Our mother didn't raise us to be selfish. And I expect him to have my back in the same way.

[@GIChiyo]

Story 1: The way the brother is acting he is 100% in the closet Tell the girlfriend Edit: Yep, she was his cover for his sexuality, what an ass, people who do that really friend my gears it's so selfish imo Unless a person consents to a relationship-of-convenience it is not ok to string someone along like that...

[@key2theuniverse713]

Hormones is no excuse for stupidity

[@ActivistVictor]

After bro called her out on the phone he deserved to be exposed. Calling her a mistake and that is literally inexcusable and those who do that DESERVE to suffer

[@New_Theaology]

Story 2: Maybe I'm just a 🐝 but my response to "You're going to be a crazy cat lady and all alone" would have been "Maybe but my cats and I will still have a home 🙃"

[@jeaniem995]

just had dinner, relaxing with a cup of hot cocoa and a cozy cat listening to these wild stories. Thanks for bringing the entertainment with your soothing voice every day

[@QuietRage]

Nothing makes my blood boil quite like people that think animals are "lesser" than people in ALL circumstances. Doesn't matter if that person has treated you like shit, neglected you, bullied you, whatever, they'll still call you "heartless" for prioritizing a loyal animal that has loved you unconditionally over that PoS person. F people and that messed up logic.

[@madisonl3401]

Driving to work and drinking my earl grey tea and listening to a new video makes me so happy. ❤

[@AndyyWithAY]

I finally had my cardiology appt. I had pay a $40 copay to be told what I already knew: my heart is completely fine. Then my primary doctor wanted me to come see them, pay another $30 to get my meds refilled because my white blood cells were high when I saw them last month. I had COVID 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ Imagine the cells that fight infection being high when you're sick. They did call it in. I'm finding another doctor who's actually competent. I took the day off, did some window shopping, now I'm at the park about to take some photos. I did my makeup, wore my new Pioneer Woman dress, wanted to look cute. I always feel better when I look good

[@audreym3908]

Wow! Hope you find a new doctor soon. Hope you got amazing photos too!

[@lindah3803]

Keep talking care of yourself. Pioneer style huh,cool. Good luck on your search for a new doctor.

[@AndyyWithAY]

@@lindah3803 Thank you!

[@AndyyWithAY]

@@audreym3908 Thank you! I took some good ones

[@rylashadow18]

S1) Doesn't matter who he did this with the truth of it all is that he cheated. If he wanted to try something out with someone else he should've talked to her about it and broke things off. So not only was he cheating the entire relationship but was cheating with all of his so called "friends"? Dude I hope she's going for the gold in the next Olympic from how fast she ran from this relationship. S2) Yeah you did the right thing. You maybe a crazy cat lady but at least you have your own home, aren't loosing money to a scam and can afford what you want. Too bad she's proven some apples don't fall far from the tree. Heck some don't even fall from the tree. She's apart of the some still stuck on the tree.

[@aconfusedbuzzard526]

I don't understand this constant argument redditors are putting up of "he was only 15, don't blow up the relationship over this". Okay, well if he was only 15 and stupid and it's a forgiveable offense, then no one should have a problem telling the girlfriend, right? Because if it's so forgiveable, surely it shouldn't bother her, right? Surely, if the relationship implodes, it's HER prerogative, and she can't make that decision for herself without knowing she has one to make. Why does a forgiveable offense automatically equal not telling the other party? Oh, let me guess, because it ISN'T forgiveable to the one person that matters in the situation- the girlfriend.

[@LovesGaming37]

Morality over family and friends all day every day

[@jmarie9997]

Never tell people what you're spending money on.

[@kuno3336]

I was a teenage boy with hormones, and I never cheated on anyone. I got close, once, towards the end of my first relationship, and stopped myself. So no, hormones are no excuse.

[@adriennewaterhouse5174]

So glad Tom cat is doing better!!! I know when it comes to my Bizkits that I choose him every time. My hubby used to grump about but now he just teases me for it. Keep on loving that Tom as he obviously loves you. P.S. I only give my love to those who not only receive it but return it in kind as does your Tom🤙🤙

[@lindah3803]

Gotta take care of the baby. Years ago my hubby was talking with coworkers. They brought up getting beer for the weekend. Hubby said no beer this weekend. They asked why. My wife told me no beer this month,the dogs had to go to the vet. Of course they offered sympathy. He laughed at them,told them he had to take care of the babies.

[@susanvanophem4569]

OP this is a hard spot for you. Maybe talking to him is the best thing. There was a story Redditb about a dad was horrible to his gay son all his life. Years later the dad came out and married his affair partner. Good luck sweet girl. Hugs.

[@TheHellsHobbit]

Story 2 No is a complete sentence, reason is no one's business, and giving the reason invites the drama llamas.

[@robertx8020]

I love this channel!! Is het Mark's voice? The stories he picks? The way he tells them? His excitement? The way he throws in his personal stuff? The waffles? The answer is : YES!

[@GreenSkye42]

I can finally get some TLC and listen to stories. Thank goodness... It's been a long few weeks.

[@jennilynne1977]

I hope everyone is having a great day/afternoon/night! Peace ☮️, hugs 🤗 and love 😘!

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

💜💜🤗🤗

[@TheMimiSard]

Story 2 - From all the cat channels I watch, dental problems can really impact how happy the cat can be. By the sound of it, that is what Tom had, and tooth extraction helped a lot.

[@stutikhanna987]

I misbehaved with my parents and always try to run away from them when i was Teenager but when I grown up i remember those incidents and apologize to my parents for my misbehaviour and ask for forgiveness they didn't even remember it but i felt better doing it. My point is that i understand teenagers make such rubbish mistakes but now he was a adult not fully but he is living separate from his family so he knows what he was doing so he could talk to her about it but nope he was in denial for this and lashing out on his sister. Good to know that those people who are bullying the OP got to know he was not doing a one time mistake but he was a cheater and that's great to know that they are separate because who knows once he got money from the family he will divorce the girl and then abuse her in public.

[@pinkdipi]

Dear Mark, thank you for being you ❤ In one of your videos you said you are learning to crochet. I'd love to see what you do! When you tell something about yourself and your life I kind of go, oh, Mark really is an actyal person living a life out there and is not only a good sounding (🤭) voice behing the screen. At the moment I'm enjoying the warm sun rays outside while crocheting, but I'm a little bit sad, because the sun is running lower each day and the nights are getting cool. But this year, the end of August is very warm, so I'm totally spending each possible moment enjoying it! All the best to you form Finland! ❤☀️

[@justabunneh6490]

Glad the kitteh is doing well. I'm still waiting for the Vet's call on the results of my bunny's xray, I'm so scared to hear bad news. Putting him in God's hands is all I can do right now.

[@greyphoenix2596]

Praying for your bunny!

[@lindah3803]

Major stress. Take a deep breath,busy yourself,distraction is a bit helpful. Hoping baby will be fine.

[@ScribblerILM]

How is your bunny? I hope the vet call went well.

[@Windxchild]

I think it is something a lot of us have to work on. The amount of times I’ve doubted myself, because I didn’t just say no, but gave an explanation as to why not… This also opens up a conversation to let others persuade you, whereas just saying no can sometimes just be the end of it… Then again, I am also in therapy for this 😅

[@Frightmarelordofthenightmares]

Don't cause Drama and let them be happy. Me: If something is destroyed by the truth don't blame the victim/Witness for not turning a blind eye to the bad person's misdeeds. They should be mad at the Brother

[@champslim]

Ohhhh poor kid. She was 12.

[@duketha5286]

Story 1 why do more people have empathy for a fifteen-year-old who cheated rather than the twelve-year-old who saw it

[@paulastiles5507]

Story #2: OP, next time, don't mention the specific reason you can't "lend" money to your lazy, good-for-nothing, Golden Child sister, and direct her back to Mummy Dearest and her flying monkeys. Better yet, just go NC with her permanently. Block *everyone* spamming you and tell your husband to stay in his lane. That cat has given you far more love than anyone biologically related to you.

[@neil999ish]

Some one needs to put a flying monkey emoji on an emoji site.

[@paulastiles5507]

@@neil999ish Hey, that's a really good suggestion!

[@WobblesandBean]

I'm disgusted by the way Reddit reacted to OP 1.

[@Catilena1890]

This is why we as a society should stop drilling "FAAAAAAMILY" in kids. Family is important, but being a decent human being should come before all that. If your family member is being a shitstain, then you hold them accountable for it.

[@ElCid48]

I grow up with parents and siblings that I am close too. they were and are good people. but I have met work mates and school mates that do not have good parents or good siblings and I learn to listen and not judge. that is were I learn the term sperm donor and egg donor. a term people use so they do not have to use the terms mom or dad because these people are not. it does also with brother and sister. some people have family member who do not do anything good to desire there terms either.

[@Mglay556]

Reddit really be out here defending cheating. Damn

[@elkaorvtro9990]

Haha so... i may or not be OP from story one, thanks Mark Narrations I feel fear now

[@simac8396]

Story 2: if family is so important, why doesn't your mother take them in? And F, your husband, I can't stand people who placate assholes just to "keep the peace"

[@BraveryWing26]

Oh god, he had several "Best Friends" and fooled around with all of them. First OP did the right thing.

[@roarkthehalf-orc6598]

In story 1, first the op is showing what I like to call toxic family culture. People should be allowed to do terrible things and get away with it because "family." Let's also not forget that a lot of people were saying to let the brother get away with the cheating. Why? Because he's gay? That doesn't give you a douchebag pass, you should pay the consequences whether straight or otherwise. Anybody that uses someone as a beard without consent and then proceed to cheat with same sex people behind their back is a terrible person

[@TechnoMageB5]

Frame: we're talking high school relationship at the time of the incident. OP was 12, O was 15, K was 15. Were they "going steady" (exclusive) at the time? Maybe I'm old school, but relationships in middle and high school had levels; there was having a relationship but not committed, then there's going steady (committed). I want to assume they were committed given how OP is presenting this, but the data in fact is just...missing... That said, K should know, now that things are serious (no secrets in marriage). OP is struggling with her loyalty to family and her conscience, and she's what - 15, 16 years old now. Let's see how this ends. Edit: oh wow, that took a dark turn. Kudos to OP for doing the right thing. K knows, it's her choice now how to proceed.

[@Himitssu]

Story 1: I feel horrible for the girlfriend, but very satisfied with the update showing that the brother is still a cheater after all the comments trying to defend him, even more the person saying "he's been loyal since then", oh please.I still belive that the only people who tries to defend/justify cheating are cheaters themselves. Also, the brother using his girfriend so he can pretend to be straight while having fun with his 'friends' on the side, disgusting.

[@frith.calluna]

Reddit casually forgetting or ignoring OP was literally 12 when she walked in on her brother... Disappointed but not surprised.

[@LS-bb9qh]

Everyone just cool with his gf not knowing he cheating. Wow... But they are happy now. Not an excuse.

[@dc.pxrecious]

Sometimes I give a reason for saying No. That reason is usually because I don’t want to. Sure I feel guilty sometimes (if the person is disappointed) but that goes away. Don't let people guilt you into doing things for them especially when they're undeserving, have an entitled attitude, a manipulator, etc.

[@KE-hr4sb]

S1: What the flying fuck is with the people excusing her brother’s cheating as “hormones” or “a phase”?! Cheating is cheating, period. And pretending to be straight and making homophobic jokes? Nah fam. “I’d want to know if I was in her place.” Imo, OP, that tells you what you need to do.

[@annathomas1996]

Hey Mark! I'm an avid listener on Spotify but they don't have comments so I came here. Would it be possible not use that song that loudly says 'wake up!'? I use your podcast to fall asleep so it's somewhat startling. I wasn't sure if there might be others who feel the same, so just thought I would come here and state my case. Keep up the great work!

[@angieb.5852]

I have been binge watching all day tryn to get caught up. Now I'm sad that I'm caught up. Lol.

[@tishellefrancois7840]

Senior pets are so cuuute. Oh can already imagine the old walk they do.

[@rachelwitherspoon4394]

Story 2.....the cats has given more reason for OP to care about the cat than the sister.

[@louellacharlton4425]

Tyvm Mark

[@OmicronOfIce]

It's been nice the last few days between work to sit, listen and make dreamcatchers n.n

[@rebeccaperkins2605]

Story 1 commenters are wild. I hope it's not being excused as "just hormones" because it was a gay interaction, and the reaction would have been the same from them if the 15 year old "O" cheated with a girl on "K". For me, cheating is cheating is cheating, doesn't matter if you're 15 or 25. You know it's wrong.

[@Tyanna01]

Story 2: If someone asking for a favour jumps to insulting and attacking you when you say no, you made the right choice. NTA.

[@mindyschocolate]

“Hormones”. What an excuse.

[@WobblesandBean]

Story 2: LMAO!! Of course the spoiled little Golden Child would marry a crypto bro. They both deserve their bankruptcy, and OP was absolutely right to tell her sister to screw off. Best of luck to you and your kitty!

[@pippo17173]

I never thought I hear nfts in this channel or in this subreddit.

[@michamocha]

The idea of grown adults lacking the decency and comprehension skills to interact with a 16 yr old is insane but not shocking. The girl is 16 and seen it when she was 12. No duh she hesitated for so long, especially if her family truly did push the "family first" ideal to that degree.

[@allygatorrampage]

“It was probably just hormones” sounds like these guys also cheated on their girlfriends by making out with their bros 😂

[@savanamoon107104]

I just did some mental math and realize something. OP was 12 when she walked in on her brother making out with his best friend. She also mentioned that she had been calling out her parents BS since she was 13. That means she didn't start calling out her parents BS until after she walked it on her brother making out with another guy. Seems to me like she was low-key being his biggest supporter for the last 4 years, cheating aside since she clearly didn't know it was a repeating thing. When I was 16 the trend in my high school was "it's not cheating if your partners are different genders from each other" so IMO OP is ahead of the developmental curve. The situational blind commenters on Reddit who are judging her for waiting 4 years to say anything to the girlfriend need to take a reality pill because that is way too much pressure to put on a literal child. And just because OP was young at the time it didn't understand the full scale of consequences doesn't mean that she should look the other way now that she does just because it's been 4 years.

[@bdazzld]

Vets and Dentists are frequently as dishonest as honest -.- it’s really hard :(

[@debc6260]

No PET TAX for the 2nd story? WHAAAA! I wanted to see Tom.

[@GalliaUchiha]

Story 2 absolutely not the ahole. Sister couldn't be bothered to be civil and the rest of the 'family' spamming can give the sister money. It's pathetic to treat people like shit and expect them to still give and give.

[@craigmacdonald5352]

Wtf is wrong with people, they're not just some animal, they're a family member

[@WobblesandBean]

As a former vet student, Reddit's slagging off the vet that saved Tom is exactly why I quit. People are generally awful. The vet I apprenticed under was one of the best I've met, but in the few months I shadowed at her clinic, I saw dozens of pet owners (almost always dog moms, go figure) scream at her for charging what she did, calling her a scam artist, that if she REALLY loved animals she'd do this for free, etc. Here's the thing you ungrateful troglodytes of Reddit don't understand: vets have to use the exact same equipment as human medicine. They don't make MRI machines and blood centrifuges for cats and dogs, obviously. These testing machines are expensive af, and unlike human doctors, vets don't get any discounts and they can't bill insurance for them. It's all out of pocket. Furthermore, vets can't specialize. They have to be radiologists, oncologists, surgeons, renal specialists, and so on. For DOZENS of species. And, once again, we learn the same exact same medical education as human doctors. Pets suffer many of the same diseases we do, and we pay the same high amount to receive our DVM as doctors do their PhD and MD. ....Only they don't get paid even 1/10th what an entry level doctor can earn. Between the massive, insurmountable debt, low pay, expensive equipment, and ungrateful, hostile pet owners constantly bullying them, it's no wonder that veterinarians have the highest Self Crit rate of any other career. So maybe be a little kinder and stop assuming all vets are out to extort you, ok? Ungrateful conkwockets.

[@Thedragonlover95]

Story 2. Your Fur Baby is more important then the golden child

[@Swnsasy]

My goodness Reddit, she's a damn child! They act like she's a grown woman and a horrible person. She was 11 at the time damn.. Now the brother, many will make comments like that when they are still in the closet and might be using his girlfriend as the beard or he was just experimenting... The way he reacted makes me feel he's in the closet... The gf may know though or have a feeling. Yea, his reaction is sus to me...

[@skyelindsey687]

“It was just hormones” is the lamest excuse for cheating because you never would’ve cheated if you didn’t want to no matter the gender of the affair partner. And internalized homophobia is still homophobia and should never be tolerated. If I was OP I would also tell her brother’s best friend and other AP what he’s been saying behind closed doors about the LGBT+

[@LovesGaming37]

Sorry but puberty isn't a pass for cheating. Screw that comment

[@liabowden8526]

Yesterday I bought two black “straw” hats at the dollar store & dismantled one, so today I’m turning them into One hat. Bigger brim, pointy witchy top. Lots of pinning & handsewing, 😅. Adding to the brim on my machine last night was the easiest part, & it was still kind of a pain in the ass, today is stabbing and cursing, lol. 🤷‍♀️ Have a lovely day, Mark.

[@ObsidianFaux]

I don’t feel bad for people that use others to hide their sexuality,

[@noxlupa2996]

What on earth is that hormones excuse? He can still control himself, it would be the same if he had cheated with women

[@shirleyanneyoung955]

Cat lady - NTA, NTA, NTA never in a million years. Cat who you’ve loved for years and who has loved you unconditionally, unreservedly and completely or entitled sister = no brainer. ETA - so glad Tom is feeling much better. I hope he has many more years left. ❤️❤️❤️

[@carolsh1983]

I certainly have to work on No as a complete sentence too. Very much.

[@Tammohawk1]

2. I'd ask mom and sister what they have done for me lately? Nothing? Well, that's what you get in return.

[@BraveryWing26]

I wish 2nd OP's had told Mom and sister the real reason she didnt help her. They dont deserve help.

[@pastellepinkie2605]

Lmao let her go homeless her bf is a nft crypto bro