I'm Selling Logs to an Amish Sawmill

[@michaelnancyamsden7410]

Please take us along for the ride home. You do not have to talk. I love feeling like I am on the seat, too.

[@johnkomosa4089]

This is a dbbl watcher. Those are the biggest tamarack logs I have ever seen, that one tree you showed us the annular rings with the big sliver off the stump, boy Jim what a prize Tam.. The only conifer that looses it's needles, I heard of people cutting big swaths of Tamaracks down thinking they were dead with some beetle kill when they just did not know they loose their needles. Leaf trees or deciduous trees, but yeah the Tamarac stands so pretty in the fall , beautiful amber as the sun rips across the lake. We only have a few on our Farm but on our Lake house there is a big stand on the other side of the lake, and I could maybe skid some across the lake in January After the 1st Deep freeze cycle.. but..., Jim , you are a Mentor and I say with respect, that stroking (quick cuts) on the hung up tree, I do that too but don't like it. But I never turn my back on a tree like that. I thought you would chain it with more length to protect the horses but it may be better close so you get better control of the tree as you pull it down. I would do it differant because I don't have your experience, I would have maybe long chained it. But, ... in the future , consider not turning your back on that tree, I like you too much. But...., the next tree you fell after that , the thrash and trash bouncing around in the canopy, wow!, then...you so calm, .."ok, we got that one down" stuff still falling down. Ah ha, that was awesome. I'm learning Jim, thanks for your patience with me. I gots to watch this one again. .. dang , I'm never gonna get through these videos, ah ha. Having Fun

[@nancyincanada5553]

Hi Jim and Brenda, my husband and I came across your channel and were blown away by the horses. They are gigantic! As they walked forward, their steps sounded like thunder. We were amazed at how you could get the horses to reverse with such high level of accuracy! Such a joy to watch this video. Thank you so very much for sharing with us.

[@drb141719]

Working horses= the most reliable tractor ever. I love watching these kind of videos using nature at it's finest.

[@julesdavid8472]

Hi my name is Jules! Im from Quebec Canada! I never had or mounted a horse!I like you guys! It fascinate me to understand every temper of each animal ! They all have their own personality! And i like the sound level of your voice and body language jim when you give them commands! Wish you all a great day

[@julesdavid8472]

You both got charming and charismatic voices! ☀️

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Thanks for watching!!

[@UniqueAerial]

Cool as shit. Don't see this type of logging much anymore, takes balls for sure!! Stay safe....

[@johnryder7531]

Japanese Larch were planted in the 50"s here in Western N.Y. on old farm land. I have an Amish friend that has been sawing Larch clapboards for over 30 years. He starts with a 1x6 then resaws them into 1/2" bevel siding rough or planed. They make a very nice siding. I bought some of the 1x6's and built a rack with side boards on a John Deere wagon gear. I painted it with boiled linseed oil and it came out beautiful. Larch has a very attractive grain and color.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Yes Larch is a good wood

[@johnbaskett2309]

Not an expert on horse logging, but logged many years in North Idaho and Montana with equipment. Is there a reason you don't use chokers? Put in many tamarack timbers in underground mines. Strong and rot resistant, but tended to be brittle and would break, rather than bend when overloaded. Very dangerous in a mine. Douglas Fir , although not quite as strong, was preferred as it would bend noticeably before breaking.

[@gregswenson4648]

Thank you ! Great video , your horses know what they're doing! nice team.

[@bladewiper]

well done. In a select cut, your pretty much guaranteed to have hang ups. In eastern Canada they don't even want it for pulp.

[@veronicasmith1147]

Its amazing how flexible these big horses are

[@martiensnellen9001]

Fantastisch deze serie,wat een perfecte omgang met de paarden. Jim legt het ook heel goed uit hoe hij het doet. Prachtige verstandhouding met de buren,de Amisch. Kunnen velen voorbeeld aan nemen. Prachtige natuur. Jim kan ook alles van omgang met paarden tot bouwen en verbouwen van stallen. Prachtig.

[@rhodesback]

Those are truly powerful beautiful horses. Amazing to me...

[@biddydibdab9180]

I didn’t know that Larch is another name for Tamarack so thanks for teaching me that. I’ve seen UK buildings clad in Larch and the narrator of the tv show always mentions how it’s so resistant to rot - similar to Cedar.

[@biddydibdab9180]

@Quat Sino Really informative. Thanks.

[@melanieohara6941]

My dad was an Off-bear for summer timber mills in the Medicine Bow National Forest West of Laramie in the early 1950s. He worked with Swedish Log Skidders who used amazing big skid horses to skid out the select-cut logs. Wonderful video here. Thank you!🙋🏼‍♀️🏔💞

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Thanks for sharing!

[@mmanut]

Those are some nice, straight trees that should yield some good lumber. It's amazing watching you work your horses, U R A GREAT TEAM‼️👍👍. Vinny 🇺🇸

[@donelookin3386]

what a good team

[@henrikgormsen1020]

Those horses are sooo ready to to play every time they hear your fiddeling with the chaines are done ;-)

[@jimcraig5208]

Tamarack is great firewood.

[@jamesmckay9966]

Very nice video.

[@2snowgirl520]

Dangerous work. You really know what you are doing.

[@jimnieland1743]

Tamarack or larch is a very light weight, strong wood whose properties are almost indistinguishable from Douglas fir. Obviously your Amish friends understand this species value. Rot resistance in instances of direct ground contact is not good and should be avoided. For structural strength it is an excellent wood. I have enjoyed watching your horse logging videos.

[@ButlerMillWorks]

What a great way to log! Thanks for sharing.

[@pnwRC.]

Awesome video demonstrating ways that are all too often forgotten. I had to subscribe!

[@MrVailtown]

You handled that Widow maker fairly well. Just remember complacency breeds contempt. Known to many guys not survive one of them. Round here for a bit was one or two a year. Last one guy fell one long side a dead snag, a limb broke off n speared him thru the heart, gone in seconds, his son whom cut with him was there to see it all. Ecclesiastes 3

[@ronaldfeuerstein435]

Great video thanks for the lesson on the type of trees. Would like to see the difference of them in spring and summer months.

[@2snowgirl520]

Wow, they maneuver like dressage horses.

[@lindastevens3547]

Nice horses and quite the handler.

[@katforgiven6411]

in montana we use larch for firewood.

[@tophauler8626]

those horses are very powerful

[@kennethbagster8236]

Great videos Jim.

[@donelookin3386]

here in ontario we have tamarack but it grows on wet, extreme wet areas...

[@jimcraig5208]

We use Tamerac for firewood

[@MrWaterbugdesign]

10:32 You "saw" that coming? Hehehe

[@zantomko1780]

Bald cypress also drops leaves/ needles

[@philvredevelt3949]

What did you build you login bunk out off?

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Aspen

[@cabbyhubby]

I'm from the Piney Woods of East Texas ... I've never heard of tamarack .... What is it used for?

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Hi, Tamarack is a great rot resistant wood so people use it for outdoor projects.

[@annahorinova558]

great job.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Thanks!

[@andyives5482]

Good to see you both OK in these dark times, great vid Jim keep up the good work.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

andy ives thanks

[@salmonhunter7414]

Your horses sure know when they need to pull. Thanks for sharing. Jim from North Bay Canada

[@bradedwards4092]

Hi Jim. I liked your vid on the D ring harness, as l have a log kart with a steel tongue. That is heavy, I’ve heard the name backer harness. Are they the same harness? I’m glad to see you sharing your knowledge, some people are not willing to do that. Looking forward to more videos. Thanks

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Brad Edwards I’ve never heard of backer harness, so they must be different. I’m glad you are liking our videos. When people say they like them it makes me want to make more.

[@woodsgremlin9995]

@@WorkingHorsesWithJim The side backer harness has a continuous strap from the breeching to the short or twin neckyoke, as they're called in our area. The advantage is there are no quarter straps for the horses to get their feet caught in when kicking at flies. The tongue weight is still carried on neck like with a martingale harness. On the D ring harness the weight is carried on the backpad.

[@fricknjeep]

hi there very nice john

[@devriescustomleather1109]

nice team! no tractor ruts

[@Diddley-js6lf]

Wow those look like a pine tree, now for a person who dont really know their trees can you advise me on the difference. Please Sir

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Diddley 0651 the tamarack tree is a very rot resident wood, pine is a good all around wood.

[@MarcoPolo-yt3ew]

Hi If you don't know about biochar. Yet tell everyone that you know very very good videos thank you very much keep up the good work videos are awesome do you know about biochar feed it to the hogs and cattle and goats it goes through them and helps the soil im from northern Kentucky look up the history of biochar for gardening tell everyone you know passed it on it's good for bad clay soil ok for good soil barn wood to char douse it with water then dry it out then activate it with worm castings or compost liquids first I also like rocket store Mass heaters couches and earthships homes are nice too look up sand to gold very interesting it's for deserts growing have a good day

[@woodsgremlin9995]

Another great video. Do you have issues with Lymes disease with your horses?

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Woods Gremlin no, why do you ask?

[@woodsgremlin9995]

@@WorkingHorsesWithJim We have a lot of trouble with tick borne diseases here in central Minnesota

[@r.f.richardsonjr5691]

Jim, have you ever had need to hitch two teams?

[@jeanettebrown5783]

Looks like agoog team I rode behind many of them hrowimg up on Jay wagon

[@paultighe3735]

Widow maker Jim

[@donvoll2580]

Good day I'm from Ont Canada Nice video, both horses when they take off, they relly take off. Where is this from & what the date. Thanks

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Don Voll thanks for watching. We live in northern New York not too far from Malone. This video was from about 2 weeks ago.

[@donvoll2580]

@@WorkingHorsesWithJim So you have Amish in New York , didn't know that. When you were driving to sawmill reminded me up here. Thanks

[@MrKen-longrangegrdhogeliminato]

Here some call that a widow maker!

[@frankmillett7603]

Jim, when your in the woods, do you carry some sort of an alert system such as a cell phone or an emergency alert button ? I know that if you’re videoing , you must have someone on the camera. Just wondering.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

I have my cell phone with me

[@donaldshields2483]

If I may have asked how much does it cost to have one hush shield if you don’t want to say that’s OK enjoy your videos

[@davidwpinkston4226]

that seemed to be a close call - i was worried for you, the horses, and the camera

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

david w pinkston thanks for your concern, we really weren’t at risk, I have done this hundred’s of times.But I sure hope someone inexperienced doesn’t try it and get hurt.

[@BRI33NOR]

I remember seeing in Uk and in France horses walking in a circle around a geared roundabout type thing which had a gear driven shaft which powered, by pulley and belt, various pieces of farm equipment and blacksmiths tools, lathes, drills etc. The horses automatically stepped over the shaft every time round. Wonder if anyone got videos of such an arrangement.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Interesting, not sure

[@crammy7]

These are originally belgian horses !

[@frankkokoski7995]

Do you ever log with all four horses hitched together

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Frank Kokoski no I haven’t

[@donelookin3386]

It is not natural for horses to back up, loose you will rarely see them back up much. People make a mistake training horses to back and you often see the horses get stuck or drag their feet. Your do it right by walking backwards, lifting their feet..... You did good teaching them

[@maddog2771]

Do you replant new trees so you have for the future, or are you clearing it for farming? Just wandering

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Mad Dog trees replant themselves all the time so I don’t have to

[@Lau-zon180]

I'm new to your channel today I've watch a few videos, and you and the horses work great together

[@sandymacpherson9400]

Looks plenty cold and bleak in that wood lot, but it's interesting to see somebody finessing things with REAL horse power rather than brute diesel horsepower. Can't be too many doing it this way any longer. We can only hope it doesn't become another lost art!

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

The aim of this channel is to try to share what I have learned and pass it on to other people, hoping that the art is not lost.

[@mervjb809]

Tamarack and Larch, are deciduous conifers. I think they're the only conifers that are not evergreen.

[@bladewiper]

we call them tamarack or hackmatack, never heard the name larch.

[@ubu6420]

how much do the logs sell for? are you able to make a decent living doing so?

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

The price varies but yes, I can make a good living logging with horses

[@migueldelgado273]

I lived in the Bombay Helena rd near Helena sold my farm to Amish from Kentucky they're very old order more like the Swazentrubers we have in Ohio they like my place because it had a artesian well so they could have running water fairly easily. Apparently since then 2000 a lot more Amish have moved there Malone ,Brushton,Bombay Helena etc. Tom Coleman

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Miguel Delgado yes we have a lot of new neighbors in the surrounding area

[@cathiwim]

They are running out of room in KY and TN

[@ernielaurent671]

Powerful horse s

[@dinkchow]

Do you use animals so the Amish will deal with you? Your horses are beautiful.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

George Foltz no I was using them long before the Amish moved into our area. I use them because I enjoy using them.

[@bc8968]

I thought they only grew in swamp land

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

B C this land is high and dry, and the trees were planted here. Maybe the native trees were more in the swamps.

[@jamesmckay9966]

All LARCH LOOSE THEIR NEEDLES... THE YELLOW NEEDLES YOU SEE IN THE FALL OF THE YEAR. ARE DEAD. SPRING BRINGS BRAND NEW NEEDLES. FORESTER JIM MC KAY

[@bonnieblueflag5104]

Cypress also loses its needles in the Fall.

[@pocketchange1951]

👍👌🇨🇦❤

[@cathy9160]

Beautiful horses .i dont like seeing them pulling a heavy load.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

cathy9160 thanks for watching, I’m curious why you don’t like to see them pull a heavy load? I like to show my horses doing a wide variety of things and pulling a heavy load is just one of the many things that we do.

[@johnbaskett2309]

Draft horses are bred to pull heavy loads. Been doing it for eons. Prior to steam engines, there was no other way other than oxen and maybe elephants in some parts of the world. I've seen horses abused, but Jim is obviously skilled and takes good care of his animals and would never hurt them.

[@Ras7685]

Must be his first time falling a tree.

[@arthurdewith7608]

not likely the wind took the tree top over there hehe or the weight on one side

[@johnbaskett2309]

I'm 68 and fell timber on and off in Idaho and Montana for many, many years. It's obvious Jim knows what he's doing. Also obvious you don't have a clue. Anyone who has never hung one up has never fell much.