I made 100k bots test different betting strategies all day. Here's what I learned.

[@delightfulkissboy8926]

I should mention: this is only the case for non-advantage play. Varying bet sizes when counting cards, for example, does affect your expected return. Gonna be makin a vid about card counting after the Buckshot multiplayer analysis 👌 Also: been seeing some ppl comment about simulating particular strategies in certain conditions. May do a quick followup vid covering some of these cases, so drop a comment if there's a particular system/strategy you want to see with particular bet amounts (the more specific the better)

[@ssjsqueak]

Can you simulate Reverse Labouchère? The initial layout of numbers is your kitty divided up instead of the "win goal". You cross off units when you lose instead of win. You Add the win amount to the end and then generate your next bet by adding the end numbers again. With the 100k kitty you'd probably start with 1k at each end and pyramid them in but keep half your kitty (50k) as the centre digit and never bet it as a kind of "stop loss".

[@vking7]

The discussion of total amount bet reminded me of something I saw when I watched a gambling streamer out of boredom and morbid curiosity. I'm not talking about a strategy, however: I'm talking about a situation. The streamer had deals with the casinos he gambled at where he could deposit a large sum and they would match by some multiple, with the caveat that he could not withdraw any funds until he had overall bet a certain amount of money. Let's say the bots get a similar deal (numbers pulled out of thin air, may be too fair or too harsh) - they put 25k in to get matched 75k, and gamble that 100k total until they lose it all or have overall bet 500k.

[@Patashu]

Besides advantage play, it's also interesting if you're doing gambles with positive expected value (like playing the stock market). Now there's genuine need to balance 'if I bet bigger I earn money faster' with 'if I lose too much money I can't bet big any more'. Default strategy here is called the 'Kelly criterion'.

[@nicanornunez9787]

Yes I was thinking in 2. #1 minimum bet, Labouchere, in roulette with plopy 3/2. In the ploppy You bet 3 units to de black and 2 to the third column, the third column only have 4 black numbers, the probability of wining one unity or dollars is 59.4% (black in the first 2 columns or reds in the third column) the probability of wining 2 units is 10.81%, the intersection of black and third column. The probability of losing is 29.73% if I did the calculation correctly 10 reds 1 green OC European roulette. Now I was thinking the unit should be in some proportion to the maximum bet, so the Labouchere don't get to the spot of the maximum bet before a streak of 7L. The earnings are probably close to nothing, don't even worth the time it takes me to go to the casino, something tells me, a little voice, that big numbers will correct that, however I don't think 100k bots would be in the long run a strategy to beat the casino, cause they would be getting banned, and the technology would just evolved eventually. Maybe outsourcing 5k teenage female workers from some apple factory to supervise 100 bots all day all night gambling, with the money flowing to some kind of anonymous society corporation in Panama or Switzerland. That it is probably the only way to make money with that, so why don't you make that simulation.

[@nicanornunez9787]

The other one is arbitrage betting.

[@omegahaxors9-11]

Optimal strategy: Wander around, piss off the employees and get banned from ever coming back.

[@kababuo1989]

piss on the employees*

[@violaanderson175]

The most money you get strategy

[@ookami38]

alternatively, wander around, make minimum bets, and enjoy the free booze. If you're not at a place that does free booze, leave.

[@dankduck2209]

It's optimal because it doesn't involve any gambling.

[@patrykapiezo1650]

As an extra step: find out how to actually get the free drinks w eryone is talking about

[@icarusDaBoi]

Amazing stats breakdown. The whole time, I was thinking "how do these betting strategies do anything to change the base odds of the game?" The answer is: they don't! Glad to see my gut was vindicated. Awesome video!

[@Matthew-px4vu]

The thing is that it isn't actually trivial that these strategies are bad. Look at a fictional game where you have a 50% chance to triple your money. The highest EV play would be to go all in ad nauseum right? But eventually you just bankrupt yourself as you get one unlucky coin toss. This is why looking at EV isn't actually the whole story and you also have to look at the risk of ruin and other factors. Martingale is especially atrocious because if you do the math, for any sufficiently large finite bankroll, you end up only having a 1/e chance of doubling the bankroll (assuming 0% house edge) which is just atrocious because you could just take the whole bankroll at once at put it on red at the start. In reality any game with a negative EV can't be fixed with any betting strategy, so your best bet is to just flat bet a number you're comfortable with unless the EV changes to like even or positive which is can if you count in bj or smth

[@australiananarchist480]

@@Matthew-px4vu hehe bj

[@roussin_]

thank you i am addicted to gambling (analysis)

[@ChirpingMatt]

I was thinking about why Martingale always seems better than it actually is. And it reminded me of a different famous stats experiment: Fake vs Real coin flips. The basic idea goes like this: A stats professor tells two people record 500 coin flips. BUT only one of them is actually flipping a coin. The other is told to just make them up. The stats professor will look at them afterwards and see if he can tell who did the real coin flips and who was making it up. 90+% of the time, the professor can tell who made it up based on the length of streaks. People making it up almost never make up a streak of 7+ heads or tails in a row, because it seems so intuitively unlikely to them. But in reality, if you flip a coin 500 times, it becomes a near certainty you're going to have at least one streak of 7+, and usually multiple. Same with Martingale. People think it's foolproof because losing 7 in a row seems so unlikely. But if you're playing 1000 runs, it becomes a near certainty.

[@delightfulkissboy8926]

That's actually really clever, I like that experiment. Similar thing when you ask someone to think of a "random" number in a range

[@CL2K]

I remember as a kid playing a game called "Four Corners". We would all get in the middle of a large room (e.g. gym), and one guy would close his eyes, start counting down from 20, and we all run to a corner. After the guy finished counting, he calls a corner, and everyone there's out. Last one standing goes to the middle (round is repeated if there is a tie that gets everyone out) One trick I figured is that most people NEVER call the same corner twice, so I would just go to the last corner called, and I would never get picked out.

[@B3Band]

@@CL2K This is what we had to do before TikTok, kids

[@Bet_Bones]

All in, win, get trashed in your hotel room. Next question

[@miguelito0716]

is what a quitter would say. 😈

[@johnblyth9787]

Sir it will cost you 110,000 to clean your room.

[@cate01a]

quickload if lost

[@HollowProject]

4:03 comment is WRONG, we watch you for your yapping specifically, so keep doing it :D

[@whodistoodis]

Some people are just fun to listen to. Combine the joyful enthusiasm of things one enjoys, a lovely voice, and a fun presentation, all comes together into something that is, dare I say, Delightful.

[@CollectorVX]

I watched both videos fully aware of their likely results and still enjoyed them plus you can always fforward if you want to. The kinda guy to complain about this being time waste is probably the same guy pissing away hundreds of hours at 1$ online bj tables

[@nullandvoid8462]

@@CollectorVX where are these 1$ online blowjob tables and how can I buy-in

[@themc3140]

Only person who has made me laugh out loud from a PowerPoint presentation

[@Rare_K_]

The one true winning strategy: Don't enter the casino.

[@Moonlite_Kitsune]

either that or be the casino, both work

[@TristanLane520]

​@@Moonlite_Kitsune it didn't for Trump Casino 😂

[@prfwrx2497]

​@@TristanLane520 he bankrupted 2 casinos IIRC. Honestly, who the fuck manages to bankrupt a legal, privately owned money printer? And how does such a blithering nimrod convinces a country to vote him for president not once, but *twice?*

[@mlgdogememe3038]

@@TristanLane520 What happened there?

[@TristanLane520]

@@mlgdogememe3038 idk Google it lol. Presumably they spent more than they made, that's what usually happened when a business went bankrupt.

[@obganiationstudios]

“endless useless chatter” buddy its a dkb video, thats the charm. on a side note, i love the gambling videos, your passion for the things you talk about shows C: thank you dkb

[@lakthederg]

fr. it feels like that one cool teacher who goes off on tangents every now and then to keep people engaged.

[@obganiationstudios]

@@lakthederg FOR REAL hes the best math teacher ever

[@omegahaxors9-11]

Casinos might kick you out for using martingale, not because it's a winning strategy that gives you an unfair advantage, but because it's a trap that causes people to bleed out completely and drop out of the pool of available gamblers. They make way more money if you keep coming back, rather than getting one really bad run, losing it all then never coming back.

[@TheIbney00]

They will not kick you out for martingaling. They might be stupid and think you’re a card counter because you’re increasing your bets. Source: I’m a card counter and have seen it happen lmao

[@anonymoose2474]

You can't really card count in baccarat though and that's the most martingale game there is ​@@TheIbney00

[@VarsityAthlete04]

How does kicking someone out make them any money?

[@nicklazzaro5055]

Please stop talking for eternity. Thanks.

[@mattropolis99]

The best strategy? Put your money in a mutual fund earning 8% requiring you to do NOTHING to make tons a year.

[@toomanymarys7355]

Index fund

[@otpezdal]

@@toomanymarys7355 Better buy those sweet meme coins

[@squfi]

This is the kind of video I wish I could show my dad if it wasn't made by a channel called "Delightful Kissboy".

[@delightfulkissboy8926]

😂

[@morgan3392]

Mr. Yeast is the only true breadtuber

[@nicanornunez9787]

Lol hahahahah

[@namshaw7515]

Yeastables are my favourite lunchtime snack

[@niranjannidhi]

So what you're saying is i should bet everything i have on a single round of baccarat.

[@roussin_]

this stuff only applies to backura not baccarat

[@irlporygon-z6929]

yes.

[@Pvrge.]

15:50 In a world full of Shirley Sprouses, be a Ardith Binkley. You can't lose your money gambling, if you just always win. Simple.

[@iankligman6914]

Instructions unclear: I walked out of the casino with -10k and a hot dog

[@DidObamaCare]

How the hell did you get a hotdog? All I got was handcuffs

[@spider76275]

another banger from Mr. Kissboy

[@samuelvavia8920]

Mumei!

[@shouta8133]

you're getting banned at casinos

[@miuzoreyes6547]

This video is just an overly long advertisement for hot dogs

[@XX-tn8zw]

4:01 dont stop yapping, I slept to your first casino games video three different times and Im planning to do it with this one. Keep pumping these out I love them.

[@RedTail1-1]

That's not the compliment you think it is... "You're so boring I use your videos to fall asleep"

[@XX-tn8zw]

@ its not really boring its interesting and helps me sleep, whats not to love about that!

[@irlporygon-z6929]

i FUCKED to the first casino games video three different times

[@Zlinky.4220]

His videos are on my sleepy playlist too! His voice is very soothing, and I like focusing on the numbers until I fall asleep

[@xiaolin867]

​@@RedTail1-1 "I fall asleep to your videos (because they bore me)" and "I fall asleep to your videos (as a sleep aid)" are two different things, SPIK GUD INGLISH R GIT AUT

[@DucktorHeyDucktor]

Labouche is the best one because it's literally just "quit while you are ahead"

[@stibblr]

your honestly becoming my favourite youtuber. nice, clear explanations, and really interesting content to boot. can’t wait for the next one!

[@halberdli431]

So the best strategy is setting up a hotdog stand by the door.

[@nicklazzaro5055]

Harrahs AC....

[@ahbh4348]

none of these bots were commanded to do a little ritual before getting the results from the game this makes it all invalid like could these bots even blow on dice if they wanted to?

[@prfwrx2497]

Hot take before I watch, if betting systems work, all casinos would be bankrupt a long time ago.

[@prfwrx2497]

God damn it, I was right.

[@B1esky]

most betting systems seem to rely on a "universal luck" system where, theoretically, if you just got a hit you should be mildly more likely to lose after, and vice versa. too bad the universe really does not care and all of these games have completely independent odds. there'll be someone who will never lose and there'll be someone who always loses, and everyone else will be in the middle

[@HollowProject]

YESSSSS continuation of my favourite series! Thanks Delightful Kissbouy :*

[@CYXXYC]

buckshot roulette ost as the gambling anthem

[@sebastiandierks7919]

42:35 good summary. If you can't help yourself and feel the need to gamble, no matter what you do you will not be able to avoid the house edge, so your expectation value will always be negative. But at least keep the variance as high as possible so that you give yourself as much chance as possible to gain money in the short term. For example when you play Roulette, don't bet on different possibilities that exclude each other, like reds and evens for example. In case you got lucky and won in the short run, grab the money and never come back.

[@VeganMoth]

I love how Kissboy talks about "All these gambling shorts and Vids that you see" like it's not only him getting them recommended from cooking his YT algorithm 💀

[@delightfulkissboy8926]

😂 I'm in a hell of my own making

[@VeganMoth]

@@delightfulkissboy8926 A sacrifice your viewers are willing to make 😊Please keep it up! 👍

[@burgerman7740]

I don’t get these people. you laid out so clearly last video: the only way to beat the house is to stay home

[@Ze_eT]

Using a Twitch bot, I once gambled using Martingale. I did not even know what Martingale was, I just thought to myself "eh, at least I am almost guaranteed to win 1 point". I proceeded to lose 255 points. On the first attempt. Pretty much was my first and only experience with betting systems.

[@MetroidMan90]

Sounds like a skill issue

[@thehyperdymond3067]

I really liked the third act twist there with the house edge lol. I was thinking intuitively that it didn’t make sense that these systems were ‘working’ so well and that there was some sort of trick to it, but I couldn’t quite put it into words until you pulled back the curtain at the end. It’s really sneaky that people push that kind of thing, I love these videos of yours explaining these in a way that’s so easy to understand

[@jonthefuzz]

Kissboy: its more likely to die in a car crash than loss this bet Me: Knowing full well that vehicle accidents is the most common way to die. "So the odds are bad"

[@duffin3503]

Most common way to die is heart disease, makes up 1/6 worldwide deaths. Car accidents are the most common transportation-related death, 1/100 people die in car crashes

[@MixForcey]

This video series tickles my autism just the way i like. Thank you DKB, very cool.

[@93Russki]

Martingale System is just picking up nickels in front of a steam roller.

[@Dapal003]

Thanks for the new vid Dad, always happy to see you pop up when I come back home. Almost makes it feel like you've never left.

[@Juicetey]

You are wonderful and I hope the negative comments don’t get to you.

[@delightfulkissboy8926]

Eyy appreciate it, they don't and they're few and far between anyway 👌 Most ppl are great

[@emmersksksksk]

Got a ton of crypto ads on this video, algorithm working as intended (?)

[@aidan818]

we always love waking up to a new addition to the kissboy cinematic universe 🔥

[@DidObamaCare]

Thank you Joe Swanson. You have gotten me one hour closer to the end of my work shift

[@Lembo101]

Thank you for shooting down the Martingale. People forget that making your bet grow exponentially is indeed quite risky, especially considering that the house advantage doesn't magically go away when you implement it.

[@RikaBarasuishou]

I love how the commentator says that martingale with infinite bankroll is a guaranteed win, while casinos for this very reason have max bets. And a variety of other reasons ofc, like Mr. Yeast coming to bet 50m bucks (he-he) on 00 and bankrupting multiple casinos with a single win would be a pretty nasty scenario.

[@Vonias]

31:36 I can't stop laughing at the use of a random screencap from some analogue horror video to represent the concept of losing at gambling... it's not even like relevant or containing a "you lose" quote or something, it's just a "scary... y'know, bullshit image" as DKB so eloquently phrased it. This channel is peak 🙌

[@Gamerextra1029]

Hi, new subscriber here. It's so refreshing to see these vids from someone who understands gambling so well but doesn't promote it. Meanwhile 80% of gambling videos on youtube are like "CHECK OUT HOW THIS ONE BLUFF SHOVE IN POKER CAN MAKE YOU 500$ AN HOUR !1!1!!"

[@PseudoCorp]

The Martingale strategy was always so funny to be because by linearity of expectation, deliberately betting MORE money when you lose just makes your expected loss increase faster, yet people just see "oh I will win 99% of the time" as a bonus

[@aetherarcanist4819]

3:59 is just in the wrong channel, I love watching your videos while i have lunch and I appreciate the yapping that's what I'm here for!

[@crusade6918]

buckshot roulette music kicking in at 11:15 got a giggle out of me

[@FrancMcStien]

Amazing video, loved the plot twist even though i should have expected it

[@whodistoodis]

The legion of Delightful Kissbots are here yet again to give me another wonderful hour analysis of an activity I have never taken part it. Beautiful.

[@bbenny9033]

this was one of the questions the last vid left me with so its great that you expanded on it! would love to see another dlc video on card counting as its the other "true guaranteed 100% time win" gambling strat that gets touted online but im under the impression it actually works? anyway thanks for making statistics interesting lol

[@Collinscody01]

Card counting, if done properly (and that’s the key part) actually does mathematically give you an edge over the casino…which is why casinos will ban you from playing blackjack if they suspect you to be card counting.

[@walugusgrudenburg3068]

It does, when done perfectly, on a standard payout (some are lower) blackjack table, give you a mathematical edge. But all casinos have the ability to kick you out at any time, and will make use of that right if they suspect you're doing it. (otherwise they'd all be bankrupt)

[@black_koolaid]

Came for the buckshot content, stayed for the gambling videos, these are genuinely awesome, subbed 🙏

[@arthurquiliao2675]

I love that Mr. Kissboy decided to prove Mr. Meanie guy right in the awesomest way possible.

[@elliotdinero9559]

“Let’s call him Mr Yeast” Yeah, this is gonna be good

[@DaComrade]

After watching this video I feel simultaneously that my time was wasted, but also learned something very valuable. An impressive feat.

[@tribitx]

Very interesting. Love your channel.

[@mikeschubert4023]

These videos are essentially the newest testaments of the Bible

[@AverageGuy96008]

I loved this video. I was trying to figure out why it was varying and figured it had to do with the number of games played. Love the reveal and explanation though

[@Funnyanimals1064-t1m]

The Spinner, as you call it, Is actually called a 'Pie Chart'.

[@delightfulkissboy8926]

Well I'll be dammed

[@ChannelTheGamer]

I love this series so much. Thank you

[@rogo7330]

Win strat: buy a hot dog, ask for a room cleaning job, walk out with money and buy another hot dog.

[@arthanol4972]

DKB is that guy at the company meeting whose powerpoints you actually wake up for

[@pacmanpowerghost]

I was not expecting my name on the video. Love your content man keep up the amazing work!

[@FallonRasmus]

the delightful kissboy guaranteed win strat actually does guarantee a win because you'll always get to eat a hotdog eventually

[@CallMeCardboard]

Waiting to see if a bot has my government name, like looking for the right coke bottle for real

[@FM-vr4my]

love your gambling stuffs

[@arsray7285]

love gambling

[@eziobeccio]

Amazing job brother, wish you the best

[@csercser3137]

Wow, I should go watch the entire tier list video again

[@michaelvickerstaff7757]

delightful kissboy? more like delightful youtube video maker

[@vaughnblakely7595]

I "invented" martingale when I was in middle school gambling in game currency in I can't remember what game. If people really think math, so simple an elementary school student could understand it and implement it, could beat the odds at a casino they need help.

[@gemstone7818]

this is absolute top notch gambling analysis

[@JL-dance]

my favorite kisser uploaded, day improved

[@LegoLad659]

The most unbelievable thing in this video is that there are people out there who believe that having a personality is "useless chatter"

[@kehlery]

you should make a video like this explaining how sports gambling is basically just a coin flip with a house edge, i feel like so many more people are deceived by sports betting

[@MCisAwesome95]

To sum everything up, there are two strategies. The first strat is: Step 1: bet small Step 2: win Step 3: feel lucky and bet big Step 4: move into your brand new cardboard box And for the second (and my personal recommendation) of the two strats: Step 1: stop betting money you can't afford to lose lmao

[@somegaiden]

Obviously the best strat is to use divination powers to see into the future. If you're gonna lose, bet the minimum, and if you're gonna win, bet it all; easy money! ...Oh wait, that's not a thing people can do. I'll just go buy that hotdog, then.

[@bigprovola]

Your gambling video gave me the idea of opening the world's first positive expected value casino. You would cash out in counterfeit poker chips that you can take to the casino next door.

[@guyindastreets]

What a great video to start the day listening to

[@nosidenoside2458]

Have you heard of Liar's Bar? It's a game I think is alright. It's got some elements of buckshot roulette and some card elements. A countable amount of about 4 types of cards, and you put up to three cards in the middle of the table. The person after you can call you a liar, and if any of the cards you put down aren't the card of the round you have to do one shot of russian roulette. After someone does a round, the cards are reshuffled, redistributed, the card of the round is rerolled, and it starts again. Some flaws but fun with friends; might be fun to dissect, but.might be not fun.

[@panofnoodlez1377]

He got the bot army

[@Beatosrs]

nothing like drinking 30-31 beers watching the new kissboy video

[@TheDisorganizedNerd]

I tuned out for most of the video while reading something, and the moment I tuned back in it was you admiting to wasting time and there always being a house edge.

[@JSt0rm99]

buckshot roulette background music goes hard

[@jcat1854]

Masterpiece of a video. Was both bam and boozled!

[@xiutecuhtli15]

I think for the strategies that beat minimum betting in the average, it's just because they tap out early, so they gamble less than the minimum betters did.

[@taliesine.8343]

Best betting strategy: make no bets your entire life Second best betting strategy: Make only one bet your entire life

[@bird5306]

Strategy was unclear, bought a bratwurst instead

[@Jasmixd]

Going to a casino, making one huge bet and immediately leaving regardless of the outcome is such a gigachad move though. Second only to not going in the first place.

[@pastaace6431]

better twist at the end than glass onion

[@ookami38]

Interesting with the martingale, it looks like as your number of rounds goes up, while the odds of winning overall get smaller, your losses get more marginal. I'm curious to see what the numbers do as you push them towards infinity. Obviously, this doesn't represent a realistic scenario, but it is an interesting trend, regardless.

[@skeltaldelegate5408]

Before anyone gets too excited, always keep in mind that EV is only helpful when playing many hands (or trials) to regress to the expected mean and mitigate variance. Playing one night of poker won't give you statistically accurate results.

[@uiron5755]

Oh yeah I was waiting for this one

[@sunnohh]

Optimal system, buffet, concert, no gambling

[@JibrilPC]

mr kissboy you strike me as a tenured professor

[@nicholaspearce2250]

YEAH BABY! MORE KISSBOY… I’m not crazy you are.

[@realGBx64]

Instructions unclear, sausage stuck between hot dog buns

[@pastelroswell]

Not Mr. Yeast 😂

[@JoshDiazDOP]

Love these videos despite never setting foot in a casino.

[@connorsimpler3773]

50:37 All roads lead to hot dog

[@sunname6252]

Here's my best strategy: Whatever money you went in with is all the money you have to gamble, when it's inevitably gone, time to go home. We aren't playing to get rich, we're playing for the excitement of the maybe.

[@goforgrim]

Delightful Kasino Boy back at it