I Off-Road The Fully Electric Wrangler Magneto 2.0: Is This The Future Of Jeep?

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[@johnnyboxhead5289]

Great job with the Magneto 1.0 and now the 2.0! I’m a long time Jeep owner, I currently have a 2018 JLUR (manual), and I’m waiting on an all electric Wrangler with decent range for my next vehicle. The day you offer it, I will place my order, and I’m sure there are many others out there just like me. Bonus points if you offer it in a manual. I will also say, I don’t need the extreme hp/torque, I’ll would prefer 300hp and 300 miles of range over 650hp and 200 miles (or less) of range. Hearing that the Wrangler 4xe is the #1 PHEV, just proves that if you build it, they will come …

[@martinkeith]

I couldn’t agree more. I am on my 5th Wrangler, and NOT because they have ever given me troubles (just life circumstances). I don’t use them for off-road at all. I am in love with the form factor (and occasional 4x on icy conditions). So I am top-down, doors-off for 6 months out of the year in Nashville, TN. The MOMENT an EV Wrangler with 4x4 (should I even have to say that?) is offered in a decent range with a manual transmission (all mine have been manual) at a reasonable price, I will factory order mine and have it wrapped in the specific plaid that is my family Scottish Tartan. My dream car is an EV Wrangler in plaid.

[@Rooples]

I really hope they make it a 2 door first when they do release a ev wrangler or at least have a 2 door option.

[@Wezi427]

I'd like to see a hybrid for a two-door.

[@notlogical4016]

The concept is a 2 door, I would assume they would sell it as a 2 door

[@TheCapn23]

Americans are too fat, we need 4 doors

[@nicolec7290]

I’m so sick of the 4 door. The reason behind that is. In the old days you could bye your wife a wagon & the old man with a truck. We are so poor these days. We can only afford 1. So the make it to fit both scenarios

[@BumbleBeeJBG]

"Tell us in the comments!" and then comments immediately are like, "Do the thing only a few of us want, most people won't buy and won't be profitable!" lolol I'll take a 2-door too please. :)

[@braamraubenheimer4946]

Awesome but is still love the sound that my Jeep with sprintex supercharger makes ! Never gets old !!

[@TJY2K]

Please continue the development with the two door! The 2 door looks like it doesn't get much love compared to the 4 door as far as powertrain options. I cannot wait to one day drive/buy one!

[@katiatannus3146]

I would hate a two door jeep wrangler, because I'm really tall so I can't fit in them

[@sdallnct]

Have a 2door and u get all my money!

[@mattbrew11]

@@katiatannus3146 we don’t care

[@TJY2K]

@@katiatannus3146 4 door is the same for the driver position

[@axel3895]

@@katiatannus3146 are you planning to be chauffeured around in a Jeep

[@sandagers71]

Love it. Waiting to buy our next Wrangler until we have a fully electric

[@hikeclimbsail]

Out in the desert or parked in the sun, would be awesome to have solar panels as an option for roof top energy sourced straight to the battery for recharge.

[@chadgammon9890]

Having just bought our first EV and a 21’ Gladiator ecodiesel owner that offroads frequently, I would say 250 miles of range and DC fast charging are minimum but when it comes to range more is better however can easily be offset by FASTER Charging! Thanks guys for a great video and concept!

[@Jet.Endlight]

Only thing is faster charging is more harmful to the lifespan

[@chadmarcigan4693]

Wow! That was an exhilarating test drive! I listened to all of the mind blowing specs just to see a candy ass golf cart stroll.

[@plexx88]

Full electric Gladiator! I'm excited about the future of electric Jeeps. My only hesitation is range, which I know will get better. Personally, for the trips I do, I think a 400 mile range would be the goal.

[@atodaso1668]

Tesla barely do that with highway tires and aerodynamics

[@mattbrew11]

@@atodaso1668 that doesn’t matter

[@atodaso1668]

@@mattbrew11 how so?

[@mattbrew11]

Different form factors. How much can be fit a the benefit of multiple gear reduction options will yield completely different options. Kinda the same thing as comparing the off road capabilities of a crossover to a solid axle jeep.

[@atodaso1668]

@@mattbrew11 Yeah I guess they could put a 250kwh battery pack and make a 9000+ pound jeep. But would you pay the $150k price tag for it? I don't think you understand what you are asking for. Tesla's get more range by being very aero dynamic and having low rolling resistance tires. A jeep is the opposite of those.

[@findango]

Having an unstallable manual electric vehicle is an amazing idea. This softens the blow a little, coupled with the incredible power/torque possibilities.

[@1970351C2V]

A manual transmission/clutch is pointless in an EV.

[@notlogical4016]

@@1970351C2V no it’s really not

[@1970351C2V]

@@notlogical4016 Go ahead and tell me why. There's no reason.

[@psychologicaltirefire8190]

@@1970351C2V Whats the point of a manual transmission today. They're worse in almost every aspect except one...the fun factor. The same applies here...it's more fun.

[@TheDeezelsmoke]

@@1970351C2V Could be very useful when rockcrawling. If the gear ratio was high and fixed for street driving, like a Tesla for instance, you would be more likely to get wheelspin when climbing. Imagine trying to offroad a Cummins but only being able to use fifth gear.

[@alexorcas1]

manual transmission on an electric jeep is 100% my new dream vehicle. I bet that gear reduction makes the offroad EV range significantly better.

[@billybobbob3003]

REAL JEEPS HAVE 2 THINGS A SPARE TIRE AND JERRY GAS CANS ON THE BACK, UNTILL PORTABLE BATTERIES EXIST TO RECHARGE AN EV OUT IN THE WILD OVERLANDING LIKE YOU CAN A TRADITIONAL JEEP IT'S A USELESS OFFROAD VEHICLE. ''BRING ME A GALLON OF ELECTRICITY'' ROFL!

[@alexorcas1]

@@billybobbob3003 yup, no argument against that for overlanding. For a day of wheeling, 100 miles of off-road range would be more than enough for a sunrise to sunset day of wheeling in Moab, assuming you could actually get that much range out of one. That’d probably be like 400+ miles of on-road range to get that though. Still probably a few years out. I’m open to new things though.

[@AgentSmith911]

Wouldn't it be just fine with a single speed with low gearing though? You'll get plenty of torque regardless.

[@alexorcas1]

@@AgentSmith911 idk, the range they got in the 4xe off-road in full electric was only like 2-4 miles compared to the 27ish it’s supposed to get on road. I wonder if further gear reduction would have helped.

[@guyod1]

@@alexorcas1 you don't need low gear with electric. If anything a powerful electric motor will have too much torque for off road. It can all be managed electrically.

[@sorenmelchior]

I love the idea, and its super nice to see a concept that I might want to purchase (if it has enough range), though it may need a solar panel on the hood to help extend that range. Big pluses are... 2 Doors, Dana 60/80, and 40's on bead-locks. Though for here in Alaska it would need a hard top, and enough power to maintain not just mobility/range, but also to keep the occupants warm at -40F while still maintaining enough range at those low temperatures to travel 400 miles (that's what is needed for Alaska use). And that's the real kicker... maintaining that range on an electric in cold temps while also powering the cabin heaters to keep the drivers alive when batteries are notoriously less efficient at those temps. Because breaking down somewhere 50+ miles from any charging facility at -40 could be life threatening if one runs of juice. And in the winter, when it's cold here, is also when we have the least amount of daylight, thus less solar energy to gain to recharge. And that is why a fossil fuel Jeeps will still going to be needed in sub arctic and arctic area's for some time to come.

[@alexjez2061]

The math has been done to death on solar panels on cars, and there just isn't enough surface area to provide a benefit to installing panels on a car.

[@lukefarris556]

Ah man the manual is so dope, and I think electric manual transmissions are what is gonna keep them engaging

[@allterrainrandy2587]

Multiple gears are really pointless. Just go with a better motor.

[@jims4036]

Even Tesla has gearing.. it’s just fixed…

[@allterrainrandy2587]

@@jims4036 there, happy now? ;)

[@theengineer704]

Please do not wait forever for something we needed years ago. Stay competitive and have it out soon.

[@chadlegaultgmail]

Thank Magneto is beautiful and my new dream truck. If there was a poster, it would be on my wall as a kid. Seriously

[@dalejones4322]

Really cool concept. Amazing how Jim reads the comments. Jim, it would be great to have an electric vehicle like Tommy's Willys. 250 or better range and priced similar to his Jeep. Is that even possible? I have no idea if a battery big enough for that range would fit the jeep or if the costs of said battery would make it way more expensive. Thanks guys for a very cool video. Let's me know these comments are a possible way to communicate with the guys that make decisions on our vehicles.

[@mattbrew11]

Cost as little as tommys willys? Lmao

[@WilliamStewart1]

Well you'd need about a 90 kw/h battery pack to have that type of range out of a jeep. You'd also have to do something interesting with the motors. You'd either need 4 motors (one for each wheel) or keep the axles and have them driven by a motor each so you could have adequate traction. A true 4 motor jeep with a 90 kw pack and you'd be over 100k.

[@dalejones4322]

@@WilliamStewart1 thanks for the info. That answers that question. Hopefully one day

[@arctici1ce]

4 motors, plus all that rotational mass of 40’s plus it’s shaped like a box. It’s a super cool concept with a hell of a lot horsepower, but they aren’t gonna say the range yet because there’s no way there’s that much range on such a non efficient vehicle.

[@danthechevymanc6b475]

Jim, please build a 2 door 392 and include some of the styling from this Jeep. We are still waiting for the 2 door Gladiator that resembles the J6 concept as well. By the way, it would be interesting to see Jeep build an ATV.

[@FreeRangeLemon]

No handshake for Tommy :(

[@sorrywrongnumber5280]

Whenever there's a fully electric jeep, please please please let it be available with 2 doors and a manual transmission. Even if it has lower power like 280 or 300hp that's ok. Just please let it be available with 2 doors and a manual transmission

[@Teslavangelist]

Like the idea of manual. But mum on potential range so far. Would've like to hear more about that than "hey this time we oversized everything c/t the 1.0!"

[@lachumbley]

I would absolutely buy a fully electric Jeep. Looking forward to production.

[@stig120212]

The fact that someone like Jim in his position to take time to talk to youtubers and what a good relationship TFL has with him, show his passion and how proud he is of the product he puts out .... and his commitment to the consumers

[@Gscj51964]

I would be happy with a 2 door base Wrangler Magneto 2.0 with a range of 60 - 100 miles on all electric at around $30,000. Bring it on!!😍

[@JoeSmith-nu8oo]

🙏 For that miracle!!!

[@MrChadx1]

Yep, keep the price down like a Willys. Keep the heavy duty offroad axles, etc. and give me manual windows, cloth seats, minimal infotainment. I was an EV Wrangler that is barely more than an enclosed UTV with HVAC! Spend the money on the battery and offroad goodies and not on the creature comforts. I'll buy.

[@marcpikas2859]

That sounds like it wouldn’t be viable. They make the most money on all the extra comfort features. That’s why their prices have skyrocketed. They run a business and low cost is not in their vocabulary.

[@MrChadx1]

@@marcpikas2859 Lots of reasoning and decision making, but if it is the difference between a buyer making a purchase or not AND they are to the point where they are producing more high end than are selling (supply catches up with demand), then there is hope.

[@marcpikas2859]

@@MrChadx1 👍

[@gumboboy5446]

Very cool concept

[@Mursedave]

I love how this guy says, “let’s not focus on range.”

[@bradq2769]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for making a manual. That is awesome!

[@cliftonleathercraft]

I just want to see it for sale!!!

[@LAKERS4LIFE247]

I would absolutely love to have a 2-door magneto

[@howardcordova3036]

I would love to see the 4xe gladiator with the 3.0 eco diesel paired to the electric motor. Also please add factory break controller to the gladiator. This was one of the main deciding factors of why I got rid of my gladiator and didn’t purchase another one. I know I could add aftermarket one but I prefer factory options and not having to instal one myself as do many. And finally I think everyone can agree on one topic and that’s affordability, most people can’t afford 40k plus so it would be nice to have an affordable option with the new and upcoming without feeling like you are having to settle or worse not purchase a jeep. Cheers

[@mattbrew11]

$40k isn’t much money anymore thanks to joe

[@Tethmes]

My comment to Jim and the wrangler team is that I love all the new tech, and I'm excited for the future. But please!!!! Keep the old school experience around as an option as well! Though it may not be the biggest seller, as long as naturally aspirated manual transmission wranglers exist, there will be those who will buy them. I recently ordered and purchased just that instead of the Bronco specifically because it was naturally aspirated despite the price of a similarly equipped bronco being way cheaper.

[@xTinBenderX]

Mopar electric crate motor?

[@twofacedconker4900]

The 4xe is pretty dope as well ever since I saw TFL mountain climb of it makes me want to upgrade mine

[@ignacioportela1462]

This is my first KZbin comment. I'm only writing this because Jim's team sees it. I have been holding on buying an SUV for 3 years, because I want an all electric one. I have a spot reserved for the Cybertruck, but if Jeep makes an all Electric Wrangler, SIGN ME UP. Hope to see it in the Puerto Rican market in 2 years.

[@TaigaTurf]

Really cool truck

[@elelyon555]

That’s one cool Jeep! Hope it goes into production 👍🏼😍

[@zoefaith120]

Jim.... you freaking awesome 👌

[@dirf554]

Love it!

[@cowboyhigby]

Love it can't wait to see one on the market, also need a 4xe Gladiator

[@luisgutierrezjr1513]

I love the clear hood

[@ksb2112]

Love it. My only immediate question is what about winches? They pull a huge amount of current.

[@BRAVOACTUAL]

I am verrrry interested in what they can do when they do Cold Weather Range and performance testing. Northen Ontario roads in winter are NOT great especially when they arent plowed and its -45 out, and youve gotta drive into work or town for errands. EXCITED!

[@sardog012]

It's good to see this concept in a 2 door but, otherwise, it feels like the 2 doors are being left out of the best in production. While it makes sense to make sure that the 4 doors are covered since that sells much better than the short Jeeps, the 2 doors are the heritage of the company and there will always be a segment that is "2 doors or no doors".

[@lanceripplinger8352]

That is a pretty slick concept. You could do some crazy crawling with that thing.

[@WatersWest]

Yes Jim, build this Jeep! Love the LJ dimensions. LOVE the manual transmission. Really want an all-electric Jeep Wrangler, Please!

[@riiko92]

Love it.

[@thinkingape7655]

Sweet Jeep 🤩

[@MayaPavon]

LOVE IT , ITS SO CUTE

[@Behroozplt]

Jeep gotta sell those fenders... all the fenders they are showing in this year easter Safari are amazing

[@optix4204]

Drove my first jeep today at the dealer. Smoother than expected!

[@RyanRKJ]

I was pleasantly surprised when I drove a JL for the first time too. So many reviews make it sound harsh and terrible.

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

Wranglers are not meant for everyone but that is why they make a plethora of Models to find a perfect seat for every behind. I am really hoping Jeep brings the Renegade 4Xe to the US Market we love our 2018 Renegade model and it has been stellar not one problem whatsoever in the 3 years of ownership, It has handled everything the Texas Bipolar weather can throw at it with ease. I am also pondering purchasing a Gladiator as well to replace my Dodge Dakota that has served me reliably for 23 almost 24 years now ! I will keep the Dodge and rebuild it and give it a babied life it deserves after years of faithful service.

[@optix4204]

@@MichaelSmith-kr9qw Agreed. Ive been dreaming of getting a wrangler for some time now. Finally being able to experience the newer model definitely put a smile on my face. My brother got to test drive the car after me and didn’t feel the same… I’m just glad it didn’t feel like driving my dads old TJ.

[@mattbrew11]

Jeeps are quite competent on the road. Yeah they ride bad compared to an independent suspension crossover suv but thats part of the charm imo. My gladiator is my favorite vehicle ive ever owned and ive owned a lot of them, many a lot more expensive

[@wongway40]

EV gears sounds like a cool idea. It reminds me of a RC Jeep we had as kids and it would chop down to a lower gear when you drove it onto the sheepskin rug, then as soon as you hit lino again it would change up to high speed again and yeet off

[@5183p]

Looks good on paper and to the EPA, wheeled last month at Palo Duro canyon and my camp site did no have a charging station in the canyon and the 4E wranglers on the trip had no power in their battery on the trail, all gas’s weekend!

[@tevinweatherspoon7278]

I think Tommie was going for a handshake in the beginning and Jim didnt catch it lol

[@roosterdesousa9677]

I’m getting one for sure, maybe two!

[@Jon_AdventureHound]

Awesome 😎 Great content as always. Looking forward to what’s coming next.

[@sonsofliberty3081]

Expand the back a few feet and you would have an awesome single cab short bed truck.

[@bruceklassen8261]

I am intrigued

[@anom7422]

Tommy your interview skills are phenomenal. Keep it up.

[@dachunglo]

I WANT ONE SO BAAAAAD!!! I've committed to not buying another ICE vehicle, but I miss having a Wrangler. Looking forward to the day I can buy one again!

[@Rotisseriechicken1200]

The wheelbase looks longer. More space behind the door and rear fenders.

[@KevinSatterthwaite]

Its stretched 12 inches

[@directedbydon]

Please keep the 2 door with 4 seats for the electric wrangler. And fast charging too!

[@shannonhamilton9513]

This might be able to be an off the shelf 300 foot drag monster

[@femiakinyemi7168]

Wrangler Jeep have really done well am surely going to buy one of this babies

[@sgt.grinch3299]

This is nice. Will it have a towing capacity for a teardrop trailer? Gotta have both to stay and play. Great interview.

[@Trax_travels]

How about Swappable Battery Packs or some kind of option to carry additional range. We Overlanders carry spare fuel tanks for a reason. Sometimes you can't avoid going beyond your range. Getting someone to share gas with you or run and grab gas or using your spare fuel is easy. Trying to get charged up in the middle of nowhere is a totally different story.

[@Bye_All_Means]

I have a 4xE, driven 10 different full electric cars. I can imagine 800 torque and 700HP from a full electric Jeep.

[@kaelandoucette7608]

these soft tops are sick that are on the Bobed and the Magneto 2.0 would love to see mopar offer them for wranglers and gladiators.

[@adamweber1545]

Jim, cool concept, but please don’t stop making the 392. I am waiting for Jeep to bring back the 392 w/Xtreme Recon package. I am ready to place my order as soon that happens.

[@samjoiner7955]

I usually hate electric vehicles but seeing that this Jeep comes with a manual transmission and a 2 door option is pretty cool, thats what makes it a real Jeep

[@MrSlingblade69]

He burned you on the handshake.. lol

[@lorddylanwolford3192]

I would love to see some insight on the new renegade that was recently released in Brazil hoping that it makes its way to the us very very soon definitely want one

[@dist3allaround]

BUILD IT!!! TWO DOOR!! MANUAL!!! OMG, this things is ssoo cool looking and would be awesome to drive and own!!

[@mikecrystalrobert7898]

That was the slowest 600+ hp drive I’ve ever seen

[@MrWhymetoo]

The Jeep personal will not let them drive it normally, it should have been stated in the video.

[@stanleykuria952]

😂😂

[@aarongregory382]

Dear Jeep: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE debut a 4xe version of the two door! I NEED one! The 4xe is so awesome!

[@mattbrew11]

The ecodiesel is better than the hybrid

[@AntonCohen]

Take the 4xe seriously. Make sure it isn't crippled in comparison with other powertrains. For example the Wrangler 4xe computer is limited to 4.50 gears, so even the 4.88s from Jeep can't be used, which in turn makes 37s+ a problem. Offer the Xtreme Recon package with the 4xe. Make the (likely) upcoming Rubicon 20th Anniversary package available with the 4xe.

[@bskarpa]

I’m actually looking fwd to an all electric Jeep just for the power and quietness out on the trails. Just need to get farther than 21 miles

[@ZachBrimhall]

Cool concept Jeep. Wish you could actually drive it on a couple trails

[@lelandeggleston1041]

Already contacted my Jeep dealer to be notified when I can buy one.

[@KTMcaptain]

I want those fenders

[@robbisom5363]

I have a 4xe Rubicon and I would ideally love a Wrangler Rubicon with even 500/500 but with 400 miles of range and a LEVEL 3 CHARGER!

[@korrasatsuki8773]

If Jeep was too offer a 2 door electric Wrangler I would be at the dealership faster than a Hellcat while also dragging everyone I know with me. That would be the perfect drive around the tight city vehicle and tear up the Michigan mud and dunes on the weekends vehicle!

[@joshuayoung1665]

One big thing Jeep brand needs to hear. Give us the option to select the best factory suspension parts on a base model. We want Rubicon capability without the LUX package. We want a Wrangler we can get dirty without having to worry about the heated leather seats and NAV. We like half doors and rubber floors, and please please figure out how to get the factory mirrors off the doors!

[@lowtechderrick]

Gladiator electric 2 door manual in the 200 kW range with vehicle to grid kit - I want one!

[@Teslavangelist]

wonder if some active aero fenders or active front air displacement could improve highway efficiency compared to usual brick-in-the-wind aerodynamics. Looking forward to wrangler EV

[@redneckphysics]

I really hope they keep the single motor. Those independent motors on the hummer and Rivian just don't pencil out when you wheels start bobbing in the air. I won't be too mad if they switch to a single speed transmission as long as they keep a two speed transfer case.

[@tarfeef101]

Well Jim if you're reading this I want the renegade 4xe in North America!!! We don't all want massive vehicles, but still want something efficient that'll handle FSRs and the like

[@robertnotman310]

Sounds just like my 1/6 scale WW2 jeep. LOL. I love that you don't want to talk about the distance in the electric vehicle. What is the typical distance covered in MOAB on a tank of gas? What percentage distance can this vehicle make? Carry a spare can of gas? Maybe a spare battery?

[@4literv6]

With those tires that brick like shape and only 70kwhs? Might go 100-150miles, half that off road though probably. Also yes they make man portable pack's of 3-8kwhs you can take along with you like a spare "gas can"

[@mattbrew11]

Range is irrelevant this is a concept.

[@MikeHuffman410]

I might be out of line here but the new straight six in the gladiator would be my pick...

[@yeahbabyracing9562]

That thing is sick. 4Xe needs to land in the Gladiator and the Grand Cherokee L now and/or electrify the hurricane motors for the other Jeep products…but please don’t detune those power trains 🙏🏻 Love the Jeep brand 💪🏻💪🏻

[@ALMX5DP]

Well to be fair, the current 4xe are electrified hurricane engines (the 4 cylinder is the same hurricane architecture).

[@mattbrew11]

The 4xe is a shit offering for the gladiator because of the tow rating

[@jerex112]

good job jeep. seriously

[@DestDroid]

THIS. Is exactly what I want. I don't need 40s or 60s, but fully electric and with a stick (assuming it actually adds some value) would get me into the showroom immediately.

[@stephentroyer3831]

There's no way it needs that many gears, but having two ranges plus an entire manual transmission in it should help everyone figure out which 2 or 3 gears are the most useful. And it helps get gearheads on board by having an actual old school manual.

[@jamiered7102]

Then you can do expensive repairs on it. Exactly what the dealer wants 👎

[@mfam2371]

Peep the jeep overlook in the background

[@BM17Springfield]

Make a Mopar retrofit kit for our JLs/JTs/JKs! If we get pressed into this electrification world, we want to still use our Jeeps!

[@QuickShifts]

When will we get a plug in Gladiator? When will we get full electric wranglers and gladiators?

[@Propelled]

Just drove our Wrangler from Yuma to Tacoma in two and a half days. I think the dead time in an EV would have made it hell. The remote sections through northern Nevada would have been impossible.

[@bendmacmanufacturing2744]

It's the future , I love my 4xe !

[@furryballUser]

Hey Jim, how about a phev Grand Wagoneer w/10 degrees rear-steering and the capacity to do 50 to 60 miles on a full charge! Thanks!!

[@trishaleaver3581]

You could have range extender portable battery packs that could be removed at the site to reduce weight. I do that with my e mountain boards.

[@pajamatime5750]

Hopefully in 2050

[@bobmathew3380]

This is it!!!!

[@jonpaulpepen9470]

I'm hoping we can see a 2-door wrangler with a serial hybrid powertrain; i.e. fully electric drive with an onboard gas "generator" to keep the battery charged for those long distance backcountry adventures.