I Played Without Aim Assist for 7 Days (Apex Legends)

Many Apex players say that us controller players, CANNOT survive without Aim Assist
well.....is that true?
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What would happen if Respawn removed Aim Assist COMPLETELY?
Nerfing Aim Assist has been a topic for the last few years,
a lot of people are switching to controller in Apex Legends, looking for the best settings for controller in Apex, or just playing on 4-3 Linear no deadzone in Apex Legends.
Well me being a controller player, I wanted to find out what would happen if Respawn actually
nerfed controller, nerfed aim assist and nerfed rotational aim assist on Apex Legends.
I turned off my Aim Assist with the best ALC settings, and challenged my self to survive 1 week playing Apex Legends without Aim Assist and well.....
you'll see what happened
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[@zHazedz-r6h]

"If it was so easy, everyone would do it." They are. In every game that has AA.

[@GaaraFPS]

It’s so easy and everyone is doing it…

[@priyadarsihalder9242]

Well yeah everyone is doing it. I am doing best of both world. Keyboard and mouse for movement then switch to controller for that aim hack. Before I used to get 5 to 6 kills a match with only mouse and keyboard. Now I sometime get 20 kills. Well now I won't go back.

[@TobaccoStrongBoy]

how can one say that aim assist is not op when the motto is: "don't do much, let it pull for you"?

[@Juicygamingnews]

its kine that said this right? if it is, he litterally told mande if they didn't have aim assist he would get 30-0 destroyed by some mnk pros, but aim assist isn't strong lol.

[@chaos6329]

He said that because mnk is better for aiming than some sticks. It's a thumb compared to an arm which is why aim assist is a thing in the first place.​@@Juicygamingnews

[@Juicygamingnews]

​@@chaos6329 so people get coding to aim for them for an attempt at artificial equality? if you cant hang with raw skill go to the minor leagues. hes booting great raw aim players and skill players that could have his spot if coding wasn't aiming for him. he said if aim assist didn't exist he would be applying for a job at a gas station in that same clip and people with better raw skills than him get to apply to that gas station now instead because of the aiming software he gets. i feel for the people with true skill they should get his spot.

[@scottthesmartape9151]

@@Juicygamingnewsagainst pros no but against your average pc player yes

[@Lynxee3004]

​@Juicygamingnews while you do bring up a great point, you are drastically misunderstanding how aim assist works. Yes, it pulls for you, but that also comes with drawbacks. Say if you're in a room with multiple people, then aim assist is going to fuck you over just as much as it helps. When you keep dipping in and out of 3m range, it keeps turning on and off. If you're at medium range (25m) that is where it helps the most with tracking and whatnot. I've turned off aim assist, and I've noticed my shots don't feel like they're being interfered with, and my movement as well. It definitely takes a lot to get used to, but it's highly rewarding. I've played both inputs and I can definitely say that MnK is easier to get used to in the aiming department.

[@g_hutchey]

The production in this video is immaculate! love ur work man. keep this up and you'll be full time in no time

[@pyrusmasterdan1]

I love it. Missing shots like you’re supposed to be. Raw aim

[@nikobello8918]

U dumb bro? Console players cant do "flicks" like on mouse

[@connorflegal9575]

I actually turned off aim assist today after not playing for a month. It sucked at first but then I adapted and it’s actually not bad to feel your exact inputs. Just wish we, console and controller could tap strafe if we turn off aim assist

[@pyrusmasterdan1]

@@connorflegal9575a fair trade off in my opinion. i’m more than okay with that

[@justthere845]

​@@nikobello8918playstation and Nintendo players actually can flick in certain games.

[@DeconstructU2124]

its sad how bad u guys are, fantasizing over controller missing shots screams im not good

[@awsome14619]

You proved your point on the first day. You have hundres if not thousands of hours in apex. You are a good player. Then when AA is off, you lost all your games. The game is aiming for you.

[@itsroguely]

My first 2k hours were on mnk, i switched in october of last year

[@polish9017]

If you have a bit of common sense, you would realize that aim assist is really strong, but you still have to aim, when you remove AA suddenly, you wouldn't be used to it. So of course it would take days to get used to (coming from an mnk player)

[@amarrados226]

bro how do you even come to that conclusion? its called muscle memory if you are used to aiming a certain way bc of aim assist now its completely off muscle memory throws you off. he just proved that without any aim assist he improved a lot in a week. bc his brain had to relearn a new pattern

[@HS-ts5wf]

@@amarrados226 Yeah and still people are complaining or scared about AA getting nerfed. Cause they would finally have to actually practice with their aim lol.

[@yub5892]

@@itsroguely Way late of a reply, but as someone going from about 3k hours on MnK Masters to switching to controller, I have found playing without aim assist to be pretty easy to get the hang of when I decide to do it. Obviously not performing as well with AA on, but I think since we are already used to raw input, this type of raw input on controller feels pretty natural to us.

[@D4LL4S214]

That’s all I play on any game that has the option to turn off enemy tracking I’ve gotten decent but man does it get annoying when people with aim assist beam tf outta you

[@bigboar0074]

This video is so well made. Editing and pacing are amazing

[@nbainsonia]

Nice vídeo, well edited and a good idea

[@chicknlittl3348]

Video is so good! Deserves way more views keep grinding

[@skeley6776]

Ngl seeing u struggle and calling this a challenge is pretty funny to me because thats just normal for every MnK because we actually have to aim with our own hands 100% and not just 60% xD.

[@magnacrushersart572]

The problem is that sticks are worse at aiming but I've been playing splatoon on my friends switch maybe we could use the joystick + motion controlls as an option but i need to test that out.

[@ViciouzMigz]

Try no aim assist on a controller tho. You only have a small stick that you use with your thumb. It’s difficult

[@DeconstructU2124]

sticks is not equal to aiming with your hand, lol stop complaining

[@zapmando]

Argument ends if devs would implement gyro more often

[@ConspiracyCinema]

Comment for the algorithm!! 😮😮😮

[@itsroguely]

yessir, we love that!

[@zerocore_]

If only Xbox also had a gyro like PS5. Respawn could implement native gyro input as a replacement for AA and call it a day.

[@petrtitera4660]

When I saw this video, so motivated me to improve in Apex. and good video👍

[@itsroguely]

that's great to hear!

[@variant_420]

This is the quality content we need

[@RogueWraith]

So freaking dope my dude!!

[@itsroguely]

appreaciate you brotha

[@RoxxeeeTV]

Nice work 😊

[@xxchendricksxx1]

I had a very similar experience when I turned off aim assist for a while. My mid/long range was still okay. Micro adjustments weren't terribly hard to make. But tracking up close with any smg or the wingman was.. not good. I only played mixtape the first day and it was hell. Around hour 7 was when i could really start to feel myself tracking better and was finally on par with the top players in the lobbies again. All the days after were significantly better. But those first few hours suckedddddd. I almost gave up.

[@akumafuhen]

Good vid, one think about no aim assist is that disengaging from fights is alot easier, meaning you get all you yaw speed right away vs first breaking from the aa grip then you get full speed. And i think all they need to do is remove rotational aim assist but keep the slow down.

[@sheeshgt7075]

I feel like seeing this in a video is not as accurate as if you did this on stream. We can't see all the games, this could've been the 1 good game you had without AA - it's not a good portrayal having 1 good game out of 10 games, gives the wrong impression that controller doesn't need it. But in fact it does.

[@itsroguely]

if I include every game i got, it would make the video longer than it had to be. Of course I had bad games here and there, I had games where I didn't do much due to rng/ died off drop and had other games where I got 6 kills but didn't win and other good ones but i didn't like the flow. the point of the last game wasn't "hey look how insane i am, check this baanger game" it was all about the progress of getting used to not having AA. I get your point, i really do, but imo that would apply if the final game was about getting a high kill game without aim assist, which it wasn't the point but also I agree, doing this on stream would've been better, but I don't stream as of rn unfortunately

[@Nought_8]

Your aim without aim assist at the beginning is like me with aim assist no cap

[@itszaque5031]

Honestly this makes me want aim assist nerfed even more, you just showed that aim assist isn’t necessary for controllers to keep up/dominate mnk, so why shouldn’t it get adjusted? Lol I mostly kid, but still I gotta say this is a great video. It sounds like the devs are starting to acknowledge that the game is leaning towards controller dominance, so acknowledging that aim assist doesn’t make/break a players skill on the input is super relevant.

[@itsroguely]

they said they're taking a look at it, i don't think they'll nerf it, if anything they'll nerf what they like and that's SMGs, but i don't think they'll remove it comepletely and if they do i'd just go back to MnK cause there is no reason to use roller withouth it's benefits. I'll say this tho, majority of people who complain about aim assist in Apex haven't experienced aim assist in cod, now THAT it's actually broken, every pro knows it and they're not afraid to admit that that's why they're using it.

[@qtsuneudon123]

i agree with COD aa being broken in comparison to apex. that said COD has such a different system in regards to pro-play though, since in COD official competitive ruleset (not ranked or warzone) /every/ pro is input locked to controller ONLY. so even if the AA is broken in a way it's still "balanced" because there are no uneven level playing field vs mnk like in apex, everyone always has the same set of advantages and disadvantages consistently to their disposal.

[@Spiriton10-zi9tr]

I agree with you but the problem is that there’s people who are making macro for controller players to give mnk movement. But if we don’t talk about that it isn’t too unfair compared.

[@Astelch]

AA wouldnt be so broken if TTK in this game would be fast. Like 175 shield for red armor. Longer the TTK the better AA will be.

[@rb9951]

@@itsroguely lol >not so bad My dude had to pick the most extreme example to say it could be worse, kek. 4-3 linear 4-4 classic is an aimbot. It's not long range aim bot but it is for close:mid. Which hey, majority of fights in the game. Wdyk. I've played gm-top 100 on console and pc for over a decade. Done thousands of hrs on both inputs. You really are cappin if you think the AA in general hasnt gotten stronger over time. AA's problem is sheer consistency on said distances. If you have 95% accuracy, at all times, for most ranges where it matters, then there really is nothing else to say. You dont need to worry about recoil punch, visual clutter, detacting from track target, real hard readjusting, etc. Only mechanic you need to consider is recoil control. That's it. When you dont have AA on, suddenly, you lose consistency. Which is the biggest problem with AA existing in the first place. But it's not a big deal, right? So why are you so hardstuck on dickriding it if you know you can handle without? Is it maybe for the fact that maybe consistency is really powerful in general and that lil voice in your head knows you are full of shit saying you're fine without?

[@val.3171]

At least they have to make some delay or leave only slow down thing 🤔

[@Ace-fq8ji]

Your sprays be looking like M&K sprays lmao

[@219ghoulish9]

8:08 This hits different now LMFAOOOOOOO

[@Sora-vj8nc]

This video is sooo underrated ,I'm sad it only got 200 likes in 2 weeks :(

[@tahj2981]

Good vid

[@7w3n7y]

Great video!, But i think you should watch this other video to understand AA vs MnK from another perspective. I would link it if you want, i don't want to be disrespectful a link a video to another creator. BTW: The quality for your videos.... Amazing...

[@rekondaddy8109]

You without AA is better than me with AA😂

[@JCho133]

🔥🔥🔥 video

[@NaroInDaKut]

No ones talking about the production of this video

[@itsroguely]

some people are, and it makes me really happy hahaha, took sometime making this

[@Evelynyr]

love hearing controller players trying to downplay how OP aim-assist is, Love how he points out "In order to be come the best controller player" that it involves an immense amount of skill, Just like every PC fucker out there has only his input and that´s it, while controller player corssair will slow down to almost a full stop if a enemy gets in frame and then if he's 30-35m away the aim-assist can just kill the target for you, its stupid to downplay aim-assist - plus the start of the video you did super good without it on, I´d call that pure skill and it looks like most PC players out there, few shots off here and there - Example, if i got into Control game mode as Juckrat and i´ll get beemed in secounds i change to Bangalore and soon as a smoke the enemy i never get beemed, its super strange.

[@Evelynyr]

Your doing insane by the end of the video, Nice seeing how you totally overcame this challance.

[@ukoi9534]

Fr. When he was taking around 3 clips to kill a dummy I immediately thought to myself "what? isn't that the average effort you take to kill someone on mnk?"

[@Evelynyr]

@@ukoi9534 yeah, it looked so normal - beeming everything is what looks unreal

[@Icycrackedpanda]

1 it doesn’t slow down to almost stop that’s an exaggeration people playing on slow sens you literally can run out of their frame and aim assist does nothing … and the people that have a high sens have a slow ADS they still have to get on target for it to do anything.. Turning on aim assist doesn't not make you a better player and it doesn't just improve your aim to the point your 1 clipping everything that moves you still have to practice aiming those people that are really good at controller I guarantee have put in the hours to get to where they are which is why they can produce similar results with a bit of practice after turning it off. Yes it takes time to adjust when it's off your use to the crosshairs slowing down when you're close to or on target when you take that away it's almost like increasing your sense and you over shoot your target " I know this because I've done it" so with time you adjust to the non slow down and you get back to or very close to what you were before. Now when a good player goes back and turns it on they go through another adjustment period where now they're undershooting targets and they feel slow but this is short lived because now that the muscle memory is there for little micro adjustment "which is way harder on control than a mouse "I know this because I play both" that's when the demons come out because now it's slow they have the mechanics to adjust with in the range that's assisted and life becomes way harder for everyone that's within their crosshairs. Your average player isn't doing that these are people that get on talk shit and go to sleep they're not putting in the hours it takes to adjust to that level and unless they got full on aimbot they're not competing with nobody that's put those kinda hours in controller or MNK period

[@zee8166]

I play without aim assist and I thought my aim was just bad or something but it turns out I was playing against people who use aim assist

[@kageekao5524]

Once you turn it back on...

[@blackb1rd]

"my pk and wingman were below average" Literally hits the same amount of shots as I would on mnk : ' )

[@kuhgs]

Banger video

[@itsroguely]

appreciate you

[@drewzle837]

The editing and pacing of this video are incredible, excellent work🤌🏽

[@itsroguely]

thanks brotha i appreciate that a lot

[@sed46]

What happened when you turned aim assist back on afterwards? I feel like that is an important piece of info as well. Would doing this improve overall skill with aim assist back on or is it just improving your no AA skill?

[@IxhazeGT]

100% I turn aa off when i warm up! Try it out

[@jeremyariche4332]

It improves overall thumb control when playing without aim assist. But it won't lead to you becoming a controller demon

[@user-si5vn4jn5d]

@@jeremyariche4332what if you turn it off like he did then after a week or two of consistent playing won’t you get massively better. ?

[@jeremyariche4332]

@@user-si5vn4jn5d the point of controller is to figure out how to abuse aim assist. You need to have it on so you can figure that out obviously

[@Klipukai]

The song on day 7 sounds the fortnite chapter 2 thing

[@AlexAims]

Banger

[@rShira]

What an amazing video!! Enjoyed watching it for sure and might try the challenge out aswell

[@itsroguely]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@fishywtf]

Lol I used to play no AA, but the issue is. What's the point you just get shit on by level 40s with AA. And then when you run into a person who can actually strafe, it's hard af. The amount of hours you have to put in is a lot too

[@itsroguely]

well yeah, playing with no AA against other that do it's gonna put you in a great disadvantage, I just did it as an experiment.

[@zHazedz-r6h]

You just described playing on mouse and keyboard. Lol How does it feel bro? Sucks huh? 😂😂 *edit for spelling im high AF boi*

[@liamratliff3824]

​@@zHazedz-r6hit sucks even worse against mnk. Controllers have a massive deficiency compared to mnk movement.

[@alejandroalf729]

3:47 this is me even with aim assist, yeah.

[@itsroguely]

Gotta keep practicing then brother 🫡

[@KSI_Rogue]

Anyone else think this video format was different than expected? I was hoping to actually see the gradual progression from day 1 to day 7 (which i assumed the video was about because of the thumbnail and title) but most of the video is talking about playing with no aim assist With no actual gameplay progression.

[@itsroguely]

yeah that's the main thing i took from this, I like the format of story telling BUT I did end up cutting a bunch of gameplay parts to make the vid under 20 mins but it did ruin the gameplay part of the video a lil bit. I appreciate the feedback, will take it into consideration for future videos

[@KSI_Rogue]

@@itsroguely good to know you are on the same page, I understand not wanting to make a 40 minute video just wish there was more gameplay. Explaining how you contacted other players and got advice to help progress isn't bad content, I just was expecting more gameplay

[@itsroguely]

@@KSI_Rogue yee yee, i'll focus on that more for the next one

[@itsroguely]

@@KSI_Rogue yee yee i'll focus on that more for the next vid

[@KSI_Rogue]

@@itsroguely despite my criticism towards this video, I did subscribe and was going to look at your other videos, where have you been at? Haven't uploaded in 9 months? Edit: you made a video on the SBMM problem if you have been playing, how has the SBMM been since the retired the old SBMM and developed an updated one in season 20?

[@rdaxphantom2240]

This inspires me to get better at the game

[@itsroguely]

appreciate that a lot. Apex did that to me in general, ruined any other FPS game for me

[@ajr4878]

Should've asked snip3down and genburten about how op AA is 😂 absolutely wild how much people think they are the ones doing the aiming. It's not op when you're aiming for yourself and fighting it AA's control lmfao

[@WAZTEDPANDA]

"everybody would be doing it" oh look with every season we have more and more players switching from mnk to controller... yeah......

[@emersiv5631]

Wow missing shots like a normal human would....imagine that. I've seen a bunch of controller demons that don't use aim assist its definitely not needed. I feel like .2 would be the most reasonable place for pc and .3 for console.

[@bonekill6782]

Sucks to be me I can aim mid to long range but in close I’m worse than a senile grandma and I play controller

[@bonekill6782]

I don’t know how to fix close range I just miss every shot even with aim assist

[@Raptor999_]

controller having to practice aim and skill say it ain’t so

[@cezarstietot2417]

Rarahrah lifeline where are you ?!?!? Heal meeeeee

[@orionizaqt]

Truth is that if good controller players didn't need aim assist, they'd play on MnK. It's just better, but aim assist keeps good players using controllers. That's not to say that good controller players wouldn't still be good without aim assist, they clearly would still be good, but without aim assist, they'd be better off using MnK and that's not an argument anyone can win. That's just how it is. I don't actually want aim assist turned off as an MnK player, just tuned down a bit. Going down to .3 from .4 sounds about right to me, that and removing or turning down things like aim punch and sway that more negatively impact MnK players than controller players. Aim assist also can track through certain visual clutter like thermite grenades for example, so it could also help if they could turn it off when a player has that clutter blocking their view, since it's a huge advantage for controller players to have aim assist track through that clutter. Overall, I think just a bit a of tuning would really help to bring things in line and make for the most fair and balanced experience for everyone. I'd actually also be totally cool with removing a bit of movement tech that's exclusive to MnK to make things more fair as well, or even better, just letting controller players be able to do the same movement. Anyway, no disrespect to controller players, I just want the game to be fair and fun for the most people possible.

[@chrisrogers5890]

Hey, whats the song that you're using at 13:00?

[@itsroguely]

it's called "Outrun" by WEARETHEGOOD :)

[@chrisrogers5890]

@@itsroguely thank you much!

[@lilshizie0072]

Anyone know the song at the end?

[@lilshizie0072]

i found it, Are You Ready? - Castle Heist

[@riskyumbrella4874]

0:38 yes that is you, aim assist doesn't do that for you

[@skeley6776]

All this could easily be fixed if MnK and Controller simply had different lobbies but than again u might need to wait for an hour with the amount of MnK players left in this community

[@efecan1990]

they would come back

[@apacheslays1674]

controller is so easy and op thats why everybody switched at the pro level ....i started on controller grew up on consoles than switched to pc during covid decided to learn kbm because i enjoy apex movement but my 1 clips and ability to 1v3 hasnt been the same and ive mastered kbm now....aim assist is needed for those casual players but becomes way too op in the hands of any consistent player

[@innovance3788]

Not convinced a normal person would achieve that level of competency in that short a period of time. Dope Production/Editing and dope vid overall though!!

[@dordorica100]

define normal player....a work all day dad like me that can only play like 2 hrs or normal player that plays 8 to 12 hrs? im not saying it cant be done i know it can but for guys like me it will take a lot

[@itsroguely]

that's more of a casual player i believe, which is fine. "Normal player" here is referring to someone who's comparing himself to someone in the high level/semi pro level. I'm a normal player compared to them, they're the "good" controller players who have worked on their mechanics a lot more than i have, if that makes sense? I'm working towards that level but i'm not there yet (not comp, just mechanics) just gotta keep learning

[@strkerd]

Aside from ranked, in pro league, I believe people should be contending with their own abilities 100%. That's what a competitive player is supposed to be. Why would people go for a pro who is assisted 40~60% by aimbot?

[@enderbrahhd5149]

Bro, watching you play without aim assist made me realize that if they removed the aim assist everything would be more enjoyable, honestly.

[@buffpath]

The best apex creator

[@itsroguely]

appreciate u

[@nikobello8918]

Bring back old AA

[@Tangowastaken]

2:58 No aim assist and also no pulling down to control recoil. Turn your scripts off and see how well you play lmao

[@vivou5465]

The solution wouldn't be to just delete aim assist but to also add gyroscope functions. They are true controller demons who use gyro functions on games like Team Fortress 2, Splatoon or even CSGO. The solution is here but it would honestly scare most casual players because they'll have to seriously train and run routines to master their inputs like it's commonly done on mnk.

[@cremator-2fort]

I would love to use something like fli k sti k on roller, but my Xbox controller doesn't have gyro and Apex doesn't support it natively.

[@justarandomperson3700]

@@beansworldlive yeah it is. It just takes some getting used to if you already have controller muscle-memory built up. Once you get past that barrier your controller potential will shoot up.

[@catscatsonlycats1148]

did you re enabled aim assist?? how it went

[@itsroguely]

it felt great, smoother but what i noticed the most was that my centering improved a lot more. I still play without AA in the range to warm up tho

[@catscatsonlycats1148]

@@itsroguely well i might give that a try for a week

[@fernandosouza0308]

MnK players really complaining bout aim assist when they literally use the movement of their whole arm to aim precisely versus players that are aiming with their thumb 💀

[@joshuaannakie2333]

SO THANKS FOR CONFIRMING THAT THEY CAN JUST TAKE AIM ASSIST AWAY AND ITS DO-ABLE TO PLAY WITH OUT IT. EA TAKE IT AWAY

[@itsroguely]

hahahaha, at least now i know if they nerf it i'll be ok

[@treyjeffery9605]

If they take AA away it's only right that they take the ability to tap strafe away

[@FemboyGamer496]

​@@treyjeffery9605and looting while moving and configs and jitter aiming lmao

[@Spooder050]

Ok take away all the advantages mnk has aswell then cuz mnk will always be better at everything. Aiming and movement would be dominant on mnk

[@user-cb2ub5pl1z]

If you've played enough, then there's no need to use aim assist. I tend to play without aim assist at least twice a week and it's doable.

[@sidoubino6873]

his name still aim assiste 40% aim bot with 60% skills 🙃🙃🙃

[@LAN-w-]

I'm not a great player by any means I'm just throwing it right there now, I can sometimes win 1v3's but thats rare, 1k damage is not hard as long as team mates go together. As a non aim assist controller player for more than a year, I definitely agree that controller players need some form of aim assist. Preferably a slowdown aim assist rather than magnetism, I think apex both has those which is why it's so good at close range. I dabble a little bit on the aim assist on apex at firing range and a little bit on control mode and oh boi they weren't lying when they said it aims for you at close range and as said in the video it hurts you more when you try to compensate at close range better to let the aim assist work(I was playing max sens linear when I tested this). Mid range however is I think is pretty decent, long range feels like u dont have aim assist at all. Also tap strafers is one of the main reason why I think aim assist is needed, I mean these monkey strafers going bananas and you expect us controller players to track that without aim assist? I don't use aim assist but still. But I agree that close range is pretty hmmm for aim assist. Again this is just my perspective, I don't have a vast knowledge or experience regarding aim assist on apex.

[@daemon_fpv7693]

Like if 100% of the mnk players could do all the crazy superglide tap strafe bullshit…. I play mnk, I know how to do those stuff, so I exactly know when I see enemy players using them, and belive me less than 5% of players can actually use those techniques correctly and effectively.

[@LAN-w-]

@@daemon_fpv7693 Well yeah, thats why I suggest nerfing AA.

[@LAN-w-]

you didnt use extra yaw and pitch?

[@itsroguely]

Extra yaw and pitch are only good if u have AA on tbh

[@LAN-w-]

@@itsroguely oh, so turning those off is better for overall performance and consistency?

[@itsroguely]

so basically what they do is they increase the speed of your yaw and pitch a bit, so you can turn left and right faster but once your crosshair is on a target it's mad sticky, that's the best way i can explain it@@LAN-w-

[@LAN-w-]

@@itsroguely Thank you for responding, I'm aware of this, but what what I meant and sorry for not being clear was turning off the extra yaw and pitch might be better for consistency when playing without Aim assist is what I'm assuming since you said that the biggest benefit you would get out of that is when you have aim assist turn on.

[@itsroguely]

@@LAN-w- ohhhh Gotcha, yeah I did turn it off. I experimented with it a lil bit but it wasn’t working for me

[@billybob-fw3vr]

Aim assist is busted it needs a fat nerf

[@FireKnightGaming]

How do you feel your aim is now going back to aim assist?

[@itsroguely]

it feels 10x better now, I still warm up in the range without it to improve a lot more. once i turn it on it feels so smooth

[@FireKnightGaming]

@@itsroguely started today without aimasisst not as bad as I thought. Close up is the struggle.

[@itsroguely]

@@FireKnightGaming yeah close up will be like that for a while

[@zapmando]

Gyro players are waiting, for game devs to stop making the meta AA, Nintendo are the only ones who care about skill

[@7arooofps]

Funny how you looked like an actual MnK player with aim assist turned off. Troller die hards are just too lazy to actually get better at the game. Enoch saying that it takes a lot of skill to be great at troller is exactly the same with MnK. The thing with troller is that the skills floor is much higher vs MnK and the skill ceiling is much more lower vs MnK. Heck this is why most pros are switching to the inferior input.

[@dark_rule03]

15:44

[@liggerstuxin1]

So basically, you’re remaking the video moose made

[@itsroguely]

same concept yeah, but both our formats are different so no carbon copy of his vid, plus he didn't invent the no aim assist challenge, no idea who did

[@ashofwhackbat6426]

This is what 4-3 linear is in ALC if you need it for future reference. Yaw: 240 Pitch: 200 Turning Extra Yaw: 220 Turning Extra Pitch: 0 Turning Ramp-up time: 30% Turning Ramp-up delay: 0% Ads Yaw: 110 Ads Pitch: 75 Ads turning extra yaw: 30 Ads turning extra pitch: 30 Ads Turning Ramp-up time: 100% Ads Turning Ramp-up delay: 25% No Deadzone: 0 Outer threshold: 2% Response Curve: 0

[@itsroguely]

that actually would've helped aa lot when I did this hahaha, I looked up the values on reddit and it felt slow af so i turned it up a bit

[@ashofwhackbat6426]

@@itsroguely I have the whole conversion chart if you need it

[@itsroguely]

@@ashofwhackbat6426 yeah DM me on twitter itsroguely_

[@ashofwhackbat6426]

@@itsroguely I don’t have a Twitter account but I do have Reddit

[@norimg6372]

​@@ashofwhackbat6426bro I need too you have discord ?

[@roastinpeace2320]

as many people have said.. if the game removed aim assist, a vast majority of "pro" players would lose their jobs. EDIT: And it seems you can manage just fine without aim assist. You literally can have same level of aim as on MnK after few days of training So why the hell is the auto aim even a thing? It's just like if they enabled it on MnK.. I had to train for months 8 hours a day in training range to even have a half decent aim on PC and still barely at 0.5 KD (and i'm not some PC newbie.. i've been rocking mouse and keyboard for 20 years 8 hours a day.) Console players just enable their aimbot and can just laser beam everything.

[@Icycrackedpanda]

Turning on aim assist doesn’t not make you a better player and it doesn’t just improve your aim to the point your 1 clipping everything that moves you still have to practice aiming those people that are really good at controller I guarantee have put in the hours to get to where they are which is why they can produce similar results with a bit of practice after turning it off. Yes it takes time to adjust when it’s off your use to the crosshairs slowing down when you’re close to or on target when you take that away it’s almost like increasing your sense and you over shoot your target “ I know this because I’ve done it” so with time you adjust to the non slow down and you get back to or very close to what you were before. Now when a good player goes back and turns it on they go through another adjustment period where now they’re undershooting targets and they feel slow but this is short lived because now that the muscle memory is there for little micro adjustment “which is way harder on control than a mouse “I know this because I play both” that’s when the demons come out because now it’s slow they have the mechanics to adjust with in the range that’s assisted and life becomes way harder for everyone that’s within their crosshairs. Your average player isn’t doing that these are people that get on talk shit and go to sleep they’re not putting in the hours it takes to adjust to that level and unless they got full on aimbot they’re not competing with nobody that’s put those kinda hours in controller or MNK period

[@roastinpeace2320]

@@Icycrackedpanda Agreed that turning on Aim assist isn't everything.. configuring it well is. My friend followed a few guides on how to completely remove recoil on controller and since then he's laser beaming everything. He literally has to move his thumb for not even an inch to completely nullify the recoil..

[@rKonata]

W

[@testtube173]

Such a funny video. Stacking in pub games. The irony that you are both saying aa is not completely necessary and that this challenge of playing in public matches for 1 week without it is the hardest thing you've ever done is icing on the cake. People act like a great player isnt great solely because of aim assist meanwhile not a single solitary pro player would ever dream of competing without it really says all that needs to be said. Its not really worth discussing if its overpowered or not when the sample size for people that don't utilize it in competitive play is 0. Its like asking if using a mouse with your keyboard helps. You could play without it and just use keyboard to aim (literally how fps shooters started) but literally nobody would do that.

[@GMon_21]

I am surprised they did not talk about the high ping console player have to deal with.

[@pr1ncxe]

You don't even have aim assist disabled in this video LMAO.

[@itsroguely]

it was off so i'll take this as a compliment, appreciate u

[@nolanb4165]

I wish I was this skilled I've been consistently masters (Pred seasons 7,8, and 10) and turned aim assist off and im struggling in plat and diamond lobbies now🥲I get what Genburten, Effect, and Zaine where saying now when they said it aim assist was OP. Im about to switch back if I dont get out of diamond this season and hopefully Ill be even more OP once I get my aim assist back and be able to hit pred again next season.

[@Hyqua]

🎯🔫

[@joelrigaux7566]

I've allways liked to deactivate aim assist so mk player could not say that it aims for me, it also feel way more rewarding getting a kill this way and it help a lot for when u get back to using it. Definitely something everyone should try at least a bit !

[@itsroguely]

it does feel way more satisfying when I got kills without it, and yeah they can't say it aims for us. Back when I was on Mnk I never understood the hate towards roller players, so weird to me

[@patricklindberg6851]

Yes, delete aim assist from the game

[@Rvez999]

turn off aim assist =)

[@Icesweats]

idk why ppl call this no aim assist when your just turning off target compensation, the slow down is still their so why is it called no aim assist when its clearly not

[@itsroguely]

there is no slow down at all. I tested it and once you turn target compensation off you get no slowdown, no rotational, nothing

[@DeconstructU2124]

its so pathetic the amount of mnk crybabies in your comments trying to use someone who has thousands hours + combined in apex semi-mastering no aa into taking aa away and not accounting for the majoritiy casual fanbase who use controller half the time the same ppl complaining abt controller get shit on by better mnk players and blame aa regardless, if controller is so good switch to it or get better at the game

[@dark_rule03]

I’m a good controller player I didn’t even know aim assist existed in apex lol and I’m prestige

[@skeley6776]

how do u not notice ur Aim moving on its own xD.

[@vivou5465]

@@skeley6776 That's my story before i switched to mnk back in 2015 i didn't realise how much aim assist helped me, one day I hopped on Battlefield 3 with my controller on my freshly new pc... and i sucked ass. I didn't know why i was aiming so bad to the point i thought my inputs were broken, i realised then that they were no aim assist on the pc version of Battlefield 3 lmaooo

[@54rooroo]

Play on console...you'll feel the recoil like normal players...

[@itsroguely]

i don't think that's how Apex works, Warzone does but not Apex. I know I played on stretched here but honestly I find that it's easier to control recoil and track on native res, like console

[@see2remember]

I suck , i admit , and aim assist makes me a god , i say aim assist should be off at LEAST on ranked

[@urprise]

When you see how good he is without aim assist, this proof for me that controllers don't need aim assist and that this shit give an advantage against pc players.