I read every Conan story by Robert E Howard. Let's talk about them.

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@artistpoet5253
@artistpoet5253 8 ай бұрын
Conan is the best example of how 'thief' need not be it's own RPG class. Honestly, Conan is a great example of skill based characters over class/job bases characters.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
You are 100% correct. I play thieves and dex based fighters as if I'm Conan.
@RoninCatholic
@RoninCatholic 8 ай бұрын
When they first statted up Conan in D&D, he was both a high level Thief and a high level Fighting-Man. The Barbarian class _allegedly_ inspired by him doesn't resemble him in behavior or ability, and only vaguely resembles the movie version in appearance (it's also in my bottom 3-4 for core book base classes for all editions where it exists). Yes, I think skill-based systems are generally better even for high fantasy.
@purplelibraryguy8729
@purplelibraryguy8729 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, when I was much younger I remember putting together Conan as a GURPS (point and skill based system) character and having it work pretty well. I don't think doing Conan in D&D can really reflect him nearly as well. He was worth a LOT of points, because ALL his physical stats were sky-high. One thing people who don't read Conan tend to miss is that although yes, he was really, really strong his actual swordfighting style tended to be very Dex-based and mobile.
@richardadcock5450
@richardadcock5450 8 ай бұрын
Hobo Murderer the best title ever!!
@wishesandfishes
@wishesandfishes 8 ай бұрын
Well the reason conan doesnt fit into a class system is that a class system is based on the idea of each character fulfilling a specialized role in a party. Conan is a lone wolf who is superlatively awesome at everything. And not even just big strong tough guy stuff but he's a fucking genius as well. In Red Nails he finds an old scroll in a cave written in a dead language no scholar has ever been able to translate, and he reads it just by thinking real hard. In the next chapter he swims up a river with a sword clenched between his teeth.
@Anshelm77
@Anshelm77 8 ай бұрын
When it comes to fantasy, one thing makes the Conan stories particularly interesting: there's zero Tolkien influence, as Howard died before the publication of the Hobbit. Of course, this goes for other older stuff as well.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
That is a major reason I love Conan stories. My favorite pre-Tolkien novel is The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson. It was published the same year as The Fellowship of the Ring. The Broken Sword shares of a lot the same influences as Tolkien but it is very adult, very brutal, and very well written. It is like the anti-Lord of the Rings. I love it.
@RoninCatholic
@RoninCatholic 8 ай бұрын
I hear Tolkien admired Conan stories, when he usually had pretty harsh words for almost any other fantasy.
@adamcharlton6056
@adamcharlton6056 8 ай бұрын
that's a really cool observation. I had just been thinking about the world that these stories were written in versus later writers/series.
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 8 ай бұрын
He was more influenced by his friend and pen-pal HP Lovecraft. Howard, I mean.
@RickReasonnz
@RickReasonnz 8 ай бұрын
It's one reason I find it irksome when someone proclaims Tolkien invented the fantasy genre. Tolkienesque work is but one part of fantasy, for the rest, our heroes in pulp lead the way.
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 8 ай бұрын
Conan is a genius bruiser who uses his brain as much as he uses his brawn. And, contrary to popular depictions, he wears clothes and armor.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I like how he wears heavy armor in Hour of the Dragon. He is a tank!
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 8 ай бұрын
And he didn’t leave home to revenge his family, he wanted to have fun. It reduced his character to a trope,” You killed my fatha “ bs.
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 8 ай бұрын
@ULTRAOutdoorsman - He speaks several languages, and in one story used his knowledge of a writing system and a language to translate an ancient scroll. REH created a number of genius bruisers, of which Conan and Kull are two.
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 8 ай бұрын
@@raydrexler5868- There's a need to be epic, or even EPIC, in movies. The hero can't be on the outs with their people (Kull), or in search of adventure (Solomon Kane, Conan), or just doing their job. There has to be an 'interesting' origin story.
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 8 ай бұрын
@@julietfischer5056 Dude was first over the wall at Vanarium, at 15 years old! They let him sit on the war council afterwards. I’m thinking that’s a pretty interesting origin story.
@jaydcs6298
@jaydcs6298 8 ай бұрын
Aside from being the greatest murder hobo of all time, he may have also been the first and only Hyborian age pulp detective.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I totally agree. "Conan detective stories" would have been the greatest run of pulp stories ever!
@westphalianstallion4293
@westphalianstallion4293 7 ай бұрын
@@JosephReadsBooks Now I will watch the anime "Detective Conan" never the same...Conan is a great second name.
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 7 ай бұрын
At least the Watson in one. I can't remember the entire plot, but one of the locals correctly deduced that he couldn't have committed a specific bit of mayhem because no human could have done it. I have to dig out my collections.
@PiemanPerkins
@PiemanPerkins 8 ай бұрын
Pelias the Wizard in The Scalrlet Citadel is the most underrated Wizard in fiction ever. Especially when you realize that he predates Gandalf. While imprisoned, he creates zombies to kill the guards and summons a horrible bat monster at will; I wish he was talked about more.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
He is super cool!
@paulsmart4672
@paulsmart4672 8 ай бұрын
Pelias just keeps going back and forth between doing comically evil magic and telling Conan "You seem cool, we should hang out." and I don't know if its hilarious on purpose or not but its definitely hilarious.
@satori2890
@satori2890 8 ай бұрын
And foreshadowed/ inspired a similar Elric Villian
@johnkeenan1829
@johnkeenan1829 8 ай бұрын
In an issue of the Dark Horse Conan comic they have Pelias, instead of having a horse pulling his cart, he has the evil Citadel wizard in the traces with his severed head hung out in front of him. He keeps moving forward trying to get his head and Pelias drives the cart. Absolutely hilarious.
@paulsmart4672
@paulsmart4672 8 ай бұрын
@@johnkeenan1829 Sounds about right.
@TrippyTheShroom
@TrippyTheShroom 7 ай бұрын
Beyond the Black River is, to me, Howard’s pinnacle for Conan. Conan being witnessed from someone else’s POV is incredibly fun to witness, then seeing Balthus and Conan running through the forest desperately trying to outrun an army of Picts… chefs kiss. It ls the story I’ve reread most from Howard. I also really enjoyed Tower of the Elephant for the same reasons you mentioned, as well as The Slithering Shadow purely because Conan is fed up protecting someone and ends up duking it out with a demon.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
Beyond the Black River is very good. I think about it a lot.
@patricktilton5377
@patricktilton5377 3 ай бұрын
It's in BTBR where we -- through Balthus -- learn that Conan, when he had bee about 14 years old, was one of the howling barbarians of Cimmeria who massacred men, women, and children at Venarium, the Aquilonian attempt to colonize Cimmerian territory to their north. Now, perhaps 20 years later, he's aiding the Aquilonian frontiersmen who are beset by the barbarian Picts -- the Cimmerians having had an ages-long feud with the savage Picts. Conan's character arc goes from being a barbarian who had participated in the merciless slaughter of Aquilonian men, women, and -- yes -- children, to the usurping King of Aquilonia, almost as if he had sought, in the culmination of his career, to make it up to the Aquilonian people, to atone for having been a 'monster' to those luckless pioneers who couldn't have known that their attempt to make homes in Cimmerian territory would result in those often bickering tribes putting aside their differences in order to purge their land of would-be colonizers. If I had to guess, Conan felt ashamed of having MURDERED women and children at Venarium, probably having been fired-up with a war-frenzy stoked by fellow Cimmerian tribesmen, and it's no wonder that he would become a wanderer -- fleeing Cimmeria first to go northward into the 'nordic' lands of Vanaheim and Asgard (see "The Frost Giant's Daughter") before eventually going east and then south, into Zamora, where we see him in "The Tower of the Elephant." He would spend the rest of his life fighting against monsters, often protecting vulnerable women and children . . . the ghosts of Venarium perhaps haunting his dreams. REH described Conan as a man of gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth. I suspect his gigantic melancholies had their beginnings in his sense of guilt over having helped to slaughter women and children at Venarium.
@SG-js2qn
@SG-js2qn 7 ай бұрын
Your murder hobo is my "self-sufficient." Keep in mind that while it is a fantasy setting, Conan's world is really more like a noir ... a hardboiled man in a corrupt world where nearly everybody lies and stabs each other in the back. Conan's not stealing from the weak or the poor. He's not killing people just because he can. You can be alone with him, and he won't just straight murk you and take your stuff.
@nationalsocialism3504
@nationalsocialism3504 7 ай бұрын
Yeah... that's a murderhobo within context. It came about as a slur during 3/3.5 edition of D&D against the older players who all played "murderhobos" since that's was 1st & 2nd edition were... hell, experience earned used to be directly tied into the Gold Piece value of loot you got. The difference between Roll Players & Role Players... like how 4th & 5th edition D&D is played is a foreign concept to me. D&D was for math nerds but now it's for theater geeks... whereas they used to play White Wolf systems for that.
@SG-js2qn
@SG-js2qn 7 ай бұрын
@@nationalsocialism3504 I understand what's meant by "muderhobo." That's what a lot of games push players to be. You get your rewards for killing as many critters as possible, and you scrounge everything you can carry to sell for gold, and there's no consequences. Conan's not that. I get that a lot of people find the description funny, but he's a pulp hero with a sword.
@mistercomment1622
@mistercomment1622 7 ай бұрын
I agree, now Kane would be a complete different ball game
@bmlgordon
@bmlgordon 7 ай бұрын
“stab each other in the back” quite literally!
@Schmidtactular
@Schmidtactular 6 ай бұрын
I love your description of hyboria
@djordjekrsmanovic
@djordjekrsmanovic 8 ай бұрын
You were actually correct with the Lovecraft thing Howard and Lovecraft were good friends irl and would often reference each others works ,most notably the book Unspeakable Cults is in both works, to the point some people claim they could be canon to one another
@Lampoluke
@Lampoluke 7 ай бұрын
I always assumed that the two and Clark Ashton Smith all wrote the same universe.
@PeteOtton
@PeteOtton 7 ай бұрын
@@Lampoluke Lovecraft corresponded with a lot of other authors and allowed them to build off of his 'universe' and would incorporate their ideas back into his own stories.
@petoperceptum
@petoperceptum 7 ай бұрын
​@@Lampoluke what we call the broader Cthulhu Mythos is a set of rather strong cultural ideas that have been floating around fiction since the 19th century, with quite a few writers communicating and building off one another. Try not to think about how much this resembles some of the things in such stories. Carcosa for instance was first mentioned in 1886.
@Lampoluke
@Lampoluke 7 ай бұрын
@@petoperceptum yeah but The Yellow Sign is not part of the mythos, it is utterly different from the worldbuilding, it was written outside the circle, and more importantly the part that was put into the mythos is a bastardization made by Derleth I believe. Edit: sorry I went full nerd. I generally like to think at least REH and HPL and CAS to be the more canon ones, then the latter additions I just go with what I vibe with. Hounds of Tindalos may be my favourite Cosmic Horror tale (with the Yellow Sign), but I don't think it fits in the mythos, despite the fact that everyone else does.
@petoperceptum
@petoperceptum 7 ай бұрын
@@Lampoluke don't apologise for being a nerd, though to say that the ideas of the Mythos are something unique to Lovecraft's writing is to ignore his place in a larger literary concept that did not start with him, even if he most famously formed much of what we associate with it today.
@Arum638
@Arum638 8 ай бұрын
My favorite Conan the Barbarian moment (maybe my favorite moment in any book) is when he faces off against a guy who's famous for strangling people; so he beats him by flexing his neck so hard he can't be strangled.
@purplelibraryguy8729
@purplelibraryguy8729 8 ай бұрын
He also strangles the guy. And before they start, the guy is talking about how unstoppable he is, how he practiced from a child starting from ducks and working his way up to humans, and Conan out-strangles him and goes "Try wringing the neck of a Cimmerian bull!"
@Jourdan0311
@Jourdan0311 8 ай бұрын
Sir would enjoy a movie called "the barbarians" hmmmfhmh!!
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 8 ай бұрын
Baal Pteor
@montgomeryrobb5877
@montgomeryrobb5877 8 ай бұрын
shadows in zamboula
@Strideo1
@Strideo1 8 ай бұрын
I like how Conan is such a gigachad that he basically witnesses Lovecraftian horrors that makes his blood run chill and then he always just shrugs it off instead of going insane like a lesser man might.
@IAmOfAll
@IAmOfAll 8 ай бұрын
Top Conan moment for me has to be killing a monologue-prone dictator with a chair - while the dude was mid-villain speech. That's where the story *starts*, which just tells you everything you need to know. "Our hero killed a monologuing villain with a chair. Now see how he escapes the dungeon he was thrown into as punishment!"
@pendantblade6361
@pendantblade6361 8 ай бұрын
Early on in DnD, there was only the Fighting Man, the Magic User and the Cleric. The Fighting Man is thief and warrior. Conan is definitely that.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
You are 100% correct. Conan the Fighting Man 😎
@RoninCatholic
@RoninCatholic 8 ай бұрын
And before publishing, there was only Fighting Man and Magic User. Cleric was one player's custom class to hard counter another player whose Fighting Man had successfully become a vampire, explicitly inspired by Van Helsing in abilities and some Templar aesthetics were put on over the top to fit the medieval theme.
@deathdeathington
@deathdeathington 7 ай бұрын
One thing I liked about the Schwarzenegger portrayal of Conan was his accent. All throughout Howard's tales of Conan, the hero is in far off lands speaking with people in different languages. He is never heard, not once, speaking in his native tongue. Whatever dialect he spoke he would have been thick accented as he pronounced words that were sometimes new to him.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
That's a good point. I never thought about it like that.
@H457ur
@H457ur 7 ай бұрын
But his eyes were supposed to be blue! Seriously, the eye color and the fact that he was super hairy was mentioned in practically every story. I remember being so upset that they chose Schwarzenegger, because his eyes were brown. I was such a nerd…. They should have picked Roddy Piper. 😂 (Kidding)
@charlesfinnigan3904
@charlesfinnigan3904 7 ай бұрын
Just remember being at the theater and seeing Arnold as Conan and thinking, wow, that is Conan!
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 7 ай бұрын
@@H457ur- I don't remember him being hairy, but he did have long hair. Yeah, Conan has the 'black Celtic' coloring. Still, Schwarzenegger is more ethnically appropriate than Momoa, given that Cimmerians were proto-Celts, and Celtic peoples lived near what is now Austria (if memory serves).
@purplelibraryguy8729
@purplelibraryguy8729 8 ай бұрын
Once upon a time I finished reading one of the books somewhere in the middle of the Wheel of Time series, the one that decided me to give up on it. Needing an antidote, I went and read the Conan novella "The People of the Black Circle". It was lots of fun, and what I noticed was that ten times as much stuff happened in 90 pages of Conan than in 800 pages or whatever of that Wheel of Time book. Modern fantasy writers do a lot of stuff well, but they could use some reminders about pace.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I totally agree. Glen Cook, one of my favorite authors, wrote an 8 book epic fantasy series that is smaller than the the first two books in any modern fantasy series. It was refreshing to read something that short. It didn't feel like it was lacking anything.
@arthurfrayn7619
@arthurfrayn7619 8 ай бұрын
A lot of fiction has this problem IMO. Fahrenheit 451 is my favorite sci-fi book for the same reason.
@damagingthebrand7387
@damagingthebrand7387 8 ай бұрын
I miss Del Rey, he was a hard nosed editor who did not let authors do whatever they want, thus more focused books.
@chuckhouse5179
@chuckhouse5179 7 ай бұрын
I tried to read WoT 3different times in my life. I always got bogged down in book 6. The team was split up (worse than usual), Rand had hit full Emo phase, he was dealing with the mundane world politics, all of it very important but very fucking boring. First time I ever used an audiobook. I'd listen to about 90 minutes a night while I was alone at work and I really got into it. Even the boring stuff wasn't bad because if I zoned out for a minute I still heard the important shit and was able to follow along with it feeling like a slog. Sorry now my comment is becoming Jordanesque. I'll just sign off with AUDIOBOOKS RULE!
@nationalsocialism3504
@nationalsocialism3504 7 ай бұрын
Jordan got very meandering as he got sicker though he got some purpose back in his last book as the end was drawing nearer... Sanderson finished off the series amazingly though, so it's worth it to power through that slog in the middle. (Personally, I'm hoping that Sanderson will finish ASOIAF after GRRM dies... he has the SciFi background to do that post post-apocalyptic world justice which the shows have butchered into being straight Fantasy.)
@nicholasmiller5152
@nicholasmiller5152 8 ай бұрын
"Conan is the greatest murder hobo who has ever lived" is going to live rent free in my head for months.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
Welcome to the club 😂. When I thought of it I knew I needed to let the world know!
@MD-yd8lh
@MD-yd8lh 8 ай бұрын
Second is Guts, i guess
@ktk44man
@ktk44man 8 ай бұрын
The first might be genghis khan depending on how you define hobo
@MD-yd8lh
@MD-yd8lh 8 ай бұрын
@@ktk44man Attila =)
@spillereater
@spillereater 8 ай бұрын
Muderhobo, that's a new one for me. Can't wait to discover more of Conan.
@Ayeskint
@Ayeskint 8 ай бұрын
I discovered Conan at twelve years old when my mate bought a Savage Sword of Conan comic. I'd never heard of him up till then. I loved it! Borrowed the comic so often Dave ended up just giving it to me😊. Then I found out there were actual books about Conan - Fast forward to today, I'm 57 and I still love anything Conan. I've read and re-read most of the stories about him (all that I could find over the years) and I've enjoyed almost all of it, but Robert Howard's originals stand out as the best by far - there's a particular 'feel' to them. That's the only way I can describe it. On the Lovecraft thing: Howard and HPL were correspondents and did include little bits of one another's 'Lore' in their stories. Keep on reading and enjoying, my friends - this stuff is gold!
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I started reading Conan in my late 20s. I was mad at myself for not starting sooner. He is truly special. Thanks for watching!
@Ayeskint
@Ayeskint 8 ай бұрын
@@JosephReadsBooks - a pleasure. Thanx for posting.
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 8 ай бұрын
Single greatest comic book of all time. SSOC was my childhood
@nomadmarauder-dw9re
@nomadmarauder-dw9re 8 ай бұрын
I was ,12 on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. Waiting for my Dad to pick me up from the Saenger theater in Gulfport. I would go to the news stand and browse. There was a paperback featuring a huge dude, leaning on a battle-axe stop a bunch of dead guys...with a nearly naked woman wrapped around his thigh. Next trip, I bought the book and skipped the movie. 58 years ago. Been hooked for life.
@harrybriggs2586
@harrybriggs2586 8 ай бұрын
That's a pretty good list. My personal picks are as follows: 1. "Queen of the Black Coast". (I consider it the quintessential Conan story.) 2. "The Tower of the Elephant". (A proper sword-and-sorcery dungeon crawl that really expands the world.) 3. "The God in the Bowl". (A murder mystery in a museum. Enough said.) 4. "Rogues in the House". (A jail-brake turned political thriller.) 5. "The Phoenix on the Sword". (The OG Conan story.) 6. "Red Nails". (Conan fights a dragon wand gets into a gang-war with his maybe-one-day girlfriend.) 7. "The Frost Giant's Daughter". (Turns out Valkyries are terrible.) 8. "The Pool of the Black One". (Another pirate tale, this one has my favorite opening to a Conan story ever.) I understand I have a pretty substantial list, but what can I say, I'm a sucker for classic, weird sword-and-sorcery and having read "Robert E. Howard's Conan the Cimmerian Barbarian: The Complete Weird Tales Omnibus" by Finn J. D. John AND "Flame and Crimson: A History of Sword-and-Sorcery" by Brian Murphy, I strongly believe his best work was whenever he stuck to the 7 points Murphy outlines in Chapter One "What is Sword-and-Sorcery?" while deviating from the standard formula John points out as the "middle period" of Conan that saw him take off in Weird Tales. Most content creators can attest to this, stagnation kills.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I'm going to look into that Bryan Murphy book. That sounds interesting.
@harrybriggs2586
@harrybriggs2586 8 ай бұрын
@@JosephReadsBooks It's really good. If you're looking for an academic book on Sword-and-Sorcery it does exactly that, citations, quotes, and all. (or et. all). Also if you're looking for more S&S authors or stories to read, it's a solid contender for a genre canon with its "A Probable Timeline Of Sword-And-Sorcery" list. That can keep you going for quite a while.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
@@harrybriggs2586 I appreciate the recommendation!
@deathbare5306
@deathbare5306 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation of Brian Murphys book, I picked it up!
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 8 ай бұрын
Yer not a sucker, you are a connoisseur
@connorperrett9559
@connorperrett9559 8 ай бұрын
My favorite part of the Howard Conan stories was that they were set at all stages of his life, and he has a noticeably different attitude in stories when he was young versus stories when he was more mature.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I agree. That is why I like reading them I'm publication order. You get to jump around his life and see him at different stages.
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 7 ай бұрын
He learned from experience. Which likely made him the best king Aquilonia had in generations.
@mikedangerdoes
@mikedangerdoes 8 ай бұрын
I certainly appreciated the nuance and skill of Conan from the stories. But some of my favourite parts was when he just went full Man-Mode on a thing and outmuscled something. I forget which story it is but he runs into the royal strangler who tries to choke him to death. And instead of doing anything clever, Conan just out-strangles him back, basically racing this guy to see who runs out of breath first. It's awesome. Also Conan is a low-key sociopath and I'm all about it.
@HammerdownProtocol
@HammerdownProtocol 8 ай бұрын
My wife asked me how I managed to claw my way out of a serious and prolonged period of mental distress. Conan audio books helped, a lot. He remains to this day, a hugely inspiring character, to me, and Robert E. Howard was an unalloyed genius.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad his Conan stories helped you out that much! I agree that he was a genius.
@AnonymousAnonposter
@AnonymousAnonposter 8 ай бұрын
The People of the Black Circle is one of my favorite stories by Robert E. Howard. The one I recommend to any pretentious person who says "Conan is bad and aged terribly" and all that usual stuff. Rogues in the House and The Devil in Iron are two underrated ones that I personally enjoy.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
This is the great thing about Robert E Howard and Conan. I can't argue with those choices because they are fantastic. Almost all of the stories are prime candidates for "best story".
@OnlyTheBestFantasyNovels
@OnlyTheBestFantasyNovels 8 ай бұрын
Wow, you exude so much joy talking about these stories you make me want to read that collection all over again! Conan the Murderhobo is the greatest description of him I've ever come across, ha. The thing I was most shocked about with the entire collection is just how well it stands up to the test of time - it's still extremely entertaining! And after reading it, it made me wonder if the people writing the movies based on him have ever even read a one of the stories. He was much more than the raging barbarian I was expecting based on those.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I agree with you 100%. When it comes to Hollywood, based on the current evidence, I don't think they know how to read 😂.
@benjaminpowers609
@benjaminpowers609 8 ай бұрын
I spent the winter months listening to the anthology while playing Conan Exiles. 10/10 experience, will probably do it again.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
Now that is what I call total immersion!
@arcadiaberger9204
@arcadiaberger9204 8 ай бұрын
The "Three Musketeers of *_Weird Tales"_* (Robert E. Howard, H. P. Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith) were none of them very happy men, but Howard seems to have been the most tortured soul of all. When he killed himself after his mother's death, it appears to have been not so much that he couldn't bear to go on without her but that with her safely dead he was without obligations and was finally free to make an exit.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I knew about that and it is heartbreaking.
@rodgerbane3825
@rodgerbane3825 8 ай бұрын
"His mighty sinews flexed and his sword swung in a glittering arc, a crimson line appeared on the throat of his foe". A Jack Reacher for yesteryear.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I'm reading Reacher novels right now and you are spot on!
@mzklucas
@mzklucas 7 ай бұрын
My favorite Conan story was "Beyond the Black River", I was impressed by Howards writing because he focused on Balthus story.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
That one is great.
@kurtwpg
@kurtwpg 7 ай бұрын
I think that and Treasure Of Tranicos are the glaring omissions. Surveying the site of Balthus/Slasher's last stand is so wrenching.
@The-Black-Death
@The-Black-Death 7 ай бұрын
I originally got into the Conan series thanks to the game Age of Conan, it's left probably the BIGGEST impression on me growing up, way more than other mmos like WoW or GW1 or SWG, and Age of Conan is probably one of the most dead/lackluster MMO's out there really. But originally when I first got into it as a kid, when I saw stuff like 300 and Black & White 2 and stuff like that and all of it got me further indulged in history as a whole, even more so with the works of Conan most of all. Overall it's definitely became my 2nd favorite series and eventually I do want to get into discussing the Lore of the series and do it some real justice, because a lot of material out there about is seems to be very inaccurate or just lacking in total, simply due to how underrated the series truly is.
@saintdonoghue
@saintdonoghue 8 ай бұрын
Conan as Murder-Hobo! Well now I’ve heard everything!
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
Vagrancy just makes the pulp hero business easier 😂
@owen-trombone
@owen-trombone Ай бұрын
Just came here from your Conan review video. Thanks for sharing your favorite stories, you make them sound amazing. I just ordered the complete Conan collection, now I know where to start. 📚
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks Ай бұрын
I'm glad I could help you on your Conan journey!
@haysmcgee801
@haysmcgee801 8 ай бұрын
I’m a huge Howard fan, and fan of Conan in particular! Since you asked for some favorites other than than what you listed (Red Nails and the Phoenix on the Sword being particular favorites) I am definitely going to say the one that gets the least amount of attention but is definitely my other favorite: Wolves at the Border. Conan isn’t the main character in this one but it is a great bit of storytelling and trying to show a different MC to the titular Murderhobo. The story follows a young man named Gault who is a Ranger/Scout and all around badass in his own right as he tries to protect his homeland from an invasion of a savage, bloodthirsty, and brutal enemy. Knowing that his people are facing a genocide if he fails, Gault takes guerilla warfare to an extreme realizing that in order to win he has to be smarter, better and more ruthless than those who threaten his home. It really is a terrific story and a great dessert type of story if your meal has been of the well muscled Cimmerian variety! Side note: If I were using D&D 5e to make Conan, he’d have the Outlander Background, definitely a very lucky rolled ability score character, with maybe a single level of Barbarian (mainly for the no armor and the rage helps in those clutch moments in the stories just flavored more as determination than anger) with the rest being fighter and maybe a dip into rogue (for expertise, cunning action, and sneak attack helps in those moments when he lays out an ambush, or the many times he catches opponents off guard.) Additional side note: Everyone likes to crap on the Jason Mamoa flick, but by comparison to the Books, both Mamoa’s and Schwarzenegger’s fall short. I think Mamoa’s build/physique and just the way he moved was closer in appearance to what is described in the books. However everything else in both renditions was wrong, at least in the Mamoa version they got the backstory more correct though again both were off. Don’t even get me started on the TV show. However I would really love to see the character brought to full life on the big screen with consultation done on the script by a Howard Scholar and casting done with care to get the characters right. Even going as far as to adapt any of the stories and frame it how Howard said he imagined the stories coming to him to write, an aged King Conan sitting by a fire with a drink in hand sharing his adventures.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
Wolves at the Border is fantastic. It is definitely in my "top 10" if I made one. It was super refreshing to see a different POV. Maybe someday when Conan is in the public domain some big studio will make a worthy movie/TV show.
@markmunroe-hz8rf
@markmunroe-hz8rf 4 ай бұрын
​@@JosephReadsBookswhat I like about the Conan stories is that it is set in a far mythical past, a lost antiquity, not the generic medieval European settings. Plus, Howard's prose is beyond the pulp magazine standard at the time.
@kiltedlover
@kiltedlover 7 ай бұрын
I owned all the original Conan books when I was a teenager, with all the original Frazetta artwork. Classic!
@LonelyMountainBand
@LonelyMountainBand 6 ай бұрын
“Someday, when all your civilization and science are likewise swept away, your kind will pray for a man with a sword.” - R.E.H.
@trlns59
@trlns59 8 ай бұрын
I’ve got all 17 of the Conan books published by Sphere Books from the 70’s (with edits by Lin Carter & L Sprague de Camp) and you’ve inspired me to do a re-read. Well done sir.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad I could be a bad influence 😎
@patricktilton5377
@patricktilton5377 3 ай бұрын
Get the Del Rey/Ballantine series -- 3 volumes of Conan, plus volumes featuring Kull, Bran Mak Morn, Solomon Kane, El Borak, etc. The versions edited by De Camp altered REH's texts to a certain degree, and a purist will prefer the REH originals.
@noahbryan9779
@noahbryan9779 8 ай бұрын
Looking through the comments, I haven't seen anyone mention my favourite REH Conan story, so I just gotta give a shoutout Black Colossus. I really like the setting for it, and that first chapter is some awesome fantasy-horror.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
That is a great one!
@chromenewt
@chromenewt 7 ай бұрын
Fun fact; Robert E Howard and HP Lovecraft were buddies and shared a pantheon of elder gods in their stories. Also, while their attitudes towards racism were pretty bad, it was Howard who ended up pulling up Lovecraft over sexism which then caused Howard to review his own views on general. The Conan stories were not written in chronological order but you can tell the stories written after his epiphany because the bad guys weren't always dark skinned and he wrote more women characters as being able to be strong and independent on their own rights without needing men.
@pl566
@pl566 8 ай бұрын
Wow! I'm in good company with your other commenters today! That's great! It's been a long time since I've read any Conan, but I'm planning on waiting so that I can participate in Cimmerian September also.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I am so excited for September. It is going to be a fun month of reading.
@buzzawuzza3743
@buzzawuzza3743 8 ай бұрын
Have long loved the first ten years of Conan comics books, 1970-80. There are other periods of strong enjoyable Conan comics but for me there are gaps as well. Have been thinking of reading the original pulp mag stories just to see how they are. You've inspired me to seek reprints out. To be honest, years ago I read a genuine original old pulp magazine detective story and it dragged like a chain around your neck. Put me off of pulps for a long time, there's too many cool comic books and vintage comic strips out there for me to seek out new distractions! But REH has always been a hero and I will dig in. The blinded elephant headed god in the tower is a favorite from the first comics run so that can be a starting point. Thanks for your excellent video.
@sfwordsofwonder
@sfwordsofwonder 8 ай бұрын
Reading all the Howard Conan books is on my bucket list. Great to see you had so much fun with the series. Cheers.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
My next Howard project is chipping away at some of his Boxing stories. I love boxing but I feel bad watching it now that I know how bad it is on the fighter's brains. But with boxing stories I get to enjoy Howard's literary skills and enjoy some boxing as well.
@biffstrong1079
@biffstrong1079 8 ай бұрын
I always thought Elric became the reluctant murder hobo after he lead the raid on Melnibone and everyone ends up dead. He destroys his home. The sword ends up killing people at the end of every story.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I need to read more Elric before I pit him against Conan. I have been reading the newer complete collections of Elric(I think it is in chronological order) and I'm up to the Fortress of the Pearl.
@biffstrong1079
@biffstrong1079 8 ай бұрын
@@JosephReadsBooks I started , I think, reading Brak the Barbarian (John Jakes), and he mostly reluctantly ended up each story taking down some people or monsters who came after him. Very Kwai Chang Cain fron the TV show Kung Fu. Not searching for trouble but always finding it in every story and violently dealing with it. I've read some Conan but mostly homages by other authors. I like Elric though it does get very gloomy and he is much more basically evil than most heroes I've liked.
@SirMacAnchees
@SirMacAnchees 8 ай бұрын
​@@JosephReadsBooks Elric is a different beast in my opinion. The stories delve into wildly different themes from one to the next and I believe that Elric was even more of a self insert character for M.Moorcock than Conan was for Howard. All in all, Howard's writing shows way more consistency in terms of overall quality. That's not to deter you from keeping to read Elric though! The imagination and - simply put - outlandishness of his stories are something else and definitely worthwhile, albeit a bit eye-rolly at times. By the way, great video! I'm looking forward to watching more of yours in the future!
@weylins
@weylins 8 ай бұрын
And Elric inspired what is probably the best Hawkwind album... Chronicle Live
@SirMacAnchees
@SirMacAnchees 8 ай бұрын
@@weylins Hell yeah, brother! That live performance is from another dimension! Love that video to Needlegun
@RobKristjansson
@RobKristjansson 8 ай бұрын
Best thumbnail text EVER!
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Iceman-gm1fu
@Iceman-gm1fu 7 ай бұрын
What I love about the Conan world is the low fantasy. Magic is "magic" in that world. In countless fantasy stories, magic is so common that it isn't really special anymore. Not in Conan
@trollsmyth
@trollsmyth 8 ай бұрын
I think it's "A Witch Shall be Born" in which Conan gets crucified and bites out the throat of a vulture that tries to eat him. Excellent story!
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I need to read that one again.
@michaelk.vaughan8617
@michaelk.vaughan8617 8 ай бұрын
Great video about the greatest Murder-Hobo ever. So glad you will be with us for Cimmerian September!
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I already have all my pastiches ready to go 💪.
@adamcharlton6056
@adamcharlton6056 8 ай бұрын
Have read the collected short stories multiples times over multiple decades. For me, no-one else writes combat scenes as well as Robert E Howard. Reading them is a visceral experience. You can visualise the fight happening before your eyes, sinew by sinew. Maybe I'm just an old fanboy. I appreciate there are many great fight scene writers in the fantasy genre, andf that you will all have your favourites, and different opinions to this one, so no offence intended.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
He really was a master of the fight scene. They are all so good.
@ciaranmeeks9431
@ciaranmeeks9431 6 ай бұрын
Dude! Fantastic review. I've been reading Howard and various Conan pastiche since about the age of 9. I'm 50 this week. Overall I agree wholeheartedly with your list, although some other personal Conan faves would include The Frost Giant's Daughter, Queen Of the Black Coast, A Witch Shall Be Born, and Beyond the Black River. I would also highly recommend trying some of Howard's other works - namely his Solomon Kane, Kull, and Bran Mak Morn stories. For Conan pastiche - which are patchy and varied in quality - the L. Sprague we Camp stories aren't bad, but personally I've always really enjoyed the Tor Books Conan novels by John Maddox Roberts (Conan the Valorous, and Conan the Champion being particular standouts). Robert Jordan's Conan novels in this series were also quite good. Currently reading the very recently published Conan: Blood Of the Serpent by S. M. Stirling and very much enjoying it. Hope you continue to enjoy your own exploration of this criminally unknown, misunderstood, and underrated iconic American literary character!
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! Also, thanks for the recommendations on pastiches. I'm going to be hitting up a few book stores next week and I will keep an eye out for them.
@weylins
@weylins 8 ай бұрын
I wish Howard's Dark Agnes de Chastillon got more recognition. And wish he had done more stories with her.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I plan on reading those stories eventually. I think they are in the historicals collection.
@WalterWild-uu1td
@WalterWild-uu1td 4 ай бұрын
I loved Red Nails...possibly my favorite story. Just the idea of a unique civilization existing inside a huge castle/city at war for hundreds of years. is cool.
@CaptainPetrov
@CaptainPetrov 6 ай бұрын
I missed you saying the title for Red Nails but remembered as soon as you had explained the plot!
@TomVCunningham
@TomVCunningham 7 ай бұрын
I would recommend to anyone reading this to go ahead and read the "Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser" stories by Fritz Leiber and the "Elric" series by Michael Moorcock. Together with Robert E Howard's original Conan stories, they form the three pillars of Sword & Sorcery.
@commandosolo1266
@commandosolo1266 7 ай бұрын
My longtime favorite is "Queen of the Black Coast," both in prose and the comic by John Buscema. I do not understand why, after multiple Conan films, the romance between Conan and Belet has never appeared on screen.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
Based on the comments to this video Queen of the Black Coast is an all time favorite. I think I will check out the comic next time I want to read it.
@jonnyyen7169
@jonnyyen7169 7 ай бұрын
You nailed it, man! Those are basically my favorite stories as well. Howard was brilliant.
@vryc
@vryc 8 ай бұрын
I was so lucky that my dad introduced me to his collection of Howard's books. He's such an... unexpectedly good writer. His ability to describe a scene with highly visual language is perfect for the sort of pulp nature of the settings he explores. When my son was 12 I gave him my father's collection that was passed onto me. He drank them up and I'm convinced he's now a better person (he's 19) for reading them.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
This is the way! 😎
@Schmidtactular
@Schmidtactular 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate how passionate you are in this video. Robert E. Howard and Conan don't get enough credit in the fantasy genre.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I totally agree.
@ZeusAmun-pt9dc
@ZeusAmun-pt9dc 8 ай бұрын
Today I learned about what a murder hobo is and I'm thankful for it
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
My work is done 😂
@epimetrius7348
@epimetrius7348 8 ай бұрын
I have read and re-read Conan so many times, but I always love re-reading Phoenix on the Sword, Tower of the Elephant, and Queen of the Black Coast. Beyond the Black River is also growing quite strongly on me. If you enjoyed Conan, do yourself a massive favor and read Kull and Bran Mak Morn.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I have the illustrated collections for both. I want to read at least one of them later this year.
@totalweirdo3378
@totalweirdo3378 7 ай бұрын
Man! this video just got me so hyped to read more Conan. I started reading Conan stories about 20 years ago and still have not finished every Robert E Howard story. I've been slowly savoring them, but i think after this i'm just gonna go hard to get them all.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad I could be a bad influence 😂.
@bhorrthunderhoof4925
@bhorrthunderhoof4925 7 ай бұрын
Happy you discovered Robert E. Howard. If you haven't discovered it yet I highly recommend the Kull Tales and Solomne Kane stories too. Back to Conan himself though next to "The Tower of the Elephant" I love "Beyond the Black River", "The God in the Bowl" and "The Pool of the Black One". But heck, all Conan stories are worth to read them. I think I have reread them (with the comic adaptions) more than 20 times by now and still discover new stuff.
@ciceriuspanderius
@ciceriuspanderius 8 ай бұрын
Good video man. I have loved Conan and REH stories for years. Yes, Conan is such a more well rounded character than depicted in say the movies by one A Schwarzenegger. I love some of the other stories by Howard as well. I have several books featuring some of his other heroes(?). 😄 The Sowers of the Thunder features four characters in stories set in various historical periods. The Crusades, Tamerlane and my favorite story set the Siege of Vienna 1529. Kull, Bran Mak Morn and Cormac Mac Art are just the business as well.
@JoeSyxpack
@JoeSyxpack 8 ай бұрын
As I recall, in "The God in the Bowl" Conan gets mixed up in it because he was attempting to steal something, so of course when someone turns up dead he's the prime suspect. He's not so much "hanging around" as he is under arrest. Of course, I read that 30+ years ago so don't quote me on that. It is an interesting one since it's a locked room mystery in a fantasy setting.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I was probably misremembering but I feel like he could have escaped at any time but he got sucked into the mystery.
@JoeSyxpack
@JoeSyxpack 8 ай бұрын
@@JosephReadsBooks Oh, absolutely he could have escaped and he was only theoretically arrested since nobody was brave enough to make it official. The mystery might have sucked him in, but I think a lot of it had to do with his pride. He wasn't going to take credit for a death he didn't cause.
@BrandonPilcher
@BrandonPilcher 8 ай бұрын
I discovered Conan in my teens and Howard has ranked high on my most influential writers list ever since! “Queen of the Black Coast” and “Tower of the Elephant” are probably my favorite Conan stories.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I didn't find Conan until my early 30s. Better late than never! Great picks for your favorites!
@steveng2475
@steveng2475 8 ай бұрын
I have read every Conan story by Howard (and every Kull and Solomon Kane story) and you've definitely made some fine picks. I have also read the stories by Carter and deCamp, most by Wagner, a few by Offutt... and still there's too many I have not found to read. I like the simplicity of the stories, and the fact they are just good escapist entertainment. More stories should be like this.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I totally agree about enjoying some escapism. I know there is more to his work than just the fun story but I really enjoy the fun story and I love that I can always dig deeper if I want to search for themes and what inspired Howard. I plan on reading pastiches from Robert Jordan, Karl Edward Wagner, Poul Anderson, and Andrew Offutt this September.
@patricktilton5377
@patricktilton5377 3 ай бұрын
The opening scene of "Shadows in the Moonlight" can't be beaten: a woman who had escaped from her abusive owner/husband is caught by him at the shore of the Vilayet Sea, and he's about to put her through the worst of rapes when, out from the reeds, Conan emerges with a grimace of vengeful fury. This man had perpetrated the slaughter of all the Kozaki fighters whom Conan had been with, he having barely escaped, hiding in the fens and eating rats to survive. A brief sword fight transpires, and Conan hacks through the man's shoulder; the man asks for 'quarter' -- i.e. mercy -- and Conan HACKS HIM TO PIECES instead. When the murder-frenzy finally is spent, Conan doesn't even realize that it was all witnessed by the girl he'd unwittingly saved by his fortuitous intervention. The Marvel SAVAGE SWORD OF CONAN illustrated adaptation really captures the savagery of that scene, with art by John Buscema and Alfredo Alcala. Very few Marvel 'hero' characters could get away with hacking some bastard to bits in a frenzy of revenge -- maybe the Punisher, but that's about it!
@markhill3858
@markhill3858 8 ай бұрын
Red Nails might be my fave. Tough ask :)
@Dexroid
@Dexroid 8 ай бұрын
It's not his best, but I'm partial to the devil in iron. Robert has a grounded way of forcing the reader to see things from his characters perspectives, and i think it was showcased here well. It has a sPoOkY beginning with the tribal coastal guy getting offed by a very dark mirror evil merciless version of Conan when the poor wretch removes a cool looking dagger laying on the big guy. Then, what the characters assume is some sort of necromancer rebuilds an ancient ruined city in, like, a night. Complete with half conscious, long dead people. There's even a drone at one point, which is wildly ahead of its time, considering it was written in the thirties. Yadda yadda yadda, plot with damsel in distress and b plot bad guys, and the (essentially) space robot is cut down by conan welding the special dagger, the only thing capable of piecing his flesh. The blade almost reminded me of a remote control, which is big time appropriate to combat a mechanical being. I think most contemporary critics panned it somewhat as Robert E Howard churning something out to make ends meet, but i still appreciated it. Really sucks that the big man couldn't escape his own demons. Would have loved to see what characters he would have created and stories that would be woven in the future. RIP Howard, and thanks for the post.
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu 8 ай бұрын
totally agree -- and i have had your enthusiasm for these stories my whole life. too bad there aren't more of them (although even before his sadly youthful death howard got tired of conan and dropped it to move on). i also like the kull, bran mac morn and solomon kane stories too. howard knew what he was doing and had great, and as you said, almost timeless style.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I'm excited to read the Kull stories in the future.
@RobBurke-yu2fn
@RobBurke-yu2fn 7 ай бұрын
I have read a good % of the Conan novels out to read and one of my favorites is Conan the Hero, I hope I remembered the title as it has been around 17years since i have read but it still stands out in my memories as one of the top epic stories lol. The best revenge payback as he was betrayed by an under officer and tracked the troop down and eliminated them all a couple at a time until it was just his enemy left. I'm trying to not give too much details so I don't spoil the story lol Conan is still my favorite murder hobo 200 books later... Richard Blade and Dimension X is my 2nd, check it out if you never have read. 18 yrs or older lol
@marjoriedonnett5467
@marjoriedonnett5467 8 ай бұрын
I read all the Conan stories last September during "Cimmerian September" hosted by Booktubers. I had never read them before, but I did enjoy them. I used to think Conan was just a movie and comic book character my son liked as a kid, but little did I know! Fun stories by Robert E. Howard.
@Cobalt-60
@Cobalt-60 7 ай бұрын
It is why in the earlier translation of him into Original D&D (Supplement IV - Gods, Demi-gods & Heroes), he is listed as a Neutral alignment Fighter/Thief dual-class. A COMPLETE murder hobo! I did what you did and read through all the stories in publication order a few years ago. A great time!
@Cobalt-60
@Cobalt-60 7 ай бұрын
And I like your comment about how Howard is the father of Sword & Sorcery (S&S) [as opposed to high fantasy], even if the phrase S&S was not actually coined by Fritz Lieber until 1961, when Leiber used the term to describe the work of Howard (and his own Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser stories...).
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
Leiber is another legend I should make a video about. He needs more people reading his works.
@rathgarredbeard4808
@rathgarredbeard4808 4 ай бұрын
I'm a huge Robert E. Howard fan/Conan the Barbarian fan. "Conan The Flame Knife" was another good Conan story and the poem, "A Song of the Naked Lands" is epic.
@williamashbless7904
@williamashbless7904 8 ай бұрын
Wow! Brings me back to being twelve years old. I read them all and even the non-Howard stories. ‘Beyond Black River’ is probably my favorite. True genius often comes at a price. R.E. Howard certainly paid that price.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
Yes it does 😢
@_DarkEmperor
@_DarkEmperor 8 ай бұрын
Conan: The Original Murder Hobo - a good title for a documentary about Conan.
@SquareSlyce
@SquareSlyce 6 ай бұрын
"Conan the hobo-king wrecks a bunch of nerds" has got to be the greatest summary ever.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! That statement was my inspiration for making the video 😂
@Edezart
@Edezart 8 ай бұрын
As an "old", the term "murderhobo" was oblivious to me, but is now the funniest fkn thing I've ever heard. Thanks for a wonderful and well spoken review, you've convinced me to start reading again. Cheers!
@MysteryandMayhem-gr7nn
@MysteryandMayhem-gr7nn Ай бұрын
Great video! I don't know how I missed this. The term murder hobo kind of jumps out at you. 😆
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks Ай бұрын
Thanks! When I made the connection between Conan and Murderhobo I knew I was onto something 😅.
@purplelibraryguy8729
@purplelibraryguy8729 8 ай бұрын
Something I found interesting about "The Hour of the Dragon" is that it suggests to me that Howard was anti-Nazi back in 1936. A key plot element is that Conan had decided to let the religion of Asura, which has strong Jewish overtones, have freedom of religion, and they then help him defeat the evil wizard Xaltotun and regain his throne. I don't think that's accidental, I think he was saying something there.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
You might be right. It would be interesting to see someone do a deep dive on the themes in his stories. (I'm not smart enough 😂)
@owenreynolds8718
@owenreynolds8718 8 ай бұрын
I figured the underground Ashura(?) stuff was about three things: 1) Conan didn't care about practicing religion. There's no way he'd set up a temple to Crom in Aquilonia (which Crom would hate, anyway). He thinks Mitha seems nice, wanting to actually help people, but he's seen lots of religions and any of the ones not practicing human sacrifice (possibly via snake) are just as good, 2) he's a very tolerant guy, being considered an uncivilized barbarian himself, and having met lots of different people and cultures and really enjoying it, 3) it worked really well in the story. For one thing it raised the stakes nicely -- it showed he was a good king, liked by the little people who would suffer under the usurper if he simply fled. For another, it was a nice way to get some exposition -- this well-informed group tells him a sexy woman who spoke up for him is in trouble. Gotta rescue her. It's like plots today where the good guys are rescued by members of the resistance, who turn out to need their urgent help. (I reread my Ace Conan books during the pandemic)
@purplelibraryguy8729
@purplelibraryguy8729 8 ай бұрын
@@owenreynolds8718 All that is true enough. But we've got a religion which is an old minority religion that tends to keep to itself, whose priests are known for being scholarly men, ABOUT WHOM THERE ARE BLOOD LIBELS, and he sets them up to be assistant good guys. I mean, no I can't prove it, he certainly doesn't CALL them Jewish, but I can't help feeling there's a resonance there that's intentional.
@Beatnik59
@Beatnik59 8 ай бұрын
I think that distinction of "the greatest murder hobo" goes to Oedipus. Sophocles invented the murder hobo in the 4th century BC.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
He is definitely the prototype for the murderhobo. I love that play.
@Painocus
@Painocus 7 ай бұрын
I once read a quote from Howard (that I for the life of me can't find again) where he said he was conflicted about writing female characters. Why? Because the editors only wanted damsels to be saved while if he was going to have a woman as a character in one his adventure stories he wanted her to actually get to be in a character in an adventure story and get to throw as many punches as the men. It's kinda sad reading stories of his like Sword Woman, that he clearly put a lot of love and care into, knowing it was basically impossible for him to get them published in his lifetime, relegating them to only be shared with friends like Catherine L Moore.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
It is sad. I know in letters to people like Lovecraft he was adamant that women were the equals of men and that they should be heroes in stories as well. He was ahead of his times in a few ways and a product of his times on others. The saddest thing is thinking about what could have been with him. (I have his Sword Woman collection and I hope to read them after I finish reading Waterfront Fists which is a collection of his boxing stories.)
@AGS363
@AGS363 8 ай бұрын
Hey, it almost the same as my list: 1. The Scarlet Citadel (I love the sorcery aspect) 2. The Tower of the Elephant (Duh, ....) 3. Red Nails (An adventure in a lost city, very well written) 4. The God in the Bowl (A murder mystery) 5. Beyond the Black River (Most emotional)
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
If I had made a top 10 the ones you include would have been in there. Honestly very few of the stories are stinkers. Which is good. I can always come back to any story and see how I feel about it as time goes on.
@danielchapman6032
@danielchapman6032 8 ай бұрын
I'm old and read Conan years ago, now I want to get the entire Robert E Howards weird works. I think there might be 8 paperbacks for me. I own the 1st and the 3rd.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I really like the Del Rey Illustrated Robert E Howard collection. You can still find copies new online and they are wonderful. There are three Conan books. A Kull collection, Solomon Kane, Bran Mak Morn, etc... I definitely see more Robert E Howard in my near future. I want to read his boxing stories.
@TreeFrog851
@TreeFrog851 8 ай бұрын
The Elephant Tower is also the original issue #1 of the Marvel comics run in the 80s. :)
@patricktilton5377
@patricktilton5377 3 ай бұрын
It was actually issue #4, but it won the award for best comic book of that year.
@captainnolan5062
@captainnolan5062 6 ай бұрын
Nice that you young kids are finally discovering Conan!
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 6 ай бұрын
Conan is the best! I'm sad that it took me as long as it did to finally read the stories but I now get to enjoy them for the rest of my life!
@captainnolan5062
@captainnolan5062 6 ай бұрын
@@JosephReadsBooks You got it!
@Toshiro_Mifune
@Toshiro_Mifune 8 ай бұрын
the god in the bowl is my favorite, barbarian noir is something i didn't know i needed so much in my life.
@thekeywitness
@thekeywitness 8 ай бұрын
I first got into Conan when I was about 10 and consumed every REH book I could get my hands on thereafter. I’m in my 50s now and still a fan of REH’s writing and return to his work whenever I need a good old fashioned, rip roaring yarn.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
That is my plan for the rest of my life. If I need a fun adventure I can just reach for a Conan story.
@macsnafu
@macsnafu 8 ай бұрын
I loved reading Conan when I was younger, and still occasionally re-read the stories. As the examples you selected show, the Conan stories didn't follow a standard template or anything. Each story is unique in its setting and plot. I also like that magic is scarce in the stories, so that when it does show up, it's really something special and not commonplace. Howard even wrote one story without any magic at all as a challenge. It's just a frontier adventure story.
@robertcrompton2733
@robertcrompton2733 8 ай бұрын
Robert E. Howard has given me so much pleasure with his Conan stories
@DamnableReverend
@DamnableReverend 8 ай бұрын
I definitely love most of the stories you mentioned here. I prefer "Phoenix" as a Kull story, myself, "By this Axe I Rule". Two favourite Conans that were not mentioned in the video are "Beyond the Black River" and "Rogues in the House". The former I enjoy because Conan is not really the point of view character, and it gives an interesting new perspective on what Conan blasting into someone else's world would be like, not to mention that while we know Conan has to make it out alive, the same can't necessarily be said for a POV character who is not Conan. 'Rogues" just has an incredibly fun atmosphere to it, and love the Murders in the Rue Morgue tribute, as well as the opening with Conan breaking out of jail and getting some hilarious revenge on the person who turned him in.
@mr.pavone9719
@mr.pavone9719 7 ай бұрын
If you ever want to read some of the BEST melee combat stories ever put to paper, read Robert E. Howard's Conan stories. In a single paragraph, Conan will smash a guy's teeth out, split another guy's skull, squeeze a man until his ribs splinter and then get really violent. If you're an aspiring writer, R.E. Howard is a master of written action and his work is totally worth studying.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
I got into reading Conan for the reason you mentioned. I want to write fast paced action fantasy and I knew Howard was one of the best.
@therussiancomicbookgeek
@therussiancomicbookgeek 8 ай бұрын
Conan is awesome I actually adapted 2 Conan stories into audiobooks with sound design
@colderman
@colderman 7 ай бұрын
This is one of mine too. Read a few out of order, but i want the full story. Gonna have to audiobook it, though.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
The audiobooks are really good!
@Oldkingcole1125
@Oldkingcole1125 8 ай бұрын
My favorite is the Teeth of Gwalur. There’s multiple factions, there’s twists and turns, and it’s got a surprise ending.
@SyvSekstini
@SyvSekstini 8 ай бұрын
The highest rated Conan pastiche authors off the top of my head: Robert Jordan John Maddox Roberts Karl Edward Wagner
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
I planned on reading Wagner and Jordan this September. I will keep an eye out for something by Roberts. Thanks!
@clarksavage2683
@clarksavage2683 8 ай бұрын
Never read any John Maddox Robert’s, but loved Wagners books.
@rbaldino
@rbaldino 8 ай бұрын
I love these old Conan stories. For anyone interested, there's actually a pretty good movie about Robert E. Howard called "The Whole Wide World," from 1996.
@cjptn9617
@cjptn9617 7 ай бұрын
Amazing title - Conan the Murder Hobo. Moniker aside, Robert E. Howard's writing style is perhaps par-none. Using this unique brevity and flow that just kept the pace going. Not many authors manage that. Even HPL can be very slow at times, Howard just nails it everytime. Shout out to Black Agnes written in first person. Of course other characters with stories, (Bran Mak Morn, Soloman Kane, Turlogh Dubh O'Brian, (never read any James Allison), El Borak. One question I always wanted to ask a Howard expert - "How did Robert E. Howard get a hold of all these ancient civilizations, religious concepts, and even military tactics to flush out his novels. No internet in the 1920s.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you about Howard's writing. When it comes to his knowledge of history and combat I think we can give a lot of credit to his local library and his voracious reading as a kid. I have a few books about his life and I plan on digging into those at some point. I'm really looking forward to it.
@cjptn9617
@cjptn9617 7 ай бұрын
@@JosephReadsBooks Shout out to walking into a library. I really marvel at REH's gift he put to the test (aka the Riddle of Steel), sorry couldn't resist. If you find a biography that delves into the how he got there or breakdown of his writing style, could post? I'll do the same.
@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780
@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780 7 ай бұрын
My favorite Conan story is Altar of Victory, written by Gregory Archer. It's a rare case where I can find almost no information about the book, except for the fact that I have the book itself in my library. It's about Conan traveling to the fabled, mystical land of Hildorado (bit on the nose, but the land itself has little to nothing to do with gold) and assembling a party of misfits and thieves on the way before being subjected to a vicious gauntlet of mystical challenges that are meant to test the travelers to determine who are worthy to reach Hildorado. The reason I love it more than any other Conan story is because it employs my favorite trope of a "battle tower" where the party works their way up a tower with each floor offering a new psychological or physical challenge to overcome. Each challenge tests each of the heroes both in terms of their abilities and skills, but also attacks their flaws as people and tempts them to become their own worst enemy as well as the weak link of the whole party. It actually reads like a small Conan seinen manga series more than anything which must be why it caught my attention when I was a teen and kept it to this day
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
That sounds amazing!
@someokiedude9549
@someokiedude9549 8 ай бұрын
I have the three Del Ray editions of all the Howard Conan stories, and I've only read the first but I've really enjoyed it. I found the stories in there are not only great on their own, but also better than some modern epic fantasy series that I've read. My favorite story so far is The Frost Giant's Daughter, it's so atmospheric and I really like the Norse inspiration of the setting. The ending is really what makes that story my favorite in particular. This was a great video!
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! The Del Rey series is so good. You will definitely enjoy the second one. It has Hour of the Dragon in it.
@kurtwpg
@kurtwpg 7 ай бұрын
I can only conclude that you missed Treasure Of Tranicos in your complete works reading quest.
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 7 ай бұрын
That was never published as a Conan story by Howard. The original story was called "The Black Stranger" and didn't see print until 1987 in Echoes of Valor. Treasure of Tranicos was the version rewritten by L Sprague DeCamp so it doesn't fit the criteria of being a Conan story written by Robert E Howard.
@JustSomeGoy
@JustSomeGoy 6 ай бұрын
Red Nails will ALWAYS be my favorite adventure, really wish it would be made into a movie.
@wintermute1
@wintermute1 7 ай бұрын
I read all of Howard's Conan stories back in the late 1970's and have reread them many times over the years. I have them all on audio book too and like to listen when I drive. One thing about the stories is that Howard wrote some of the best female characters in literature.
@Davy.J.Y
@Davy.J.Y 8 ай бұрын
Great and very enjoyable review on the Conan stories . I love the Robert E Howard Conan stories, i bought the Omnibus book of Robert E Howards's Conan some years ago and i was hooked ! Robert E Howards writing style is wonderful . One of my fave stories is - ''Tower of the Elephant ''
@JosephReadsBooks
@JosephReadsBooks 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Tower is such a fun read. I have the itch to go back and read it again everytime I tell someone how good it is.
@Wolfman1491
@Wolfman1491 7 ай бұрын
I have been reading Conan since I was a teenager, I love all the old Tor Novels, I love Robert Jordan, but I bought the complete Robert E Howard Collection last year. It was amazing, beautiful writing, dated at times but in the best ways. The world has become so soft and safe, Conan is dirty, violent and uncompromising. Shadows in Zamboula, and A Witch Shall Be Born are also excellent.
@horrorcrux333
@horrorcrux333 7 ай бұрын
I read all of the REH Conan stories "in order" a few summers ago. It was absolutely fantastic. Highly recommended.
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