I really hope Sony does not kill the PSVR2 prematurely

[@MegaBearsFan]

It has been pointed out to me that I was mistaken about the PSVR requiring a PS4 Pro. After a quick Google search, I think my confusion arose from there being some extra port or something on the back of the PS4 Pro that is specifically intended for the PSVR, but which is not present on the original PS4 models. I probably read this years ago, and mistakenly thought that the PSVR wouldn't work with the original PS4 because the original PS4 lacked that special port. As said in the video, I never owned an original PSVR, so it was moot for me whether the PSVR ran on PS4 or only PS4 Pro, and I never bothered to research it more. The larger point, that the PSVR had a lot of cables, and was cumbersome to setup, is still valid. But I apologize for the misinformation. I strive to be factually accurate in all the content that I create, but I'm still only human, and make mistakes. Thanks to those who pointed out the error.

[@Reciclador]

The only differences in ports are that the Pro has an additional USB port in the back and that the Slim has no optical audio output. Other than that, all three models have the same I/O.

[@klebstoffeule]

Pacific Drive and Robocop are great examples for games, that should be playable in VR.

[@0nsights1]

Good shout that 👍

[@alexiblue6503]

I was just thinking Robocop would be amazing in VR

[@richnick1911]

VR no doubt will be the future in gaming. Right now we are still in the beginning stages of VR.

[@VRnamek]

there may be no future for VR with that attitude. Come aboard to see what you've been missing. Just looking at outdated graphics (to run fast enough in stereo) in 2D videos can't give you any real perspective...

[@toututu2993]

The way some ignorant non vr user so called haters cry and talk bad on every side of internet as they can on something they never tried

[@slainredd4339]

I think more flatscreen games getting VR support is the platform’s saving grace. People are already accustomed to what they like to play and having a VR option is a massive selling point instead of having a separate library that they’re unfamiliar with.

[@toututu2993]

Nah today's flatscreen gaming are trash. I would rather have a ps2 era games in vr like Resident Evil 4. VR hasn't really been dying for 5 straight years now. Is just that is slowly growing through Meta Quest and more people try vr with good games really liked it. I tried like 8 of the pvp vr shooting games and they both have very healthy userbase online most of the 24 hours per day. The technology of vr/ar at this point is more of a hidden gem that is very powerful but kept secretive that not a lot of people had tried yet

[@pedrol5004]

​@@toututu2993 No, not all of todays flatscreen games are bad. If you think so, you either are blinded by nostalgia or just consume mainstream slop

[@plo617]

Even though Ace Combat 7 has only 3 missions in VR, playing Ace Combat in VR is a game changer. I kinda found it hard to go back to playing the main game after trying it in VR and this is coming from a fan of the series since the first game. I really hope that ends up on PSVR2 some day..

[@MACHOx3_theRealestateGamecat]

You’re just wrong about SO MANY things in this video man…. Smh 🤦🏽 the misinformation out there about PSVR2 just continues…

[@ThatDankCheese]

Do yourself a favor and get a Logitech G29 race wheel for GT7. Absolute game changer! And it's $199 on amazon for black Friday

[@REMY_L3beau]

Only thing I didn’t agree with was re4, one of my favorites personally, and in vr, I thought it was really fun! I enjoyed it more in vr then base game cause of all the fun mechanics

[@sevenaces7965]

The psvr2 has no technical limitations that would prevent playing games at pc levels, this is because the psvr2 doesnt process or power anything, its like saying your tv cant handle big games because its a few years old lol! The limitations come from the ps5 hardware which people seem to forget is aging now and is the technical equivilent of a pc running a 3 generation old 2070. Its a weak console when compared to high end pc specs and project wingman and green hell (two of the worst games you couldve invested in fyi) were poorly optimised games on pc that required rigs far above the recomended spec to brute force the game to run acceptably! The chances of a ps5 running those at full tilt were always remote! Im no sony fan but your assumption that psvr2 would be back compatible without doing any due dilligence before buying old games was on you, so was buying project wingman without first checking if it supported your flight stick! I suggest doing some research on games before you buy them, maybe check a review or two so you dont buy terrible games that have awful review scores and then judge your system off of them! There are some amazing games on psvr2 but excluding gt7 and resi you seem to have artfully avoided every single one of them! The saints and sinners games, metro, into the radius, demeo, arizona 1 and 2, moss 1 and 2 the list is endless and yet here you are playing kayak vr, project wingman and green hell as if youre doing a wirlwind tour of the worst vr games available on the console!

[@carsidemedia9599]

Bingo 👆exactly

[@Volkovic7013]

I love the "stay the heck away from my delicate stuff you little gremlins"" gate. I feel you, I have 2 boys lol.

[@MegaBearsFan]

Yep. And the toddle LOVED getting his hands on a video game controller. We bought him toy controllers, but he knew the difference, and wanted the real things. Eventually, my compromise was to give him an old, broken PS3 controller. It looked enough like the PS4 controller, that he was content to play with that whenever I was playing the PS4. But if I played the PS5, with the white controllers, he wanted nothing to do with the black PS3 controller. It was "other PS5 controller, or bust" for him.

[@Volkovic7013]

@MegaBearsFan omg I did the same thing with an old PS4 controller lol

[@13lake]

I’ve gotten used to PSVR2, but still think the original headmount is more comfortable. I’ve found the sweetspot for the PSVR2 headmount, but..., I did slightly modify it with some semi firm foam underneath the forehead pad, and it made a considerable difference. Everyone should try this mod.

[@PaulHawkinson]

I bought a used PSVR2 for PC VR, I'm just really hoping the haptics and eye tracking carry over. Right now the adapter experience isn't great, still pretty buggy, even with all the correct Bluetooth adapters and settings. I just really wanted an OLED headset, and if they patch out the PC adapter to make it any better I will be using it a lot more. For now the quest 3 is just more seamless, I don't wanna spend half of my free time troubleshooting.

[@WorldHayes-VR]

Its up to steam vr or the game developers some PCVR games are old or done studios , Sony can't just make them features work on PC games games

[@ThatZenkiS14]

the be real gt7 was the reason a lot of folks were waiting for vr2 it is the killer game for vr2 imo. also it was said when released multiple times it doesnt play vr1 games, and in the store itself. bc those work but you need a vr1, i dont think thats a huge problem as its cheap asf now lol. if you have a pc just get the adaptor, ik use it on my ps5 and my pc as it looks better than my index altough the controllers arent as good, but you can use the index ones with the vr2. the sad truth is as much as i like vr, it still a niche market. too many mobile bs games vs good triple aaa games. if you love sim racing it perfect aside for that synapse,gt7, az1 and 2, half life, metro, pistol whip and few others are the best. also a wheel vs motion steering is way better, its not even close. a used g29, would be a good start, i have a full fanatec setup, which is way higher but the i starter with the logis.

[@13lake]

I like PSVR2, but I still have my PSVR1 hooked up, to enjoying my backlog of PS4 Pro library, or using PSVR1 to play Squadrons with the PS5 update. But not having Squadrons 2 or just a remastered with new dlc version of it on PSVR2 is a shame. What a waste of certain awesomeness.

[@GreenBay901]

If you get a fairly high-end gaming PC and the PC adapter you can play Pacific Drive and Robocop in VR using the UEVR mod. I know Beardo Benjo did a video on Pacific Drive 8 months ago.

[@toututu2993]

VR is something you think you will hate but after you tried something decent on it, you'll love it to the point you rather play games on vr than flatscreen

[@jordybandsma2645]

Hey man great video! I’ve been an owner for about half a year. I have many of the same concerns you hold about its relevance in the future. Vr is the breath of fresh air I needed in this hobby of ours and I hope it starts to really thrive next year because of all the new sales. Sadly vr is already a hard sell for many people as you have to really experience it to believe it like you mentioned. The general gaming audience often scoffs at vr announcements arguing it takes away devs from developing flat games. This kind of discourse has already flooded Alien: Rogue Incursion, Metro Awakening and the quest 3 Batman game. I think that this sentiment will continue for at the very least a phew years if not longer and by that time the ps6 will be rolling out and the psvr2 generation will be coming to a close. (Although we might receive another lengthy cross-gen cycle like early on in the ps5 generation). I am going to assume that we will be able to hook up the psvr2 to the ps6 but I don’t expect any first party support past the ps5 for this device. I do expect we get third party support for a very long time since quest standalone devices are still trying to catch up with the ps4 performance wise. This means that the psvr2 won't be the lowest common denominator for a very long time. We'll have to wait and see. Sony has been ramping up the marketing for the psvr2 (although its nowhere near enough imo), it has gotten more presence at State of Plays compared to before, the Ps Blog is still very active regarding psvr2 games. I think that we can make better predictions regarding its first party support somewhere next year.

[@ILoveUEVR]

For starters, I wish they would improve the reprojection situation on Horizon Can of the Mountain. Either increase the native FPS to 90, or do that VR Positional Reprojection trick that they did in GT7 for PS5 PRO.

[@jordybandsma2645]

@@ILoveUEVR Agree 100% The Cyubevr dev confirmed that this new technique should also be possible on the base ps5. I really like HCOTM but man the reprojection is horrible. It's also the only game where I notice it.

[@0nsights1]

There is so much potential. Vr probs be the future, I just hope they don’t abandon the psvr2 for a vr3

[@holycrusader7287]

Check out the globular cluster for your headset, it’s an awesome comfort mod. I had pressure points before that and after 30 mins of play time i had to put the vr2 down.

[@tallguy0076]

I just ordered psvr2 its onsale for 349, which includes call of the moutain. I got psvr 299 back in 2017, so im happy with the 349 price. Speaking of london Studios, i can't remember the name they had a little game on vr worlds and a stand-alone game. If you have your friends old vr, it's worth it. Im worried about sony ditching psvr, but i figured theres enough games to keep me busy for years anyway. They should consider keeping the price at 349 and maybe 299 for the set with no game. I wasn't willing to pay 599 for it myself!

[@robertogarcia8399]

Bought 2 days ago. Payed $350!

[@THEREALBRUTHABROWN]

Hoping they last. Getting mine next week

[@MRD0889]

My first vr experience is on PC with two sim titles, iracing and AMS2. That was in 2020 Its 2024 and I love VR with PS5 😍😍😍😍 Gt7, paladins, and no mans sky as of now. I'm super excited for aliens out in December and what i really want is skyrim in psv2 😅 Ps5 shook my gaming world this yr in jun, on Aug when I got the psv2 for GT7. That changed how i viewed Playstation after leaving them in 2016 for PC. I've been a Playstation consumer/ gamer since a child lol. I've owned from pS1 to now PS5, PS5 shocked me on the screen and then VR. The best part of the PS5 experience is when I tried Fortnite and BO6 on keyboard and mouse .. .. I mean like what if the holy hell dude.. why are there not more developers allowing Mouse and Keyboard on the PS5 with their games 0.o The PS5 for me is a game changer, I own a PC, but damn... just on the slim variant 120 is locked... I mean locked and the VR performance is just good. I could only imagine what the pro is capable of.

[@WorldHayes-VR]

I feel the same after purchasing psvr and ps vr2 last ps5 pro how would they kill the headsets...

[@whatever93]

Thanks for the video. Just an FYI, the base PS4 ran PSVR1 just fine, you didn't need a PS4 Pro.

[@MegaBearsFan]

Thanks for the correction regarding PSVR compatibility with original PS4 models. I think I was confused because the PS4 maybe has some extra port on the back that is intended for use with the PSVR, but the original PS4 lacked this port. I may have read that somewhere years ago, and thought that meant that the PSVR could only be plugged into a PS4 Pro because regular PS4 doesn't have the right port. I have posted a pinned comment to point out this error. In any case, the PSVR was still a pain in the ass to set up. Sooooo many cables...

[@stephenlembo7096]

Please get facts before speaking ps4 pro came after psvr so reg ps4 sure as hell played psvr u are very misleading in your videos

[@GTNover]

They arent killing it, they just wont put money into support. They want 3rd party companies to do all the heavy lifting so they can still make a profit off the machine. Its one of my favorite pieces of hardware and I wish they put more support into it.

[@NintenPizza]

The PSVR2 Logo/Library Icon on the PS5 Shop is now gone, and replaced with 'PS5 Pro Enhanced titles' :P Still, I'm really looking forward to Subside this December or early next year, and especially Resident evil 9 VR if that's actually a thing. I'd love to sell this headset and call it a wrap, but i don't have a PC. Ideally, i wish i could just connect my Quest 3 to a PS5 Pro, but that will obviously never happen.

[@coppertop9976]

​@NintenPizza not gone friend they just keep changing it's location.

[@NintenPizza]

@@coppertop9976 Sony shrunk the PSVR2 icon/thumb nail and placed it towards the top jumbled inbeween a bunch of other icons. I hope it gets a headset revision, because it desperately needs one, and with pancake lenses.

[@coppertop9976]

@NintenPizza yes and then next week it will be back in it's original location. I wouldn't hold your breath for a revision.

[@jordybandsma2645]

@@NintenPizza They wouldn’t be able to get the OLED and HDR working with Pancake lenses. Pancake lenses eat up significantly more light than Fresnel lenses. If they do make a revision it would probably be some kind of psvr2 “pro” model as they’ll have to use Micro-OLED like on the Apple Vision Pro to get it working (and yet still the psvr2 has the edge over the AVP when it comes to light output).. or they’ll have to drop OLED/HDR entirely… which is very unlikely. Tbh I would actually dig a pro model though.

[@scallysays]

This is a public service announcement: play Synapse. You're welcome

[@toututu2993]

In these days, buying gaming console is much risky and expensive than pc. Not as much exclusives, subcription payment for online play, and you can't do much with it. You could have get the pc if backward compatible is really an issue for you because 99% of the game on console will eventually be on pc

[@sarahwhite7098]

It's an unsolveable problem. PSVR2 will always be smaller than the PS5 install base (obviously). History tells us it will be a LOT smaller - see Sega Menacer, Mega-CD, N64 RAM expansion, driving wheel sales, 32X etc. Games cost an absolute tonne which means that games need to sell loads. You know how Xbox are putting their exclusives onto PlayStation? They've sold 30m consoles. PSVR2 has sold 2m. If Xbox is not making enough money with 15x as many sales, how do you think that Sony and its partners can keep making VR games? The only way we get close to this working is to start with the standalone consoles - the Meta Quest series. They reported they were around 16m units with Quest2. Then it's a smaller (but not zero) cost to port to PSVR2. Ah...but we've spent $1000 on a PS5 and PSVR2 - we don't want ports of cheap Quest games! Especially as the Quest audience (tweens) is different to the PSVR2 audience (core gamers). I see two solutions. One is that Sony develops a standalone headset that's enhanced when attached to the base console - like Quest and PC. I don't think Sony will be interested in this route; it's extremely expensive, they've not done brilliantly with handhelds in the past and Meta's sales don't demonstrate a huge VR audience. The second solution is that someone develops an automatic conversion tool that enables flat games to be played in VR. We've seen progress on this in PC. This wouldn't be optimal but it would inflate the library. Sorry to say but I just don't think the economics work out for PlayStation style games in VR.

[@MicheleConroy-i7l]

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[@neonpop80]

Just please bring Astrobot Rescue mission to Psvr2!

[@VRnamek]

VR is the most wide nextgen jump ever in videogames and even with all psvr 1 limitations, I was sold immediately. Never left, just quit flatgaming altogether after decades of same button-mashing. I'm waiting for more full ports like GT, RE and, yes, Skyrim. People don't seem to understand that VR presence puts a different spin on games: it's less about goals and urgency and more about simply enjoying being in that virtual world. I hate most stupid minigames and horror walking sims in dark hallways. They absolutely don't understand what makes VR tick. Skyrim does. Even simplified, made for VR ports like Green Hell or Medieval Dynasty understand what makes VR engaging... I just hope the likes of Forza Horizon or The Crew come to VR. I want to just drive around beautiful landscapes in awesome cars - it's not merely about yet another fast racing game... edit: Lol nice quite of Chief O'Brien on the holodeck. Yup, VR is a lot more physical than regular button-mashing on a sofa. But hey, we're getting old, buddy. A bit of workout is good and especially good if fun in good games anyway, welcome to VR. Motion sickness is non issue soon and welcome to getting at frustrated at lack of major games, even older ones...

[@Giants83]

VR has a lot of great tittles out. Unfortunately, it is not mainstream enough for non VR gamers to recognize. The one company i feel can take VR to a mainstream level is Nintendo. They have dabeled in VR in the past but never went full throttle. The fanbase and library of games Nintendo has would open a whole new door. I know the chances are slim but Nintendo does think out of the box... So you never know.

[@andyisabeast7782]

Try tightening the vr under the like 'shelf' on the back of your head, if you know what I mean. It takes the weight off your face

[@dr.sam.zaki.1]

my brother you must give it a shot with pavlov vr2 game you gonna love it

[@WorldHayes-VR]

If you can find Rigs MECHANIZED COMBAT LEAGUE on PlaystationVR 1 i feel its the best VR game ever my Favorite

[@cory2016]

Cool video. I think it's gonna be my second favorite console 2.

[@METTI1986LA]

I really hope they sell it for a normal price in the future…

[@Sideways_Singh]

For me its more then worth it for gt7 alone n thats what I bought it for, everything else is a huge bonus. N with the ps5 pro gt7 is signifiicantly better in vr, n worth it for gt7 alone n what I bought it for. Gta 6 will be epic on it aswell, if we can get over 50 fps, or else I'm willing to wait for pc. 30fps is unplayable even though I'm a hardcore gta lover, I will be forced to wait for pc.

[@MeowtualRealityGamecat]

I don't think they will as its amazing. Top quality and the games are really good, think they will keep on running with it but just not pump to much cash into the games, that being said the games library is getting crazy good and its not been out that long considering the tec in it. Plus they ran with the psvr for years and that library is One of the best to date, some of the games still hold up today, the only down side whats the set up in my opinion, there is little to no friction on psvr2

[@dr.sam.zaki.1]

believe me you are paying penny's on games compared to egypt we pay at least triple the cost of usa in form of taxis

[@riobartes1917]

Don't ever go digital and keep your ps 4

[@tommycain5558]

You should go back and resident evil 7 in VR I almost had a heart attack that's one of the reasons I brought a PS5 and vr 2 I wouldn't have bought either if I knew they weren't going to make games for the vr I mean the PS4 graphics look just like the PS5 and there still making games for the PS4 so there's no reason to buy the ps5

[@SwuadeTV]

I get whachu saying about the backlog, but it's void to me since you played them flat already when you did care about psvr. Don't see why you'd be bothered by it at that point when the psvr2 is better

[@cory2016]

We getting alots games there so many great games on psvr2 and alots more coming like alien and BeHemoth and other cool ones

[@toututu2993]

Is kind of sad that VRChat ruined VR because that game/social platform is trash in vr

[@josh.lo8572]

I got metro awakening because was the most waited game and i cant stand it and i don't want to finish it

[@v.cuavers7764]

Just got mine…

[@v.cuavers7764]

Need some VR friends… who has after the fall or Arizona sunshine remake?

[@VRCore.]

Pointless video

[@oppa1319]

Quest is helping PSVR2 stay afloat. I personally prefer the quest games like Batman.