I restored a Mid-School, full suspension mountain bike.

[@chrisrielly1739]

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[@EvansMTBSaga]

You did it

[@adissonwatleyMTB123]

That got me good

[@Christophe_L]

Solid advice. Reading is underrated.

[@m.m_cutzz]

I didn't get it until 5 seconds

[@Coolshortsvideo1]

I was like, “ why isn’t it working”

[@danielvalverdeortiz2216]

A narrow wide chainring will help, a chainring from a 3x is meant to "drop" the chain since you have to shift. Clutch will also help a lot

[@Oregonfreerider]

Raceface is great too

[@chrisrielly1739]

You could get a chain guide or tensioner if it has Bach guard mounts

[@jrockthecasbah]

Narrow wide chainrings are usually about $12-20. Try an oval and round and see what suits your riding style.

[@mtbboy1993]

true, but the way he rides, he needs a chainguide even with a clutch. he should get a bash guide to protect chainring and keep chain in place.

[@bentoth2494]

@@mtbboy1993 wym? He literally only rides xc trails and sum tiny jumps 🤣

[@mw4518]

If you are gonna ride it 1x, you have to get a narrow wide chainring.

[@robertmills6241]

what a noob move...

[@shoking9825]

@@robertmills6241 wdym

[@dglip]

Took that Matt Jones build lapse beat. Such a good one

[@AC-ww6nf]

Before clutches we had chain guides(mrp, dmr etc.), chain tensioners or just 2 bash guards. And learned how to load and unload the drivetrain while riding. A skill I think that is lost with newer riders.

[@dylanwalker1205]

Shift at the bottom of your stroke :)

[@tinivations]

A lot of people have suggested a narrow wide chainring, and that will help for sure. Another thing to check out would be the chain length. If you just reinstalled it from the 3x setup, it is definitely too long. It used to need to feed on both the largest cogs on the front and rear. If you size it down to fit the new 1x chainring only, that will help.

[@samhenderson7528]

umm no, the chain length from a 3x should not be long enough to be in the largest cog (rear) while in gear 3 in the front. this gear combo should NEVER be used and therefore you dont need as much chain, nevertheless, you do need to shorten the chain when going 1x

[@dariens1168]

I love old school stuff. It’s so awesome

[@AmogusSusAmongusSussyBakaAmogg]

When you did the 1x drivetrain system change, make sure that the sprocket is alternating between thick and thin teeth. Those chainrings are made for 1x. What you did was take the smallest sprocket of a 3x and those stay on the teeth by help of the front derailleur. make sure that the chainring has this in the future.

[@mathisonnivens731]

I can definitely tell that your favorite KZbinr is Berm Peak

[@danlford]

I think the idea of narrow bars was to be able to get between things. My local trail had a spot where you had to go between 2 trees that were really close together. As time passed the trees grew and so did bar sizes. So the trail was rerouted around the trees.

[@larryisaak6431]

This has got to be one of my favorite videos you have created, well done👍

[@Oregonfreerider]

Sick video! One thing I would suggest doing is use rubbing alcohol or compressed air to take off push-on grips. WD-40 leaves behind a residue that will make the grips near impossible to use again because they will be all oily.

[@ronm7489]

Was just going to say the same thing.

[@lastfm4477]

Rubbing alcohol is so easy to use (put in squirt bottle). Keep that WD-40 for unsticking old Shimano shifters with hardened grease.

[@lee-tx5mw]

slide the brake levers to push them off they come of easy esp during the washing .

[@lastfm4477]

Cheapest degreaser is Purple Power - $5-$8/gallon. Easy to find in auto parts stores and places like Home Depot, etc...

[@onedsf]

Really liking the quality of this edit and the content. Keep up the great work!

[@johnschmidt5839]

Just picked up a 2006 Giant Anthem 2 today in similar condition for $200 as well. Already ordered the handlebar, stem & pedals & have a 30T narrow wide to swap out the 3x. This vid is exactly what I was needing, thanks!!

[@Dylivexo]

you are one of the best bike yts out there keep it up

[@armandojuan64]

My favorite videos , upgrading old bikes .

[@eugene44569]

There are two good restoration channels i watch. Probably the most famous one oldshovel- who normally restores and builds higher level older bikes. And there is comet restoration who restores big box caliber bikes for cheap. Those channels are really good and worth checking out

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Yeah old shovel is good and I recently got on the kick with RJ the bike guy. Some of those channels just do a lot of painting but I don't want to paint a frame just yet

[@TheButlerNZ]

I found a good general cleaner is CT18 (I have no affiliation). From Motorbike trail riding we used to put it on before the ride and directly after when loading back on the trailer, and the dirt just washed off with a hose like you polished it.. and supposedly it's pH neutral so is fine on paint when left on for the trip home etc. I use break clean (tried several brands, all seem ok) to clean off grease as it moves the grit quicker than degreaser and leaves nothing behind... Paint/decals may be an issue but never gave me any issues. You can clean/regrease the sealed bearings in the bottom bracket if you are VERY careful removing the seals... I usually remove them with a jewelers screwdriver from the outside radius to prevent damage to the seal... I've tapped a mis-shapened seal back into shape tho, it's not like a bit of deflection etc in the seal matters... it's more important that the bearings are clean. Having said that, my Giant Faith's set was surprisingly cheap, and probably only needs replacement once in its life! (Mine was 10yr old). Removing sticker gum... Try using the bits you already peeled off, re-sticking them over the gum and peeling them back off... Then try cello tape... You can often remove the gum easier by it sticking onto cello tape or other stickers, than using a solvent and pushing it around... Use a hair drier as stickers remove better when warm/hot. Perhaps WHITE cables to accent the white stripes. You already have Red, White, Black & silver... Adding another colour can detract from the scheme. There are plenty of one sprocket chain guides available, some also double as a bash guard. Make sure to get a guide that manages both top and bottom so backpedaling doesn't drop the chain. (my video of my old '98 Foes, rebuilt in 2k, uses a design that can be replicated by any one handy in the garage).. Great result Evan.. Want to fix up my Foes next.... q8)

[@jrockthecasbah]

Thanks for the tips. I like to fix and flip older quality bikes and always trying to learn about what cleaners and lubes work best.

[@TheButlerNZ]

@@jrockthecasbah You may be able to get away with using a single sprocket (Wide narrow) instead of a 'One of 3' which is by design, made to allow the chain to freely ride off the sprocket (due to the computer designed "worn" look of the teeth). The cheapest fix is to fit the derailleur back on the front, and lock it in place with the adjusting screws. Lover the tyre change affect.... would have taken a LOT more effort but would have looked even more impressive if the old tyre flew off the other side... Incidentally in my "Gear Failure" video, my front tyre dismounts itself WITHOUT camera effects... (An old stock Maxxis stretched a bead.. Hilarity ensued)

[@heathr2072]

Full blue. Loved this build. Just wish I had your skills, riding and building!

[@theretrobikeshed3392]

Love the old treks, retro treks and retro kona have to be some of the best bikes I’ve ridden 🚲👍

[@thomashardbattle4287]

You are seriously underestimating the possibility and mechanical capability. I have a mid 90s frame and that still holds modern parts

[@caseys_cozy_garage]

This is a super cool build. i love the idea that you can still have fun on and with old bikes

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I had more fun on this bike than my Mythique

[@RustyMTB]

Mountain Bikes started out as beach cruisers with bigger tires and 10s drivetrains. They picked up a lot of road bike-y things as years went on to make them ligher, more aero, etc. MTBs were also the every man’s bike because they could do both and that’s where the narrow bars come from. Every year they’ve strayed away farther and farther from road bikes and become more purpose built. Wide handle bars like we have today were likely an experiment, and it worked well so the industry rolled with it.

[@alancastro4134]

Good job evans! Nice restored old one to give a new look.

[@alancastro4134]

I never have a rear shock mtb. Iam excited to ride.

[@Jesticles85]

Great job on this! if you get a chain guide, it will help keep the chain on and reduce chain slap at the same time. i made one out of a reflector bracket.

[@kult9569]

love it man ! fun to think that this bike was a dream ride 20 years ago

[@madmikemtb105]

Yes narrow wide chain ring will make huge difference and a chain tensioner or clutch derailleur will get rid of chain drops

[@AdrenalineIsLife]

Thats a steal at $200 in this environment. A narrow-wide chain ring or a chain guide will solve the dropped chain issue. Chain ring is probably the cheaper option. Great video!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I was pretty pumped to get that deal, especially for a full sus. I felt like it was a little risky with the rear shock being deflated but it still worked out. I have big things planned for the drivetrain!

[@AdrenalineIsLife]

@@EvansMTBSaga looking forward to seeing what you do with it!

[@simonroels6708]

Really enjoyed the video, mountainbike restaurations are some of my favourite content!

[@fcmtb301]

This guy can literally do anything much love❤

[@71kevman]

A narrow-wide chainring will help you avoid chain drops. A 3d printed guide on your chainstay will stop chain slap.

[@humbabe95]

Yup Daniel Valverde Ortiz is right. That chainring you repurposed has ramps on the teeth designed to easily move the chain up and down the triple chain ring with the derailuer .

[@brad571]

I'd say get some blue fooker pedals and the blue hoses for the brakes. Would look sick!

[@keepbman]

I've got a 2006 fuel 70 I still rock out on the trails! It's a beaut

[@johndef5075]

A narrow wide chainring and cheap chainguide should do the trick. Works for me on a non clutch SLX 10 speed derailleur. Less dropped chains than my clutched derailleurs.

[@theshedMTB]

Good episode , i really enjoyed it.

[@wil717]

Nice! I needed some inspiration for a 2008 GF Fat Possum that I bought on the web. I am a total old schooler but want to try full-suspension on a 26er. And while I have modern bikes I still really love the narrow handlebar stance esp with bar ends.

[@purplegarage05]

For 200$ even with the problems it has? That's a steal!

[@eugene44569]

He lives in phoenix. Phoenix has great deals on bikes. Well places that get hot as hell in the summer have great deals on bikes

[@Digital_Gangster]

Yep I lived in Phoenix and used to get lots of deals. It's a huge city with huge MTB scene. Sellers in some places would be asking $1,000 for this lol

[@eugene44569]

@@Digital_Gangster yep esipalcay here in the NYC area. People want 1 grand for a trek marlin 5 and bike scalpers are everywhere.

[@Digital_Gangster]

@@eugene44569 it's getting back to normal. Helps to expand your search though. Me and a friend drove 4 hr round trip to a small city for him to get a deal on a modern bike

[@eugene44569]

@@Digital_Gangster I live in nj and my freind drove to Ohio since he found a good deal on a xxl trek marlin 5. My freind is 6'6 so he needs a xxl. Even a xl is too small for him.

[@GoodTrails]

Narrow bars were influenced by the trails of the time. In the 90s, trails weren't wide like they are now. Often times riders would be hitting their hands and bars on trees - especially on trails in the eastern united states and canada. Occasionally, i'll stumble upon one of these ancient trails and pretty much have to stop to get my wide bars through the trees at some points!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha good to know! The oldest trail I ride was made less than 10 years ago

[@lastfm4477]

Scott and others even made bars with built-in hand protection in the form of wrap around "bar ends". Very useful back in the day on such trails.

[@bentoth2494]

You should get yourself a nice set of park tool NP-6 plyers! They are around $30-$40 and a very worthwhile investment. The have A lifetime warranty and some cool features. They got crimpers, really good cutters, and some other stuff too. Seriously worth the investment

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Good recommendation. I've been holding off buying nice tools because I want to get a tool sponsor haha. But that sounds like a good birthday gift! I'll let my family know. Thanks Ben!

[@travislivengood2744]

Use the correct narrow wide front ring and throw a wide ratio cassette on. That shock should have a damping adjustment to fine tune around the air pressure. That bar width just freaks me out on a 26" bike. I regularly ride a similar vintage Kona Dawg Deluxe with not "OG" cut down narrows like I did in the day, but no where near that wide. I'd be afraid to smashy size knees! 26" bikes, especially the ones that came in that mid to late 2000s era are incredible bikes. Well thought out suspension, tough as nails frames and really really nimble geometry. I love them over 29ers except for really high speed descents...slack and huge diameter will always win at that.

[@max.racing]

I dont like to mix blue with red, but in this case it looks awesome! But i really loved the old tires on the bike. The rest is awesome! I would install some guides for the front derailer and also some chain guides along the frame. Also maybe make the chain shorter, this helps normally.

[@JaronBarendse]

Awesome video! Think your chain issues were from not using a narrow-wide chainring going with the 1x setup. I completely overhauled my old Scott scale from 2010 with all modern components and it completely changed the ride. I think the single biggest upgrade to change the feel of the bike was the tires and wider bars.

[@thomashardbattle4287]

Tbh I hate people going old bikes are shit. They weren't they were good and were good for their day keep that in mind.

[@TheCaptainsCog]

I feel like Mtb's went leaps and bounds from 06 to 2011 when my Giant trance x was made. I got the first year of the tapered HT, thru axle front wheel and way better linkage. Crazy but that bike still looks fun. Awesome build man. Make it a mullet dude!!!!

[@bruhbruh3728]

If you have used the original front chainring the chain will fall off as it is not narrow wide if you buy a cheap narrow wide front ring it may solve your problem

[@yamayash2920]

Can you please put a link to the rockshox bar rebuild kit?

[@mikejones420]

well, old video I know, but you have to keep in mind, that back in the 90's and early 2000's bike geo including narrow bars, and longer stems were still being based off of road cycling, and pure cross country riding on tracks that were pretty tame

[@robinrai4973]

he-hey, it's weird to see my current bike! Mine's a Fuel 90, with some Suntour air forks and deore 1x11. Don't bother taking apart the linkage, just loosen the bolts slightly and use lots of locktite. Mine came with a better rear shock but it's still stiff, I'm guessing it's just the tune. The limited travel, old geo and it being a size too small is why I've just bought another bike!

[@WOLFTICKVIDEOS]

Not sure if we said it already, but congrats on 7K🎉🎊 You might pass us up by the end of the year.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Thanks! I saw you guys hit 11k which is awesome!!

[@WOLFTICKVIDEOS]

@@EvansMTBSaga Thanks buddy🥰

[@rogergrant455]

Great video, guy! Hope you really enjoy your bike going forward with any upgrades you make God bless!

[@roryf3710]

Love the channel!!

[@nicholashall575]

The key for this bike is to fully understand what type of bike this is. This bike was sold as an xc bike so if I go to the trails expecting to be bombing down hills and hitting big drops, I'm gonna be disappointed. 11:22

[@roansactionsports]

The semi-new video style is epic!

[@jonsey2840]

Let’s go dude great vid congrats on passing 7k subs👏😁

[@komoonkh]

Great content! Bike looks fun. Just replace the chainring with some cheap narrow wide (snail, deckas,motsuv) and you are good to go.

[@eugene44569]

Next do a bike build with NO sram or shimano parts. I challenge you. Includes everything that sram and shimano make including rockshox. Could look challenging but its not as challenging as you may think

[@sciguyisanerd]

Both of my mountain bikes are from 2006, one is a giant trance 1 that I built up with modern components and the other is a santa cruz vp free that I also built up myself

[@charliep3108]

Great video! Little bit of mat jones music phahaa!

[@noviceinvestoruk2955]

Thoroughly enjoyed this video mate 👌👌👌

[@lee-tx5mw]

you dont need degreaser just a strong detergant and water solution ,hot water if its really stubborn

[@mtbboy1993]

You need a chainguide, you ride hard. you can install an BB to ISCG05 adapter and install any modern chainguide on it. MRP & E13 offer those, but I am sure there are more..

[@Harry-mw8mf]

Hi GREAT vid as always, there seems to be a good audience for restoring/ Flipping bikes on KZbin so I think try and flip bikes for a profit and watch more people enjoy your videos !! Keep it up 😎😎😎

[@daytonabeachUSA]

Bare hand in degreaser is a terrible idea. We need our human grease. Love your channel.

[@wesleyjackman751]

Love your channel man! Keep doing what you’re doing! It’s always so inspiring watching builds like this. I have done a few similar builds recently and honestly one of the biggest things I would suggest for reducing your chain falling off is at least a narrow wide chainring up front. If you are wanting to keep your rear cassette as is, I would go with a something more than 34t. That should reduce it quite a bit. Other than that, the only thing I can think of is going with a clutched derailleur. At that point, the box or advent group sets both work awesome if you are counting your dollars. Definitely going to follow this one to see what you do next. Cheers!

[@janataman9196]

A much shorter stem isn´t always a good idea. Espiacally on older bikes this step will often ruin the geometry.

[@the_blair_bike_project]

Exact same derailleur hanger alignment tool i bought. I was impressed with the quality for the price

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Yeah man it's super solid. I've seen it compared to the Park Tool and they're almost identical

[@dannyblake6053]

Ride this in wooded trails and the narrow handlebars can be a plus.

[@huskerfan3352]

Love the brand cyclospirt they are good people and their products are awesome

[@mtbboy1993]

the old treks had nice pivots, like this one, no bearings could be pushed out while riding, unlike newer, but I see the Top Fuel now has dual shear pivot. I've not tried the old nor the new bikes.

[@kaseykohler1490]

Please wear gloves when working with degreasers and denatured alcohol. Its pretty gnar stuff. Nice work man!

[@joshmanwaring3848]

Mid school is golden era bicycles

[@declan4245]

You need a narrow wide chain ring it will stop your chain falling off a lot more

[@nonameuser9664]

Seems berm peak inspired, but still great video, the bike came out great 👍

[@nonameuser9664]

If your chain is falling then try putting it in the biggest gear and pull the chain out untill the derailur won't move anymore. That should give you an idea of how much chain to remove.

[@anishg777]

love the ridingf music. Never stop bro

[@VenturaIT]

Looks exactly like the Motiv Vortex that I got for $125 as the floor model from Costco 15-20 years ago.

[@mykieschannel6689]

you should want to replace narrow wide chainring on that cranks, that should solve the chain drops, it works for me tho

[@matthewjohansalonga371]

cool bike dude

[@manzanaenfermo5859]

cool bike

[@ForEverMTB]

Congrats on the 7k bro.... I wish to have half of your skills😅 awesome video as always. Greetings from Mexico

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Thanks man! Working on the bike is all about having the desire to do it. With all the info on KZbin, you can do all bike repairs!

[@Jonathan-li2iz]

Let’s go he uploaded

[@MTBAlex]

12:08 the problem is those chain rings are not narrow-wide, just slap one in there and it will be fine

[@sim_dude]

don't spend 40$ on blue hoses :D if you put it toward the bike, get a narrow wide chain ring it'll help for the chain drops and some chainstay protection for that nice paint. bigger tires is a must, looks like you were close to edge of traction a few time in your clips. Now that versus an axum what would you prefer ? i m guessing the trek. Also rear wheel look like a single wall rim, carefull if it is, they tend to get out of true and taco pretty easily.

[@jimbobjoe4696]

the chain fell off becuase the chainring was desinged to allow the chain to shift off so you need a narrow to wide chainring to kepp it on

[@WOLFTICKVIDEOS]

Dude, nice job on another great video. You have dialed in your editing for sure👍. We have been looking at those mics lately. How much ambient noise do they pickup? We are tired of burning up in our shop from not running the ac while filming🥵.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Yo! That was my first video with the Rode Go 2. It's a keeper. I tried another Lav microphone system and returned it so fast haha. I've also tried a $400 overhead boom mic (picked up so much ambience). The Rode still picked up my AC noise, but I just added Denoise effect in Premiere and it helped. But I ultimately turned off the AC for the main talking clips. Thanks for the props!!

[@bencourter5333]

Absolutely banger as always 🤙

[@AlexGirodo]

i like how you serviced everything except the brakes...

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I should've explained. The brakes, rear wheel, and drivetrain were all installed a year before I purchased. I guess a neighbor kid had thrashed it. So brakes were dialed!

[@Twentykixx]

If Trek were smart, looking at the geo of this older rig, could be a precursor to a new breed of gravel/road bike thing. Simply stretch the frame to current specifications for a cross-bred lockable front and rear short travel rig @100mm of travel and voila, all everything commercial commuter bike. Inverted fork and integrated rear shock, I might be tempted to have one with a battery too. 😄🤘 Shredda! I know Trek is more about trends and market share, so probably an idea for a Euro outfit like SCOTT! My only caveat, I want a freebie for the idea! LOL!

[@davidduffey7658]

Kinda late to the game, but I noticed alot of chain when you put it back on after it derailed. Original chain length is based on largest front and rear sprocket tooth count. Shorter chain would create more tension via rear derailer's tensioner.

[@gulfcitynd]

My trek fx is 1x8 now run the front derailleur as a guide you don't even to do much just screw all the limits In

[@stevebennett3587]

👌great re-build

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Thanks Steve! Nice new thumbnail!

[@matiasm.3124]

Nice work !

[@jan-olegast5533]

Your fork is backwards… great work, keep it up!

[@Iseekoutthetrails]

Bike Turned Out Nice.

[@doncrescas]

Looked like you were not aligning the derailleur hanger gauge with the valve stem (or any other fixed point on the wheel. If the wheel is out of true this will throw things off.

[@NS-zv9qf]

You are looking at a full wheel rebuild with modern rims and obsolete hubs to get the tires right.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha that's so funny. How did you know what my next video would be about!!!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

And obsolete means not in production anymore, but luckily there are many things for this bike that are still produced (just not popularly used anymore)

[@Digital_Gangster]

I think the sweet spot for older fs 26 is 2008 and up. Better geo and aesthetics and can still be found for cheap.

[@j.bridges2921]

You were missing the white plastic bushings for the rear triangle link. I have the same model and mine has them

[@GhettoSuguru]

May I know what torque wrench , degreaser , cleaner/ cleaning sprays and oils you used ?