I review ALL 60 TWO THIN COATS paints by Duncan Rhodes (and compare them to Citadel Colours!)

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Do we really need yet another paint range? This is an in-depth review of all 60 Two Thin Coats paints from Duncan Rhodes' Kickstarter. Do they reinvent the wheel or are the paints just a cash grab to exploit Duncan's popularity? #duncanrhodes #twothincoats #review
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Disclaimer: This is not a sponsored review. I received these products free of charge as review samples, thoughts, and opinions are my own.
⏭️ Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:23 The features
3:33 The 48 acrylic colours
8:15 The 6 metallics
9:31 The 6 washes
10:25 My recommendation
11:42 Roundup Pros & Cons
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[@naphaneal]

what I don't understand, is how the pricing is reasoned. the kickstarter should have provided enough backing...

[@ryanandtricia]

This is the most objective, intelligent, and well-articulated hobby review video I have ever seen. Bravo and thank you.

[@MrScrawnjuan]

I backed the first kickstarter and am pretty happy with the results. As a beginner painter, I like having the colours in 3 shades. It's too bad that they ended up being so expensive.

[@sircdrom]

These reviews of paint ranges you do are really excellent. Well structured, easy to listen to and informative!

[@tinyfishhobby3138]

I appreciate the really comprehensive review. Sounds like a good addition to someone’s paint collection if the price doesn’t put you off.

[@davedogge2280]

This is the in depth review of these paints I've been waiting for .... for months now. thanks.

[@brianhall4182]

Every time I see new paints I always get the urge to try them out in spite of already owning plenty. I started off with Army Painter, moved into Citadel, then to Vallejo, and finally to Pro Acryl which is what I've been using since Christmas. Yet I look at stuff like Scale 75 and AK and think to myself "Hm... I wonder how THEIR colors are...?" Same thing with Duncan's.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

This is how addiction starts... welcome to the club :)

[@iLiKeFooDNuMNuM]

I dislike that about myself.

[@arandomlostsoul753]

Thanks for another comprehensive paint range review, might pick some of these paints up for X-mas :)

[@DigitalOrigami]

Great review. I love the consistency of the paint across the range. I agree some of the triads are a little too close in colour, but I’m hoping a round two will balance some of those issues out. I’m very happy with my purchase.

[@steveisaak4320]

I am somewhat new to the hobby, I kickstarted this when I was very ill, I am happy I did. I liked how they included a painting chart matching their paints up with Army Painter and Games Workshop paint ranges.

[@Qiinsr]

Interesting and useful review. Need to grab some Duncan shades when my old GW ones run out.

[@timbe7979]

Great useful review!

[@Ahriman_362]

Thanks for the review. I was thinking about getting some of these but citadel is already expensive and it fulfills my needs. I'm not sure if it was wise to charge more than citadel tbh but i wish duncan all the best

[@keRrYsTuArT101]

It's really like to see you review scale 75 paints artist range

[@RESURRECT2]

Your charts are amazing! Sub goes.

[@frenchii111]

Great review! Will you be doing one for the new vallejo Xpresscolors as well? I want to try out contrast paint style painting and am curious about their performance.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Yes! Working on these next, give me two or three weeks :)

[@frenchii111]

@@stahly_taleofpainters Awesome :D Your reviews are great and as objective as possible and the color swatches are also some of the best! Keep up the good work

[@mirage809]

I've been interested in Duncan's paint range since he announced them. Very close matches to Citadel paints, but in droppers and with shades a bit more like the old formulation sounds like something I'd enjoy. The high opacity is something I appreciate and metallics that don't completely fall apart in the pot is a godsend. (I swear, I've gone through more Liberator Gold pots than I'd like to admit because of how badly the separate.) I hope I'll be able to get them at a more local store for me, mainly so I can see the paint in the pot for myself before I pull the trigger.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Yeah I‘ll be throwing my Liberator Gold as well, the Two Thin Coats light gold is the same colour!

[@Serpsor]

The Spartan Bronze paint separates in the pot over time; the other ones don't. At least it comes with a ball so shaking it works.

[@Dracobyte]

Great review!

[@DrNorbertGames]

Great job on this thorough and objective video. I have the Kickstarter set and agree with most of your comments. I found though that not all of my colours are the same consistency out of the bottle. Some come out rather thick and some come out as liquid that shouldn't be diluted when basecoating. Do you have access to their Spirit Medium and the two blood paints? It'd be great to get a follow-up review from you on them, especially the Medium to complement the medium review you posted (which is also great).

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Unfortunately not :( How do you like them?

[@DrNorbertGames]

@@stahly_taleofpainters Ah, bummer. I've been painting only Marvel Crisis Protocol lately, so haven't had reason to use them yet. Hopefully someone local can lend you the 3 bottles to review!

[@markgnepper5636]

Great stuff friend 👏 👍

[@Xebeche1860]

I am highly tempted to try this paint range after my two-year-painting-hiatus (had our first baby and de facto no time). I hate Citadel bottles with a passion, only keep some shades, technicals and contrast paints around. I do own quite a few Vallejo Model Colors but I long for some bright colors and more ease of application. Until wave 2 of TTC is around, I could fill the gaps in the range with what I still have at hand easily. I mostly paint board game and skirmish game miniatures, so a little transitioning from one brand to another is no big deal for me. The price is steep but I am willing to pay for good quality and can afford to do so. Still a bit torn between Duncan‘s brand and the new Game Color range though. Also, I want to try the new Citadel washes and some of the Vallejo XPress paints for shading and glazing to supplement the excellent acrylic color paints. Thanks for the great reviews! I only found your channel quite recently and I am loving it 🙂

[@danbyer4764]

Great review as always. At 10:15 though Zealot Yellow is a Speedpaint, not a GW one. Not sure which one you meant there.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Ah, damn. It's supposed to be Reikland Fleshshade.

[@sweatilaa5325]

oh, they'll be even more expensive than Citadel paints?? Was hoping that they would end up in the AK Interactive and Vallejo price range of about €3 per bottle :/ Might check out the washes in this range since I liked the old Citadel washes, depending on the price of course.

[@Dandyphonic]

With their new kickstarter, if you take the full range, they are actually way cheaper. I just went all in and know I won't regret it as I really enjoyed painting with my friends' first wave.

[@Wijkert]

Thank you for your overview of these paints?

[@heliumfreak5364]

Nice to see they have a good review, i backed this kickstarter however i dont have enough experience with paints to know if they were actually comparatively good or not :)

[@weekendwargamers]

Fantastic video, liked and subbed

[@babyschaf1]

Thanks for the review! I really might try them. I like the slight satin sheen and since Vallejo messed up the new game color in this regard, they seem very nice :) Would you consider reviewing Pro Acryl at some time? I don’t know what it is but I seem to struggle with them, they leave some kind of a textured finish when baseboard with that irritates me while everyone else just seems to sing hymns about them.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Yeah would love to review ProAcryl at some point, I heard from a few people who are struggling with them. Definitely planned for this year.

[@babyschaf1]

@@stahly_taleofpainters Thank you! Very much looking forward to it :)

[@cobbil]

I got the Dragon's Gold color at my local shop. Its ok. Compared to Retributor Armor (which is what it looks like to me), its more matte and abit less colorful, even on a second coat. It still looks good, though, and I will probably use it for a less shiny gold color.

[@zedoc8409]

Germans make the best reviews❤ no seriously wonderful review 🎉

[@Studio54ithy123]

great vid

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Download my Two Thin Coats paint swatches here: www.patreon.com/stahlytaleofpainters/shop/two-thin-coats-hand-painted-colour-2-0-134369 Update: There have been reports of leaking bottle tips with Two Thin Coats, and I had this issue with a few paints as well. Apparently, it's because they overfilled some of the bottles, and when you give them a shake, paint makes its way out. But it's not too much of an issue, just wipe the tip clean after use, and after a while, once you used up the excess paint, the tips will no longer leak.

[@Andyyybeeeee]

yeah the price was a big issue for me, i know not all like army painter but i use both them and citadel and i prefer army painter and against cost and my skill level i am very pleased with the quality and as always Army painter strive to improve all the time. communication and products in my experience are ever improving :) Thanks for the video, Vallejo, Army painter for me for the foreseeable future. :)

[@danf.712]

I'll check AK and Pro Acryl for sales.

[@Wijkert]

5:50 to be fair, Evil Sunz is not that saturated or vibrant compared to any pure pigment red.

[@jamesyoung9763]

Is it just me, or are "Sepia" washes from (all of) these companies not really Sepia at all? Sepia is a very dark red-brown colour; every instance of a wash being called Sepia in miniature paint (that I have seen) is much more yellow (e.g. Raw Sienna) than you could possibly achieve using Sepia ink.

[@Chamomileable]

I think the price is the big kicker for Duncan. It's the curse of being a smaller production via Kickstarter. As nice as some of these are, I think I'll stick to Vallejo, AK, and Turbo Dork for my paint needs.

[@ideiben3190]

Ak works GREAT. Ak also has so much when it comes to weathering and such. I also use AK 'real color' hybrid Acrylic Lacquers which spray unbelievably smooth through my airbrushes...mostly for larger work, where brushing the paint is not acceptable to me.

[@NitroModelsAndComics]

I am goving the white, silver and black a try. It os hard to beat Vallejo black for me but I am finging the TTC black to be very good. NOT as good as Vallejo 70.950 but for me nothing gets as close so far.

[@Razyrazer]

Hi stahly would you recommend trooper white over corax white?

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

No, Trooper White is a very light eggshell colour, while Corax White is a very light grey. So they do totally different things.

[@Razyrazer]

Thank you

[@keRrYsTuArT101]

If only I could buy this in the us

[@fancymichael6113]

Zealot Yellow doesn't exist in Citadel range. This is a Speedpaint from Army Painter.

[@Wijkert]

10:53 I was under the impression that the finish of these paints are quite a bit more matt than Citadel and comparable to AK 3rd gen/Vallejo Model color.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

I'd say they are inbetween, most Model Color paints are definitely more matt than Two Thin Coats.

[@Leofilmperson]

The only relevant finish is that of the final varnish, isn't it?

[@Wijkert]

@@Leofilmperson only if you end with a overall coat of varnish and I don't. I like to preserve the different finishes, so don't want to unify the look.

[@Leofilmperson]

@@Wijkert When I want different finishes, I'll use brush-on varnishes after the spray-on one. I'm not putting my minis in a display case for all eternity. They're meant for gaming, hence longevity of the paint job is paramount.

[@Wijkert]

@@Leofilmperson mine are meant for display

[@sdddf5355]

looks like the quality is top notch, even better than vallejo tbh. Vallejo is my fav brand but they also have a couple of stinkers.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Probably every paint range has them, but Duncan's paints are very consistent. Reviewing the new Xpress Colors and Game Colors from Vallejo soon on this channel!

[@sebastianrubio928]

Paints like these need to be sold in stores to be viable. They're great from what I hear, but they're not simple to get. It's not an issue or refusing to buy online, it's just way nicer to be able to go to a shop and check yourself and see which paints you want, that's why for now, I'll stick to vallejo.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Yeah, I agree I really love to go to a brick & mortar store and have the paints in hand to compare them. They're already available at Wayland Games and Firestorm Games, and Element Games just stocked them, too. Hopefully they find their way into many other FLGS as well, but shelf space is limited, and there are already so many paint brands out there.

[@Titus_Vespasianus]

god job brother...

[@CharlesBowden]

Pretty sure paying 3 dollars a bottle for Two Thing Coats from the Kickstarter is less than what I pay for GW paints around here. How much is the UK discount?

[@CrazedZombie]

Can you get these in a small starter set?

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Not yet unfortunately :/

[@MrBizteck]

Looks like Id be intrested in the mitillacs and washes. But the rest ... Ive no interest in wet blending ect. So I'll stick to my cheaper paints.

[@Gumlass1]

In Australia, they are cheaper than Citadel. For some reason GW applies crazy markup in Aus.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Ah no... but then that would make them even more attractive. Where are they available in Aus?

[@Gumlass1]

@@stahly_taleofpainters I got mine from the Kickstarter, but a couple of smaller hobby stores are taking pre-orders. They are not cheap, but Citadel prices are out of control. $7 for a regular paint, $11.50 for contrast. By comparison, Vallejo is $4.99.

[@shanegarvey3263]

@@Gumlass1 do you have a link to any stores selling them? I can't find them anywhere in Australia

[@tonywest2803]

It's a real shame they're so expensive, I'm not going to spend more than Citadel paints which do the same thing just not quite as well. I hope they can bring the price down in time.

[@redgreen09]

well a look in to or if out and bump in to em and not nuts price will pick em up good re vew like it see as you do more

[@travislankford9254]

Only Duncan could "rebrand" Citadel paints and make people pay even more for them. Blows my mind the Kickstarter raised as much as it did with the price point along with market saturation. I guess sometimes marketing trumps everything else *shrugs* It's nice to see the product is high quality, at least.

[@CawlMeBelisarius]

At least with the Kickstarter the price was like 3€ per paint so average. The retail price is to high for my taste

[@castorfields9584]

The Kickstart price was much more reasonable

[@CGSudio]

So, I just got kicked from the new Wave 2 kickstarter for criticizing the way they handled Tax. There was a small notice at the very bottom of the campaign. They did not apply tax when you pledged, instead they added 20% when you went to the backer portal and were paying for postage. I, as well as many others, were not happy about this and expressed our displeasure in the comments. Instead of talking to me and expaining or sorting the problem. They just fully kicked me from the campaign. This is terrible behaviour from this company. I will never buy these paints again.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

:(

[@Ryuondo]

I suspect I'll have to buy TTC metalics. Getting tired of GW's.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

GW has a few good ones, but they need a lot of shaking for sure.

[@HunterEste]

Due to the superior pigmentation you end up using ALOT less of the TTC paints than you do of any other brand. The pricing complain is negligible as you get MUCH more bang for your buck from these paints.

[@Sarkhamy]

I think it's pretty inexcusable for modern paint ranges to launch with only Caucasian skin tones. Frickin makeup is better at providing skin tones than we are. It's my biggest gripe for the new game color range as well. Also the price of this range is kinda insane. You could argue it's small batches or something but that still is pretty inexcusable. Proacryl launched as a new small brand and they were cheaper per ml than GW. We need either more paint in the bottle or the price to go down and i don't forsee either.

[@Revan9991]

"Inexcusable" lol the entitlement. Nobody owes you an explanation.

[@juble7086]

Thing is, when you strip away all of the silly names from miniature paint ranges, they're all just colours. In other words, your Elf flesh paint from GW doesn't necessarily mean that the paint is only applicable to flesh, and likewise, your darker browner tones which are named after bark, hide etc are not only for those materials (they can be used for skin tones too!) Same for reds, purples, or anything! It's only the made up names that give us the impression that they're only tailored to a specific ethnicity.

[@echoechoecho7142]

Oh yay. An enraged, woke, SJW entered the chat. Always a good time. REEEE!

[@Sarkhamy]

@@echoechoecho7142 Pff your the only one that's reeing here, bud. I dunno where you thought I was "enraged" I'm just tired of seeing the same cadian fleshtone bottled by 134 different companies as the only skin option. It's dumb and its unrealistic AF. If you were talking about my gripe about the price then I've yet to hear a compelling reason why we are charging more money for a GW knockoff range then GW paints themselves. But its your money if you wanna waste it there ig.

[@Sarkhamy]

​@@Revan9991 "owes me an explanation" I'm not asking for an explanation I'm saying this price range is bad. Why am I paying more money for the knockoff brand then the original? Some dude's face is on the bottle? I'm good.

[@casspirmk6338]

Definitely the most advanced hobbyists would find new expensive paint matches their needs, but for the most wide array of already existing makers has no room for new coming dark horse

[@theenigmaticgamer]

Thank you for another in depth review. Unfortunately I think the price of Duncan’s range is simply too high. I can afford it, but I just won’t pay it.

[@jevonp]

you might miss this but on onlygames for the next few days 30% sale, the paints are 3.5$

[@Sandmann1193]

Honestly, the price is not really more expensive than citadel (at least around here), paint comes with a good bottle and a mixing ball in it which is a huge plus and the paints look good and behave good. It's also available basically everywhere. At least for me, the colors that match what colors I need I always get them from Duncan now.

[@brentlacey5]

Price is cheaper than citadel where I am and they seem to be getting cheaper since more and more stores are carrying them.

[@Sandmann1193]

@@brentlacey5 yes I ordered some a week ago since my first batch went nearly empty and they are cheaper than citadel now.

[@lostnfound1086]

My biggest problem is you could do EXACTLY the same thing with base and highlight and mixing midtones. That would save 33% right there. Hard pass. Sorry duncan, but not enough value there.

[@stahly_taleofpainters]

Well, then why don't you buy just the base and highlight colours if you don't need the midtones? I like those midtones ;)

[@lostnfound1086]

@@stahly_taleofpainters Yes, I'm only speaking of the value of the kickstarters. I will for sure give them a spin when they reach my flgs

[@turbulenttimes3749]

these paints will be gone in two to four years....just saying

[@ARandomPerson66]

It is inexcusable for any brand to be more expensive than GW. Hard pass.

[@Vortid]

It is a massive difference with a large company and a really small one like Two thin coats. Look at almost any type of business - small businesses just tend to have to charge more for their product, and still make less profit than the large companies. If you like Duncan and his academy, then supporting that by paying a little extra for pretty good paints is not the end of the world.

[@ARandomPerson66]

@@Vortid When everyone says the hobby is already overpriced as fuck... i doubt we have that luxury.

[@jazzeejax5816]

They are half the price of gw???

[@ARandomPerson66]

@@jazzeejax5816 Huh. No.

[@jazzeejax5816]

@@ARandomPerson66 maths

[@neiljames4126]

To me is a cash grab completely.

[@Mekol]

really soy