I-Team: Homeowners Vote Out Their HOA President

[@russell5078084]

probably because he's been embezzling money, if he turns over the books, he'll probably go to jail.

[@howard494]

you sir, are correct me thinks. The second they have the books, he's doing 25years.

[@williamalsup2444]

🎯

[@kevin_wb0poh]

I had the same problem in Phoenix. Our HOA was taken over by a proxy. The man who took over bilked the HOA out of $250,000. To make matters worse, this guy had contact with some very high level lawyers and had managed to get over $6,000,000 out of four HOAs. The Arizona Attorney General at the time had to abandon prosecuting the case because this guy put up so many writs and motions that it would have cost Arizona $12.000,000,000 to prosecute this guy to get back $6,000,000. Good news - they actually got him for felony domestic violence.

[@davidbrubeck6003]

You read my thoughts Russell, and I think anybody who is looking to buy a new home that has a HOA, I think it would be wise to talk with other home owners there to make sure that the HOA is a good one, and not a living nightmare to be apart of..

[@rjs1jd]

First thing I thought!!!! $$$$ money money money money money ............moooooney !

[@tygodine]

It's not hard to figure out he stealing the money

[@jerodx100]

TODD G n

[@cheiflee564]

Right I was gonna say that there's a reason he's not handing things over

[@sydhill8173]

TODD G basically

[@hagamapama]

The only reason he'd refuse to turn it over is that not only is he stealing the money, the money's gone. Like completely gone.

[@michaelmartin8337]

Easy enough to fix - Have the new board file a lien against his property.

[@inusberard5848]

Lein nothing. Sell the place right out from under the SOB.

[@gerble36]

If you don't want to go to jail for fraud, that action starts with a lein!! But people these days are crazy, maybe you like jail?

[@deeznutz3534]

You can't put a lien on his property or sell it if you can't prove he's behind on dues. Without the books you can't prove it. I think he's paying himself a salary out of the dues. Because if he had a regular job they could of served court papers there.

[@karinaashmon]

Deeznutz ! He has been fired refuses to hand over keys books accounts. Lien on house inform court he's sell. Then one in control sell it to recoup what he's has embezzled.

[@bergmanoswell879]

They can’t prove he is behind on dues up to the point the new board took over. But after that point, if he truly believes that the new board isn’t legitimate, he won’t be paying those dues to the new board, and they will have proof that he has not paid his dues to them. That would allow them to fine him - if I owe you money and give that money to the panhandler at the freeway onramp instead of you, I have not paid the money I owe. He’s in the same boat. If he fails to pay the resulting fines to the current board, even if he does ‘collect’ the fines himself, that would allow a lien to be filed, and eventually lead to the seizure of his house for non-payment.

[@donkinzett3961]

As an Australian I can't get my head around why anyone would buy into an HOA controlled property?

[@StalkerWolf]

yeah, really... nothing like paying a mini mortgage on top of your regular one

[@SK22000]

Don Kinzett some people enjoy the way of pain lol

[@bill3641]

@@StalkerWolf Ah yes , an ever increasing mini mortgage .

[@mrluigi9923]

body corporate is the closest i can think of,i dont know about gated communities,aussies arent such arseholes,they have their stoush and move on.

[@deathmetalmachine]

I agree with you because it's like owning your own apartment at this point lol

[@slapadabass13]

I’ll be damned if I EVER bought a house where some strangers can tell me what I can and cannot do with my property

[@cptcosmo]

When shopping for property, look out not only for H.O.A.s but for C.C. & R.s (Conditions, Covenants, and Restrictions) too...

[@kajekage9410]

Virtually anywhere you buy a house there will be restrictions on what you can and cannot do with your property.

[@Kreepinsgirl]

@@kajekage9410 thats so different,not ecen the same,have u seen stories?complained about ramp for disable person, a shade for children to pkay in the summer,color of the house doesnt look right ,roof is not looking good and etc...

[@kajekage9410]

@@Kreepinsgirl coherent sentences are hard.

[@arcris1]

That is all willing good. However, you still have to answer to the county if you do not meet county standards.

[@baltsosser]

I've NEVER heard of an HOA bringing a community together.

[@YoYo-gt5iq]

A common enemy helps.

[@caelestigladii]

Then you are a youngling. It’s the community coming together that gives birth to the concept of an hoa. Development companies found out about hoas and abused this to milk new homeowners buying new houses.

[@SolidSonicTH]

@@YoYo-gt5iqThat's the ticket.

[@DakotaFord592]

Never!

[@immortalsofar5314]

The only time I did live in an HOA, it technically did when they were wasting money and everyone got together to sort them out. The board tried to limit to "one question each" and then claimed that "Do you agree..." as an opening statement constituted the speaker's question. Someone pointed out that, so long as there weren't any other questions at that time then it could go around "again" to the original questioner. That stunt destroyed their credibility and they were all thrown out.

[@teacfan1080]

None of this would happen if there wasn't an HOA to start with!

[@Southernswag8283]

Know how to make him step down? Quit treating him like he’s the President. Ignore him at all the meetings. Take away his power. If you listen to him it even give him a minute of your day, he’s winning the game.

[@ssansu]

This. People only have power when other people give it to them.

[@bennym1956]

Don't think he's showing to meetings or else they could give him the supeona !!!

[@libbylandscape3560]

I think he still has books, keys, accounting, etc that he’s refusing to turn over.

[@buffyranger6355]

I saw a picture of the president. All my questions are answered.

[@repobud1]

he was screwing around with the books now he's trying to buy time to fix it....

[@lekkki1]

He won't hand anything over because he has embezzled like mad and he doesn't want to go to prison. Simple as that. DO NOT BUY HOA HOMES people!

[@captrodgers4273]

they need to get rid of the HOA all togeather

[@gamingtrading7119]

I don't think you can get rid of an hoa can you?

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

They can vote to disband it.

[@brockcarson]

Not here. Our how has a baseline of responsibility it must execute

[@MR..181]

Have seen it done..but controlers seem to hinder the loss of the extorted, embezzled, and stolen funds. .

[@Real_Tim_S]

It's simple - the HOA's new board can have an attorney submit certified letters to the former board and CC the local police department and city attorney. If the old board fails to produce the books and funds which are property of the HOA, the new board can place a lean on the homes of the old board until the books are returned. If the books and funds are still not handed over to the new board, the new HOA board sells the homes to recover the losses - and the PD has arrest warrants issued for felony theft/embezzlement ("conversion" in Georgia). The books and funds were never the property of the board members, but rather the HOA. A crime has been committed here, and the police should be involved by this point. If local PD are unwilling to pursue these former board members, county or state police are always available.

[@YoYo-gt5iq]

When you dont want to hand over the books, the answer is usually in the books.

[@nunya3163]

"Who's running the community?" You should not need anyone to run your community.

[@Mathewmartialart]

4 years later, any update

[@USVIsteve]

You know that guy is embezzling

[@rocketman697]

Next step should be to talk to the DA about charging him with misapropration of the HOA funds, and issue a warrant for his arrest.

[@rolloverriderpgr]

Up date!!! Did they ever find the worm?

[@darrellpickering8535]

In my experience anyone going to that much trouble to stay in control is hiding criminal activity.

[@gordonramsay7854]

"HOA brings communities together." Well he's technically right. Together against him.

[@Joshpower57]

That was my thought. The only time ive seen an hoa bring people together, its to remove the hoa. Its like saying an abusive company getting sued by its employees brought them together 😂😂😂

[@rodneyperry6942]

Why i won't ever belong to an HOA. They charge to be there, and have more control over the property that you own, than YOU do. It's like having to pay the mortgage on the apartment you are renting.

[@traceystock7352]

Buying a home in an HOA is like walking into a bar and instantly becoming business partners with everyone in the place.

[@RonSafreed]

Yeah, business with a bunch of drunks & alcoholics & we know how that will work out, 100% failure!!

[@bennym1956]

It's worse then that. You get told whether you can drink a beer or not !!

[@Joshpower57]

The bartender: youre drinking tequila tonight. Me: can i get a beer? The bartender: you can submit a request and we'll vote on it at the next board meeting

[@marknewton6984]

Including the bartender...

[@deidrabrey4043]

The guy on the stool next to you decides he wants to run a committee on who sits at the bar versus stands in the back, but his rn for office is cut short when he is found to have peed on the floor in the mens room, and another one decides who gets to select the music. And the bartender works behind the scenes with the richest person in the place to decide what upgrades to the bar will take place then have a meeting no one can attend because it's at 2PM on Monday.

[@billchambersmarquez1964]

He won't step down is because he embezzed the money and hes trying to avoid going to jail!!!!!!

[@PINEAPPLEKELLY3]

I requested review of documents and they are not showing it to anyone.

[@shoholapa6863]

I'm not even IN the HOA that is suing me for "back dues" of $5,400. They keep losing in court so they just keep appealing.

[@BlackRose85789]

HAHAHAHA exactly what do they think is going to happen? The courts will be dumb to rule in favor of them?

[@wildandliving]

Shohola PA why not sue them for harassment

[@drive2160]

Shohola PA can’t you counter sue them for emotional stress over constant harassment. Make sure that if you can’t get the entirety of HOA there sued, then at least the person in charge. Maybe you can do that? Call your lawyer

[@turbo7215]

Next time counter sue for harassment and loss of enjoyment with evidence of not belonging to HOA. Get a judgment against the HOA. If the HOA doesn't pay up then place a lien against HOA funds and common property. If you get this far you can have fun with the HOA.

[@Machouseproductions]

Sounds like vexatious litigation to me.

[@Milesco]

A couple things: First, if personal service of a lawsuit can't be done after several attempts, the law provides for other methods of service. So hiding from the process server might delay things a bit, but not forever. The lawsuit *_will_* eventually go forward. Second, this HOA has some serious organizational deficiencies if they have allowed one individual to single-handedly control all the keys to the kingdom. Bank accounts, business records, books...even the literal keys themselves! You *_never_* give one person unlimited exclusive access like that. No checks and balances. What were they thinking?

[@CheshireCad]

Probably one of the reasons people were fed up with the HOA, was because of that obvious concentration of power. It was likely impossible to notice, before it was too late.

[@albertmotyka2819]

Totally agree that you don't give one person exclusive access. We have a 5 person board and we all have access to the banking and books. If something has to get paid or anything is needed for the community we have 2 signatures required.

[@joshuahudson2170]

In this case a default judgement is useless. :(

[@jp-ty1vd]

I agree but if all members of the board are corrupt.... I have seen videos of entire boards being arrested for fraud, theft etc.

[@vulcan2882]

I hope these people went after that guy with a warrent for his arrest for not turning over those documents and funds.

[@sct4040]

This happens often, in co-op apartments too. Get a judge to past an injunction. The residents are allowed to elect a new board anytime as long as they have the proxy.

[@ewetoob6369]

All about the money and the ability to tell other people what to do. Just a micro version of the federal government and shows why that is all messed up as well.

[@villedocvalle]

Pretty much.

[@joedennehy386]

Change the locks, go to the bank, get new signatories, take posession of the office. Simple stuff. You dont need him. You are the legal board

[@davids8048]

Audit the bank accounts and financial records and you might find out why he won’t leave.

[@PINEAPPLEKELLY3]

Yup I’m going through foreclosure right now due to fraud charges on my leisure that was placed by the secretary of the board

[@rickuyeda4818]

Get your State Attorney General to investigate. Sounds like embezzlement.

[@onrr1726]

simple solution stop paying the fees desolve the HOA and if you like living under HOA bullshit and crimnals that run it then reorganize and for a new one. chances are the guy embezzled all the money which is why he won't turn over the books.

[@lmcg9103]

Don't pay your HOA fees and open up a new account. Change the locks...ect getter done

[@lql1094]

But all the back money he has stolen? He needs to be imprisoned.

[@kenrivers9757]

His ass going strait ti prison when they go over the books..thats why he dont want to leave lol!

[@sheilawhite9550]

He's a crook or he needs to hand everything leave the position. Probably the whole neighborhood doesn't sound like he's wanted. So go

[@user-neo71665]

I've never seen a HOA bring anybody together unless it was against them.

[@purrrrson]

Probably because funds have gone 'missing' so he's scrambling!! HOA's are a joke, in most cases!!

[@haveahappyday1749]

He isnt handing anything over because he knows he will be found out! BUSTED lol

[@billsmith1486]

Guy is backing himself into a very tight hole. Sooner or later a search warrant may be issued to enter his house to get the requested items and maybe a warrant for his arrest. It would be nice to see this jerk in jail for a couple of years. You know it is coming where they find out he has been using the HOA funds for his own benefits.

[@reh3884]

Never buy a house in an HOA.

[@marknewton6984]

Don't worry 😮!

[@MalcolmLeeKennedy]

I have scoured the Internet to see how this story ends but this video is the latest update I can find. I plan on contacting the I-Team.

[@timelessmusicfamilymusic9175]

When an HOA treats individual's like an employee instead of a tenant, you know your complex is in trouble.

[@marknewton6984]

Does the HOA pay my mortgage? Leave me alone! 😎

[@iDontShareMyData]

Nice follow-up on this story FOX 5 Atlanta. OH WAIT, there HASN'T BEN ANY FOLLOW-UP! ....my bad.

[@dannytheman1313]

He doesn't want them to ever see the books because once he does they'll see all the stuff he spent the money on assuming it didn't all go into his pocket.

[@karagregory69]

Can't they get a court order to seize the bank account and get a printout of transactions

[@martymahem236]

Sounds like that guy just doesn't want anyone to see what he's been up to with the homeowner's money all this time.

[@jaimistefani8271]

He's not giving up anything because he's dirty. He knows it, he just doesn't want anyone else to because it means jail time for him.

[@GaynNovi]

I used to live in Austell, have friends in this community that still have issues. I would make them come to my house because this HOA used to have 200 rules just for guest parking and parking overnight.

[@RonSafreed]

Communist tyrranny on a local level & ole Kim Jung Whatever in North Korea is grinning ear to ear!!

[@ChakatNightspark]

Couldnt you just withhold the HOA due at this point. Have the People put each Months HOA due aside until the issue(s) is Resolved

[@adventureseeker9800]

He's hiding the fact that the money he's in charge of is probably gone! He could just hand it over and walk away but he won't because he's trying to DELAY!! What's he hiding?

[@annatrog56]

Just another reason I made sure to not purchase my home in a neighborhood with an HOA. They are evil.

[@kerrymorton2640]

Maybe they should file criminal charges against the board president that way the Sherriff could get a warrant to search his house for the HOA's property,

[@susanrand512]

I found my dream house years ago it was in a neighborhood with an HOA, fired my realtor too, told that silly woman didn't want to live in a HOA neighborhood 😑 😒. They should file a million dollar mechanical lien against his property, bet that will smoke him out.

[@marknewton6984]

Good for you! 😎

[@perfectbrunnetdoll]

me: whats the new word for the day elmo? elmo: embezzlement

[@blqeddie2946]

So I'm watching this 4 years after the fact.... Do you think the Donald saw it and decided "hey, that's not a bad idea 💡" 😂 😂 🇮🇹

[@shaunaellis6619]

👍😂

[@ladydruyear]

was there any out come from this?

[@kristend344]

They need an audit of the books.

[@sayitaintso7544]

He is surely going to jail. Those missing funds amount to stealing. No telling what else he has done but I hope he likes wearing orange.

[@joemama6906]

Generally the Treasurer, not the President, Controls the funds.

[@kelleymanning1137]

Obviously he is scamming money...that's why he wont give up the job.

[@markpettit5919]

The way you get the books is you get a search warrant to retrieve the books from everyone of his known legal residences. Once you get the books, if he has unlawfully withdrawn money from the HOA then file a lien for the money he stole, and foreclose on his house. How to serve him, get a Search Warrant approved to get his GPS location on his cell phone activated by the Police so they can locate him and serve him a search warrant because he is intentionally avoiding being served (i.e. obstructing justice).

[@loveye]

They need to contact the IRS and have the auditors come down there to investigate all the book records.....he is hiding something obviously....where is the bookkeeper to give track of all expense and assets

[@havok9001]

has he been found & also he sure be jailed

[@UrFavSoundTech]

@2:44 the graphic which says who is on the board. Very frustrating.

[@samsignorelli]

I suppose there's no way to serve by publication in Georgia? This is 3 years old...how'd it turn out?

[@33ladyRAM]

I am on a HOA board and no way any board members should have access to the funds! They only approve invoices. Where is the management team who should have all that information.

[@ladylee4356]

- Round up votes from all the homeowners, - File an Community et.al. Emergency Motion with the State Civil Division. www.hg.org/homeowners-association.html - Motion the Court for Emergency Injunction and Relief to access locked box under court order and either hire a locksmith or drill the lock open. - Find a replacement to fill his position by community vote.

[@Joshpower57]

"Homeowner associations often bring people together" Said no one who lives in an HOA

[@danrodrigues3531]

I'm curious to know if there is any update to this story...

[@ochb]

He DON'T wanna leave that MONEY!

[@davidupton9354]

He's gotten used to the extra money that he has control over! Anyone care to bet that he has no idea where the money is? He has a Napollion complex and isn't about to give that money up!

[@jodydennis6119]

Had you had a conclusion to this story I would have subscribed to your channel but based on this I will only find it aggravating

[@amsmith123]

It seems the only reason he won't resign is...maybe he has something to hide. HOA's usually have a Secretary & Treasurer who also keeps records so where are they in all of this?

[@larrygerard9814]

Stop paying fees to old hoa. Set up a new account.

[@flashstudiosguy]

Writ should be served in his absence, much easier for all in involved against him; he's not stopping Court Bailiffs from entering his home and place of work to search for the documents and to stop them from taking collateral to force him to turn over the documents. I'd also freeze his access to the Association Accounts and request that the Bank calls Police, should he contact them, either in person or via the phone, regarding the issue.

[@bwold9138]

So what ended up happening?

[@aurktman1106]

Any update?

[@inusberard5848]

You know...if he's withholding that information couldn't they request a court order to produce the records? Then if he refuses issue a bench warrant on charges of contempt of court.

[@robertphillips6296]

Sounds like he might be hiding some financial wrong doing?

[@jameshaynie4570]

You mention HOA benefits, in my experience, the miseries that go along with an HOA far exceed any minute amount of benefits.

[@AngusT.McCraken]

We just recently purchased a home. While we were house hunting found a few that were perfect. Wife fell in love with one especially. Talked her out if it because it was in an HOA. Found one that met all our needs. Needs a little cosmetic work here and there to make it our “dream home” but at least we don’t have to listen to anyone else telling us what we can and can’t do with our own property. I will never live in an HOA.

[@marknewton6984]

​@@AngusT.McCrakenGood move!

[@amirbayandaumar8991]

are all states have HOA?

[@deborahblackvideoediting8697]

I think it's pretty clear why he doesn't want to step down and hand over those records. When I lived in my condo our, strata counsel (the Canadian equivalent of an HOA - most neighbourhoods with houses don't have them here, but every condominium building has them) kept impeccable records on all the money coming in, what it was spent on, and how much was in our contingency fund. I'm pretty sure that by law, they are required to do that. Every strata counsel has a treasurer who keeps the books and any condo unit owner can request to see them at any time. PLUS, we were given annual spreadsheets showing where all the money went to. Is it not the same in the USA? How can these HOAs spend money and not have to provide detailed records of where that money is going? I think it would prevent a lot of stress and heartache for homeowners, and make it much more difficult for HOA board members to commit fraud.

[@caelestigladii]

Home owners in the usa seldom have control over their association. It’s the development company that has control.

[@yank-tc8bz]

Any up date ?

[@aquaticasmr184]

How did it end???

[@Silky0627]

How do we get rid of hoa president?? Please reply

[@hermanmars1]

Now we are living in 2021, how did this end??

[@kasijj06]

so it is now 2021... whatever happened with all of this?

[@samanthanickson6478]

what's the outcome?

[@christinalw19]

Wow, in California, Boards vote on what gets paid, but we never would have access to funds!!! We have a management company that writes the checks and 2 members sign them.

[@stewardpropertyservicesinc505]

Thank you for starting out with a positive statement. Professional management goes a long way. This is a terrible situation for the community to have to endure.

[@yvonnebrode6899]

Any updates

[@davidezra9331]

I need the follow up story

[@rodentcafeteria]

I've never heard of an HOA bringing anyone together.

[@dttra566]

All of the homeowners should put a stop payment on all of their checks that they sent to the old HOA board. If that president has been voted out and is no longer valid, then the old board is no longer authorized to spend their money.

[@skliros9235]

Any updates?

[@gloryBE-o1w]

All the condo owners should be able to vote on how the maintenance money should be spent

[@evertonsimpson235]

That sounded like Trump. He not going down without a fight..

[@donnyko1539]

Your allowed to ask for there bank statements and any other statements and books records on there spending

[@garyhaines6335]

New accounts phase him out. Lein on house and personnel property, restraining order on him from going to the office

[@justinmcabee9903]

All of this for an HOA position? I mean I may be not in the loop or something but does that hold a lot of power? Why is this man refusing to let go