I tested the first UK LEGAL THROTTLE folding electric bike...

[@msagoo29]

These throttle bikes are appealing to me as someone with MS and leg weakness.

[@1832ec]

Probably could help you gradually build strength as well

[@chrisliddiard725]

Agreed. It's great for older riders, and starting in traffic. Starting on PAS pedal assist mode requires the same effort as a regular bike, and then it suddenly jumps into life as the motor kicks in.

[@misspiggy9867]

I have the mark 1 with throttle and I love it. Unfortunately, health problems limit my ability to pedal, so a legal throttle is fantastic for me. I'm not as strong as Eilis, so 19kg is hard work for me to lift, but I'm still thrilled with my bike.

[@pedibal]

Thats great to hear

[@frigbychilwether]

HI, it's good that it's an option but it's a ludicrous system. Surely a manufacturer(especially if based in UK or Europe) should be able to certify each model once and then have it apply to all sold. Sure someone could mod it to make it go faster but then cars are certified once and most can go faster than the speed limit(and people can do things to them after sale to break law).

[@shahan1465]

struggles in 10 degree climb with 65kg rider lol

[@bonzobanana1]

We adopted the ridiculous EU regulations and then realised it was excluding a huge amount of people who would benefit from an ebike so made this special rule. Before we adopted the awful EU legislation the UK legally sold twist and go ebikes and those are still legal to ride today. Also the department for transport has allowed ebike kits to have twist and go throttles without this legal procedure. Of course any ebike with a throttle is legal as long as you have to pedal to enable the throttle even if you just ghost pedal and don't do any real work pedalling. It's just a complete farce to be honest. We should never have adopted the EU legislation it was really only setup to benefit European manufacturers and make it difficult for Chinese manufacturers.

[@davidharle952]

I bought the first model of the Navigata CITe, I wish it had the puncture resist tyres and sprung seat because I have had it on some really rough tracks round here in the Lake District, some that are really very rough with loose stones, and one was quite steep but used the throttle only option without any problems. I needed the throttle version due to health problems to get me places I couldn't normally get to, I have a drone channel on YT and this bike has allowed me to get some amazing videos that I wouldn't have been able to get without it, I must admit it doesn't disappoint. I know it's not what they were designed for but I recommend them to anyone with health problems that have difficulty peddling a normal bike. And it folds really nice and fits into the boot. In the spring I will pop it into Halfords and get a couple of puncture resit tyres.

[@jimwu8532]

Congrats on getting throttle e-bikes! US/CAN already enjoying for years legally!

[@bonzobanana1]

The UK did until we adopted the terrible EU legislation. We had twist and go ebikes legally sold up until 2017 and those are still legal to ride today.

[@megapangolin1093]

Eilis! You have cracked it with this legal throttle wonder, a bike for everyone, old, young, fit, or not. Nice looking thing and great features, seat, guards, rack, lights (no bell?). A real step in the direction that all bikes should be heading. Brilliant cascade of sharp outfits, added a lot of visual interest to the whole vid. Thanks, this was refreshing and enjoyable.

[@pedibal]

Great positive feedback (FYR Bell is located on the rear brake lever)

[@megapangolin1093]

@@pedibal Haha, thanks for the personal response, very impressed with the bell reassurance.. You really are thinking beyond your peers when it comes to the reality of bike ownership. I am very impressed, and thank you for bringing sense to cycling.

[@iainamurray]

I got the E Cruiza after seeing your vid because my daughter has knee issues and can’t really pedal for very long. Couple of teething issues, but great company to deal with and we’ve done getting on for 800 miles since May between us.

[@pedibal]

Fantastic Ian

[@mark9idea886]

Very good suspension system on the seat, it was already used on some old bicycles and is now being revived. excellent

[@simonsaysrewind]

The new mirider 24 has seat suspension too. 😉 I wondered if this could make this area weaker?

[@mark9idea886]

@@simonsaysrewind I don't think it will affect anything, the issue is that it is something apparently new and innovative, as long as the weight limit is not exceeded, everything will be fine.

[@klackon1]

West Midlands and Chiltern Railways are two companies that do not allow electric bikes on their stations or trains. Both make regular Tannoy announcements to that effect.

[@JulianArthurs]

Probably due to fire risks, especially if train routes have tunnels. Does TfL allow ebikes on the tube?

[@benpar8120]

@@JulianArthurs Yes I've seen plenty of fat tyre FOLDING electric bikes coming out of Underground in London

[@mm3nrx]

No problems with Northern or Pennine trains. Leicester was fine also, as I went there last June with my e-bike.

[@jonevansauthor]

@@JulianArthurs it's not really though, is it? The things are still mostly diesel, they used to allow smoking which they didn't ban for fire risk, and electric bikes are not a fire risk. You'd be allowed on board with a cigarette lighter and matches. What it is is completely unjustified paranoia about e-bikes and possibly a bit of envy or it's an excuse for them to ban at least some bikes so that they don't have to deal with complaints about the filthy cyclists taking up space on their inadequately designed trains that should always have had dedicated carriages for that express purpose. Their motivation is not to be good, or passenger safety.

[@anthonydyer3939]

Scotrail allow e-bikes, but “micro devices” such as e-scooters are banned. The reasoning on their website: “This policy does not apply to personal mobility devices, powered wheelchairs and power assisted bicycles or e-bikes, which are regulated by UK legislation and British Standards.”

[@agodh4562]

If I hadn't already got this bike, I would be ordering it this minute. I have watched a lot of Electroheads reviews about various e-folders (thanks! - helpful) and then did my own research and ended up with Navigata Cite. "Love it" is an understatement, it is so well thought-out e-bike, even if mine is only MK1 version with a throttle. I am about to use it for my commute in London. My real life range has been around 45km in PAS level 3 with a bit of throttle on average, no massive hills but not flat either, and up to 55km when keeping it strictly to PAS 1-2 level. The battery 9.6AH is the same as ADO air 20 I believe, which Ellis also did a review on and gave real life range too (believe it was ~51km on high assist and ~60km on flattish assist, so this should be similar). In any case, Navigata Cite has the benefit of a throttle and 7 gears versus belt drive, I need this in the hilly parts of London. The customer service has been second to none. I had questions after the purchase and Pedibal answered everything in detail and with the patience. I am not associated with Pedibal in any way, I am simply one very happy customer.

[@Madonsteamrailways]

It looks much more comfortable than the Axon!! But my Axon is a base model.

[@Daytonafox1]

I love this in white and those wheels are the selling point for me!!!

[@pedibal]

Fantastic!

[@benpar8120]

IMHO All these folding ebikes should be under the £1,000 mark so that they qualify for the " Ride to Work" Scheme. Simple

[@rayphot]

It depends on your employer and what scheme they use as there are quite a few different ones. I bought a GoCycle G4 as my limit was £4k. My employer uses the Halfords Cycle2Work scheme.

[@benpar8120]

@@rayphot Oh, I didn't know there were more than one scheme !!!

[@martingeyette6395]

Eilis, looking at your review, but if I'm being honest, there is a bit of a distraction, your reviews are always on point, so I should be good🤔❤️

[@raymondo162]

distraction? you want to be a furry cleavage mic, too . . . . . ??

[@theunknownunknowns256]

Hey Eilis, episode idea. Open All Hours Granville delivery bike. They have electric milk delivery on that TV show, Granville needs electric assistance, too!

[@kevinclark4165]

Great video. This looks like a very comfortable E-bike, but I'm after one with at least 40 mile range! I know there are others with long range but not a legal throttle!

[@pedibal]

Great to hear such positive comments, we have had feedback from customers who by riding the bikes a little more conservatively managing greater ranges closer to the 40miles from the 9.6Ah battery as Eilis eluded to her 'real life range' test did utilise level 5 and throttle which is still a reasonable result

[@kevinclark4165]

@pedibal thanks for your response. Yes it is good and I'm sure you can get more range if you're more careful. Thanks

[@paulgifford2411]

Expensive when you add the price of the throttle and certification. But for those unable to pedal it's a good buy.

[@rhiantaylor3446]

I have 3 ebikes made before 2016 with legal throttles (1 has a twist throttle).

[@Supersyncopation]

Meanwhile the roads are full of delivery riders doing 30mph on their illegal bikes and the police don't seem to care at all

[@crofty13001]

Do you want your deliveroo food hot or not? 😂

[@raymondo162]

@@crofty13001 fair point

[@russellprout723]

I watch a number of delivery rider videos and can say the Police do some delivery rider bike checks. Perhaps not enough to satisfy you but then we could take them away from dealing all the other things people wanted Policed.

[@jonevansauthor]

@@russellprout723 what.... both of them? (as in, there's only two policemen to investigate or deal with crimes e.g. we should employ more and deal with more crimes)

[@russellprout723]

@jonevansauthor you could employ more. Just increase everybody's income tax

[@loneranger5928]

Ellis, good review 👍 I can't understand why manufacturers can't certify their bikes that they meet the legal requirements

[@Jack_Warner]

I was watching a guy from the US, who owns a bike shop. He said that many bike shops are reluctant to repair eBikes, because of the parts availability. apparently it's difficult to get spares from China, and no one in the US stocks the spares, so I assume that goes for the UK too.

[@MisterAshbrook]

Aside from the display and haptic feedback, isn’t this just the same design as a lot of folding ebikes? Carrera Crosscity comes to mind, as do several other similar models.

[@lynsmith1096]

Great review on the Navigata. I have had mine for a good while and love it.

[@pedibal]

Good to hear Lyn :)

[@domramsey]

This really does feel like the idea solution for my mobility problems, but it's just so far out of my price range, especially with all the extras.

[@Madonsteamrailways]

It looks very much like my Axon folding electric bike!! Very much more attractive.

[@benpar8120]

Is your Axon bike any good? How much did it cost & what's the range? Would you recommend buying one?

[@Madonsteamrailways]

@ The Axon bike is a brilliant piece of kit that has a maximum speed of 15.5 mph with a range of 18 miles.

[@peterj9716]

I would love to ride that bike.

[@kenmay1572]

I saw nothing wrong with "twist and go" up to 15mph, but now one can only have "pedal assist" up to 15mph. Unless the bike is older than the change in rules. Which is why I bought an older bike.

[@humza890]

On the topic of boots, the ADO air 20 can fit inside a Tesla model 3 boot

[@bromptinowner763]

I have the Air 20, just need the Tesla to go with it

[@chrisliddiard725]

I prefer a key instead of that red button to turn on/off the power.. That bike is so light someone could run off with it. The fact that it has no keys means they could just press that button and ride off into the sunset. Btw, Great way to drain the battery. Hill climbs on throttle only.

[@agodh4562]

Or you could take out the battery.

[@dualcrocadile]

So jealous of that microphone

[@simonblurton8009]

I really like this bike. It hits a gap in the market without the throttle. Will the throttle have a walk assist without getting it certified?

[@pedibal]

Thanks for your interest yes the bike does have walk assist on the Pedal assist and Throttle option :)

[@user-si8zf9hy1b]

I'm just here for the sights.

[@noorlancer]

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[@raymondo162]

@@noorlancer furry bra mic ?

[@heeeeeresrossy]

Too tall for me

[@jojogizmo9244]

200 Quid extra for a throttle?!? You're avin fackin larf aintcha?!?

[@raymondo162]

rightole steffi graf

[@andystreet1479]

I'm 6 ft 5 and looking to buy a e bike with fat tyres what would you suggest I take a look at and probably look to test

[@jimmyfang9339]

Well then, I personally think, the electric scooter should be legalized too, as the only difference between an electric folding bike with full throttle and and an electric scooter is the saddle. We need someone who can speak to the goverment and that's you Eilis

[@tz6414]

It’s the tiny wheels on scooters, one pothole and you are under a bus.

[@jonevansauthor]

@@tz6414 great. Fair point. So just legalise them as long as they have 20" wheels, which scooters can have. I have no issue buying a larger wheel diameter one, or a fat tyre larger wheel one. I just want the thing to be legal so I can use one.

[@jonevansauthor]

Also Reeves promised a massive £500 million to fix all our potholes so surely there won't be such problems soon? Hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha. The trick is we already have a budget for that, it's not enough, and she didn't say, 'Properly repave the roads because filling in potholes is a waste of time' so she's not serious about road transport or the economy.

[@Madonsteamrailways]

And which is the best lock for an electric bicycle? I want to use it for going shopping and generally getting around!!

[@rayphot]

I use a Litelok Core Plus. It's an expensive lock and quite heavy, but I carry it in a bag on the bike plus I can always wear it like a belt. It's sold secure diamond rated. I bought the bright orange one so its obvious to scumbags that the bike is secure.

[@jonevansauthor]

No lock can defeat an angle grinder. All they do is persuade a thief to target someone else's bike. You can see KZbin videos of thieves in London nicking bikes with grinders, and being filmed doing it by the public. They're completely brazen about it. Essentially, there's no way to protect your bicycle from theft, just make it slightly more time consuming to steal.

[@agodh4562]

I have Seatylock Mason 22cm, it is secure diamond. Not angle grinder proof but it has to be cut twice as the shackle is not circular.

[@Madonsteamrailways]

@ thank you for your recommendation of a lock!! I’m going to get the lock mentioned.

[@andrewbreeze746]

I have a electric bike now for 18 months with throttle it s a fat tyre so can I use that now with throttle yes or no

[@karlInSanDiego]

Can't find it online. Too many misspellings in the hipster name. Prefer spokes (which are suspension too) over cast wheels, but always great to see new options and to see bike company working to ensure throttle isn't a legal impediment. The future is two and three wheels, so let's grow up and ensure that micromobility isn't hamstrung with unrealistic constraints. UK, ditch the 15.5 mph limit. Unlock the power of sustainable mobility. EV cars don't pencil out in zero emissions, so we need to adapt quickly instead of perpetuating car dependency.

[@bromptinowner763]

Could have added the throttle as standard, not as an extra, would sell more i reckon

[@TheTravellingDrNeal]

This isn't the first UK legal folding throttle bike. Wisper have been selling one for years called the Wisper 806 full throttle.

[@sirhilsam]

At 14:46 a 'non powered' cyclist passes a panting Elish as if she's standing still😂😂

[@raymondo162]

leggers

[@jonevansauthor]

True and funny. although obviously he has full size wheels and isn't trying to speak into a KZbin video while moving ;)

[@iainamurray]

Eh? Are you watching a different video? Not panting and has clearly slowed down to talk to the camera and the fully Lycra guy on a road bike went past. So what?

[@sirhilsam]

@iainamurray ...meant as a joke. Luv Elish and her team and if she can take a joke...so should you🍺cheers

[@iainamurray]

@ I was under the impression that jokes were supposed to be funny in some way. I’ve clearly been doing it wrong. Carry on.

[@Simon_Rafferty]

This just shows how rediculous the EPAC Law is in the UK

[@robertpatrick3350]

A positive step but the limit should be 20mph. 15.5mph causes social isolation for people who need an e-bike when they ride with others, additionally 20mph matches the lower speed limit in many urban areas…. Passing someone doing 15.5mph in an urban environment is difficult and the time taken by a legal car pass creates additional hazards.

[@doom.monger]

so have the laws changed on this now ? as it was 3mph for throttle assist ?

[@iainamurray]

If you watch the video, it tells you.

[@Drew-Dastardly]

The throttle looks just the same as a binary on/off switch to me. Nothing at all like a genuine throttle. Why are these banned anyway?

[@agodh4562]

There is a genuine twist and go throttle on the right handlebar

[@JulianArthurs]

You know its November right? Must be freezing.

[@Saxtoo]

And all the trees are evergreens!! 😂

[@JulianArthurs]

@@Saxtoo oh right. Cant say I was that observant, was distracted. Ok filmed earlier in year.

[@bromptinowner763]

I just don't fancy riding my bike in these colder months

[@gregwhitaker438]

Not the first folding electric bike to be legally offered with a throttle… Wisper has offered it as an option for years.

[@JohnyTechReview]

damn that's a lot of rules and laws and for a measly 200 poundsss they can clear the hurdle for you! how is this safe for anybody lol

[@eBoard3R]

🤙🏽⚡️🤟🏽⚡️👌🏽

[@PrototypePrjs]

And the question is what is an illegal throttle folding bike?

[@iainamurray]

A bike with a throttle that exceeds 15.5mph and a motor with more than 250w

[@gregwhitaker438]

One which hasn’t been certified by DVSA and/or doesn’t meet the requirements. Every bike sold with a throttle has to be individually inspected, which is mad but there we are…

[@NWforager]

had that bike with a bbs02 mid drive motor . TOO much torque .

[@simondimps1002]

looking so nice xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wow fit

[@bena3turbo]

If they can make this bike legal with a throttle then why can't they do this for e scooters?

[@iainamurray]

Because it’s assessed and tested to pass to EPAC regulation. Electronic Pedal Assist Cycle. A scooter doesn’t have pedals.

[@StupotTaylor]

There’s a bike in this video apparently.

[@raymondo162]

seems like a nice girl to me .................??

[@snakedoctor5482]

£200 extra for a throttle. thats stupid. should be included in the price of the bike as expensive as it is

[@iainamurray]

It’s not for the throttle. It’s for them to take a bike with a throttle to the DVSA and pay to get it approved so that it can be used legally on UK roads. Did you even watch the video.

[@jonevansauthor]

It's sensible to offer this service, until the Labour party decide if they're ever going to do anything useful and make scooters and throttle e-bikes legal.

[@jonevansauthor]

They aren't going to do this btw, that would involved intelligence and their version of a 'sovereign wealth fund' and 'energy company' is absolutely pathetic. They don't have the intelligence of a wombat and our best hope is that they don't enact their version of Project 2025 or start invading countries and torturing people again like they did last time. I have zero confidence that they'll legalise e-scooters, because they'll imagine in their fevered PPE dreams that old people will get run over by them.

[@istvanporter8065]

Second

[@raymondo162]

don't beat yesen up about it !! it's true: a miss is as good as a mile, but you know..............

[@alvitahmid]

Hello mam Are you looking for a professional youtube thumbnail designer ? thanks

[@heeeeeresrossy]

Too expensive for what it is.

[@fud1376]

What a cheaply made piece of rubbish...Can't see that lasting long in UK weather...Ha!!

[@jonevansauthor]

I'll definitely be trusting the opinion of someone who chose 'fear uncertainty and doubt' as their username. You don't sound like a propagandist for Shell and BP at all.