I Tore My Knee At A New Gym

[@shaneshapiro8528]

First off I just wanna apologize for the idiot jumping on your knee like that. We don’t teach that bullshit at syndicate and he’s never in class anyways. Thank you for the great round bro and this video was an awesome break down 🙌🏻👊🏻

[@TylerSpangler]

Thanks for having me! You annihilated me while chewing gum, but I loved the place!

[@shaneshapiro8528]

@@TylerSpangler you’re welcome back anytime my man. I promise that idiot won’t be on the mats.

[@submissionsummit]

@@JT-oc2dn Medically speaking. It looked like the takedown could’ve effected Tyler’s ACL the most. Which in most part, you can still continue to grapple w/o. Look into how Spencer Lee won a NATIONAL TITLE with NO ACLS. Nicky Ryan also torn his acl 3 times.

[@watchandlearnbjj]

Dealing with an acl issue now, been grappling almost 20 years, it comes and goes, recently had two rolling guys crash into my knee. Noones fault I guess, sh1t happens. I can't recommend bullet proofing your knees with targeted exercises and stretching allot for longevity

[@KadeyBenham]

Why would you call the guy an idiot all comes down to coaches as if he would have done it if someone had explained to him that you can’t do it and why, Jedi literally does a similar move at the start so clearly students are getting around the gym pulling these acts

[@jshapbjj]

Dude I’m so sorry he went for that stupid take down on you in class! That’s one of the Muaythai/amateur MMA fighters and he’s never in our class to know and understand the rules and why the rules are in place otherwise that would’ve never happened. I wasn’t even aware it happened to watching this video. Thank you for coming in though and awesome breakdowns of the rolls! I’d love a roll with you next time but I’m glad you got a round in with my brother at the end. Thanks Tyler!

[@TylerSpangler]

Thanks for having me! Was fun to flow roll with you

[@thatkindofguy234]

wtf, all beginners should be taught that's not an acceptable takedown in rolling, like the equivalent of throwing elbows in a friendly MMA spar

[@TylerSpangler]

Caught me by surprise for sure!

[@deputyjack1]

Yeah pretty much... I hope someone speaks to that dude before he destroys someone else's knee.

[@andrewmontgomery5266]

I think it’s a bit like everything else that’s dangerous, he needs a deeper understanding of it to know how to do it properly and more importantly, when it’s ok and when it’s not ok to use it.

[@zgcherif4167]

I have Just tore my knee with à biggener. The doctor say that i have to take rest for 4 weeks. I hope my knee Will recover and be normal. I think that the sparing with biggeners must be contrôled by the trainer

[@TrayCaddyyy]

Every school is different, but I like how Gracie jiu jitsu don’t let beginners spar till they pass their combatives test.

[@slayerbot1394]

As a white belt, im more scared of hurting my opponent than i am of hurting myself

[@TylerSpangler]

A good mentality to have

[@mattkeen3811]

This!

[@liukang85]

similar story for me

[@Nervii_Champion]

Lol I can't tell if it's a joke or if youre actually serious from lack of experience, either one is still funny

[@mattkeen3811]

@@Nervii_Champion He doesn't mean from a technical point of view, that he's willingly going to hurt someone. He means from doing something stupid which results in a training partner getting injured.

[@alecthompson9585]

I would not have been that chill about that takedown. Kudos for staying cool.

[@TylerSpangler]

Karma must have gotten me for something else ☺️

[@LiamLpool]

Staying cool on the surface but internally thinking 'ok now i'm gonna fucking smash you' is an elite level skill

[@LongTimeNoSeeO_O]

I was in the gym that day and met Tyler ! He was so chill as well , it was nice talking to you . The first guy in green is not a regular at our gym either , I think he was also visiting !

[@TylerSpangler]

Yes, my knee hurt, but thank you Syndicate for having me! The gym was awesome!

[@TheCatchProductions]

Speedy recovery brother 👍🏽👊🏽🙏🏽🌟🙏🏽

[@jondoe8762]

you should of smashed that guys head into the wall wtf was he thinking

[@wake1028]

If you know to do that move, you know how dangerous it is. Which is strange, makes you wonder why he'd go for a kani basami knowing that it can hurt you

[@fighterscorner6787]

It is called a dickhead I had a kid tore my knee I had two operations still not right

[@TylerSpangler]

And now I know too 😅 painful little thing

[@filteredfavorites8771]

As a person who trains at syndicate for a few years now, I don't know who that is. Unless he doesn't normally do night classes, or is on the pro-team, he might have been a visitor as well.

[@TylerSpangler]

@@filteredfavorites8771 you’ve got a great gym to train at!

[@teekoo777]

You'd be surprised how many people just see something on youtube and decide to try it.

[@conormarron3238]

You’re way too nice about this man. You can’t let people get away with jumping kani basami in a training environment. As soon as he threw it on you you should have let him know how dangerous and uncool of him that was so he hopefully wouldn’t do it to anyone else in the future. Anyways good rolls bro. Hope your knee heals up soon👍🏻

[@vids595]

He could still be nice and point it out to him right then and there.

[@narukami597]

I wish he broke something in return to teach him a lesson and for justice but he has to protect his youtuber image unfortunately

[@FrozenAngel4173]

@@narukami597 yea cause BJJ is all about bloodlust and vengeance LOL

[@narukami597]

@@FrozenAngel4173 You need to learn the difference between vengeance and justice. Besides I don't care "what bjj is about".

[@FrozenAngel4173]

@@narukami597 I know what they're about and I know what BJJ is about and this dude is a bbj coach. Sounds like you're insecure of yourself and lack control of your emotions.

[@Dybvad1992]

Hahaha omg the editing and sounds are ON POINT 😂 the hanzo/genji “i need healing when your knee tears hahah. And then the legendary ufc clip right after. Just perfect.

[@enamlennahc1701]

Bruh why the HELL would you hit that, let alone so hard? Let alone on a visitor? I know you made a good point about this not defining him or the gym, but damn that dude needs to rethink how he rolls with people.

[@Soulful_Oatmilk]

On top of that, this dude's leg defense was nonexistent. Why even do kani basami when you don't have any leg attacks to begin with! 🤦‍♂️

[@microsoftword213]

Yeah I dont get why people do that

[@TylerSpangler]

He must have watched me try to wrist lock a kid last video and went for the prison rules!

[@rblanco]

@@TylerSpangler hahaha, for sure.

[@MrCmon113]

How dare [random dude] not know literally everything?

[@JoseGarcia-tr9mp]

Sucks when an under skilled guy injures you unexpectedly! As a gym owner, this has happened to me a few times unfortunately. Earlier this year, I hosted a public open mat at my school and this huge 4 stripe white belt was there. He was nothing special, just big, smashing whomever he could and quitting half match from fatigue against anyone skilled. He asked me to roll, of course I said yes. Easily tapped him a few times and he asked me what's the best way to pass guard. So, taking into consideration his natural movement and size I proceeded to coach him on how to do a simple double under pass and what does he do right in the middle of me instructing him how? He reaps my knee after me allowing him to get both of my legs on top of his shoulders, putting all 300lbs of his body weight on the pass too. My knee was injured for 6 months.

[@damirbajramovic292]

How the hell did he reap your knee from that position?

[@Toadcheese]

The crunch sounds sends shivers everytime

[@TylerSpangler]

I get a lot of mileage out of that one 😄

[@PheseantNetsuke]

you're doing godly work visiting all these gyms for us to see how it's like

[@TylerSpangler]

Have a different road trip coming up in a few weeks!

[@LazarusMMA]

@@TylerSpangler if you're ever in NC feel free to check out my spot.

[@laro64]

L or not you’re a warrior bro and your heart was on full display fighting through that injury!!! I learn new things every time I watch and you’re commentary is absolute gold!!!!

[@TylerSpangler]

Thanks for watching amigo

[@laro64]

@@TylerSpangler no bro, thank you content is 🔥🔥🔥

[@jimtaggert7268]

That takedown was uncalled for…I had a guy do something similar, it was his first mistake!

[@TylerSpangler]

Ouchie. Hopefully it didn’t tear anything!

[@jimtaggert7268]

It hurt…I will not lie…one of those cry in the shower after training days!

[@argfasdfgadfgasdfgsdfgsdfg6351]

DO NOT DO SCISSOR TAKEDOWNS. Seriously, knees get fucked up with that all the time. A torn ligament can impair you for life.

[@Tommybgoode]

So nice to see a black belt being so honest with their rolls. Like that arm bar fail. I feel like it takes the pressure off us lower belts somewhat. When I mess something up, sometimes i thinnk someone at my level should have done better, but it's to mess up sometimes, especially just rolling in the gym.

[@TylerSpangler]

Have to be humble and let people know where I F up too 😄

[@BenefitMe1000]

I wish the amount of energy Strickland puts into being mad about absolutely nothing he’d put into his actual training for title contention. What a stupid way to waste an IG story.

[@TylerSpangler]

I agree. Especially when he didn’t respond to me!

[@BenefitMe1000]

@@TylerSpangler That’s clown 🤡 energy bro. Keep doing your thing.

[@drewgatewood1864]

I'm really glad you didn't break your ankle there, and kudos to you for not going at that guy harder. That is a really mook move pulling out a move like that on someone lighter. There is a good amount of unspoken etiquette that goes into grappling when weight class considerations are removed like in a BJJ session. That flagrantly violated a number of them.

[@ohyabuddy12]

Tore my acl first time training in another gym with an idiot, i feel your pain. All the best with the recovery

[@aaronalbert4160]

4:36 I got to roll with him and his brother, last year when I was there. His brother heel hooked almost at will. He almost caught me with an armbar, but I was able to escape. He was able to control me really well.

[@MMAGUY13]

I love this guy He is the most humble guy I’ve ever seen. He shows all his wins and he shows all his losses, so what I get out of this. He is a humble guy that could beat most people, but there’s one or two out there that beat him.

[@chrisvillarreal2752]

I know so many great bbj guys in their 30s and it’s like clock work with the knee injuries poppin up. Father Time always wins 😂

[@RogueRc]

“The gym was nice enough to let me come in for free, they tore my MCL with some stupid n00b stuff, but otherwise were really nice.” Tons of respect for you, having recovered from knee injuries in the past from ignorant people, my stance is nobody is nice enough to do that to me.

[@Aname550]

There's a reason that throw's banned in judo. Can't train it consistently without injury. Just don't do it.

[@TylerSpangler]

It is a nasty oneeeee

[@capaneus184]

I'd say your dignity is still well intact after taking a big injury and still going on to roll with a very, challenging opponent. Hope the recovery is not too bad.

[@JD-np9ii]

You have a blue belt in the art of simultaneous Self Promotion/Self Deprecation. You go hard boi !

[@danielwahlin5660]

The knee-tear was scary. But not half as scary as the fact that the coach was chewing a gum the whole roll.

[@pd7439]

That was one of the first takedowns I was taught as a whitebelt long time ago. Crazy now in hindsight.

[@TylerSpangler]

Dang that is pretty crazy for a beginner takedown! Maybe they just wanted you to be super dangerous 😅

[@deputyjack1]

In ancient times we were stupid, and although we knew... We really didn't know better...

[@cliffbeard7899]

DUDE! YOU ARE CRUSHING IT!!!!

[@boogboog8097]

Exactly why that move got banned from judo, if you don't have correct upper body control to take them backwards this happens way too often.

[@RadicalTrivia]

That's what I expect to see from a coach. Great rolls, hope your knee is ok! 💪🏽

[@SelfTaughtFighter]

Guy who threw scissor take down A** Hole. That pressure pass brining his leg up high testing his flexibility haha, was nice. Damn though that instructor was a savage!

[@janko5000]

Man love your vids they keep getting better keep it up i am here from the beggining of BSB

[@TylerSpangler]

Glad to have you for so long!

[@Aaronsplace]

i train at cascao i didnt realise you came through hope you enjoyed it i love that gym

[@A.C.71]

best commentary of any bjj guy..love it.

[@vincentt416]

The editing would be a nightmare but I really wish I could see a breakdown of the full match with what the coach did that was so effective. Also is there a safe way to do what green shirt guy was trying?

[@davidmills5286]

nice video. Hope the knee doesn't affect you for too long! speedy recovery and look forward to the rest of the "world tour" haha

[@rasalghul9331]

Thanks, Tyler, for providing this breakdown video. You are a real one for showing your successful AND not-so-successful rolls! LOL! I learn A LOT seeing and hearing your commentary on these rolls. Great to see you have no ego problems showing videos of yourself either way. Great reminder to myself that if an experienced black belt such as yourself go through this still, I should not be taking myself so seriously as a recreational purple belt and to just enjoy the process and the experience of learning.

[@andrew-11]

this is a small thing but your 'booms' at the start of videos put me in a good mood lol

[@andrew-11]

adding a note here that jedi seems like a cool dude to roll with whiskey is hittin bois love you

[@jeremymeyer5552]

Im glad this happened in the sense that allot of Jujitsu guys don't realize how injured people get in a wrestling match.

[@Blessed3724]

My guy please check out knees over toe guy... He will have some good advice and testimony for treating your knee I think

[@anti-herocollectibles7735]

hope its not a long term injury. Heal up!

[@TylerSpangler]

Just a partial tear 😄

[@nizak]

I’m two months still on my tear. Scared to go back to soon because it tore again when I thought it was better.

[@anti-herocollectibles7735]

@@nizak Sorry to hear that. I've had multiple knee surgeries so I'm always cautious about my knees. Hope you can keep building back that strength to regain that confidence. No small task!

[@alykat5155]

Everyone knows that leg scissors takedowns are banned especially in sparring, I'm glad that their coach acknowledged it

[@TheRealNiruz]

that knee tear sound that you add in. you gotta stop man lmfao. i cant take it. great video

[@TylerSpangler]

I get so much mileage from it 😂

[@TheRealNiruz]

@@TylerSpangler every damn time xd

[@ricksanchezrosallini3482]

Ouch. Feel better brother! I been there. I have the same rash guard 🎉💪🏽🤙🏽

[@jking5772]

That coach is a monster

[@TylerSpangler]

Yes he was!

[@johnnycaralta]

Damn, Strickland must've got his sense of humour knocked out of him by Pereira.

[@JK-uo3pd]

Definitely would have gouged his eyes out and left them at the membership desk.

[@InvisibleJiuJitsu]

2:12 oh damn, it's a young me!

[@10t0esdown]

You can always tell the clowns and uninitiated in nogi by their energy and outfit.. notice how Jedi went for the scissor sweep and lockup at 0:23 but kept his control and takes care of his partners.. I'm personally not against the move, but if someone does it with ill regard like that.. they need a hard lesson. I would have Palhares' his ass when you had that inverted locked in. Kudos to you Tyler for keeping your composure and I hope the knee is doing better.

[@JDexia]

Hahahaha the third time he was tapping as soon as his foot touched your armpit, he wanted no part of it

[@peterfuentes5893]

As a blue belt even as a white belt, I knew that a sweep like that was very dangerous. I've used it once against a brown belt but I made sure the sweep was clean and if I have to put effort into it, I'll simply ditch it and transition into something else that won't hurt my classmate.

[@awsnaps22]

This move made me sad and I hope youre able to get back soon

[@Pherecydes]

Bruh, you know he 100% baited you with that armbar and was ready with that hitch hiker escape. Next time maybe try the mounted armbar first, or get your grip on his wrist/elbow secured so that he can't hitch-hike out. Anyway thanks for the rolling footage, I hope your knee heals up soon!

[@Watchdogger]

Great great commentary. Educational and entertaining.

[@Henry-sj1kl]

1:That f up. 2: can you bring back your squad? I miss all those characters 🥲😭

[@racecarrr]

Shows the importance of etiquette even against a higher skilled opponent 👍

[@RAG1NGxxINFERN0]

Jeez ive always heard that takedown was super dangerous but I never understood why, unfortunately i got you see why because of you. I hope it recovers quickly.

[@MassAmorphous]

Sean has zero appreciation for your sense of humor 😂😂

[@TylerSpangler]

It definitely went right over his head

[@RorySinn]

I think he's actually too dumb to understand basically any joke 😅

[@ianlevers8450]

Great video Tyler, how much did the knee affect your roll with the coach?

[@TylerSpangler]

Not enough for me to excuse that beating 😂

[@ianlevers8450]

😂👍

[@rusochileno639]

@@TylerSpangler We appreciate that honesty lol thanks for all your vids!

[@zer0ed779]

This was a casual takedown in my Sombo/Sambo classes, albeit 20 years ago. In five plus years, never saw one injury from it, directly, like that. Then again, we trained it hard. All of the time. Just surprised to see people speaking against it. That said, been out of the loop, a bit. I just wonder what would have been said if no injury?

[@jiujitsuvideo3835]

You never saw one injury from it because the guys who got injured didn't come back! What hole have you been training in Zer? This is outlawed in most academies even Danaher's crazy leg lock guys. WTFU!

[@zer0ed779]

@@jiujitsuvideo3835 This was over twenty years ago, and under almost pure Sombo/Sambo practices with the American Sombo Academy of Northwest. That may explain the difference, too. Various scissor takedowns were, and are, Sambo essentials. There were no people coming and going due to this type of injury. We saw more of that from heated armbar exchanges, but the recipient is still to blame. Oh, and we all know Tyler will be back. Maybe quicker than some would like. 😂 Unfortunately, I no longer train anymore, for various reasons. Other than following loosely, I am out of the loop on rules. While I respect Jiu Jitsu as a far superior submission sport, I think the reaction here also exposes one of its well known weaknesses... Takedowns, and take down defense. At least compared to some other combat sports. I can say, back when I trained, even with local Jiu Jitsu guys that could tap me in a second, none of them know much takedown, and they certainly did now practice waist down submissions, which is what a scissor variant can easily lead to. I am glad Danaher and Lister made such practices very popular and refined for their art and grappling in general. Again, I was just surprised by the reaction to this. I agree, if this is truly a no-no everywhere now, and I include outside trendy Jiu Jitsu studios, and somehow I doubt that, I have been under a rock. I have kind of already admitted that and no need for insults.

[@nicolaslaquier]

He really telegraphed that takedown though

[@adamkovacevic8887]

Dude, come to Ocala, FL and kick our asses @PSFBurdhouse!!!!

[@Hazama91350]

I became the new owner of xterm couture! What a bastard! 🤣🤣🤣

[@mjolnir9855]

You should go back and train with that coach more. You got destroyed by him, but you made him work for it. He is obviously very advanced because he used a lot of basics to a very very high degree. That guy has some things you could steal from him. Soul stealing , I call it. Lol

[@Blindgibbon]

I dropped into Syndicate for the Musumeci seminar during ADCC. Awesome gym. Are you planning on droping into Methods while in Vegas?

[@TylerSpangler]

Unfortunately these are my backlog videos from ADCC. Hoping to do Texas soon

[@worldends2]

This was fun to watch

[@brandonballance985]

You should visit B-team jiu jitsu

[@TylerSpangler]

I’m hoping to in a few weeks 😀

[@THEANPHROPY]

Thank you for the upload son! Brother; dont worry about it because those peeps were STRONG; clearly! You know what I am saying son ;::))

[@dinomra7771]

I didn't know you liked Marcelo Garcia, he was one of the first people I started watching, him and Craig Jones.

[@PhysicalTherapyAndFitnessPLLC]

Coach's game was sharp

[@TylerSpangler]

Super talented guy!

[@joootooobboosheet2486]

LOL, LET ME BANG BRO!!!!! I seriously said, "Ouch" out loud! I would bash that guy because I don't tolerate bad partners injuring other people. You're not supposed to hurt your training partner, and those high risk moves are just dumb, and often times hurt someone. Going north/south, then full mount was excellent. Let him know that you own him. Once you split his legs, I hope he felt the same pain he inflicted by that stupid takedown.

[@TylerSpangler]

I love that let me bang bro clip. I appreciate him rolling with me, just would prefer to have my knee intact 😂

[@scottgarner6110]

It is cool they allowed video the roll, but that is why that scissor take down should not be used in any gym, because of the injuries that happen often.

[@shrimuyopa8117]

... No, you should never do Kani Basami while rolling, only if your training partner knows you are going for it and they give the okay. Only high level competitions should allow this.

[@masonwillms2542]

Especially with how trash his leg game is

[@TylerSpangler]

I can say it definitely worked at least!

[@sfr8382]

Sean Strickland's the worst. Acts like an edgelord on social media, pats himself on the back about being such a wild violent animal, talks about killing people in the octagon, etc. Then when it's time to put his money where his mouth is, he goes out and gently jabs his opponents for 25 minutes. Sean should focus on being a better fighter and not waste his time getting riled up by youtubers.

[@brentonmckiterick4786]

I relate to the north south choke spinning lol

[@paprika5487]

That takedown that tore your knee looked too dangerous to be doing, at least with a visitor and at that level.

[@TylerSpangler]

It definitely hurt!!

[@TC-bv4on]

Are the basic butterfly sweeps not a thing anymore as you progresss through jiu jitsu?

[@TC-bv4on]

That’s pretty much the only thing I do rn lol

[@TylerSpangler]

They’re good at all ranks 😄

[@TheRacerx660]

What kind of job you work? Are you able to work or not? i was in this dilemma before with bjj

[@TopLevelJiuJitsu]

Love your vids and style. If you're ever in Ohio, feel free to stop in. We love visitors

[@darrellmcclain5697]

You’re a extremely nice guy. That looked pretty bad not something I would feel comfortable doing unless money was on the line

[@christianwestling2019]

Re Siccor move in training; how should one train for those exactly? Like, how does Mighty Mouse create all of his insane moves if not in training?

[@connormcgrath1064]

jumping kani basami is crazy

[@education9135]

Thats food man but u should do only hand submission no leg submission first usually fir beginners because its mire dangerous than hand submission. Then do another video with only leg submission. Including chokes

[@nautascorona2254]

I can’t believe someone did that ducked up takedown in a friendly roll

[@rafelgraciegraciee6313]

I like your honesty Stay humble 😊

[@milanz2265]

Second guy chewing gum?lol, never saw that before during rolling:D

[@ClaytonJonesImages]

Syndicate is a GREAT gym. I'm sorry that happened to you

[@flyonbyya]

I had knee surgery when I was 13 years old…not fun Hope your knee is ok

[@kangeraga]

Bro I’m so sorry to hear about your knee! But wait, how was it torn exactly? Meniscus, ACL, MCL?

[@TylerSpangler]

Partial mcl 😙

[@ursinhobjj]

Oof on that takedown hope your knee will heal up quick.

[@austinbentley1996]

Amazing rolling, especially when you consider the knee

[@TylerSpangler]

Glad you enjoyed the rolls amigo!

[@katiethecamgirl6693]

Black belt life! Hell yeah

[@TylerSpangler]

Heck yea

[@gianmarcosalerno1942]

Guys dumb question but did Tyler tell everyone to go easy on his knee? If he did I missed it. If he didn't I don't see an issue with the scissor takedown. You have to communicate real quick with your partner "hey go easy on my right knee" or something like that.

[@geronimojiujitsu9541]

Your knee ok Tyler, that did not look good? Both my knees are shot, hate seeing that happen to anyone. Hope it is okay and only needs PT.

[@channi58]

There's a reason it was banned in judo, the mythical Kani basani scissors throw!

[@PhysiKarlz]

An idiot at a Sambo competition tried a horribly executed Kani-Basami on me, almost broke my ankle. At least I won with Juji-Gatami....

[@joshuajtm7202]

Syndicate is no joke its right next door to cobra kai or close anyway good stuff