I Tried a DIY Suspension Setup

[@mariomunoz525]

This series made me realize that the more Zach learns, the longer his hair has been getting. I love it!

[@CrispyGFX]

It's the source of his power

[@TheRealGrunzy]

Knowledge is stored in the hair

[@leviscurlock3986]

it’s not hair it’s his source of power aka pubes on head

[@PaletoB]

Soon it will turn grey...

[@dubssalamander]

Hair = progression

[@roadsport.]

Loving the PROvsDIY series!

[@roadsport.]

@@keinarhya7709 i suppose your father left you so you do this?

[@jamil_cars]

@@roadsport. LMAO

[@roadsport.]

@Dating zone 8 again? Damn, look what no father figure could do to people..

[@roadsport.]

@beauty zone 1 feeling sorry for your mom..

[@DanielFrost79]

I second this comment. 👍

[@savagecomanche]

I love the pro getting their own song every episode and every one of them have been 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@RiggsCo]

Are you serious? Shit sucks. 😂

[@idotg2012]

I freggen love it! “Jesus Cow!”

[@justinl2009]

@@RiggsCo Horrendous taste in music. You should be ashamed!

[@joelawson5329]

Copying mighty car mods so hard

[@idotg2012]

@@joelawson5329 what?

[@williamwatson8175]

Please do not stop this series. I enjoy it too much. Thank you.

[@joealex65]

Tanner is the man! He is always there to do an alignment when you call him (assuming you're in California) and has been on so many channels doing what he does best!

[@emmanuelrivera5239]

Now I am curious of how would the Pros would do with the DIY tools

[@Meekmillan]

@beauty zone 1 the link isn’t working. Can I just email you my credit card info

[@chuckiefinster544]

@@Meekmillan wtf you doing bro

[@GardenGuy1942]

@@Meekmillan I can send in mine

[@bugjuicer]

probably just throw them in the bin!

[@Meekmillan]

@Damar Fadlan I’m not allowed to have one yet but I can borrow my dads tomorrow

[@SonOfThor69]

Good try Donut, but I'm always gonna "Don't" with an alignment. It always seems so frustrating and I'd rather save some sanity by paying someone. Also, the music bits y'all have been adding lately are so great; keep it up!

[@ryandague4473]

Yea, I don't know why they do it. An alignment is pretty cheap and fast. For the price of all the scales and plates you could get ten alignments. I assume they are just doing it for educational purposes to show that it can be done in a driveway.

[@demonikelectronik]

Used to align and corner balance my race car with bathrooms scales, home made alignment bars with string, and a caster/camber gauge. Everything cost under $200 bucks and at 8-10 alignments a year saved me a fortune, besides the hassle of hauling the car to somewhere to do it.

[@demonikelectronik]

@@ryandague4473 on race cars you do it often, usually for different tracks, tires, etc. We've often adjusted rake, balance and even toe right at the track after getting tire temperatures and scrub pattern after practice laps or even qualifying.

[@Hujopaz]

Tanner is crazy good at what he does. He's on every channel and always super chill and precise. I wish I had access to him

[@justice4kurt182]

Love the songs in these episodes. This series is great. It's not constrained to one vehicle like Money Pit. Not that I don't like Money Pit. Great work folks! Thanks

[@Szamboni3]

Damn, Zach is so fun to watch! This is such a great series and puts into perspective all of money pit. Zach is a great mechanic, but this show proves sometimes the pros are just worth it! Keep it up Donut!!

[@toddekramer]

I was trained to add the driver’s weight to the driver’s seat prior to corner balancing…but my OCD can be pretty fierce at times. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@szpecunio]

it makes sense

[@jamesrobinson9176]

If you're going to do something, do it right! Right?

[@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261]

It's not OCD. It's the right way, especially for a competition car, even more so for a lightweight one. The car doesn't drive itself. Many of the alignment results, and all of the corner weights, will change with the weight added.

[@demonikelectronik]

That is the correct way

[@cucadrive946]

These 3d models are SUPER helpful and fun to look at

[@Skellist]

Jobe's the perfect amount of goofing off and actually getting shit done. Great series guys!

[@MrCtheB]

Must be nice to work on a car that doesn't need every bolt torched just to make an adjustment...

[@charlestimmons604]

Fucking GM upper control arm adjusters lol.

[@killermed95]

This has to be one of the funniest episodes I've seen you guys have. This is literally how things would go at home before I bought better tools. And yes my friends and I would laugh at our results too. Jesus Cow!🤣

[@TheIcyWulf]

My god, these animations and special effects are getting amazing. I can't believe Donut content has come such a long way. Kudos to you guys, I'm loving it.

[@Sarah-hp2ty]

I've done so many diy alignments on my Jeeps, I love this series

[@brucerm01]

Lol, its a little different when you only have toe in the front to worry about.

[@krashanb5767]

@@brucerm01 And caster...

[@Someoneudontknow1231]

I really love the new series and hope it continues on as long as possible. I especially like anything with Jobe in it, but out of curiosity are we gonna get money pit also in the near future I hope it didn't get replaced. Keep up the great work Donut

[@zachsempsey1311]

This is the most informative and helpful car content since Science Garage ended. Knowing Jobe has more base knowledge than I do, and then seeing how hard he struggles versus watching a pro do it really gives you an idea of when it makes sense to turn the wrenches yourself and when it makes sense to actually GO TO YOUR JOB and earn the money to pay a professional.

[@TheMinuteMasters]

This series is so valuable! DIY isn’t always cheap and definitely not always equal or better than professional.

[@Ryl33hz]

Guys, this is THE ONLY part of my build I let somebody else mess with and I have absolutely zero regrets.

[@koycarley1787]

The freestyle at 830 about tanner doin his alignment literally made this episode worth watching. Y’all’s content and editing has been top notch lately. Been a sub for a while, keep up the great work. I love all y’all ❤️

[@mattoneill9723]

Those wooden stands would cost triple now!

[@MarclenChin]

This new series is AWESOME.....and the professionals background songs are EVEN AWESOMER

[@mcmaschio]

This series is so much fun 🔥💯Love it 🔥 Thanks Donut

[@IdrisFashan]

After taking my 2009 TSX for alignment and corner balancing, watching this episode had me absolutely weak. This was amazing to watch. I’ve corner balanced planes using the similar method and it took me and two other people nearly a day to do. I so feel this. 👊🏾🧔🏾

[@ChrisPBacon-gn9jx]

Alright, we need a Donut record label. Who is making these banger songs for Pro vs DIY?

[@lifesux0690]

Seriously. The songs are sick.

[@ercussio]

This one was the best one yet!

[@HiDeftheChef]

It's me! Glad you like em

[@nicechad]

These songs are cringe

[@HiDeftheChef]

@@nicechad Thanks man!

[@lewdochris438]

The irony of me stumbling on the prior video with the miata a few days ago to this popping up. always a great time watching the vids

[@hadhod5274]

Man... I align cars every day and now I'm grateful for the tools I use, no matter how outdated they are haha

[@silent5382]

I was thinking the same thing, an alignment rack makes this so much easier and no laying on the ground.

[@EpicBr0]

I really love this series. Too often ive come across tons of people roasting you if you take your to a shop for anything, and theres of reasons where a shop is simply better.

[@littleseal833]

Damn, $29.98 is SO MUCH cheaper than $30, I gotta get five !

[@Kwalk8808]

😂😂😂

[@Eliana13323]

Idk why but whenever i see tanner on an episode i get excited. I think i just enjoy the energy

[@ariel_kirkwood]

I wonder if my experience is typical or not. I replaced all struts/shocks on my 97 Honda del Sol and paid $700-800 for professional labor; they threw in an after-install alignment for less than $130. $300 for alignment feels hella expensive relatively speaking! Did I just get a good deal from my favorite shop? EDIT: It's gotta be the "mobile" convenience part of what Tanner's doing. Great work!

[@saint-cetacean]

I imagine it's also a thing of "we already made a bunch putting the parts in your car" so they can offer a cut rate on the alignment itself

[@bravemujahideen]

@@saint-cetacean the last shop I was in that did alignments I'm pretty sure they just charged for an hour of labour ($140 CAD)

[@saint-cetacean]

@@bravemujahideen Huh, I'd imagine it's definitely the mobile element that sets this price so high then.

[@naggersdie]

The alignment you got was most likely what we call a "toe-and-go". This is what we do on most FWD macpherson strut suspensions where camber & caster is fixed. The reason it's $300 is because it's a performance alignment (Camber, Caster & toe) & corner balancing.

[@borontv6400]

This is legitimately the kind of question I think about at night. Bless this Donut.

[@evanknox719]

PLS DO AN EPISODE ABOUT CHEAP VS EXPENSIVE POWDER COATING!

[@icandothat.2]

it may or may not be the next episode

[@TheBreaded]

I've aligned cars a bunch of times myself, it's not that bad. Toe plates and a FasTrax caster camber gauge. I have a spot in my garage I've marked with the offsets I need using a laser level and I just have some wood and sticky tiles I use on all 4 corners to get the car level and to bring the car up a little bit to be able to get under the car. Set your caster and camber first, then toe. You may have to go back and forth between toe and camber since they affect each other, but it doesn't usually take that long. Corner balancing though, just get some real scales or take it to someone. If setting the alignment is taking a while and you're chasing your tail, it's likely because you have some worn suspension parts (ball joints or tie rod ends).

[@collinwall5169]

Here’s the only issue I have with this one, the local shops charge me 90-100 for an alignment

[@Nitro-fu7rv]

$300 dollars is crazy. I do alignments in in 30 minutes in my shop. Charge 45 dollars

[@Wowezzersdozzers]

@@Nitro-fu7rv $300 is likely because they are mobile and doing it without a alignment rack is more of a pain all around. Plus it is California so everything is more expensive. Also they did do a corner balance. Once you factor all of that in it seems high but not unreasonable high.

[@UlyssesCoto]

@@Nitro-fu7rv $45 sounds like my local guys shops

[@carlostaveras973]

90-100 sounds like just an alignment. It’s about the same here in jersey. I think the extra charge comes from the corner balancing

[@NOTMuzzaFuzza]

@@Nitro-fu7rv I just did one last week for $50 at a bosche shop and they have honda/toyota/etc certification. I can find small shops that does it for less than that. $300 is extremely high for an alignment.

[@Piracanto]

Wait, Zach had to go to Zach for instructions?! Nice. Also, each Pro gets his song?! Jesus Cow!

[@braaap6292]

Your results would've been accurate if you leveled the floor and used the string box. Not doing those things ensures your other measurements are useless.

[@danielwhyte2345]

I really enjoyed the Tanner song 😂 honestly one of the most creative things I've heard on this channel

[@Yashuop]

Your consistency and quality of content never disappoints! ❤️

[@roadsport.]

Hi checkmark!

[@ty1on106]

I like how this is worded as if theres only 1 person making these videos, not a whole company lmao, they dont even switch the bot up for that lmao

[@guillermoriveraa5620]

i love the little songs when the pros are at work, props to the editors

[@rhekman]

Part of the challenge is finding a good alignment professional. My custom TTB suspension Ford Ranger I've been able to dial in myself. I had to learn to DIY because the local alignment shops would either not do it, or claim my frame was bent when their machine spit out numbers they didn't understand.

[@bauerleinjohn]

Yeah I’ve had alignment shops print out the alignment settings they get and they seem to say it’s good enough because nothing is ever equal

[@zachabbott6899]

Cost $80 at my local tire shop 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@rhekman]

@@zachabbott6899 One shop I went to claimed my frame was bent, but they gave me the printout anyway, and they didn't charge me anything either. That enabled me to confirm I was reading caster and camber correctly on my own with my homemade toe plates & harbor freight angle gauge. Cost me 6 hours of messing around, but it saved me $100.

[@zachabbott6899]

I think my comment got posted to yours on accident cause I just read your reply to me and I don’t remember ever seeing your original comment 😅😅

[@fpSmoker]

I give you mad props for even attempting to do it. I am definitely pro DIY but would never even try to do my own alignment played with it once or twice just to get me to an alignment shop that was about it.

[@Alias989]

the more zach struggles the funnier it gets. love it

[@Crossovahh]

Honestly anything involving Sir. Jobe is pure gold

[@Kj16V]

This is the first DIY video I've seen that convinced me to just go let a garage do it, lol

[@fattygamer94]

I put on some aftermarket suspension parts on my mustang. I considered aligning it myself but very quickly I saw how much the tools would cost and how inaccurate it could be. I made an appointment with a shop for it.

[@MBergyman]

String box is how I've ensured proper alignment on my vehicles - I concur, it is a bit tedious, but was totally necessary when I had to troubleshoot some bad tire wear issues I was having on my mk4 GTI - ended up having a damaged rear torsion beam (needed to shim one of the rear wheels). I would never have figured that out without stringing the car and finding the thrust angle of the rear was out. Never had to touch the car's alignment since then (been good for over 100k miles). Tires wear perfectly even ever since.

[@03jere]

Make a Diy vs Pro episode of Vinyl Wrapping!!

[@keinarhya7709]

Special dating for you only 18 years over➺ sexy-nudegirls.host Anna is a beautiful girl. He's the person I love, he's my light day. The way the music flows and sounds is extravagant and fun. Anna is icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration, a star. I could go on and on, understand this. I love NBA Anna.#垃圾.

[@MaxGripMustang]

I've had really good luck with Firestone lifetime alignment. They will do whatever specs you want, and for around $200. You do need to know what you want to set though, so some experience with what each alignment setting does

[@CharlezMalasana]

I have an old Chevy van that we lifted, beefed up the suspension, bigger wheels, lsd etc. we installed old school deep dish wheels but every year I have to replace the gearbox because it leaks like a mofo… some Firestone places won’t even look at it to align it. They just see it and lsay that is too heavy or too tall or they can’t use their plates on the deep dish wheels. I also have had places that the shims fell on the drive out, or I had to go back 2 times to get the alignment right. If you find a decent local shop it’s amazing, but in my experience it’s 2 out of 3 shops that suck if you have a modded vehicle. With my tundra they are just fine. But still…. It’s a necessary evil

[@benistingray6097]

300$ for an alignment? Even here in expensive switzerland thats 80$ max from a pro with an automated laser setup, 30 mins of work and its done, why would you do that on your own?

[@Raindrops4891]

for real i think my last one was like 90 US dollars

[@SnifferSock]

Yeah I know a chain location that ~$300 will get you alignments for life.

[@MrGhastlyAardvark]

@@SnifferSock in Florida I know a chain that 150 gets you lifetime alignments

[@mcmahonnewhaven7874]

I worked at a shop for years. Were $54.95 when I started and $69.95 by the time I left for in store alignments. But the reason it is $300 is because it’s for a mobile alignment. Someone coming to your house or business to do it. Then the price sounds right. Most people just drive their cars in but if it’s utterly jacked a mobile alignment may be needed. Almost seems like it would be cheaper to tow to alignment shop, though. We did mobile alignments for semis but not cars. But I guess some do cars.

[@TSerr97]

I get my alignments from the dealer and they only charge $125 USD.

[@luisjimenez5836]

This series is great, love the little song they create for each episode

[@bruhnt5063]

Day 306 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back

[@subBGT]

With chopped silhouette car

[@jyotikaranjkar5367]

And the groovy musicj

[@jackdub7740]

***new sentence alert*****first time this has ever been said!**** that rap verse about wheel alignment was pretty fire. almost wish you threw a little pop up up and down headlights in there afterwards

[@Gabriel-eu8nt]

I loved the DIY alignment tutorial back then... Now, I'm glad I never tried it myself. :B

[@mgsbigdog9079]

Zach is, once again, hosting my favorite show on Donut. And with that praise, my one request is...we might need a Jesus Cow shirt!

[@bartzalewski]

Jesus Cow is definitely shirt-worthy

[@vroomvroom4061]

now we just need a full 100% video on how to program an ECU

[@Gabriel-eu8nt]

Pretty please?

[@Gabriel-eu8nt]

@@greatestevar True. Maybe basics on how to do electronics maintenance? I have seen they talk about the stuff (programs and such) they use when working on their cars, but I have no idea what it looks like and what's needed.

[@benanderson8329]

Bro, we definitely need a full version of that tanner alignment song....just sick!!!

[@Whiachy]

I would never do my own alignment. Too much going on, and a bad alignment will be more costly in the long run.

[@blucheer8743]

The scales “idea” was pretty funny actually

[@mr.cookie5488]

Best content

[@sienile]

I fully agree that this should be left to the pros... as long as they are good at it. I bought lifetime alignment from Firestone/Tires Plus for $275. After more than 10 alignments that kept working out after a few weeks, I started working at a shop that did alignments and being ASE Certified in suspension and steering, I was the one picked to do them. Once I got good at it, I pulled my own in to see what gave the alignment techs such an issue. Took about 3 hours with the proper tools and a vehicle lift to get everything right, but it stayed that way for years. Now I need struts and don't work there anymore. Hope Firestone got some better techs. :P

[@jamil_cars]

Hey donut, what do y’all think about the regal gs with the 6sd manual

[@LiamNI]

The Buick Regal? It's just a Vauxhall/Opel Insignia. Not great, but not terrible. A bland rep-mobile. Dunno if they have the performance variant in the Buick (VXR for Vauxhall and OPC for Opel), but that would be the only one I'd even consider.

[@jamil_cars]

@@LiamNI yeah that would be the GS, with the 6spd manual and better aerodynamics, and better suspension

[@twtng]

I Love this new series. and they also make a song in every episode.

[@jdmartinez2006]

Rather pay the 50 bucks and have it done by a pro.

[@joshuagibson2520]

Where can I get aligned for $50?

[@jdmartinez2006]

@@joshuagibson2520 San Jose CA

[@demonikelectronik]

You're not getting a race alignment and corner balance for $50. You're getting it tossed on a rack with a teenager cranking on the adjusters until thing are green on the screen.

[@jdmartinez2006]

@@demonikelectronik actually the old dude's Vietnamese and 50 is the cash price if not 75 and this man has done my alignments since I started driving so I trust him and why would I need a race alignment if I'm driving on the street?

[@demonikelectronik]

@@jdmartinez2006 you don't

[@robertlopez1520]

Love this series! Keep ‘em comin! Also the songs are so entertaining lol

[@kbrownfocus]

Not bad.... But I've been doing alignments for ever, passed down from my dad, if you would've only used a level and a plum bob it would've made your work so much easier and way more accurate.... Also researching your make/model specs as a baseline is always good too. Still great content 🤙🤙

[@itunesaccount760]

2:14 it the small things like these little animations that really help :)

[@Knife_Hands]

DIY or DON’T is top tier Donut Media content. Right up with Hi Lo no question.

[@jakemathers366]

I love this series! Also the songs y’all make up is hilarious! And $29.98 is SOO much cheaper than $30

[@ericenle]

Zach makes my favorite donut shows

[@MrDrucraig]

I love the songs for the pros! It’s a nice touch!

[@edreeves3342]

Nice to see the Miata get some love. Really appreciate the series.

[@jonbrewks2568]

These diy or don't videos are becoming some of my favorite

[@KarlMarcus8468]

Who ever is writing the little songs for the pro when they do their work needs a god damn raise.

[@georgieboy360]

I'm loving these and DIY vs Professionals videos! Thanks! keep em coming!

[@geekfreek846]

This and the tool series. Keep em coming.

[@CountersteerGarage]

The songs you make about the pros get me every time

[@jimf5160]

I put 16" vinyl floor tiles at each corner and stack them till I get the car level. I put the scales on the floor tiles and lower the car onto the scales. Harbor Freight alignment turnplates are around 50-60 on sale.. and very helpful, although very heavy.

[@breadvidz8542]

I think PRO versus DIY is the most informative show so far that covers a wide range

[@gm5383]

You can do this a lot cheaper. A digital angle gauge is about £20 (they have varying degrees of accuracy, get a good one), you can get camber gauges that hang off the wheel and are magnetic to hold the angle gauge for you for about £20 as well, you can use cheap self adhesive vinyl tiles attached to a squares of wood for turn plates, and use some cotton, axle stands, and a tape measure to make a string box for toe. All in it should be about £60. I do my track alignment with this a few times a year and have had it checked on a professional rig a couple of time and been within 0.1 degrees so it's definitely possible to do a good job, you just must have a level floor and it can take quite a long time going back and forth all the time. It's one of those things where once you've done it a couple of times it gets a lot easier and quicker, although setting rear toe on a miata is always a shit.

[@TurboJohnRacing]

DIY for life!!!!! Great vid guys.

[@turbo_brian]

I've had surprisingly good repeatability with stringing my car with calipers. I've had a few cars go on full hunter alignment machines after and the results were dead on. I'm also an ocd perfectionist so there's that.....

[@robert8396]

This is definitely my sign to get an alignment already😂

[@JamesAgbona]

Anyone else binge watch Donut videos?

[@MentalRetard74]

Literally everyone

[@keinarhya7709]

Special dating for you only 18 years over➺ sexy-nudegirls.host Anna is a beautiful girl. He's the person I love, he's my light day. The way the music flows and sounds is extravagant and fun. Anna is icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration, a star. I could go on and on, understand this. I love NBA Anna.#垃圾.

[@andrewwang8204]

Thanks for this man, I just installed some new springs on my oldie Datsun Z and was worrying about how to calibrate and tune it

[@adamthompson4072]

Dig that y'all have written a little song for every pro you have on

[@keyokei]

zach watching his own video on how to do this was funny asf!

[@iiAllfather]

Tell me why I only watch donut media now is because Zach and his hair. My project car goddess. Love you Zach.

[@purwantiallan5089]

I love the way Zach learns here.

[@Dagasm]

Love the songs you guys put in this series.

[@johnharder3334]

The pro in this episode is so cool about everything. Just casually helping out, it's nice.

[@austinwells5626]

Love the album y'all are creating, today's song was pretty solid

[@lonewolfsstuck]

Rather useful to know. Im doing a power steering rack soon and would need to know how to get mostly inline until i can get it to an alignment shop

[@nash5718]

Best music overlay ever lol

[@7Edgarz7]

The Miata is back!

[@benjaminluhrsen8980]

Every time I get a new [to me] vehicle I go to a national shop (Firestone) and get the lifetime alignment. Then I can get an alignment for free anytime I replace or upgrade parts anywhere in the US. I can do work at home, my buddy’s garage, my Dad’s garage, or on the side of some road and go get a free alignment at the nearest Firestone shop.

[@jishan6992]

Loved that song on tanner's segment XD It was really something

[@austinsmith1815]

Zach is such a great and I believe he’s the back home to donut media, after the hi low series I only tune in for his videos most the time 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@saucypews]

I love these videos so much! Jesus Cow for the win!