I Tried Running macOS Sequoia on My 2009 iMac and Here's What Happened

[@abethegamerful]

It's crazy a 15 year old computer manages to still run the newest software and still be a useable machine

[@PCReloaded]

Yeah. It's slow but technically you could use it to get the basics done atill

[@taavi948]

Not officially though. Apple dropped this machine ages ago.

[@geoman1420]

@@PCReloaded That's proof that Apple by releasing a "new" MacOS every year in reality is forcing people to buy new macs every few years...

[@Stormlywing]

@@PCReloaded at least is TRY it best to keep up than just quiting saying No i not dead yet Slow but is fair too old to keep down as Linux proofs itself even dead PC can still browse the web

[@SXZ-dev]

@@geoman1420 Not just that, there's a technical reason which is that they have to test every single model for every release and you'd want to keep that test bench relatively manageable and lean in order to be able to ensure quality and reliability. Apple does things like that by design and tbh it's what i would do also, it gets really annoying having to support hardware from 16 years ago when you're building your new software and having to run extensive testing on dozens more machines than you have to currently Opencore does a LOT of work to make the new releases work on old machines and unlike Apple they provide no warranties, if your machine gets bricked and your data is lost forever, that's your problem

[@Somone-1208]

you need more subs man! nice vid

[@PCReloaded]

Thank youu

[@The.official.TravisISCOOL]

I can’t agree more

[@ivandkridd]

Great video 👍

[@PCReloaded]

Much appreciated 😊

[@ed-schramm]

now i'm so tempted to do this, oh god

[@islamlearning012]

yeah you helped me enjoy my homework session where i have to write my work on to the copy thanks man plz reply

[@islamlearning012]

sub for you from me keep making good vids

[@PCReloaded]

Much appreciated!!

[@Judebellingam31]

hey man are you going to post any videos about hackintosh? i would really appreciate it!

[@PCReloaded]

Was thinking about doing one on my laptop - been many years since I've done a hackintosh so it'd be nice to do one ... Just trying to find the time to record lol

[@Judebellingam31]

@PCReloaded Since I recently built my new hackintosh big Sur (it didn't went as well as planned), I love to watch hackintosh videos. And I would love it if you make one!

[@xMarvin732]

The sweetspot i had on my Mac Mini 2009 was getting Monterey on it, after that it causes bluetooth and graphic issues

[@S-1_24-25]

I managed to get Windows 11 on my iMac which is also from 2009, the performance is horendous which isn't surprising. I wasn't able to reinstall Sierra on it as it had server issues.

[@terabyte100]

You need A SSD and min 4 GB ram and a SSE4.2 CPU to Run Win 11.

[@S-1_24-25]

@@terabyte100 I have all of those apart from the CPU which I’m not able to upgrade. It has a 120GB SATA SSD along with 4GB RAM but even the RAM isn’t enough for Windows 11

[@KOSMOS1701A]

this is why i don't like apple that much, there is practically no issue with these older machines running the newest stuff aside from apple saying "no"

[@SXZ-dev]

There's many issues that Opencore has to provide extensive patching for, from missing drivers they add in to hacks they need to perform to get around deprecated graphics APIs (which despite their efforts still don't work on every model), they do a lot of work with Opencore, Apple doesn't just say no, Apple makes a decision based on how many machines they can realistically expect their developers and engineers to keep testing and dogfooding internally before public release. Opencore has no legal liabiity, if you brick the machine with their upgrades and lose all your data that's your problem, with Apple official software it's a different story, people just expect things to work reliably and that's on Apple to ensure. They do that with dogfooding and internal testing but obviously you don't want hundreds of models being tested at once, you want to keep that test bench relatively lean, so they remove support, clean up the drivers and focus on being as efficient as possible with the newer hardware. You can agree or disagree but it's a technically valid business strategy

[@PCReloaded]

@SXZ-dev this ^

[@KOSMOS1701A]

@@SXZ-dev ok, that's a fair argument.

[@M1riiamm]

How the heck do u have less subs than me 😭 Also great vidd

[@peterscheepers5780]

Sequoia runs on my iMac 2008 with the usual maps not running but further it runs fine but slow.

[@bobbyjimenez4482]

I put ventura on this via OCLP but upgraded the ssd... And it's OK

[@Envixityzxx]

im the 998 subscriber bro

[@jacksonsystemslimited]

How is this possible then? I have a 2010 iMac which doesn't support Metal in the GPU which I believe Sequoia needs or there will be no boot screen. This looked to have a boot screen has it had a GPU swap? by Default surely this would not support Metal.

[@PCReloaded]

No metal support at all. There are gpu patches which I think work to translate some calls, but there's still issues. That's why the menu bar is glitch and some apps just outright don't work (steam glitches, games etc).

[@PCReloaded]

Besides the SSD and upgraded ram, it is all factory.

[@jacksonsystemslimited]

@@PCReloaded Yeah interesting MIGHT try Seq on my 2010. See what happens lol.

[@PCReloaded]

If you have a better cpu it might be usable. The core2duo is just not happy running anything newer than Catalina lol

[@jacksonsystemslimited]

@@PCReloaded it was an i3, I upgraded It to an i7 2.8 Quad Core and maxed the RAM to 32GB.. but the GPU REALLY lets it down and slowed it right down!

[@MIrophage]

great video, please invest in a good mic

[@ShapedCrawdude57]

All it needs, if it doesn't have it already, is an SSD and potentially RAM upgrade

[@PCReloaded]

Done both already

[@ShapedCrawdude57]

@@PCReloaded Huh

[@PCReloaded]

8gb ram maxed out and a 128gb ssd (now has a 1tb ssd but as recorded it has a 128gb ssd)

[@ShapedCrawdude57]

@@PCReloaded ahh got it.

[@dertollekanal]

1000 subs🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@minionguy5057]

I have a mid 2010 iMac and my USBs are broken.

[@rrcoster]

Run a lot better if you upgraded to SSD as painful anyone today use old mechanical spinner drive as boot drive

[@PCReloaded]

It is an SSD lol

[@omarshakhshir-r8v]

you should try it on MacBook late 2008 with 8 gb ram and ssd but you should put more ram on it but pls try it on 2008 MacBook

[@PCReloaded]

Don't have a MacBook rn but if I ever get one I will

[@MrCullty]

could sadly not join your discord plz fix so i can join it

[@PCReloaded]

discord.gg/tM7nW2uR

[@Through_the_door]

try installing linux arch on it and customize it to make it look like macos

[@Techlevel1534.]

ew

[@PCReloaded]

If I get time I might try this

[@isthattee]

wait, did you need to use a USB hub to get KB and mouse working? Mine would not recognize mouse or keyboard at all, even with a USB 2.0 Hub

[@PCReloaded]

Used the hub built into the original apple usb keyboard

[@PCReloaded]

What other things should I try and run on this iMac? (OS and programs)

[@rachneraarachnera1805]

Windows 11,but please max the ram to 16gb,it'll help a lot the performance,also ddr3 rams are really cheap rn,I did the same with my MacBook pro mid 2012 and it runs Sequoia and Windows 11 really good,I can also do some gaming on Windows partition. Btw,I know that my CPU is a lot Better than the one in your Imac,so mostly this did the difference,but the rams still helps a lot. Also don't forget to check if oclp did find root patches and than reboot. Also you can always check if you can upgrade the cpu and put something better

[@bluebagci]

@@rachneraarachnera1805 it only supports up to 6gb of ram.

[@Gray_sprunkiYT]

Windows 8.1

[@SlyStarling]

@@rachneraarachnera1805 You do realise that older Macs or even any computer support a maximum, that being 8gbs for the 2009 models. This down to a firmware lock I believe, though it could also be down to the piddly core 2 duo

[@LewisDonofrio]

you need a usb v1.0 hub

[@yorkan213swd6]

Put more ram inside +2x4GB then it will run faster. More Ram, more Bandwith.

[@PCReloaded]

That's what I upgraded to - 2x4gb since running on just 4gb was uhhh not great

[@yorkan213swd6]

@@PCReloaded Great, but I mean 4x4GB. You use all memory slots. Else you run the machine with a handbrake.

[@PCReloaded]

@yorkan213swd6 This iMac only has 2 ram slots sadly

[@platinumstaryu5454]

@@yorkan213swd6I think you are thinking of the Late 2009 iMac which included 4 RAM slots. The Early 2009 only had 2 slots for RAM sadly.

[@ShapedCrawdude57]

@@platinumstaryu5454 I have the late 09 model, one of the first few ever made along with its original Magic Mouse. The keyboard broke in 2016

[@CRYPTiCEXiLE]

i have a imac 2011 with like 24gb of memory or something lol should be ok i think its a core i5 :/

[@frankieepurr]

35:19 how this cant run on a 2009 imac

[@SparkTech155]

it can run? wtf

[@PCReloaded]

Just about lol