I (tried to) defend the worst Scrub Quotes.

[@Bone8380]

I love how he tries literally only one singular time to defend a scrubquote, realizes he can't, and the rest of the video just turns into a scrubquotes react stream

[@greenoftreeblackofblue6625]

Well because they're scrubs but you should be on the lookout for a actual issue.

[@kaycee7738]

​@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625oh look I found an "actual issue" in your comment! *An

[@dashxxiii]

thanks for spoiling the entire video

[@WohaoG]

@@dashxxiii WATCH THE VIDEO

[@josiahws5]

​@@dashxxiii bro didn't watch the video

[@acehasgreed]

Coney's good at defending ScrubQuotes because he himself is bad at games. They call him "Mr. Beats Games" but in reality he's Mr. Scrub at Games

[@nathanielb1119]

GOT EM!

[@bobjones9385]

Get his ass

[@arfanik9827]

Mr Two Trips isn't no scrub, best King player in the game

[@Cye_Pie]

Haha just wait till Coney sees this! He will be PISSED!

[@g0ldenrayz]

Hi ace

[@AniMariBro]

My dad walked in during the Mahjong rage reading and said "when did Gilbert Gottfried start doing game commentary?"

[@kyallon1213]

Coney really is the Gilbert Gottfried of video games

[@johnnyboy7630]

Dude that second one was not a scrub quote, that shit was a whole scrub CONSPIRACY

[@JohnPimbus25]

fr that guy i think may just be mentally ill… just like everyone else who plays fgc

[@chaosflash912]

Either that is the most butthurt tinfoil hat wearer or the most dedicated troll I've ever seen.

[@casulgamer1499]

Your honor, I plead insanity

[@WhyYouWahYoo]

whenever I play fighting games I have a DSP on one shoulder and a Sajam on the other and I give in to the dark side way often than I’d like to admit.

[@jpVari]

I got married, and a lot of my rage is verbal. Helped me change, but before that there was a very funny period where I'd say something angrily and then turn around and go 'I don't really think that, I like these games and what I said is wrong because xyz'

[@ThePlKLE]

​@@jpVari dude i do the same thing. "Ah that move is bullsh*t!... nah i just don't know the counter..... " or "oooh must be nice to have that option!..... i have that option too i just didn't think of it.."

[@Oh-Ben]

They just added a Pop Team Epic panel into SF6, the "I'm not gonna ever play this sh*t game again" one.

[@P0rk_Sinigang]

​@@jpVariWait, so did your now wife have to deal with your verbal rage before the wedding day?

[@dmas7749]

i love that

[@JerichoTheCity]

Coney wasn't just playing devil's advocate, he was trying to be the devil's assistant. Typical contrarian behavior.

[@ImTheGuy]

NAH, he is just The Devil

[@Jelliott_ssb]

@@ImTheGuyBro’s getting DEVIOUS

[@Mikon595]

"Wordle should not pick words that you don't know" HOW????????????????

[@gabrieldoon]

Not hard at all... Just find a source (Oxford English Corpus) that tracks the most common English words and filter for five letter words. Can't complain about not knowing a word if it's proven to be common.

[@Virtual_Rays]

@@gabrieldoon So then anyone who gets the word wrong should be labeled a certified dumbass.

[@bennyharvey8436]

​@@gabrieldoon the funny thing is that the wordle word pool already has uncommon words cut out. There might be some words that are uncommon in the US because Wardle is from the UK, but otherwise the words should be well known.

[@theemeraldslash6999]

@@gabrieldoon🤓

[@theemeraldslash6999]

@@gabrieldoon🤓

[@Yvs8962]

The first quote reminded me of this one time when a guy I kept beating in tournament was malding in discord after we played and said “There’s no way my character beats yours, I cant believe anyone actually thinks that” (I played a low tier and he played a top tier who was one of my worst MUs) and I just said “I dont know I struggle with this matchup a lot against other players, I think you just have to work on your fundamentals” and he said the funniest quote that me and my friends still meme about years later: “I should not need fundamentals to win” 😂😂😂

[@Lowqualitysoundtrack]

Yeah you don't need fundies to win when you have full screen eagle spike! 🤤

[@fatyoshi696]

in a way i kind of feel for that guy though, even if your character has a good matchup into the opponent's it doesn't necessarily mean you yourself will be good at it, your personal matchups as a player can look different from your character's actual matchups. I play elliana in rivals of aether, and even though people say the maypul matchup is supposed to be like 7-3 in my favor, i'm terrible at the matchup and it doesn't actually feel like i have any advantage. That said this is still something you need to be conscious of instead of letting it become fuel for your gamer rage though

[@Yvs8962]

@@fatyoshi696 I can definitely see from his characters side how there would be certain things that are tricky to deal with. The neutral only slightly favored him, I had decent tools to space around and stuff out bad approaches. I was really good at playing to those strengths and knowing how to beat the typical stuff his character liked to do cuz he played a very common character. In up close scrap my character was actually MAYBE favored, but his character still won in neutral with better air drift, ground speed, and lower commitment buttons with better reward The real thing was the punish game, he got the easiest 70+% combos or 0-deaths on me off most of his kit, and good players only needed 1-2 openings to take a stock, whereas I only had a few options that gave me guaranteed reward of usually only 20-30%, and to get more I had to make a read (I read this guy like a book, so not an issue) but I would still typically need 5-8 neutral wins per stock and could really only KO off hard reads or stray hits. Was definitely like a 70:30 when played correctly by his character, but I was really good at the MU, and was also ranked while he wasnt so he shouldnt have felt so bad about losing to me.

[@d.s.alcoda]

​@@fatyoshi696there's no way elli maypul is that big in elli favor And this coming from a very pessimistic maypul player P sure maypul does very well against elli, so don't blame yourself lol Tho elli is still cringe so blame yourself for that instead

[@marzipancutter8144]

@@fatyoshi696 I get what you mean. Some matchups are only really in your favor if you play a certain way to really abuse your opponents weak spots. If you don't know how to a "winning matchup" can be much less favorable. Bonus points if the winning strategy is something like excessive camping, which you as a player might not have the patience for (and even if you do and win by it, it's not necessarily what you wanted to spend your time doing that day)

[@samueljacques9381]

As someone who mostly knows you from Smash Commentary years ago and recently started watching the youtube videos, it truly amazes me how good you are at taking anything, whether good or bad, and making a fun, engaging conversation out of it. I'm sure it's part charisma and part fuck ton of practice, but I want to point out you've been a real bright spot on some days. Cheers.

[@CONEYZZ]

thanks man, that's really nice 🙂

[@hoodiecatsu]

3:08 "Is this Mental Illness or is this Bait?!" needs to be a game show

[@BeretBay]

Don't give Coney ideas for free.

[@oreo10101]

That’s just browsing twitter

[@calvintabor5734]

Discussing "improvement is not fair to the average player:" My wife got me into smash bros ultimate while we weren't even dating yet. We were similar skill level at that point, both super casual. Since then, ive grinded and I'm very good but she's pretty much exactly the same level she was 5 years ago and she refuses to play with me. So in a way i get it.

[@Adr16n1122]

For real though. I have a party game I got really into(hundreds of hours member of niche 200 person player base) that I can't play with my friends at all anymore because I just know the game now. It's a favorite game of mine, but the way I learned to play, it is just a separate ball park from anyone with casual interest.

[@kyx5631]

@@Adr16n1122 Which one is that? Sounds interesting.

[@lexguo8068]

Some of my friends and I got into Smash, so we play together regularly and stay at roughly the same skill level. Even some friends that get regularly wrecked still like playing, they just consider it a win when they get two stocks. Can't play with my family and the remaining friends though.

[@Gohka]

I definitely understand the sentiment. I've been on both sides of it haha, I remember when me and a few mates randomly got in to Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed (basically mario kart with sonic characters) we were just playing it for a bit of fun one day, but I got so in to it I spent the next like 3 days playing it non-stop. When my friends came back to play again, I absolutely destroyed them and they pretty soon stopped playing the game. I did the same when we did a Minecraft "Race to the Nether" thing many years ago, somehow none of them had learned the trick of finding an over-world pool of lava and bucketing water over to make the Nether portal. Like I said though, have had the same experience in reverse, playing PoE with a few of my friends was always a ball-ache for me because I always wanted to experiment with whacky builds and they were just lightning-arrow builds and like nothing else lol. Or WoW I had a friend who constantly wanted me to play WoW with him, when I finally did I was so overwhelmed with the decade+ of knowledge my friend had on the game I was burned out after about 2 weeks lol.

[@alphaamigo9688]

Idk how much this applies to Smash, but one thing I do if I'm playing against someone who doesn't know a fighting game that well is I play a character I don't know how to play. That way it's a little more balanced and I'm not rofl stomping them.

[@roguelyft6839]

New Coney Series for Coney to milk for a month and then forget about for a year

[@mercysfinehips]

youre 100% correct actually because this is actually episode 2. the first episode was all the way back in 2020

[@CONEYZZ]

Give me 10 good websites and I'll do Websurf THIS WEEK

[@mercysfinehips]

@@CONEYZZ check dms

[@greenoftreeblackofblue6625]

​​@@CONEYZZNo we only want the good series. Like shitty geni where literally everyone gets fucking pissed off including the commenters on that series including me too. I haven't been mad in a while I miss it

[@MosesBaker-sk1wv]

@@CONEYZZ please great merciful streamer

[@chaerilins]

no yeah mahjong goes sweaty as hell because it's literally designed to make you mad. basically, the objective is to make specific hands and win the game (like poker but more complicated), and it involves each player taking turns drawing a tile and throwing one out into the pile in the middle. then, _anyone else at the table_ can grab your tile to use for their hand if they have a 3 of a kind or a 3 sequence (like 4, 5, 6 or whatever). and if you're the unlucky fucker who gives someone the tile they need to win, *you're the only one at the table that loses money.* and some of these hands are fucking EXPENSIVE and you probably have actual money in the pot, so you have to not only figure out what your opponents are playing, you have to avoid giving other ppl the win late-game, AND you have to have specific combinations in order to actually win the game. it's fucked up ;-;

[@shandy6198]

Since mahjong is 4 players playing free for all optimal play is often really defensive and potentially throwing away the hand you built if you have a risky tile, all while being luck of the draw. Perfect play can be unsatisfying at times.

[@xravenx24fe]

​@@shandy6198 Yeah, like poker, strategic folding is absolutely essential and is just another tool. Primarily you work with the luck you're given and maximize your success, that can mean sandbagging a couple early matches to win late or win big early and then try to coast, etc.

[@shobooknight]

You can only call a sequence from the previous player, triplets can come from anyone

[@3eve0n]

yomi hustle slaps but I agree is NOT fighting game. calling it not a game at all is just silly though, that's like calling chess not a game.

[@Magicmarina]

yomi is incredibly diffrent from other fighting games so wether it is one or not is strange but what I do know is that it is a gateway drug to guilty gear strive or other fighting games that are real time

[@mythosinfinite6736]

I'm content with calling it a turn-based fighting game. It's a method of allowing people to learn important terms without the execution barrier, as important the execution barrier is. I can have conversations about fighting game mechanics with a friend of mine who only plays YOMI, even though their experience is very different. It's a new subset.

[@trigger7ff6]

youre summoning the horde with this one ill be real

[@wizardwithanaxe]

Hi I'm here for the horde It is a fighting game

[@freedfg6694]

I mean. It IS a fighting game. Just because it's turn based and deliberate doesn't mean it's not a game in which you fight your opponent with frame data, combos, advantage, footsies and the like.

[@iancole2279]

For the Manga Wordle word I have no clue why that got so many people up in a tizzy. There have been way more obscure words as the word of the day then Manga.

[@boogsss2]

Probably racism

[@grunkleg.2934]

Boomers don't know what an anime is

[@ryanrech107]

Most younger people know the word, but a lot of the people that do wordles are 40+ and It’s probably by far the least known word that wordle has had for that age group.

[@_Jay_Maker_]

@@ryanrech107 I'm 44 and I've been into the genre since the fucking 80's. It's not unknown in my generation. We literally grew up with it. lmao People are so detached from reality they forget how "old" people in their 40's actually are.

[@greenoftreeblackofblue6625]

​@@_Jay_Maker_now are you the outlayer or the common denominator?

[@SquidlingTM]

Okay but unironically, all the hater energy aside, I love when Coney does stuff like this to hear out other people’s arguments and try and explain what they might be advocating for no matter how outrageous they are. It’s honestly really refreshing

[@five_6_seven_8]

YES CONEY I DO GET SO MAD AT VIDEO GAMES AAAAAAAAAAH

[@CONEYZZ]

AAAAAAAAAH ME TOO AAAAAAAAAAH

[@ShadekyuNTG]

i once ended up on scrub quotes for a satire post i made on Smash Rage subreddit lmao

[@TJ-Henry-Yoshi]

Hell yeah Orin PFP! Become the bait!

[@competitively3315]

Fantastic subreddit. Hope coney covers it at some point

[@ZachAttack6089]

​@@TJ-Henry-Yoshi""""""""""""""""Henry"""""""""""""""" spotted

[@goncalocarneiro3043]

@@TJ-Henry-Yoshi Yo, another sighting.

[@TJ-Henry-Yoshi]

@@goncalocarneiro3043 it is comical how often this happens in the replies of someone else's comment

[@BudewFan_]

“Is this mental illness or just bait” is the eternal question posed by all internet commebts

[@candi_appel]

"He was mashing!" "We've all been there.." He says, while looking wistfully off into the distance and no truer words have ever been spoken.

[@joshuaturner4602]

So as a person that occasionally gets frustrated by fighting games myself I think one of the big answers is to reduce the maximum reward for guessing correctly. If you can with optimal play end a fight with two interactions the game will hemorrhage players. No casual player wants to lab out how to beat a singular option, but if you hit with with Down Forward 2 and then link into a combo that eats 75% of my health bard while I cannot do anything I will get frustrated with the game. Now from the Serious crowd you will hear "You made the mistake about 5 seconds ago when you let him get you into a position where he could hit you with DF2 like go back and fix that" and as a casual gamer I will politely tell those people to go jump in a lake, I do not have the speed of thought to work out in the middle of a match why I got hit by df2 and even if I could in the situation described he doesn't even need to land a combo that punishing to win after that. And in a casual environment I cannot just go lab the interaction over and over again. So there you have it comey Shorter combos that do less damage (this gives you more wiggle room to learn while playing in the middle of the match), better design the game rules so the point where you fuck up and the point where you take all the damage are closer together (this makes identifying the mistake easier and learning how to not make it again much more viable), Add stuff that you can do while being comboed (so many of the traditional games feel like [note the useage of the word feel here which means that i am not saying it is true but ti can feel that way] you get hit once and then your opponent plays hackisack with your corpse for 15 minutes while you are powerless to take action) so that even while they are in disadvantage state a player doesnt feel like they may as well go to the kitchen and get a drink for all the different it will make.

[@myniko]

So guilty gear strive does do some of these sins you talk about but solves the root problem of “what did I do wrong?” On counter hits, the game does a slow down, screams counter, and shifts the camera. It make it a lot easier to know that “hey, maybe I shouldn’t have hit that button”

[@Xanek]

Coney defending scrub quotes while he is also a known scrub quoter. 19:02 What happened to this guys life to trash talk this much in Halo 3... in 2024???

[@ashen_roses]

Imagine mocking someone being poor for daring to game.

[@Adr16n1122]

Obviously, not enough has happened to him. He's still hyper competitive and raging about Halo in 2024.

[@VVheeli]

Can’t remember if it was for Cod or Halo, but all I can think of is the Danny G xbox live argument. Man was ready to break a person’s legs over a game, so I’m not that surprised by gamer rage now.

[@guywithaguitar8521]

14:28, Long time mahjong enjoyer here, I can translate. The Poster here is looking for "genbutsu" tiles. in Riichi mahjong(Which is what mahjong soul is but with wifus) player take turns drawing and discarding tiles, these tiles players can win off. Genbutsu refers to a tile that is 100% safe, in FGC terms a safe jump. there is no way you get punished for making that move. now since drawing tiles is random which tiles you get that are safe or not are random. so the poster is complaining about RNG. 7 Toi Tanki is weird, i assume he's talking about his opponent is waiting on a 7 tile, toi toi is where your hand is all triplets, so like having a full house in poker, but with more tiles. Tanki is where the rage comes in, Tanki means that the opponent is waiting on 1 tile, out of the 36 possible tiles in the game they are waiting on a singular one to drop. always a feels bad situation. Getting promoted to "Saint" is the ranking system in mahjong soul. So TLDR: Mahjong player is mad at the unbelievable bad luck he went though (Relatable if you ask me) but thats half the fun of mahjong, half the crazy luck to make something wild happen, half strategy. still a blast with friends. "Wait can you gacha better tiles" - Coney. I shit you not some people believe this. just type in "mahjong soul is rigged" and the first reddit result is a guy saying that pay to win scrubs get better luck (Which is not true, I have spend a decent chunk on mahjong soul and still can get out lucked by F2P players) Mahjong is fun, if there wasn't so much to learn to get into it i would reccomend it more to people, but half the time it looks like, and im quoting a friend here "Tile Yugioh". with the amount of japanese words being said like Riichi, Tenpai, Yaku, Honitsu, Yakuman, Furiten..ect... and placing tiles down sideways it does look like that from the outside.

[@liviousgameplay1755]

Lol, one of the newer Yugioh decks is called Tenpai, and if they draw one of their important cards, they get to safely execute all of their effects for a whole phase (the one that matters the most). Anyway thanks for context about that part. I was about to go down the mahjong rabbit hole and now I don't have to.

[@murkiri]

15:22 this is exactly what it's like to play splatoon, but instead of regular confusing lingo, we have to deal with stuff like "slosher" and "squelcher"

[@Amirrorofmirrors]

I love the idea that rather than spamming racial slurs, people start calling you a fucking slosher when they lose in splatoon

[@razz3370]

Honestly when it comes to talking back to trash talkers I think Dunkey solved it. Playing the baby crying sound into the mic while they rage is so funny and shuts people down so quick it’s awesome

[@TeaOfJay]

The art of the rage has always been a thing in online gaming. I remember back when Marvel Vs Capcom 3 was new I got a message in Spanish that basically said 'there's a button other than heavy asshole." I was playing Haggar and looping him in the air throw over and over again. Good times.

[@LinktotheFuture-zs9km]

My favorite genre of CONEY video is where it’s him versus the world defending a stupid ass opinion.

[@quincymiddletonjr6194]

That mahjong rant had me ugly laughing😂great content

[@ArCayne_FGC]

That first one is so wild. "Improving is not fair to the average player." Wha...?

[@-w0rdz-30]

Coney’s onto something with Wordle. It should list the definition of the words (at least the target word) within the game. I shouldn’t have to go elsewhere for the definition.

[@silgon8705]

I had to explain to my grandma's Wordle group chat what manga is

[@Mar-zw3eu]

You can't forget that the first quote is about YOMI Hustle you literally have 30 seconds to plan out each move. Most peple would just tell you tips on improving if ask.

[@calebrobbins6406]

The CIA'll be after you for this one Coney. Praying for you 🙏

[@ShesSoPringles]

the closest thing I've come to making a "party mode" for me and my friends who have big skill gaps in fighting games is when we would play Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3, and my friend would play using simple controls, and I would set my handicap from 5 stars (the default) to 2 stars, which basically meant one or two very very basic and simple combos would kill any of my characters. This combined with the fact that I had Phoenix Wright (aka Mr. Let's Go Gambling) and my friend had Vergil as his anchor, meant that we basically turned this whole thing into a mini game of kill Wright before he gets his tournabout mode, and kill Vergil before he fucks up everyone with x-factor. Despite the big skill gap, it still ended up being a lot of fun. You can do a similar thing in DBFZ by only picking one character and letting your opponent pick 3. So you have to essentially do thrice the amount of work, and so they don't mind getting combo'd into the dirt as much if they know their individual hits matter more.

[@Onlyitsmereid]

Ok but the sea of thieves is actually so true because like 90% of the time you’re playing PvE on quests and shit with your friends and then suddenly you just lose all your quest progress because you ran into someone with better gear or even just more players

[@colmecolwag]

That is not true at all, all gear in Sea of Thieves is exactly the same. Smaller boats are more agile than bigger boats from escaping from the bigger teams too ....but also the real thing is that there's not nearly enough other ships in this game. I barely ever see other ships at all and it's actually kinda annoying lol (But also general sea of thieves advice: the loot ain't yours until you turn it in. Bigger ship hoards you got is bigger risk you're knowingly taking on)

[@Onlyitsmereid]

@@colmecolwag ok so the better gear is a bit of a stretch, but I do remember trying to go on quests and then having my shop get spammed with all kinds of different cannonballs and firebombs while we just had the basic stuff you spawn in with

[@colmecolwag]

@@Onlyitsmereid you can find those but I don't usually see them actually used much lol ...except by skeleton ships. Which aren't necessary other players but are ALSO mad annoying too lol

[@goncalocarneiro3043]

@@colmecolwag The problem with those games and fighting games is that very instance of "I don't like losing my crap, so I will avoid doing that", and now that the PVE mode exists, all those people flock there.

[@BlackKnightsCommander]

Every time i see DSP I just remember him failing at ToTK puzzles and just think "nah he gets 0 points on anything he says."

[@Le_Dom]

That Mahjong segment was enlightening. Now i know how eavesdroppers feel when my friends and I bitch and fighting games stuff

[@pup64hcp]

PLEASE let this come back for another video this is even better than Fact or Opinion

[@Loxu69]

There are actually a lot of scrubquotes that are agreeable, but the reason they are scrubquotes is because the person saying them don't know why its agreeable. A typical scrubquote is like "This person is abusing online by mashing and doing things that are really hard to react to" which can be a real problem, but in reality this is a silver match, the "mashing" is block strings, and the "hard to react to thing" is like drive impact or a main mechanic of the game. In reality fighting games are entirely knowledge checks and the average person will never truly get into fighting games because losing to someone because they know more than you can feel unwinnable and a lot of people turn feeling unwinnable to the thing actually being unwinnable.

[@goncalocarneiro3043]

Knowledge is an important part, but so is execution. It serves me no help knowing the frame data on "heavy standing punch" if I can't tell when it's happening on reaction despite it being what's considered a slow move. It's one thing to know "ah, that string has an overhead and a 50/50 at the end" and "oh, that attack is unsafe on block". Another is to act on that knowledge.

[@DragoonCenten]

If you agree with a scrubquote, it says far more about you than the creator of the quote.

[@Loxu69]

@@DragoonCenten not really what i said at all

[@Loxu69]

@@goncalocarneiro3043 I have been playing fighting games for a long time trust me 70% of fighting games is getting hit with something going "how the hell do I beat that" and figuring it out. Execution is important but compared to other esports its way closer to chess than it is to like counter strike.

[@goncalocarneiro3043]

@@Loxu69 Compared to other e-sports, sure. But that's not the standard I am holding fighting games to. I am more holding it to the likes of turn based RPGs, strategy games and some "barely action" RPGs. Those easily have "0,5%" execution, if any. The comparison to chess in this case is considerably more appropriate.

[@Duvi0]

YOMI Hustle goes so goddamn hard, it's potentially even a good teaching tool for people who want to get into fighting games. The replay system is the most genius part of it from a casual perspective, being able to basically see something that you literally could not execute even if you were a top 0.01% player at any other game. It's like competitive Superhot. It's like playing a fighting game in TAS. It's pure tension and neutral broken up by the most insane combo strings known to man. It may not be a traditional fighting game by traditional terms, but it is My Fucking Jam.

[@celestialwaffle1491]

Oh my god The first quote is about the game YOMI Hustle, which is basically a turn based fighting game (highly recommend). All improvement in that comes from learning, not tough execution. They are dead wrong.

[@Spher0]

The game comes up later in the video

[@celestialwaffle1491]

@Spher0 yeah, I saw that later, but the comment is fine as is. Also I think Coney did a bad job explain it lol

[@edfreak9001]

@@celestialwaffle1491 tbf coney doing a bad job explaining things is the brand

[@axletman3394]

YOMI Hustle is so fucking cool. It's an inherently different skill set, imo, and one that I suck at, but it's still so cool.

[@ckorp666]

it IS pretty miserable to get stomped in that game tho, so i can empathize

[@nomdeplume9590]

So as someone who plays a bit of Mahjong, the words they were using are mostly different conditions a hand can fulfill to get more points, and what they were complaining about is that they were getting unlucky. The thing is, skill in Mahjong is the ability to maximize your chance of winning and account for luck, and you WILL get unlucky sometimes, that's just the game, so they just need to build some composure or play a game that is not literally defined by randomness. And also, yes, online Mahjong is VERY sweaty.

[@chaosflash912]

Coney learning the hard way what being a public defender must be like in the world of Scrub Quotes.

[@TheOblomoff]

My scrub quote for the collection is: Combos are boring, both to watch and train. So I'm willingly playing without them. I'm aware I could be reaching a whole step above my current rank, if I just bothered to look up the combos and repeat a few times. But - it's just so boring. Low skill level fightings is significantly more interesting anyway.

[@naph5456]

I was not expecting mahjong salt. That’s crazy. He was spitting tho

[@coreyodell6220]

"Guys I'm not a contrarian, I swear" -Coney, probably

[@IcyTorment]

10:36 yeah, this is one of the reasons why tracking streaks is generally a bad idea in games. It's basically the same reason why games got away from the escort missions that were so popular with game developers in the early 90s. Protecting your streak is frustrating. It may compel people to keep playing for a while, but as soon as the streak is broken, they're likely to ragequit.

[@a_RD_12]

Song at 8:01 is Night Walker (Linne’s Theme) from Under Night In-Birth

[@RunicSSB]

3:43 when you lose to a Stan main in American Dad VS Family Guy Kung Fu II Turbo

[@BENch_Gaming44444]

"Improving is unfair" Is a wild take

[@scottw7686]

Another hard watch. Great work once again, Coney!

[@sen_i_guess]

of course the guy who said improvement isn't fair is a ninja player only true hustlers will get this

[@witherkichian4867]

You know your scrub quote is bad when even Coney can't bullshit his way out for it.

[@yummynubs3646]

I don't know what that Mahjang player was yapping about, but he sure was spittin

[@DjayT.]

Coney trying out this video concept and than having to read the first 3 quotes is too perfect

[@BadMann3rs]

The improving is unfair guy and the mashing combos on your friend guy might be the same guy/argument lmao

[@cynical_perks8725]

Coney is the only person I can think of who would do this and I'd have to wonder if it's just for the content or because he's just that much a contrarian.

[@AWanderingSwordsman]

As someone that got very good at halo 3 back when it was originally released, people got VERY angry about it sometimes. COD lobbies had more trashtalk but halo had more hate. Never got so many death threats in another game although dark souls 1 PvP might have been close.

[@SpartanOfLuxon]

The Mahjong rage is wild, my mom plays mahjong on her phone to pass time during commercials, how does someone get that heavy into Mahjong?

[@sparki9085]

Homelander has a milk drinking win pose!?! WTF???

[@Deeziusmaxima]

Mahjong soul player here, he was spitting hard the game is giga luck based especially if you're playing east where there's only 4 rounds

[@icenovice]

i love how the second one threw him off so much that he forgot the point of the video and we just laughed at scrubs and had a good/concerned time

[@thefireofthefox1]

Nobody talking about how great that Mahjong rant was

[@toxic_shr00m]

As the chief scrub, you would defend them

[@Living_Target]

5:30 coney said + frames are illegal

[@wesjuice1124]

I'm gonna start saying people who beat me in games are feds

[@gatfatf]

Getting centuries old scrub quotes from The Ancestors is something special man

[@reagansido5823]

I love the "Its not a glitch its an exploit" clip so much. just sweet justice served to the living nerd emoji.

[@DittoTransform]

That mahjong section was so real though…

[@sharkyboss3d]

6:36 game is “Your Only Move is Hustle” if you’re interested.

[@sharkyboss3d]

Oh coney said it

[@Gohka]

I know how you make a fighting game "party mode". You put in a mode where only one button performs attacks and it picks randomly from ALL of your characters attacks whenever you press it.

[@aquamarinerose5405]

"Improving is not fair" is a ridiculous phrase in and of itself, but I think the core is more the sense that in many competitive games end up with 2 different fandoms who interact with the game in a completely different way. Like, Coney literally said it when he said that "it's why fighting games have like 800 players after a month" There's a barrier to entry for most big competitive games, ESPECIALLY fighting games, that ends up significantly harming the average player. Like, I was extremely excited to play Rivals of Aether a few years ago, instantly got stomped by the friend that suggested I play the game, and realized i would have to take like hundreds of hours to "Git Gud" before I could get to the part where I actually get to play. And, though not as extreme, even the Singleplayer content kinda assumes you've already played Melee and understand some complicated-ass core rules. Granted, RoA is also very kind as to teach you a few of these mechanics in tutorials, but I can understand the annoyance that comes from feeling like you have to basically block out 2-3 weeks labbing a game out before you can start playing against actual people. Hell, one of the things that made Smash so popular was the fact that it would often cater to the casual fans first and foremost with a wide variety of stages and items that make it that your DEEP KNOWLEDGE of the game was less important than your improvisation skills which you then supplement with character and matchup knowledge

[@aquamarinerose5405]

Addition: And where to an extent "Which audience do you cater to" is a question at the core of every competitive game.

[@MapleLunii]

That TF2 pyro clip had the same energy as Vinesauce turning off the voice settings in Viewfinder lmao

[@sparki9085]

Sadly, the "FGC is heavily tied to bankers" guy is likely trolling, as in one of his replies he tells people to google a mod that doesnt exist, because what he says to google is the name of a well known NSFW artist

[@Le_Dom]

I was hoping he was for real but then it got too over the top. Some rando believing the FGC is a money laundering scheme? That's plausible. No one can be delusional enough to wholeheartedly believe the CIA is involved and includes government sanctioned assassinations

[@elneco4654]

Yeah it's trolling, "bing bing wahoo" is a very /v/ term.

[@dbhDilemma]

This is my first Coney vid, I didn't realize HOW bald he is! Really good video tho, man :D

[@ShackSllayer]

This reminds of when I used to be really into smash ultimate. My friend would constantly complain that I was spamming tippers with Marth even though that’s how he is designed.

[@geurworx8164]

1:14 litterally every single comp yomih player has seen this now lol (including me) by just having yomih mentioned lol

[@martzle]

seeing coney recite mahjong terms was so funny man

[@ckorp666]

13:45 bones (the caster) does streams of random low level GGST replays and puts it on youtube, it's great content

[@AyyKayy-n3u]

The second scrub quote is fucking insane

[@hbudson1248]

1 view in 1 second, if Coney keeps up at this pace he'll get all the views forever!!!!

[@Lowqualitysoundtrack]

As a *very causal* fighting game player this is my take abt improvement.... this is a essay btw I don't think improvement is unfair to the average player because is everyone improving the more they play but also you're never gonna play someone that frequent enough that it would matter like if you lose a game and rematch its not like they can improve so much that they go from a 4 year old's skill level to Daigo's you guys will just both improve a little bit and one person who cares more about improving might improve more than you do in that time but that doesn't mean that they will win. There's a lot more factors than that that decide the result. For example even if you care about improving a ton you can still lose to somebody that doesn't care about improving just because they have more experience than you or found out something you could deal with. In my case typically whenever I really want to improve it comes from losing a bunch to the same guy and still not being sure of what I could of done differently, then I watch the replays and *don't* go into training mode. I just keep those things that I need to improve on in my mind. "Stop full screen eagle spiking it never works!" Most the time I still do it because its fun and I don't care enough abt wining to not, that's not unfair that my opponent is punishing it because if I cared enough id stop doing it. Basically what you put in is what you get out and if you're putting more in than what you think someone else is, it isnt unfair it just means they have more experiences than you and you will probably be better than them later. Regardless of who the players are every match is really a 50/50 because 1 of 2 results can happen. (sf6 is my main game, I play Rashid, he is awesome, use classic controls and I would rather die than use modern. I have 400 hours in causal match making and 40 hours in ranked, plat 1)

[@lancelee338]

14:05 when I’d play smash with my roommates I’d play with my eyes closed unless I could tell I was knocked offstage to even the playing field. I still won occasionally. They complained it wasn’t fair because I had muscle memory for the game and they didn’t

[@gabrielraposo1466]

The last one is so true for smash, I used to compete and was kinda good but playing online just feels like a whole diferent game where it's best for you to just spam laggy strong moves and hope that they cannot punish due to lag

[@gooetooe]

Loved this video. Hope it becomes a series. 👏

[@Gxmwp]

"there are so many words on the planet to choose" I think this argument is funny because they did choose a word that exists on the planet. I think he's trying to say "an English word", but is accidentally making his argument sound dumb 😂 Though, it wasn't really off to a food start when he said "Woordle shouldn't pick words people don't know". How're they supposed to know what words people do and don't know???

[@FYGUnkleUrple]

17:44 The "Why did you guys make King good?" T8 debate in a nutshell.

[@YuriHabadakas]

Aww the guy ranting about the CIA torturing him with infrared beams sounds like he's legitimately got schizophrenia or something. I genuinely feel bad for him :(

[@Sonick92]

When you and your friends only play fighting games when together, then you get "good" together. When 1 or 2 practice outside the group, then it ruins the comradarie.

[@Spammit-ye4vw]

random story, I had an art teacher who was an FBI "puppet" not like how you'd think, she was helping them train for the olympics in atlanta. they would just give her a message telling her: go here, hang out for 2 minutes, walk here, go there, do this, buy a newspaper, leave and then they'd ask her if she noticed anyone suspicious basically also @18:20 this is one of my favorite genres of sentences

[@FortyPerc]

I love the editor using Night Walker from Under Night

[@OctopusWilson]

The best way to reach the guy who complains about the eye lasers or some other thing they can't beat and call spam, is to hand hold them through how to beat that option. Using it over and over and telling them to learn or hoping they will is only going to piss them off like this

[@greenoftreeblackofblue6625]

Coney is the scrub Crusher after all. The high I.Q. take is being a scrub and beating that shit off.

[@elneco4654]

I mean, I'm not sure if that last sentence has worked for DSP in the last couple years.

[@greenoftreeblackofblue6625]

That's a pretty good joke you get a +2 ​@@elneco4654

[@VitaEmerald324]

I thought this was going to be about the show Scrubs for a while lmao

[@ExaltedUriel]

I love the Mahjong one being included because it gives the FGC people a little taste of their own medicine of people casually throwing out terms assuming you know what they mean, lol

[@SquibbyJ]

TF2 Medieval Mode is my ideal team fighting game. Like when theres a better player in the lobby I just gotta find a couple of guys to jump him yknow

[@Murks33]

When it comes to the first one, the added context of it being about Y.O.M.I. Hustle introduces the conundrum that the game is not that serious. Sure there's people who take it seriously and the dev has made efforts to make it a balanced "fighting game", but at the end of the day it's a cool turn-based stick fight simulator and degenerate "optimal" play is categorically uncool and therefore fuck em.

[@Waysterself]

Alright here’s my scrub quote. In guilty gear strive, throw is a 2 frame move so you can throw someone as you wake up after a knockdown. That means if you want to close slash then it’s a frame perfect attack and I suck on both ends. Trying to be the one throwing and being the one attacking.

[@Idranim]

Funniest shit ever is the clip of a sea of thieves dev lecturing some players for attacking them basically saying “do you know who I am” and slightly threading to ban them

[@BasicallyGoblin]

For the love of god, make this a series