I unironically think the MC140 is amazing (and silly)

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@Exospray
@Exospray 3 күн бұрын
I feel like the mc140 was a personification of new rebel/new republic doctrine of fast mobile ships that could get in, overwhelm the enemy shields and destroy them in a single fast pass rather than slugging it out in a battle line. It's a useful strategy if you have a lot of territory to cover and only so many ships
@_byron_0
@_byron_0 3 күн бұрын
I absolutely love the legacy era. It’s really underrated. Could you make a video about the Pellaeon class star destroyer?
@cmasjoan7333
@cmasjoan7333 3 күн бұрын
I like how the Alliance/New Republic ships are often designed as an answer to Imperial designs. Things like the Starhawk or the MC30 and how they're optimized to specifically go against Star Destroyers. It's like rock paper scissors where the Star Destroyer is a great design for most purposes, but is weak to ships designed to go against it.
@inductivegrunt94
@inductivegrunt94 3 күн бұрын
Not the biggest fan of the MC140, but the ability to get in and dump so much firepower on a single target before rocketing away is really cool. Silly in design, amazing in practice.
@chrisheitstuman6360
@chrisheitstuman6360 3 күн бұрын
I think the big blade was someone's idea to harken back to all the hammerhead designs of the Old Republic. The strengths are also its weakness. It has lots of weapons forward at the cost of little surface area it has to defend. Once however they aren't in a head on battle or even retreating, or heaven for if have an opponent above or below them, the ship would be in serious trouble. An Ardent or Pelleon only has to roll to bring its major batteries to bear against an opponent except for behind it, the MC140 though has to turn in a completely new direction.
@sumukhvmrsat6347
@sumukhvmrsat6347 Күн бұрын
Only reason I can find as excuse are 1. The weaponry is longer in length or needs to be separated from the ship due to radiation or etc , as it is very advanced and maybe longer range 2.Treaty ship ? Maybe it had limitations to face like Lenght and width limitations and a fin like structure was excused as Mon cala styling design element ? Or the fin also doubles as a massive shield generator shaped like a axe or blade , which is more concentrated at a needed point and less area etc also maybe useful for ramming g other ships😂🎉
@chrisheitstuman6360
@chrisheitstuman6360 Күн бұрын
@sumukhvmrsat6347 #2 maybe, but doubtful as the Pelleon's were longer and had more mass (tonnage) (more powerful internals, weapons, power banks etc etc). Cooling maybe, but doubtful. Shielding the blade is just adding more surface area compared to what would already be on the hull and the weapons could be mounted in a brim trench style and have all forward with better side arcs. Long range turbos would have been standard at this time and no radiation has ever been expressed as a concern that hasn't been overcome, even on weapons far larger. Not bad thoughts, but I think it just boils down to someone thinking that the blades look "cool" without thinking about a ship might function in combat, or being to linear thinking and only picturing it being used in a singular way. Singular purpose thinking then gets taken apart by the community in general who constantly think of ways to break artists or authors toys, or how to use them in a different way.
@salenereaper
@salenereaper 3 күн бұрын
YES, YOU’RE DOING LEGACY ERA STUFF! Makes me happy..and i love this damn scythe!
@JKrow21
@JKrow21 3 күн бұрын
It's got that awkward yet iconic look that I love from Star Wars
@austinguthrie5528
@austinguthrie5528 3 күн бұрын
I absolutely loved most Legacy Era ships! Underrated Era in my opinion. Love me that Palleon class
@Arashmickey
@Arashmickey 2 күн бұрын
Hmm... maybe the secret rule of power scaling in Star Wars is that if it looks it could try spinning that's a good trick, it gets a huge power boost. The Falcon, the X-Wing, the Naboo Fighter of course, they're pretty strong. Most ships can't pull it off, they look too weird trying to spin fast: TIE's, Star Destroyers, Lucrehulks. Death Stars get dunked on they can't spin if their life depended on it. Most blimps can do a defensive spin though, while the MC140 looks like a pro at spinning.
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 3 күн бұрын
I love that ship design
@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462
@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 2 күн бұрын
3:04 That's interesting and a design error on the Pellaeon in that panel. It doesnt have a bulge where its reactor would jut out. As for the scythe as I suggested to Eck all those years ago, flip the blade horizontally and move the hangars to the ventral part of the ship. Get rid of the firing turbolaser battery row grooves and stud the damn thing with 360⁰ turrets.
@simon2493
@simon2493 2 күн бұрын
This is actually peak design as far as star wars goes, and no concentrating all of the fire power in the front shouldn't be a problem with how big in ships numbers battles should be in star wars. When you have thousands of ships under your command even individual ships don't matter, if the enemy detached force is trying to flank you then you send out your detached force to face them frontally, negating any weakness that comes from singular ship design.
@ethancolebarrett
@ethancolebarrett 3 күн бұрын
What if the MC140 Scythe's front "bladed" part was a massive Vibroblade? Like stick a vibroblade generator, sharpen it and reinforce it, and you have a powerful ramship. Get the weapon systems all around the ship like most warships, and you have a horrifying ship capable of "beheading" enemy capital ships. I can see many mercenaries remaking this thing and using it to conduct pirate raids on New Republic and Imperial Remnant ships.
@Core-1948
@Core-1948 3 күн бұрын
This is why I like guided missile systems, don’t need to aim turrets if the weapon can fire and hit from any direction. (Yes there are still PDCs around the hull)
@Zombotron5678
@Zombotron5678 2 күн бұрын
I wonder how the MC100-MC130 would have looked, bridging the design jump between the MC90 and MC140.
@davidponseigo8811
@davidponseigo8811 2 күн бұрын
I never liked the MC-140 previously but after this video I'm giving it another chance.
@UncleMikeDrop
@UncleMikeDrop 3 күн бұрын
Shouldn't long range weaponry be a priority particularly after a war with enemies who could strip away shields at close range?
@sumukhvmrsat6347
@sumukhvmrsat6347 Күн бұрын
Yeah but the long fin wasn't necessary , i thought that too separated lenghty barrel structures , but they can be mounted around the ship not like a fin
@alfieingrouille1528
@alfieingrouille1528 3 күн бұрын
I love the legacy era Darth krayt is my favourite star wars character of all time
@Alexzander1989
@Alexzander1989 3 күн бұрын
Personally I prefer the Imperial Ships when it comes to the Legacy Era
@lokix920strike
@lokix920strike 2 күн бұрын
Realized it might work if the weapons were too large to turret mount on a ship this small.
@sumukhvmrsat6347
@sumukhvmrsat6347 Күн бұрын
Keep then on the hull then , around the hull
@lokix920strike
@lokix920strike Күн бұрын
@@sumukhvmrsat6347 That still requires a bigger hull if it were a conventional ship design. This puts as much/many guns as possible on as small/cheap a ship as possible. You could argue the doctrine of this over fewer higher powered guns though, but if torpedoes are a major part than you want as many to fire at once.
@sumukhvmrsat6347
@sumukhvmrsat6347 Күн бұрын
@@lokix920strike nope , all the original guns turrets will be replaced with the fixed larger guns , and if needed only a small amount of width on the sides will be increased and they will be focused tp the front , the guns were placed on the spine , so the width of the guns cant be more than the spine , same with the torpedoes , only a fraction of armor and shielding needed for an extra spine is needed for the gaps between the existing armor due to increased weaponry size inside the hull ,
@dustybricks113
@dustybricks113 3 күн бұрын
As one who likes the hammerhead style of ships it is a nice ship In my opinion 😊
@RickRichard-s6t
@RickRichard-s6t 3 күн бұрын
I remember it from my old dark horse comics
@bioboy1819
@bioboy1819 2 күн бұрын
I’ve always loved the legacy designs, especially the MC140 and the Pallaeon.
@hawkegarret7678
@hawkegarret7678 3 күн бұрын
Do the imperious class next please or the eclipse class
@viatorius
@viatorius 3 күн бұрын
Hello! Are you planning to make a video about the Pellaeon and Imperious class? Because I think these are the best ships of this era.
@triviszla1536
@triviszla1536 Күн бұрын
Looks like they tried copying the hammerhead corvette
@johnmasters1825
@johnmasters1825 3 күн бұрын
Did you do a video on the viscount
@toddsilverwolfe
@toddsilverwolfe 3 күн бұрын
Idk, I think it looks fine. I'm not really picky about ship designs so long as it can be explained functionally. Doesn't seem hand-wavy or anything.
@henrysmith893
@henrysmith893 Күн бұрын
If the ship was longer I think it would look a lot better
@stars9084
@stars9084 2 күн бұрын
#MetaNerdz Excellent as always, sad to think we’re running out of Mon Cal ships. Can you do the Viscount while you’re at them? I’d love to hear your take on her
@kennedyjoseph7398
@kennedyjoseph7398 3 күн бұрын
This is one of my favorite ships
@Dra58
@Dra58 2 күн бұрын
What mod is that at 1:20 as i didnt know their was a yuu zan war mod
@xXG0SHAWKXx
@xXG0SHAWKXx 2 күн бұрын
what Empire at War mod is that at 6:33
@MagnoliaNox
@MagnoliaNox 2 күн бұрын
It's really cool, I like the design, I dont see the issue
@miafillene4396
@miafillene4396 Сағат бұрын
Also rememeber that each battery is composed of multiple guns. Anywhere from four to eight on average.
@neves5083
@neves5083 3 күн бұрын
It's looks is one of my favorite from these new mon cal ships
@Gigas0101
@Gigas0101 2 күн бұрын
I do love how the expanded universe has very stupid things like this, and those hideous fighters meant to accompany them.
@Anonymous_glitch
@Anonymous_glitch 3 күн бұрын
I think something that new Star Wars Fans or People that only watch Star Wars. Don't see as how the rebellion actually was. The rebellion was this large ass organization, they needed specialized ships for specific purposes and their doctrine. It's not no little resistance Like Harry Potters, you're talking about billions if not trillions of people who are supporting the rebellion's cause. They had entire factories in corporations that supported them. And I understand for people who are getting new into star wars, but I do hate explaining that it isn't as small as what it seems on the t v
@jh1958txstate
@jh1958txstate Күн бұрын
love your videos 👍
@CT-0290
@CT-0290 3 күн бұрын
Could you make a video of the Swamp Speeder in the future? ?
@WhoisPersona
@WhoisPersona 3 күн бұрын
Klingons would love this ship.
@reginaldshort8486
@reginaldshort8486 2 күн бұрын
I don’t like the look of the MC140 but it’s so obviously a descendant of the Mon Cal ships of old I can’t help but respect it.
@AjaxMavrick
@AjaxMavrick 3 күн бұрын
No way...
@henrysmith893
@henrysmith893 Күн бұрын
How many weapons are in a battery
@Clonezack
@Clonezack 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for saying original cannon and not legends.
@darkreflection9087
@darkreflection9087 2 күн бұрын
Look at Fallout Securitron
@59rlmccormack
@59rlmccormack 54 минут бұрын
Oh me oh my…
@sumukhvmrsat6347
@sumukhvmrsat6347 Күн бұрын
It seems Mon cala ships BROADSIDE with enemy ships most of time Things MC140 FAILS at 0. The spine thing needs extra armor and shields along with the shield and armor needed for the bulbous hull , basically doubling or tripling 1.Traditional Mon Calamari Aquatic streamlined Bulbous design with balanced weapons placement 2. Giving proper reason to deviation (changing) from traditional mon cala design 2.1 Cross of fire ? Turrets can do that on blisters 2.2 Hammerhead ? The Main hull is still exposed 2.3 Long ranger or Blade shield technology ? Not mentioned anywhere 2.4 something new and refreshing ? It definely costed lots of money and tine and new infrastructure and design reaserching for that long asse spine for no single thing that a traditional mon cala design cant do 3. COOLNESS factor (cool looking design ) fails 4.traditional Strong shields and hull capable of taking punishment is now forward focused on a fucking spine or double on whole ship 5. Cant shoot anywhere other than front on straight line , Thrawn can use old victory class star destroyers with a interdictor and tactical jump to the sides or above and below of a mc140 or a fleet of mc140s and by constantly moving to stick to thier side can kill them easily like he did in legends Last Command book Battle of coruscant with the Golan platforms
@sumukhvmrsat6347
@sumukhvmrsat6347 Күн бұрын
Maybe if this was a specialised sniper ship ,then cool , but all the ships are like this ,
@BASBALLmagic
@BASBALLmagic 3 күн бұрын
Did bro fall off 😢
@AhmedHussain-ju6xd
@AhmedHussain-ju6xd 3 күн бұрын
Mc140 isn't a desgin I like. It just doesn't look practical at all.
@aku896
@aku896 4 күн бұрын
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@harrysmith1711
@harrysmith1711 3 күн бұрын
Personally, I like this cruiser and the Pellaeon class star destroyer, but the legacy era starfighters look terrible! The CF9 Crossfire, X-83 TwinTail and Predator-class fighters are all downgrades in their respective fighter lineages in my book
@SPAMTONGSPAMTON-uw5wf
@SPAMTONGSPAMTON-uw5wf 3 күн бұрын
[No] [No] NOOOO THE [MC 140] IS THE [Worst Designed] SHIP. ALL THOSE [Pew Pews] ARE ALL ON THE [Blade]
@marcosbravo9645
@marcosbravo9645 3 күн бұрын
The weapons on the blade can only fire forward, right? At least there isn't an instance of them firing in other directions. Rubbing salt on the wound here but it really doesn't make sense. Against a big target the maneuverability is useless, and it has about 1/27 the volume of the Palleon, I seriously doubt taking them head on is an effective strategy. Against smaller and equally agile targets it is at a disadvantage because most guns are fixed. While half of the enemy's guns can fire, only 20% of theirs can. The same can be said about fighter defense, it evidently doesn't have enough. It takes all the problems of the ISD, makes them worse and removes the durability.
@omega13whitelucario95
@omega13whitelucario95 3 күн бұрын
Tbh I'm more neutral on this ship *looks at the starfighters* you on the other hand I hate this design ans concept so much Legit like why? What even is the point of the x foils being in the front of the ship?
@sulljoh1
@sulljoh1 3 күн бұрын
Eck explained why we should hate this ship You haven't offered sufficient reasons to overturn his judgement
@alfieingrouille1528
@alfieingrouille1528 2 күн бұрын
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@incogni-bro8276
@incogni-bro8276 2 күн бұрын
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