I've Been EFAPed

[@superkamikiller]

Some of the biggest review channels on KZbin attack you and your response is here's my name, learn it because you'll hear it again. What a badass response. Keep it up.

[@rocklemillion8041]

Yh that was his response… outside of where he agreed constantly that he worded things poorly and that they were correct.

[@datboi42]

@@rocklemillion8041you’re defending the people behaving like jerks? You must be a loyal fan of them. There’s no way you watched this whole video and that’s what you’re saying in the comments lol

[@just13rain]

Attacked 😂

[@riddlemethis8259]

​@datboi42 criticism isn't an attack unless you're calling him a soy boy that can't handle it?

[@tumulovermelho93]

At the end of the day, don't let their video get to you. You've improved at a rocket's pace since your first essay and has quickly become a favorite for MCU critiques. Can't wait for Part 3 of the Villains analysis.

[@brandishaccount5439]

Not taking that, this is sure proof that MauLer and his friends are just bullies thank to their group think. For a time their reaction to this guy's video used to be among my favorite "episodes", mostly because of how much fun the group would have saying witty banter and playingg off each other, stuff, but this video just showcases that their way of viewing content is constantly sabatoged by their own biases and method of pausing to cut off the points of the video maker's point. MauLer and Co always talk down to the videos they watch and how they should pursue and reflect on context, only for them to strip it all at times when watching the video. If many of the EFAP apologists admit that the EFAP hosts and guests constantly fumble in their watchthroughs of these kinds of videos, then what chance can ANY EFAP watching defender can hope to stand on any leg when dealing with the Southpaw/S.K./Thumpcast debacle. At this point I am fully convinced on why the EFAP hosts are plain cowards, they refuse to reach out to this guy who is a fan, in a meeting that will surely redeem both parties, but refuse cuz they don't care or don't want to ruin their image with how much they fumbled on this one. It surely explains why they'll keep away from the likes of S.K. who has already annihilated many of their way of makibg points.

[@claytonhughes5256]

What are you talking about?? Every video this guy has put out is pure gold. He was great right out of the shoot. I'm not sure what qualifies you to look down on any of his videos. Unless you're the guy from then nerdrotic trying to act like jealous big brother.

[@gurigura4457]

Really nice to see a reasoned response to EFAP for once. Having watched them over the years, I do think they've gotten more mean spirited/more focused on insult than criticism. It would be interesting to see a response from EFAP, although the cynic in me says they'd either avoid it (because you're too reasonable) or make even worse faith arguments than the original. Pretty crappy of them to not shout out your channel, especially since they made that exact criticism of Hasan last year. That said, you might want to link their video in question in the description. Being able to look at your own work & say "actually, this isn't as good as it could have been" is a great trait for a creator to have. Even though I think you were pushing a bit too hard for Cap to have his own moment in some sections, I suspect you would have been satisfied with any one of those moments rather than all of them. If that's the case, I agree.

[@SmartAlec1]

Yeah EFAP is pretty criminally hypocritical. They accuse others of taking them out of context while their whole show is just them reacting to people's statements before they can finish their sentence. Mauler mad at Dunkey for going after a smaller channel and sending harassment their way, EFAP does it all the time including to that Cinematic Venom guy who was an actual nobody who got crap for a bad LOTR review for years. Even mocking others for deleting their past comments while also... deleting their past comments.

[@Jay9966]

​@@SmartAlec1This is what happens when a bunch of people who grew big from malicious videos group together and redirect their maliciousness from big greedy corporations to fellow content creators. I've watched Rags and Mauler. The tone they use in their videos are extremely juvenile and toxic. It's all fun and games until they use that tone on everyone instead of just big corporations.

[@blooocki]

​@@SmartAlec1oh noes you sent your hate squat Oh noes he didn't credit us It's always like this xD

[@brandishaccount5439]

​@@blooocki So you admit EFAP and their hosts had done these things and can be very pig-like in how they do the very things they police others for doing, ie not giving link or credit. Granted MauLer and Gamg's coverage seemed to have gotten the result they did cuz MauLer happened upon it, wanted to have a laugh, and all were drunk and not giving the video their 100 percent, but still. At the time their coverage was hilarious, now it agedlike milk tha KS to this video response.

[@SmartAlec1]

@@blooocki glad we agreed it’s a common issue

[@GT_rising24]

I find your critiques interesting and i hope your videos continue

[@Max-zr7jf]

I like essays such as yours, where the material is properly deconstructed, because I like storytelling, and so it's interesting and educational. Lately I've grown bored of most other channels because although I do enjoy some poking fun at the faults of these films, I feel most reviewers cross the line into the mean spirited area as it is clearly shown here. They are not doing a critique on your content, they are just mocking you for internet points. Your work is not only nicely done, but it also feels fresh to me. Keep it up!

[@jaredmartin2003]

What I like about this video is that Braeden is able to to defend his point while also admitting that he could’ve done a better job with the initial video.

[@victortachiquin4965]

And in general what I really like about his reviews is that if there is a good part of the movie he says so

[@ab-gail]

He’s got a lot of humility and honesty. Very good traits to have!

[@therrfuin7897]

Im a huge fan of maulers solo content but have avoided EFAP like the plague specifically because of stuff like this, great response

[@Kabal39]

Cringe

[@Groggle7141]

EFAP is usually not so rude like this. I'd say watch their Patrick Willems videos

[@bigjawline9235]

@@Kabal39 if ur saying this as an efap fan this is very ironic lmao

[@Kabal39]

@@bigjawline9235 how

[@captainkizer]

It's really refreshing to see a video essay channel that doesn't pad out the video with useless content. Whenever you cover something, you're never like "alright since we're covering captain america we're gonna start at the inception of comics".

[@captainkizer]

Also you're funny as fuck

[@johnnycrown5097]

I don't see that as bad... You get to learn a lot... I actually like everyone on EFAP and their contents, you know, when they still made content... They've fallen into the well of Livestream and left the people that made them blow for the people with excess time enough to listen to a 10hours Livestream whereby 40% of it has nothing to do with the stuff they're criticking and are just random conversations and inside jokes that I have to watch other 10hours Livestream to understand... And the irritating way they pause every two seconds and comment over something that was just said even if the context is coming because they didn't watch the video before hand which would become irritating to the viewers who they tell to watch the videos first or have already watched these videos before watching the Livestream... Just imagine how irritating it is to listen to a group of people unedited spewing their first thought out without any order by isolating 2 seconds of the video they're criticking especially when you know that they're wrong because of the context ahead... It really gets to me... Mauler disappointed me with this EFAP... He just left his channel on pause for years with a lot of projects not being completed for over 3yrs now, only to spend more than 10hours everyday livestreaming on EFAP with subpar content and no edit or professionalism whereby only like 20% of the 10hours is him talking about the topic at hand and the remaining is spread amongst people I don't give a shit about or even care for saying their own first thought with no research or deep scrutiny or critical thoughts done on it... All because of superchats money... Now, they're turning into the people they all started KZbin channels to dethrone... Money in entertainment is sure a scary thing... Which is why I'm afraid of starting my animation and comic story telling channel until I can get a new generation of like minded KZbinrs to keep me motivated to continue video essays so I don't succumb to livestreams only... People like braeden alberti... If you don't understand why I need like minded KZbinrs who are still making video essays, it's because the previous generation waste most of their days on this goddamn EFAP or similar livestreams like them so how would I get to cooperate with any of them to promote the channel apart from hoping that Livestream audiences can decide to come to my channel after 10hours of watching a Livestream... I think I've found enough KZbinrs and just like mauler did when he first started, it's time to dethrone these people...

[@moonstruck6591]

@@johnnycrown5097 Dear, Johnny Crown I never realized how much I hated ellipsis spam until today. You have easily one of the most obnoxious typing styles I've seen to date. It's like the way you type is designed to get people irrationally angry. I have nothing I'd like to say regarding the actual details of what you typed. Yours Truly, Mike Palmer.

[@johnnycrown5097]

@@moonstruck6591 dear dumbass... That's a stupid argument... You saw my response to someone else, couldn't read it but could tell it was obnoxious and you needed a target, so you chose ellipses... Going after the way I write instead of my arguments, I'm pretty that's basically like going after my looks rather than my arguments in a face to face conversation... Are these the fans mauler gave up his principles to cultivate??? People he disliked and started his KZbin journey to combat... How ironic... Considering I didn't write the comment for you, it's non of my business if you don't... In fact, you just helped me prove your level of stupidity by calling me obnoxious without even reading my comment... I wonder what then you're calling obnoxious and I'd advise you not to be further stupid by repeating the ellipses line, it's not the own you think you random pretentious braindead stranger... I remember when mauler fought against people like you, people who have a response before engaging the content and cherrypick stupid things to go after rather than the main argument... Turns out EFAP hasn't only buried mauler buy has given him the type of pretentious fans who just want confirmation bias and go searching for people that disagree with EFAP to antagonize without bothering with their content... You're a perfect example of mauler dropping his principles... It's sad he sold his integrity for braindead fiends like you who have nothing to add in this world and are only alive as a pointless antagonist to humans... You're as pointless as your pointless comment... Please for your own sake, drop your device, go outside and see that life isn't all about EFAP's dick and stop going to videos you know are criticking your favorite channel, the center of your life, just to go comment pointless things without bothering to go after their arguments or even read it, get mauler alone and he also would be disgusted by that attitude... Enjoy your pointlessness, you subordinate of a weed... By the way, the ellipses is how I control my OCD... I've got Asperger's... That's why I type a lot because that's how I've been communicating throughout my life... I normally don't tell people this but I want you to feel like a dick specifically...

[@webbedshadow2601]

EXACTLY that's why I like this guy, I don't have the time anymore to watch drawn out critic videos that take too long to say what they're trying to say, whether that's on purpose to get more watch time, or they're just bad at critiquing

[@ErrorCrew1]

Good on you mate for sticking up for yourself👌🏼

[@pootis4986]

Never thought I'd see nerdrotic take Joss Whedon's side

[@SpFlash1523]

Same. But then again, he also says he enjoys Zack Snyder's DCEU movies.

[@glyph241]

You had me at Captain America… I have a shield 🛡️ sticker in my cupholder currently that I am deciding what to do with, I guess we’ll see. Thanks 🙏

[@Μ.Ζ-ρ4π]

He's an idiot no doubt he would take Josh Whedon 's side

[@Μ.Ζ-ρ4π]

He's a dumb grifter . That's on you for trusting him

[@davemac9563]

Well Joss Whedon is horrible, and so is Nerdrotic, doesn’t seem too off to me

[@thusspokethestruggler]

I'm a huge fan of a lot of the creators on EFAP (Shad, Mauler, ER, Rags, Drinker, etc). But I honestly agree a lot with your points about Avengers specifically. When I was younger and The First Avenger had came out (I'm a big Captain America fan), I used to watch it religiously. I've probably seen it an unhealthy amount of times. That being said The Avengers was ALSO one that I did the same thing for once I got the movie on Blu-ray. Captain America, when comparing his first solo outing to Winter Soldier, feels like a rollercoaster. He goes from being a plucky underdog, to a plucky average dude with some special juice, to a badass covert soldier who truly fits the bill of both captain and super soldier in one package. Captain America is NOT a bully. He straight up shows this in First Avenger and how much he abhors using physical violence as a tactic. He also, in that same movie, goes through what I call his "douchebag arc" after he is recognized and respected finally. He lets it get to his head for a time until the death of Bucky. After that he reaffirms his previous self, kills the ego, and becomes the true Captain. So to use the excuse of "this is back when you would get decked for talking bad to a woman" hurts his original character building. I have TONS more I can use to correlate this, but it would require more characters then this can handle nor anyone reading would care to read. Then you have The Avengers. I think, in my own opinion mind you, that he has really only had three moments that really spoke to his character. The first was him standing up to Thor and Tony when they first captured Loki. That is absolutely a thing Captain America does. But he should have gained some respect from Black Widow for stopping them. That should have been a POSITIVE moment that changed some minds. Not just back to judging him. The second was him calling Tony out. You are utterly correct that Tony's immaturity and ego should have been the divide in this and been where Steve shined. He not only has experience in the military, but has the moral conviction to do whatever it takes. Something Tony could have easily mimicked and embodied in his space nuke scene. This would have brought the "son he never had" moment full circle. Proving that, when Tony is serious and puts aside his ego, he is just as brave as Cap. Even just for that single moment. Not to say he ISN'T, but it would be clear how Tony's intelligence and Steve's experience and courage go hand-in-hand. The third would be "Avengers Assemble" scene where they all stand on the bridge and Steve orders them all. This was his swan song for that whole movie. Steve, by his nature, isn't super powered. He has the serum yes, but it amplifies his pre-existing traits. Just like the good doctor explained "It enhances and brings out the best and worst in people". That's why Tony was wrong when he said "all that was special about you came out of a bottle", because it diminishes Tony's creditability because we know that's not true. Because the bottle just ENHANCED Steve. This puts him above the superpowered demi-gods and gamma saturated dudes because he was already a hero before the serum. So him naturally taking command and them listening should have been earned. It didn't feel that way by the time it happened. Just felt like they needed him to be that, so we as the audience had to go "yeah, he is the leader in most media" and thus we suspended our disbelief. We ignored his previous portrayals because, funnily enough, we needed to confirm that bias. We knew Steve had to be leader, so we just went "Yup, there he is. That's our dude." without asking if it felt deserved. WE know it's deserved as fans. But do the average movie watchers think so? If you look at the moments where he is undermined, would someone who knows nothing about Captain America feel the same? I know this was a long post but I have deeply been invested in the MCU since I was nine years old. I'm twenty-three now and I know exactly how it feels to put the older movies on a pedestal because you've become disheartened by the current state of media in general. But just because you like something doesn't mean you can't critically look at it. I'm sure someone, with too much time I'm afraid, read this and already poked fifteen trillion holes into my points or ripped me apart for my opinions. But these are just that. Opinions on choices made in a movie from eleven years ago. I brought up objective moments and said my peace on it. I still love this movie. But EFAP did your video dirty and in bad faith. I only recently found your channel, but now you got a subscriber out of me. Keep making the videos you wanna make. I love those guys, but only by themselves and in moderation. Don't even get me started on Shad's countless KZbin whining videos. The guy makes amazing medieval weapon and fight breakdowns, but he isn't without sin. That's the problem with popularity. You begin to think you know better then others. Just sad to see it happen like that.

[@chickenLegs19]

Well said my dude. This video and your comment has actually made me want to do an mcu marathon, because I too, just like you, grew up with these heroes. I was 8 when Iron man came out and now I'm 22. Although I have decided to stop watching any more of the mcu because they have abandoned good story telling, and classic tale of a hero, for unnecessary representation, or to say "white man bad". Well atleast we still have the near perfect Infinity Saga.

[@chupppy2086]

I personally saw the moment he took lead as they have no idea what to do in this situation and they look for the man who has lived longer and is good outside and in but yeah it does kinda come out of no where since we don’t really get a set up for a leader to the team but that just My opinion and you did a great job at with this comment well done my man

[@kingawesome5219]

Don’t see how really anyone who has watched these movies recently or remember them well would agree with this video. It kinda feels you got the wrong read on Steve’s progression in First Avenger or from First Avenger to Winter Soldier. I can agree that he was a plucky underdog but he doesn’t become a plucky average dude with special juice. First Avenger makes it clear that Steve is the perfect candidate because of his pluckiness and principles by having Dr Erskine state that the serum enhances traits that are already present. The badass covert soldier part happens almost immediately after saving Bucky and the others from the factory. I agree that Steve isn’t a bully but he doesn’t show or indicate that he abhors violence, he just doesn’t want to actively hurt or kill people but knows he is going to have to when the situation calls for it like when fighting a war, saving people, or sticking to his values. This was made clear when he first meets Dr Erskine and he is asked if he is joining to kill axis soldiers. I also wouldn’t call the arc that he went on as the “douchebag arc,” while I agree that an arc in the movie is that he gets recognized for his abilities and respected by those around him he doesn’t let that get to his head. It’s kinda made apparent that Steve doesn’t care about the awards and popularity when he misses his ceremony in order to inform Carter and the Colonel of the Hydra factories he saw mapped out and getting his new shield. Bucky’s death didn’t make Steve reaffirm his old self or become a true Captain, if anything the event made him kinda vengeful because now Hydra has taken the life of someone close to him. “So to use the excuse of ‘this is back when you would get decked for talking bad to a woman,’ hurts his original character building.” 24:40 Braeden says it seems beneath someone like Captain American to resort to physical threats. That comment from Shad in defense of the scene is basically that Steve came from a time where you had to back up what you say with actions, if you’re going to say something bad about a woman then expect to get in a fight because of it. Steve threatening Tony not only makes sense because its Steve’s character to call out someone who he finds disrespectful or immature but he is being affected by the mind stone in the scepter, which is part of Loki’s plan to split up the Avengers. It is indeed your opinion that you only see three moments in Avengers where Cap shines for you. I disagree with your opinion and think that nearly every scene he’s in speaks about his character. I agree that his scene with Thor and Tony in the forest is a moment where he stands out. While the primary goal was to get Loki back, Cap thought it would be best to defuse the conflict between Tony and Thor so that everyone could achieve their goals. He stands out in this scene not just because he is challenging beings who are far stronger than him, but because he is doing what he thinks is right and is trying to stop Thor peacefully (even though that failed). A few scenes around this point I think stand out are his entrance in Germany where he saved the old man, his line about him disagreeing and fighting someone who was standing above others the last time he was there (could actually be referring to Red Skull or Hitler), his fight with Loki, how he thinks Loki’s capture was too easy twice (once right after his capture and again after Fury talks to Loki), and him comparing the scepter to the Hydra weapons based on how it functions. I don’t see why we need a scene where Black Widow gains respect for Cap there, because I don’t see how she disrespected him or didn’t respect him to begin with. It looks like she just warned and advised Cap not to fight Thor because she is looking out for him and thinks Thor would prove too much. The second moment you are mentioning is kinda confusing because you seem to be simultaneously agreeing and disagreeing with Efap and Braeden. The argument between everyone should’ve been the divide between Steve and Tony because of their conflicting personalities and grudges being enhanced by the mind stone, which was part of Loki’s plan but it failed because everyone was concerned about an agitated Bruce picking up the scepter and the subsequent attack on the helicarrier. I don’t know what having military experience and having moral conviction has to do with Steve and Tony butting heads and even then I think it’s better to describe Steve as self-sacrificial than having the moral conviction to do whatever it takes since he is shown to draw lines; criticizing SHIELD for using the tesseract and Hydra tech to make more weapons for example. Tony did prove Cap wrong about not being the one to make the sacrifice play, he took the nuke to stop the invasion even though it may cost him his life and there seemingly wasn’t any other way to save the day. I don’t know what the “son he never had” thing is you’re talking about. Only thing I can assume you’re talking about is Tony’s jealousy of Cap because of Howard Stark’s relationship to them but it just seems like Howard and Cap were just good friends, not some kind of father-son relationship. For the third moment Cap is super powered because of the serum, that’s just a fact. Yes, the serum amplifies existing traits but it also adds on new traits and cured Cap of his health issues. There is also room to say that Cap was a hero before the serum because he was willing to put himself in harms way for others. Yeah Tony is wrong when he made that bottle comment, it’s because we the audience and Cap know about his origins and that we have information to believe that Tony just said to get under Cap’s skin because of the mind stone and his jealousy towards Cap, regardless of him actually believing what he said. Cap loses credibility the same way Tony does because he claims Tony is just pretending to be a hero, only cares about himself, and is nothing special without his suits. Cap is wrong because we know Tony’s journey but it makes sense for him to see Tony as a selfish and immature playboy who wants to blow stuff up because that is how Tony acts in this movie and possibly from the footage Cap said he watched of Tony. How is Cap taking command and everyone listening to him not feel earned? If Cap has been undermined as a character or the movie was poorly written and contrived then I can agree but the movie already presents information/clues that supports why Cap being the leader makes sense or feels earned. “We ignored his previous portrayals because, funnily enough, we needed to confirm that bias.” I have no idea what that means. I doubt average movie watchers would think Cap taking charge would feel earned, same way goes with them thinking Cap was undermined. That’s because I don’t think that is something average watchers would think about when watching a movie. I guess I ripped apart your opinions, it’s because I disagree with them and find it interesting to break things down and see how it does or doesn’t work. I disagree that they are just opinions though. People think and act on opinions they hold and opinions they hear. What you do based on those opinions will then have an effect on the world and others. If Efap did Braeden dirty and in bad faith, I have yet to see it and Braeden is starting to look worse when you try to fact check him and Efap. If he improves in later videos then good for him but so far I’m not convinced. As for Shad, I don’t really care the majority of his content but I have heard about the decline in his video quality and takes but it doesn’t show up during coverage of Braeden’s video as far as I can tell.

[@GT_rising24]

I do think your Hulk video was your best work and you mentioned the highs and lows of His character beginning to end and how Hulk could of been one of the greatest characters in The MCU if they took elements from the source material more seriously instead of downplaying them

[@ArcTrooper269]

For me was the MCU villain retrospective, that thing multiplied my love for Arrow season 5 SO MUCH MORE 💚

[@GT_rising24]

@@ArcTrooper269 That was great aswell

[@DigiMyst]

That feeling when you're subbed to both channels. Honestly I forgot they covered you, but that doesn't take away from your growth as a channel. I hope you keep up the good work!

[@ab-gail]

Fr lol

[@BlueMageWithSoulEdge]

Eh, don't feel bad. These idiots do this to everyone. It's the reason why I stopped watching their stuff. If you got a problem with an argument or idea, then discuss the problem-- not gather around and cackle like midschool girls. I am a strong believer of not having the same logic or preforming the same actions as something you claim to be against. I think you have a strong argument.

[@WL1264]

What's wrong with what they do exactly? They're critiquing the video while having fun. There's nothing wrong with it. You want efap to reach out to this guy personally?

[@Ismatic1906]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@WL1264They aren’t critiquing they’re mocking someone in one large circle jerk.

[@KetsubanSolo]

​@@WL1264 I mean if they really cared they could leave a comment. But nah, it's pretty clear he's just doing it for SC money

[@WL1264]

@@KetsubanSolo sc? Dude if he only cares about the money I doubt he'd talk about a small channel like this.

[@braindeadbrick553]

the level of cringe is thru the roof ngl

[@JuanJohn-Raytheon]

I love Maulers solo work but EFAP is just him and his friends acting like high school girls. Keep doing your thing Braeden

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

Couldn't have put it better

[@tumulovermelho93]

Agreed

[@Regibump37]

Mauler definitely does seem to work well with video essays against unscripted discussions with his colleagues. Although I guess a lot of the EFAP team could also fall into that boat.

[@lordraiden7397]

@@Regibump37 Rags aint. dude got bad takes about Doom

[@ProjectLDV]

@@Regibump37 They’re all pretty shit outside of scripts. They’re an odd reflection of the same celebrities they now make fun of.

[@missesyourjokes]

The irony of them praising “the genius of the line” for having so many different meanings, while also calling you a child for asking “what does this line, actually mean?”

[@kingawesome5219]

They didn’t call him a child for that Cap line (you can tell because the visuals on the videos don’t match up). Iirc, they call him a child later in their reactions and it’s basically them saying that Braeden has a childish or childlike media comprehension, he doesn’t consider the possible subtexts behind the lines and actions characters make

[@missesyourjokes]

@@kingawesome5219 what are you going on about? What line specifically is braeden missing the subcontext of if they are done talking about the cap line? Just because the video was played for two seconds and then immediately paused does not mean that it’s a different segment and anything that was said previously is now completely irrelevant and can never be brought up again. Just because ‘the visuals don’t match up’ does not mean that what just finished coming out of someone’s mouth does not still apply to the conversation. I don’t care if they didn’t literally use the words “braeden is a child and this line is amazing.” When talking about it. Braedens position is ‘this line is very vague, can anyone tell me what it actually means?” EFAP: “this line is genius! It could mean absolutely anything to absolutely anyone!” the EFAP guys are completely self validated by every single opinion they have and their little panel of yes men and so they will never be able to see the irony in this.

[@gattlinggolduck6373]

@Misses your jokes Mauler said "Are you a child?" In response to Braeden's interpretation of the line, not the fact that he didn't understand it. Braeden's interpretation concluding with "Yeah, World War 2 was hard, and Steve knows that, but he should probably be a bit more grateful knowing all the people who died didn't die in vain." Which is a very childish interpretation of that line. Just because a line can have multiple meanings doesn't mean all of them are valid. And even by Braeden's own admittance, his interpretation _shouldn't_ be valid because he thinks Steve shouldn't be behaving this way if his interpretation is correct.

[@kingawesome5219]

@@gattlinggolduck6373 Beat me to it

[@gattlinggolduck6373]

@@kingawesome5219 kek

[@mastersplinter1950]

you pinpointed 1 of the largest problems ive been getting pissed with this whole Critical Drinker, Mauler, Nerdrotic "gang" they like when everyone agrees with them, their videos are just constant everyone agreeing with each other and its lame and boring. and they attack the hell out of people that disagree with their ideas without offering any defense of those ideas, if u want to spend 9 hours deconstructing something, providing alternate ideas would add interest instead of piling on with mob mentality.

[@brandonm1708]

I feel like you just haven’t watched them. They do often disagree with each other, defend their own ideas with references and well structured (at least good enough for it being live) and offer ways the videos could have been improved

[@Techno_Bunny433]

​@@brandonm1708they say the word steelman a lot but then continue to pick people apart or go in with the goal of proving why the video essayist is wrong

[@Kernwadi]

“Past tense of ping is pong.” -Bilbo Baggins

[@jeremyusreevu237]

I'm so glad you didn't do what Pillar Of Garbage did when his response video to Critical Drinker got EFAP'd. He basically just hid in his community post making a whiny response that basically said "Wah! I can't believe Mauler and crew EFAP'd my video. They're just a bunch of stupid nitpicking grifters who are stupid, and baby poo poo heads. I won because I'm right, nobody can challenge me!" No, you made a full video that actually tried to rebuff what they said in a calm, rational manner. Based.

[@shardsoftime0952]

Pillar of garbage, is just that... Garbage

[@rocklemillion8041]

Did he try to rebuff what they said?

[@ExpertContrarian]

Sounds like that’s exactly what they are

[@smbd1234]

Yep, I hate Pillar of Garbage he literally defends Garbage if they are diverse

[@aureateseigneur5317]

But based on your post Pillar described MauLer and Rags and the rest of them extremely accurately. Bullies don't deserve reasoned responses. And EFAP are mean fucking bullies.

[@WayoftheFerret]

Good on you for sticking up for yourself. I became disillusioned with EFAP's behaviour a long time ago and it's refreshing to see your rebuttal.

[@Omgsarge]

Gotta leave a positive comment. Your videos have improved very rappidly in the last 10 Months and I really enjoy your takes on these movies. Especially your video on the Hulk and the Wasted Villian potential. They lean a little bit more on the comic book side of things and how some very cool concepts have been wasted because they didn't take more inspiration from it. I very much grief for the Hulk...I thought the actor had huge potential and i enjoyed how the Hulk was portrait in The Avengers and an introduction. But he never got his own movie to expore the more interesting sides of the Hulk. Its a tragedy.

[@KetsubanSolo]

It's a rights thing, IIRC. Paramount gets royalties for Hulk solo films, kinda like the Spider-Man deal.

[@Vegitodraws]

From what I've seem, EFAP tends to ignore what they don't want to see, misunderstand or ignore the bigger picture, and dogpile shit before even comprehending what they watched. They did this at nauseam in their review of "The Batman." I remembered them completely misunderstanding the 3rd act and calling Bruce's suit being variably resistant to firepower a plot hole like all guns are made the same. They compare being shot up close by a fucking shotgun to being shot with distant, less powerful, rapid-fire guns. The amount of force isn't even close to the same, but they were too busy dog piling to comprehend that ALL GUNS ARE MADE DIFFERENT FOR A FUCKING REASON

[@gurigura4457]

EFAPs best work is where they're responding to a (bad) video essay & every member of a (small) cast has watched the film in question multiple times, recently. But over the years the cast has bloated, and they've stopped covering video essays to trying to dissect pieces of media. EFAP needs a proper devil's advocate, and the need to be part of the group completely destroys that. For me it was the Elden Ring coverage, which I did admittedly enjoy, but was popping a blood vessel by the end.

[@claytonhughes5256]

They are establishment shills

[@udonnauchegbu2018]

I thought it was funny that at 33:02 we see the chat disagreeing with why the cops wouldn't respect Cap cause he's been dead for decades. Most wouldn't know who he is.

[@Ducq33]

“The Batman” is dumb and him walking down a hallway while being shot by automatic rifles while suffering no repercussions or even recoil is dumb and is antithetical to the point of Batman; then he falls over because of a shotgun from a untrained incel only to be saved by Catwoman. “The Batman” was the furthest thing from what Batman is.

[@AsgersWeb]

@@Ducq33 He gets shot point blank with a shotgun, it being from a incel like yourself has nothing to do with anything, him being an incel won't make him a better or worse shooter when he's 2 feet infront of him with a shotgun. "“The Batman” was the furthest thing from what Batman is" ...Because he has bulletproof armor when it's from a distance, and because he gets shot? You're so fucking stupid it's not even funny

[@johnwiks2597]

I think the main problem with EFAP "grading" other video essays' is their disregard for context. Wouldn't take it personally and keep it going, stay consistent, elaborate your points. Overall I really enjoy your videos!

[@gurigura4457]

I think the main problem is that they assume whatever gut reactions they have are 100% correct & unassailable, and so rarely try to read what an essayist is trying to say.

[@kingawesome5219]

Disregard context how exactly?

[@aureateseigneur5317]

​@@kingawesome5219by lausing constantly to discuss shit the video is gonna talk about if they just wait and let the essayist finish their point. So many times rhey pause mid scentencen rant for 10 minutes, play the movie and the essay proceeds to say shay they just did. EFAP fucking sucks. There's a reason FAP is slang for jerking off because that's all these losers do, jerk eachother off.

[@milan99cz]

I genuily agree with you, Cap was so lame in Whedon's movies, the Russo brothers did so much of a better job

[@Syy]

So after enjoying your No Way Home video, I saw this one and decided to watch all the involved videos chronologically, your Captain America one, then the EFAP, then this response. I have to say, I found myself agreeing with you a hell of a lot in your Captain America video, and despite being a long-time fan of Mauler's videos, I found myself disagreeing with them a hell of a lot in the EFAP coverage - for many of the reasons you end up highlighting here. One example: I enjoy EFAP's defense of Cap's "They didn't say what we lost line" by saying having 7 different people give 7 different possible interpretations, and then Mauler comes in with "That's why it's a great line, there are so many ways you can interpret it.". The idea that you can have a line of dialogue be so vague that it could mean any of those things is not something I would classify as good writing, and to explain why I'll steal a quote from Mauler. _"...we could all sit for days pointing at splats of mud on the floor and saying they reference anything we want. Concrete storytelling always wins, because we know what the message was, and we can appreciate the construction, the time, the effort, the talent - all of that behind it. When story is scrambled with pieces missing and the justification is "It's better this way", you should probably realize why you have to argue that to so many people, rather than that being the way all the greatest stories are told."* - Mauler [RE: "In Defense of Dark Souls 2 - A Measured Response - Part 7, __53:56__]_ Speaking of, that video series is my absolute favorite thing Mauler's done and one of my favorite YT videos ever - specifically because it's a phenomenal deconstruction of the video essay it was made in reply to. Hbomberguy is allowed to make his point, often for multiple paragraphs worth of points - without being interrupted mid-stream. And the fact that he doesn't need to resort to cheap tactics like that to dismantle Hbomberguy's arguments is a great strength of that video. EFAP in comparison is like comparing a high-quality steak to a McDonald's burger - it's a fast food video essay response. It's cheap, and easy, fast, and can sometimes be what you're in the mood for - but it absolutely pails in comparison to something where you take the time, effort, and respect to properly analyze someone's arguments. And stacking a podcast with that many guests is ALWAYS a bad idea. The maximum number of people you can include in a podcast without it turning into a shouting fest is like, 5 - and even that's being generous. You can explain that away by saying it was the 200th episode and should be a big celebration, but A: they also stack the guest list quite regularly in normal episodes as well, and B: you could rotate guests in and out throughout your 24-hour stream. Overall I thought the vast majority of the EFAP crew's arguments were disingenuous, with your video being argued against in bad faith - looking for the most uncharitable interpretations of your points possible. In comparison, I thought your response was almost a little too fair, and I really respect the quality and maturity of this response. Lord knows, I probably wouldn't have been so magnanimous as to listen to some of these smooth brain takes and say "I think they're misunderstanding my point, but that's on me, I should've explained it better." I am still a fan of Mauler's work, and he has inspired me quite a bit in my own work, but EFAP is an inherently flawed format for actually meritable critique of video essays, as is the stated goal, and can absolutely show some of its hosts' worst attributes.

[@pelinalwhitestrake9306]

Well said

[@cursedreality8615]

Disapointing to see them do this since I genuinely like a lot of the e fap crews content and I binged a bunch of your channel genuinely great work and you are very articulate in the points you make, I hope you continue to make the content you make

[@timewarpdrive77]

Efap is trash nowadays; just a bunch of dogpiling reactors..

[@rocklemillion8041]

By “do this” what do you mean? This video was the creator saying that he phrased what he said poorly then turning around and saying that the efap crew went into his video wanting to hate it when the much more substantiated argument is that they are responding to what he said which wasn’t what he meant. He seemed more bitter than was called for. I’m interested to see if you disagree.

[@Ismatic1906]

⁠@@rocklemillion8041They dogpiled him, that’s the problem here. They didn’t give him a reasonable chance and were really dick-ish the entire time.

[@rocklemillion8041]

@@Ismatic1906 they gave the same reasonable chance they should have given. His video was shit, and he admitted every time that he phrased it badly. I don’t care if it was dogpiling or not. Were they accurate yes or no? I would argue overwhelmingly yes.

[@Ismatic1906]

@@rocklemillion8041 First of all he doesn’t say that “everytime”, and second, they were still demonstrably rude to someone who has a smaller channel. I’d still argue they’re in the wrong. Don’t get me started on the red lever bs.

[@fadingsmoke9206]

It is one of the reasons why i dont watch EFAP or barely watch any other critique channels these days, most of these people have no class and act like kids, make fun of people or degrade them uselessly, only maybe the little platoon who tries to bring in logical arguments and stuff. Do not take it harshly my man, a thing i have noticed about life and people is that it is always slightly mean people who attract more audience, because the reasonable people can never settle for injustices and are constantly shifting their views based on perspective, while lazy one dimensional people put no effort in understanding, have no good faith and just run their mouth like diarrhoea. And because of logical people never being stable, always on the metaphoric thinking kove, people find it hard to follow them or stick wih them. Hope you have a good day, if anyone laughs at you, you should know the fault is with them for a truly all understanding person would know humility. Just wanted to say some good things to you idk i always find it hard when people are bulled, even if it is in passive aggression.

[@Conflict-ff5pi]

Efap has really lost me as they've gone on. My biggest problem with it since the beginning is that they live react to stuff on a first viewing. Normally that'd be fine, but with the amount they pause the video and discuss, i can't count the amount of times where they've gone off on a huge rant about something that the video addresses if they'd just let it play normally. It was why i stopped watching them in the first place, its frustrating, and they very rarely acknoledge when they've fucked up in such a way. I've always thought it'd make more sense if they all watched each vid themselves first, all the way through, so they have a better idea of the whole argument before they start going off on one. Lately though, they've just started arguing in super bad faith and not taking anything seriously. I wouldn't even mind it so much if they didn't convey themselves and the show as some intellectual, in depth, honest critique of online videos when in reality its just a podcast of some friends shooting the shit while watching youtube.

[@Сайтамен]

Mauler usually watches video he wants to dissect first on himself.

[@Omgsarge]

Right on the money. I feel the same way. I enjoyed some of their videos were, what they were watching, is "objectively" bad/cringe. Also didn't matter who made it. But i have come to hate these long tangents because, as you say, they dont obviously correct themselves very much and a lot of bad faith flows into their final verdict regardless. I guess it IS called every frame a pause but how can you make these long winded overly complex trains of thought and arguments when you dont even know the whole argument. Its a waste of time and it often feels very arrogant. I mean, why shit on a new, growing content creator to that degree? Did they run out of Movie Bob or other easy big tuber videos to cry over? Also "are you a child" doesn't strike me as good "critisim" like some are mentioning. But oh, you gotta have a thick skin on this harsh harsh internet while a whole menargery of established KZbinrs farm your first video essay for content. I mean, come on.

[@shawklan27]

Well said

[@thorthewolf8801]

When they feel like they missed the point they go back and listen to it in its entirety. They are pretty good at it.

[@skeletonwar4445]

​@@thorthewolf8801 No they don't lmao

[@shawklan27]

Yeah rags especially has some bad anger issues, that's for sure

[@thecartoonfaxuator6878]

He hates it when people call him out on that!

[@thegamingprozone1941]

I hate all these guys

[@pelinalwhitestrake9306]

He also has a general smugness that is very unlikable

[@shawklan27]

@@pelinalwhitestrake9306 word

[@aburninglandfillofbadmovie2930]

Would Ed wood give up? Would Jason Vorhees give up? Would ZEE RED SHKULL give up? Forward! Never give up! Never let worthless people weigh you down or slow you down, move towards your goals, whatever they may be, and as long as you're moving towards them, you will definitely someday reach them. Like Rocko said, "It ain't about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward."

[@mrarcade2504]

Great video, man Love how you just focused on getting your points across despite how hard these guys were being on your video

[@Сайтамен]

I think showing Cap struggling but still finding solutions to his problems actually proves why he is worthy to be a leader - even though he is in new world for him, he quickly adapts, and despite not being the strongest Avenger, he still continues to fight and develop strategy for others. Even Tony, who makes a lot of jokes towards him, develops respect seeing this and trusts him the leader position.

[@RafaelOliveiraRhesyuzz]

This is quite interesting. Mauler does this same type of critiques and has simmilar opinions. I didn't get why he didn't like your video.

[@shanekhan6492]

Then what would efap complain about? Politics? Political furries lmao

[@rGGdom]

After years of watching those same youtubers, I just watched your "Joss Whedon Hates Captain America" video, and as a hardcore MCU Captain America fan, I think that's a great video and you shouldn't back pedal from it, not even a bit.

[@WL1264]

He said captain america is being disrespectful to war veterans.

[@TekTheNinja]

Trying to reach out to them didn't work out? That's a bit surprising actually though not entirely so I suppose. As for the the video, damn I have to say I do agree with EFAP on a lot of cases here, but also as someone who very much disagrees with EFAP often, I also do agree with a lot of your response as well. Pretty good video.

[@papapanders488]

The issue is that the points that efap were arguing against are not the points that braeden was making. Its hard to agree with someone when the thing theyre arguing against is fictitious

[@donaldjgumpofficial5754]

@@papapanders488 Brayden's title was hyperbolic but it seems like EFAP took it to mean Whedon actually despises Captain America.

[@kingawesome5219]

From what I gathered, he only pinged Mauler once on his discord, got into a short conversation with a member and then left. He was told that the best way to contact Mauler is to ping him but that he may not respond and that a Twitter ping has higher odds

[@jordanford9320]

I'm a person who absolutely loves mauler. I don't know about the rest of them. I actually get mad because I feel like he spends too much of his time fixated on EFAP rather than what made him actually good. And I've just discovered your content and literally 5 minutes ago subscribed. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@jordanford9320]

And I've never actually watched EFAP because I find the whole premise pretentious and annoying

[@Galvatronover]

@@jordanford9320 its not

[@KetsubanSolo]

​@@Galvatronovergreat rebuttal, man

[@bedtimegames]

Just shows how group thinking can destroy otherwise reasonable peoples thinking

[@ExpertContrarian]

They aren’t otherwise reasonable. Entertainment is just that bad and usually easy to pick apart

[@aureateseigneur5317]

You'd have to be reasonable first and nothing about any of these dudes is remotely reasonable. They are all bullies who jerk eachother off during these streams.

[@joosh9107]

Im down for a part 2 bro, great vid.

[@kenthefele113]

It’s refreshing to see an intelligent and well-spoken response to EFAP.

[@ExpertContrarian]

Every Frame a Jerk

[@PsypherWolf]

I didn't know about this, I dropped Efap a long time ago because it feels like white noise since it got big. Anyway, they were being very hypocritical during all of that, they used to critique things within context, delving deep in the nuance of a particular scene or media, pointing out when others missed such context and nuance. But in that particular reply they were constantly missing the point and misattributing arguments. They've either really declined or they get really stupid and petty when they have an axe to grind. It might have something to do with Mauler's infatuation with anything Joss Whedon, a lot of his his ZS's Justice League review was him propping up Whedon's version. It's just conjecture, however. Also, when it's something he really likes he has a very hard time accepting criticism, like with Spider-Man: Far From Home, he got very defensive when they discussed that movie (I think that movie is really dumb to its own detriment, but I digress).

[@skarloeythomas5172]

Could be his flaw. I cannot fault his TFA and TLJ critiques, in my view they seem entirely reasonable. And it makes sense, when he cogitates upon his analyses rather than spitting heated opinions.

[@Jay9966]

​@@skarloeythomas5172agree, I subbed because of his TLJ trilogy but I unsubbed after his shitty vids on MCU movies. He claimed to prepare for months for TLJ and it kinda shows and meanwhile his MCU movie reviews come out quite soon following the movie.

[@skarloeythomas5172]

@@Jay9966 They are a different style and meant to be heated, quick and dirty. I thought all the films he covered were bad, Black Widow, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, but also Infinity War, which he loved, but many things he praised it for were flaws he pointed out in the others.

[@Jay9966]

@@skarloeythomas5172 which is why I say he's biased. The same thing in two movies can get extremely different comments from him based on his liking. Which is why his Unbridled series caused me to unsub. I get that its more 'impromptu' than his Star Wars stuff but that's what makes it shitty, its completely based on his emotions with little thought or analysis put into it. And these are the videos he started putting out after his channel grew exponentially from his way more well-crafted star wars stuff.

[@MaidenOfAir]

It really feels like they didn't even bother listening to your arguments. A lot of the time, you explained yourself fine, but they just didn't bother to try and interpret your words. Honestly, this just feels like CinemaSins style of "shitting on people for the sake of it" in order to make entertainment, rather than legitimate critiques

[@jesselaier7286]

That's because they literally pause the video after every word to lodge insults for 10 minutes. It's unlistenable.

[@shawklan27]

​@@jesselaier7286 preach

[@ProjectLDV]

@@jesselaier7286 it’s a garbage format

[@skarloeythomas5172]

@@jesselaier7286 it works for when it’s worthwhile and rare, like Doctor Strange MoM. But for a ten minute KZbin video? No way, especially as the very next frame renders their hasty dissection pitifully worthless.

[@gurigura4457]

@@jesselaier7286 Yeah, its the real weakness of the format. Maybe this is rose-tinted glasses, but it feels like they pause more & more often without letting the person finish their point. It has been a problem since the start, however.

[@Darkhourglass]

Glad you didn't let them get you down. I haven't liked any of their stuff in a long time. Stopped feeling like critique and more complaining that things aren't the way they like it or things should be written the way they interrupt writing rules. Your stuff is great! And informative. I always liked Cap in the first avengers (still do) but I think you are 100% correct on his treatment. I didnt spot those because I like underdogs so the harder it is the better it feels but the way they show others in their good moments heavily implies a bias.

[@tonyg9775]

"LMAO How is that guy supposed to know who he is?!" *pauses on a literal Smithsonian showcase of Cap*

[@Rafael-rn6hn]

EFAP is complete waste of time in every way possible.

[@WL1264]

Still better than this vid

[@captainamerica7800]

I agree. However, when they singularly take the time to assess a video, it's usually decent if not great. But together they just behave like f***ing children. All disingenuous a**holes. Not a single one playing devil's advocate or considering what the content creator is trying to say. Never will "to be fair" come out of their f***ing mouths. That's too boring. We gotta make fun of the guy even though he's right about a few things but we either won't address it and hope the people in the comments won't either cause they are all braindead, or we are also just too stupid to understand what he's saying. They don't even want to understand. The entire vid is in bad faith. They want to make this guy look ridiculous. But he has good points that they gloss over and scream and laugh over. It's childish and hypocritical as f***. I can't f***ing stand EFAP. That act like they are the intelligent ones that have the truth on quality of films that we don't see, but contrarict themselves, are hypocritical, and behave like children when they are all together. Maulers vids work better when he actually takes the time ON HIS OWN to really deep dive into something like with his work on critiquing the last jedi. One of if not his best vids.

[@aureateseigneur5317]

​@@WL1264Naw, this videos a good example of why EFAP is fucking trash.

[@Сайтамен]

I agree with you about the Hulk, disagree about Captain America. Hope you will get to have a debate with them and maybe become a part of long family.

[@Сайтамен]

@@bobthebuilder5680 whos one?

[@bobthebuilder5680]

I didn't mean to comment here, he made a tweet about this but I didn't know what EFAP was

[@SchmokinJoe]

I had no idea they did this kind of thing. They attack other channels who do EXACTLY the same thing they do... it's kind of disgusting actually. Is it because your video isn't fucking 6 parts that are 4 hours each?? Did Mauler ever finish his massive and oh-so-relevant breakdown of every line of dialogue in The Last Jedi?? Last time I saw, after 3 years he was about 1/4 of the way through the movie and The Rise of Skywalker had already come out.... very timely...

[@WL1264]

How is it disgusting? And no they don't want other creators to make 6 hour long videos. They're just critiquing his video

[@SchmokinJoe]

@@WL1264 That's the thing.. they didn't just critique it, they spent hours pouring over this guy's 13 minute video and railed on everything he said. They acted like he was a blathering idiot. He made some decent points in the Cap video, (Joss Whedon seems like he doesn't know what to do with the character other than 'soldier out of time') and it was unnecessary for them to go so hard. It felt petty...

[@WL1264]

@@SchmokinJoe well it's a podcast basically. It's a bunch of dudes hanging out. And the guy said some dumb things.

[@joshrosal5573]

@@SchmokinJoe That's basically their thing. "Every Frame a Pause" as in they try to analyze every single detail in what they review. They do this with everything, movie or otherwise...

[@SchmokinJoe]

@@joshrosal5573 I know they do it with movies, I didn't realize they do it to other youtubers who are trying to get their footing. Do they ever go back and look at their own early videos to "critique" them?

[@cassiopeia21]

I like mauler, his videos are great....but they're videos explaining why films are bad (or good, sometimes)...so why he's like "oh you're going to explain why it's bad, as if we don't know" is extremely odd and disappointing. Mauler, you make 5+ hour long videos explaining why you didn't like a film, yet seem to dismiss someone else doing it? Wowsers.

[@thattroy]

They took some cheap shots and completely ignored your argument - and for what? Watching big names punching down is cheap. Your videos are freaking brilliant. Keep ‘em coming!

[@WL1264]

This guy said that Captain America should've said "we can do this all day" at the end of the battle. Wouldn't call that brilliant.

[@TKdrizzle]

@@WL1264 when was that? I think that may have been a joke. Seriously, watch this guys other stuff.

[@WL1264]

@@TKdrizzle seemed like he was being srs. Also he said so many dumb things before. Remember when cap said to nick fury "they told me what we won, but they didn't tell me what we lost" good line and requires some interpretation. But somehow this guy thought that steve was being disrespectful towards ppl who fought the war. Just incredibly bizarre stuff he said throughout the video. Even some of the guys at efap thought this video was a parody at first.

[@aftermodesmusic7440]

@@WL1264 that is not what he said.. he asked what the line meant and he gave his own interpretation.

[@WL1264]

@@aftermodesmusic7440 he gave his own interpretation = that is what he said

[@hi_artmoto]

It’s a shame how creators who are capable of nuanced and entertaining criticism on their individual platforms devolve into mean spirited dogpiling when placed together like this. I can understand how this can be fun. Shitting on a piece of media with your friends on a couch and all. it’s simply not the stuff to do in public, and especially inappropriate to be punching down in this way. Great points and a very reasonable measured response. Keep it up! (Awww shadiversity’s in this group…? How disappointing.)

[@GT_rising24]

The Super Soldier Serum also increases Intelligence

[@Fr0styCoffee]

Efap made themselves look like self-righteous douches with this one, it’s a shame, I appreciate much of their content.

[@atom_zero5413]

I stopped watching EFAP early on, it's just dog piling, and even when they "invite" someone to defend their point, they just mock when they have no more arguments in their favor. They say they want a middle ground, but they don't. They just want an excuse to mock. And you're right, I never even noticed, but sometimes they don't even cite their sources for content, and they make a TON of money, just in stream donations alone.

[@ab-gail]

Tbh I was one of the folks who disagreed with your video and agree with some of the points EFAP made (minus the insults). Cool to see you be so humble while also not being a push over for a larger channel. Loving your MCU villain and Thor vids especially!

[@NortonFort59]

MauLer sucks. Stop defending idiots.

[@Victor-qx3vx]

1:27 - 1:51 This. This is exactly the reason why people should stop saying “Why don’t you go debate with EFAP then?!” As if it was an intelectual, civilized debate where both sides have the chance to make their point across each other and the audience. It simply is not. And they have no interest in making it be like that.

[@Osbornesupremacy]

I’m a fan of many of the EFAP guys, but their treatment of Braeden’s arguments is shameful. I viewed Braeden’s original Captain America video only recently. I’m not sure if I’m in complete agreement, but he presents a unique perspective, and argues his point well.

[@WL1264]

Dude he wanted cap to say we could do this all day. How gay is that

[@makito106]

Fingers crossed they invite you to the next stream. Worst-case situation they do a counter video without you 😅

[@mrmackellar3337]

24:54 Cap was also part of an intensely racist time period Cap is supposed to be the moral exception to such a horrible and awful time period, as if he’s supposed to be a moral beacon or something (Responding to Efaps point btw)

[@Сайтамен]

I think there are enough scenes in the movie showing his strength. Like when he rips out stuck metal door or cuts the arm of an armoured alien with one hit. I agree that other movies portray him as more powerful and badass, but doesn't that show how he has developed?

[@skarloeythomas5172]

Physically, not mentally as a leader.

[@kingawesome5219]

Isn’t on of the points of Captain America 1 and Avengers 1 is to show how and why Cap is a good leader. Doesn’t Phase 1-3 also show that his methods or ideology as a leader changes and mirrors Tony’s development?

[@SuperKillJoy15]

13:23 Cap had his scene showcasing his strength, it was him standing up and talking to Loki while everyone was being forced to kneel. Cap is Charismatic and kind first and foremost, physical strength is only used by him when necessary, not the first option. And Tony saying what he is without his suit is shallow, they aren't good things in and of themselves. Reverse the question on Cap with the Serum and you have a kind man who's willing to risk his life to save others. He doesn't know much about the modern world, but he knows what must be done and he will do it regardless of the risk. He is a leader and Avengers made me see him as my favorite character in the MCU because of this. I see this movie as constantly showing off the STRENGTH of Cap, strength of Character over strength of body though

[@Darknessinged]

It's so ironic that people who usually criticize big movies for their flaws to make them better in the future (I suppose) end up running out of content and went for their fellow colleague. But on the other side, I think you should be proud of your video: because it was reviewed on the same level as recent big budget hi-ad movies. You hit a mark: renowned! Anyway, good work and I'm glad I found your channel among others!

[@He-who-wakes]

They go after youtubers all the time tho?

[@He-who-wakes]

Are youtubers immune to critique?

[@d-land7775]

Average EFAP fan vs Chad Brendan Alberti Enjoyer

[@AngstOfAGerman]

Literally everything the EPAP crew said about "the line", corporatism, the patriot act, 9/11, nukes, everything they mentioned, we talk about all the time. Cap says "they didnt say what we lost", so the question is what we lost that we *don't* talk about. Every single one of their interpretations, we talk about.

[@missesyourjokes]

but look at it from the EFAP crews perspective, they will get a gold star if they are the first one to blurt out a counterpoint with as little thought put in as possible.

[@gurigura4457]

Except, what exactly does Cap think we lost? You can extrapolate what he might mean if you look at his behaviour in later films (distrust of the goverment, etc.) but even that only gets a general ballpark. Maybe Cap is a raging homophone who sees too many gays or blacks. Without hindsight of later films or other media, there's a bunch of things from the 30s we could have "lost" in the gap.

[@DaywalkerNL94]

8:00 Wait. Notice how they literally project their own things into that line: right wing leaning "cultural war" dude talks about communism sneaking up on America (in 20-fucking-12 lol) and taxes (presumably Obama taxes), libs talk about corporations and older libs say Patriot Act. That means there is no meaning to it in the movie. It's not "something to think about" or has multiple meanings when all you can do is project yourself and only yourself into it. The only reason it has many meanings is because there are many people producing one idea each. That's not complexity thats just J.J's mystery box recipe for a self insert. It's disconnected from the character and the plot and exist to use your imagination instead of the script.

[@thanos2271]

Great video, great rebuttals to their “points”

[@Zeyga]

It’s a shame, I’m both a fan of you and efap (when they are reviewing shows and movies). Mauler, Critical Drinker, Little Platoon, and Fringy are the ones I respect the most. But it is preferable that they watch the entire thing and THEN pause on the rewatch. Crediting the user and even inviting them on to discuss is normal for them. I am surprised that nobody has gotten back to you, especially seeing that your opinions and criticisms are VERY similar to their own. But with all that said, your content is very good and I am subscribed now.

[@SLIKZRKK]

I hate that they never let the point play all the way, but instead they pause part way through and then end up misunderstanding what the point was in the firts place. I like mauler but it seems like when they're in a group all sense of compression just dissappears.

[@MrDeothor]

35:02 you might want to check E;R (he's the smiley face second from left). He has quite fun review/deconstruction vids.

[@OnesieLightYear]

I like the way you handled this look forward to more from you

[@edwardreed67]

Mauler: how dare people not know my standards before they make their videos!

[@countwardawgula]

I've enjoyed your content. I think I've watched it all. Keep it up. I'm a fan of the EFAP guys too. Don't let it get to you. Just keep doing you and have fun with it.

[@feadme3543]

I love your content and loved that captain America, video it made me think about alot of stuff ive never thought of before. But listening to these guys actually hurts they have no different thought they are just clones without differing opinions none of them are even trying to understand your side they are just ripping into you, they dont even have good points alot of the time

[@MasterChakra7]

30:06 "He's so improved by this next film that it feels like he got injected with a second serum" This is the best sentence in the entire video and pretty much sums up everything about Cap prior to WS. There isn't even any explicit reason why he would be stronger once WS hits, he was always able to punch and kick stuff several meters away. It's just a writing problem, and it pains me that EFAP were not able to get that simple point.

[@WL1264]

Dude you're complicating a simple situation. Mcu action got better in phase 2 that's all. They hired good stunt choreographers n stuff. The action in age of ultron is better than the first avengers. Winter soldier action is much better than the first cap

[@Ismatic1906]

@@WL1264It’s not that simple. The action does make him seem more powerful but it’s also the writing.

[@GoblinFootball13]

Firstly, my English is far from perfect, so I apologize if my points won't be perfectly understandable. But holy F. I like Mauler's solo content. He was literally the only one reviewer of media stuff I was watching at the time. Until I've found this channel. I've even left a comment a year ago under one of your She-Hulk videos, praising you and saying that your style was kinda similar to Mauler's. Anyway, about this particular case: I'm completely on your side, my friend! Hopefully this shit won't affect your confidence and won't go under your skin. I really admire your work! About Efap - I find it kinda disgusting how bunch of people are piling on one guy without any attempt to even understand your point. I find it incredibly unfair because: 1) you are alone vs all of them; 2) you can't even defend yourself right there because you're not there, not invited; 3) they didn't invite you later; 4) they didn't leave any credits, links to your channel. They didn't even tell your name to the audience. WTF?! I would think that after they were whining about someone on Twitch not doing this stuff (links in the description for original source from content creator) they would do it themselves; 5) again, bunch of people saying exactly the same stuff like they are some freaking collective mind is wrong. Even boring. Because, generally, good and interesting content involves some debates, disagreements etc.. Fkinel, nobody in that chat room tried to stick up for you or even to remotely understand you. Honestly, they came across as bunch of pricks. Good luck, mate. I really appreciate your work!

[@guitarman181]

I really enjoy Maulers content very much. I came across your channel and watched nearly all of your videos. You made great points on Cap and Hulk. I agree with your vids. Hulk would not gone down with Thanos that easy. Subscribed. EFAP did not need to make this, but more people will see your solid content. You handled it well, Keep doing your thing man!

[@upjohn1715]

What makes this video interesting is that I understand where your coming from and where they're coming and me personally I'm in the middle on this debate, as the video has a point that Avengers could have been better with how it represents Cap as a hero who should be treated with respect (especially power wise) and a competent leader. On the flip side there were some points made in the video that I felt didn't matter that much. But regardless I enjoy both you and EFAP as both of you provide something that critics these days lack: genuine criticism that isn't skewed by political bias or sucking up to these manipulative billion dollar companies.

[@kylerinker8191]

Holy mob mentality batman, they sound like high schoolers with how desperate they are to yell criticism(some of it just schoolyard mocking) over one another, not to mention how repetitive they are. I'm sure they have more reasonable videos than this one, but yeesh, bad look. I know "real time" reaction vids are the easiest to make, but they should really have chopped that one a lot with editing, or just not put it out. I mean, if I listened back on myself sounding like that there's no way I'd want to release it. Good on you for responding in a far more reasonable manner(doubt I'd have been able), hopefully someone from their video sees some of this one and tries to improve what they put out from this Also thank you for pointing out that what I thought was a picture of Randy from the Trailer Park Boys was indeed the silly anti barbie guy

[@bIametheniIe]

They simply will take everything out of context and then proceed to build a strawman out of what they took out of context. Mauler is guilty of that style of review and wouldn't be surprised if others on efap do too. Remove context, then strawman it. Mauler's reviews typically consist of him doing that, but for like 10 hours straight, which is excessive.

[@Eliminate.]

even tho i disagree with some thing you say I still like to hear your take on movies and your perspective. Always nice listening to what you have to say and your takes on films and characters

[@abdullahfahad53]

I like a lot of the people on that efap stream, its quiet sad to see them assume the worst about your video. Hopefully, mauler reaches out to you and sees your pov

[@wem_iii]

I found your Hulk video because I saw a video eman movie reviews made about the Hulk in the MCU and I decided to see what other people thought about it as well. Been following you ever since.

[@VencentCross]

MAN... kinda disappointed in the EFAP boys for doin ya dirty, ngl. its kind of a "kicking down the ladder after they climbed it" move. maybe they are getting a little TOO comfortable trashing others on their show. it doesnt help that they are all pretty negative minded and that likely has the effect of reinforcing the negativity. not to mention many ppl really enjoy them being rude as a joke but you know, slowly, over time, the "joke" becomes sincere opinion.

[@WL1264]

Kicking down the ladder? They started out critiquing other ppls videos

[@VencentCross]

@@WL1264 they are critics and now that they are successful, they found it funny to mock a lesser known critic for making a critique. that IS kicking down the ladder which they themselves climbed to their success. you can argue the semantics of it if you like by claiming that what they do and what this guy does are not equivalent but that does not change the fact that this was a pretty mean spirited thing for them to do after they got big. im especially pointing out hey they brought up this guy's lack of subscribers multiple times as if that makes his opinion less valid. it comes off as if they believe that the measure of one's truth is relative to how many people hear it. its got that "im popular and therefore, my opinions are correct" vibe that ppl grow out of in highschool.

[@WL1264]

@@VencentCross they go after smaller channels and big ones. The video was just really silly. He made a lot of silly points. Obviously efap will clown on them.

[@hi_artmoto]

The format probably doesn’t help either… I mean it’s fun to shit on stuff with your friends, but they’re doing it in front of tens (to hundreds) of thousands of people. They ought to be more careful

[@Seanny313]

Ngl I’ve been fw your style of the video essays, sad to be informed that some of the video essay content creators I watch were acting this way, keep up the work bruh🤙🏾

[@tvdasala1701]

Efap is sooo 2019 and i say this in the worst way possible. Love your vids even if i don't always agree with the points.

[@nont18411]

They are still obsessed with Brie Larson for no reasons.

[@Rounderyathecruel]

@@nont18411what are you on about you decaying muppet

[@Scarecrowbooger]

23:10 You're right! I like Chris Evans as Capt. America, but the writing for him is weak in this movie and there isn't really a scene that defines him as a leader here. Remember that scene in Age of Ultron where Hawkeye gives Scarlet Witch a pep talk when she's having a mental breakdown in a room? A leader is someone who inspires and brings out the best in others and that's what Hawkeye does in that scene. Capt. America doesn't really get a scene like that in the Avengers.

[@sully553]

EFAP have been falling off for a while.

[@shawklan27]

Yep

[@BlackKing505]

fr

[@Averybritishbear]

Yea used to watch but just kinda stopped

[@IvanDubsK7]

I think the shoutout at the end was nice, but to Nerdrotic of all people jesus

[@WL1264]

Yeh that makes it a bit difficult to sympathize with him. Most "efap purists" don't like nerdrotic.

[@Сайтамен]

Meme Repository is clearly really biased towards Joss Whedon. (as much as he hates Zack Snyder), and though I prefer him myself, he feels obligated to die on hill to defend every single decision Whedon makes in his movies.

[@nont18411]

Joss Whedon is a shit director though. That scene of Flash groping Wonder Woman was unnecessary.

[@Сайтамен]

@@nont18411 One unnecessary scene doesn't make him a shit director.

[@jesselaier7286]

Saw. KZbin clip once of MauLer going on a podcast trying to defend his theories of what makes good media and the podcast host laughing him off the show.

[@Сайтамен]

which podcast?

[@jesselaier7286]

@@Сайтамен sitch and Adam show

[@RiseOfTheKumquat67]

Just looking up "Mauler sitch and adam show" didn't quite narrow it down

[@jesselaier7286]

@@RiseOfTheKumquat67 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gp_YZI2pa6yHmZI

[@Mr_Jumbles]

"laughed him off the show" and yet they are efap regulars. They are LITERALLY in this panel. Bro. 🤣

[@mrburton8842]

You gained a sub; they lost one.

[@WL1264]

Dude this video actually makes efap seem like they're right

[@Kroq_Gar]

​@WL1264 will you get off efaps dick 😂

[@MrN0where]

Great response video. Don’t let them get to you! You passion in these videos is what made me subscribe to your channel and I’m looking forward to more content from you. Can’t wait for MCU villains part 3.

[@papapanders488]

I tend to not watch any of their videos when theyre in groups as it becomes an echo chamber and spirals out of control, to the point where theres no valid or beneficial criticisms but instead is just an attempt to get a laugh from whoever is there.

[@voxsvoxs4261]

Just got here, but thanks for the videos you do and keep up the good work, like your stuff, hope you get the traction you want.

[@lioneljonson8716]

Tbf I think every appearance of captain America he gets stronger and stronger which makes sense imo. He slowly figures out what he's capable of.

[@Chriscras2]

I'm looking forward to the Age of Ultron video you mentioned at the end of the Captain America video 😁

[@BilboBaggMan]

efap is insanely white noisey, at least you have things of substance to say. which is why they are vulturing your content to begin with.

[@Broonie12]

I love the video and I think it’s so interesting how framing a perspective can change the viewer’s perception entirely. I think if you put their channel and video in the description, you would beat them on moral and unique perspective.

[@Mamoswine-s]

here after the villain supercut, please do more on villains superhero movies or not, and would love to see something on kick ass if that’s your type of thing. Last thing you and elvis are the only likeable “commentary reviewers” imo

[@leonfontius5300]

25:45 I'm sad to see Shadiversity misrepresent you like that out of everyone I expected better from him especially as a fan of his channel.

[@celestialsoldier622]

He's following the crowd. That's how it goes. Once everyone's attacking someone and laughing it's easy to join in without thinking much of it. But EfapCrew will easily attack you just a harshly for disagreeing mob mentality the people they're criticizing as if you weren't even their friend. Check out how they went against Jlongbone on their Spider-man NWH breakdown. They've even done it to a critical drinker once and really bullied Southpaw into leaving Efap all together.

[@leonfontius5300]

@@celestialsoldier622 Wow I knew what happened with Southpaw but the other two this is really upsetting 😡 and the thing about Shad is that I looked up to him to see him just stoop down to their level is just so hard to watch.

[@gurigura4457]

@@celestialsoldier622 I don't know what you mean, No Way Home is the best film ever made, and any criticism must be from some butthurt fanboy who wanted it to be exactly like the comics in 1992.

[@celestialsoldier622]

@@gurigura4457 I never understood Efaps boner for MCU Spider-man. They come up with all kinds of excuses for him that they give to no one else.

[@Jabberstax]

Dude, I love your channel. I stumbled across it recently and subbed after watching the full version of your "Marvel villain problems" video. Their criticism was unfair and completely lacking context, but don't let them bother you. You're doing great, and I look forward to watching your future work. 👍

[@WL1264]

Most of this video was him saying he should've made things clear. So it's his fault. This dude suggested cap should say we can do this day. This is the cringiest shit ever.

[@aftermodesmusic7440]

@@WL1264 You are embarrassing....

[@Trimondius]

This one response earned you a sub.Mauler and co have always acted pompous,why make a 20 minute review of a movie when a 20 hour "critical essay" will do the job.