I want to give up on this job market….here’s what I plan to do next | Tech

[@mikeincarnation1484]

One of my friends lost his sr position at an agency. Myself and another friend helped create different profiles on job sites using different variations of my friend’s name and different emails, and created some profiles omitting some of his experience so that we could apply for entry level, mid level, and sr positions. We automated some of the process, but it took 16 months and 14k applications for him to receive 4 offers. 2 mid level and 2 sr level positions.

[@WutherWave-qc3ud]

You guys are insane 😅 but what is more insane is even after all the the amount you hear back is crazy! How are we suppose to work if they say they are hiring but really actually aren’t?

[@Aieshoo]

I'm burnt out from interviewing.

[@Life_with_Jeremy]

This is real.

[@RajDeelish]

At least you get to the interview stage.

[@Aieshoo]

​@@RajDeelish I guess...

[@castlewood1371]

Army

[@slkchao]

Wishing you the best Jeremy🙏 keep plugging away and maintain your sanity!

[@pametenorio9811]

Your plan sounds good, i love how you approach things

[@Macmood21]

Bro you're in a better boat than I am. I am a cybersecurity PM and haven't gotten a interview since March. I will be unemployed for a year in October. The tech industry market is screwed

[@HughJass-313]

😂😂 Managers are always the first to go. That's why they pay so much ❤❤

[@castlewood1371]

Army

[@censoredeveryday3320]

Yup. 11 months for me and I have 20+ years of IT experience. I got a CDL and drive a truck now.

[@DinnerTimeFan]

I had to put in 700 applications before I found a job, and even then I had to take a HUGE paycut.

[@kevinacker9843]

Been there, done that...😢

[@WutherWave-qc3ud]

I just … want a job and to work.

[@ozhoneybadger]

Ain't worked since last year October. Long interviews. Successful ones. Tests pre and post. Final stage interviews. Jobs cancelled on me. Savings going down the drain

[@Life_with_Jeremy]

It's been rough. I was lucky to get severance but that's been long gone and my savings are depleting

[@SweetKarki-nv8wp]

Same

[@ozhoneybadger]

Sorry to hear guys. We all in this together don't worry stand strong. A good time may be coming soon

[@SKYMONKEY42]

@@ozhoneybadger yeah when AI takes over the world like in IRobot, and we scrap the whole idea altogether…. That’ll be the best day ever. “Wishful thinking”

[@nastypiglosi1788]

I'm glad I got out of tech back in 2008 and got a masters degree in accounting and CPA. It's not for everyone, but there's no shortage of jobs yet.

[@Nikotromus]

I have a job in tech and have been looking for a new one. It's a completely dead market.

[@YeetYeetYe]

I just job hopped from making $90k to almost $200k. There are still opportunities, you just have to grind super hard.

[@luckyluke9744]

@@YeetYeetYe This has been always the case, at least for me. When you have a job, recruiters email you on a weekly basis. When you don't have a job though ... crickets.

[@kevinacker9843]

Have you tried tech in a manufacturing environment? Just asking.

[@kevinacker9843]

​@@YeetYeetYeamen brother.

[@KythForsa]

I've been at it 8 months. About 1% human response rate to cold mass applications + networking. Handful of interviews to speak of. Zero offers. 25 years in computer tech (comp science) across general IT, development and CX. it's insane, though I know age is not on my side. I just applied to Costco today as a stock boiii. 18/hr is better than zero. That's after applying to BJ's, Target, Walmart, Best Buy and Starbucks -- and I'd been in corporate life my entire career. Needless to say these menial jobs don't want me either because I don't have any similar experience, I'm old, I'm expensive & they're convinced I wouldn't be staying. (They're not wrong.) It's wild.

[@UnitedCorporationsOfAmerica]

I've applied at Costco many times. The jobs are posted but the phone never rings.

[@tonyl6385]

I agree $18 is less then zero. I suggest if you're under 35, consider civil service. Maybe sherif dept, fire dept, or get a cdl ( passenger) and drive a city bus. You'd be surprise how much you can earn considering you need limited education and the pension is quite good. State jobs are also good. I would love to do that but I was downsized, and at 56 I was aged out. I was blessed with a union job, hourly is decent bit the medical is great snd I can't be forced out. Remember, city, state jobs are secure. They offer great benefits and decent pension. God bless.

[@danielwutfisho]

Markets so bad it made my dude go from corporate to Costco 😂

[@UnitedCorporationsOfAmerica]

@@danielwutfisho I did the same thing. IT biz to stocking shelves at the grocery for 17$ an hour.

[@Codikas]

In plain speech, what exactly does "product management" and "tech" mean for the type of job roles you're applying for? What does a product manager do? Are you involved with configuring technology, software development? What are your hard skills?

[@HughJass-313]

😂😂 exactly. I understand why he can't find a job

[@Codikas]

@HughJass-jv2lt I'm not even trying to be snarky here, I just honestly have no idea what his area of expertise is in. What did he used to do? What is his part time job now?

[@HughJass-313]

@@Codikas I hear ya. But in this market... anything with "management" in the title is gonna be tough. Better to be the person "doing the work".... Not the person "managing" the actual worker.

[@okcognito2124]

It likely means he's familiar with scrum, kanban, and general tech/management stuff while being familiar with various charts, making presentations to leadership, etc. They are middle management between the engineers and execs. I won't say the job isn't useful or necessary like some because it is, and someone who is good at it can make a difference, but it is also a job that isn't hard to learn, and companies will often promote people internally into these kind of roles. An engineer who is tired of the code grind and has a lot of soft skills + knows all this stuff from being a part of it and knows the company internals is often going to be a better fit than an external hire, since they will actually be able to tell if their team is BSing them. I've seen those without that background falter because what they are managing is magic to them.

[@HughJass-313]

@@okcognito2124 Last summer.... I saw my job hiring for this role.... Paying at least 125k 🤣🤣 I laughed. Glad I'm just a lowly network engineer. Still gainfully employed

[@walidzein1]

God gonna reward you at the end, stay strong and patient

[@underman1]

Hitting 10 months of unemployment as a software engineer. Being in Canada, the American job market looks like heaven on the surface in comparison with job opportunities. Also burnt out of my mind from the stress of interview prep, but also the sadness and extreme stress of being unemployed in an insanely tough job market. I also am part of a JSC at the moment, but my first one was pretty bad. Wish I could be part of a JSC with a lot of people in development though.

[@Life_with_Jeremy]

Yea, the JSCs can be hit or miss. I ended up disbanding my 1st JSC and joined another one which had more movement/traction.

[@waikit828]

I got my new job by connecting with one of the hiring managers that didn’t hire me last year. I told her I felt embarrassed but had to reach out to her because I felt my interview went great last year even thought I wasn’t chosen for fill the role. My take is don’t feel bad to try to connect with those that ever rejected you. If you believe you had great interviews with them, try to connect with them again. The outcome could be different.

[@ozchen]

Way to shoot your shot. Love the ego-less approach

[@TaylorZ2]

That is sooooo sad. I feel bad for you, I've been there. It's sad, you get people with masters degrees flipping burgers. If you don't have a network group, or all their connections are exhausted, you're screwed. I wish you luck.

[@SKYMONKEY42]

It’s even worse for people with a degree in general. You become overqualified that you can’t even flip burgers.

[@elizabethclarke4981]

sadly, I had to dumb down my resume to apply, instead of my BA, I used my HS diploma for entry level jobs and I got a lot more traction, I got some interviews coming up so fingers' crossed but it sucks cause I worked hard for that degree but now I can't use it cause I'm "overqualified" even though I've been told that's what you need to get a job smh so much bs

[@UNR-ASMR]

40 plus applications and 2 interviews for me. Keep on truckin' IT fam!

[@mfrancisco_850]

2500 applications here 3 years now

[@FuturesTradingwithKellyAnn]

I was a tech recruiter and the market started to decline around June 2022. I have since started trading and and found a better way to make a living independently but I am getting ready to go back to work for a short term projet because it has been so long and I want to keep my skills. The good news is it does appear there is some movement in tech again. I have been following your journey. Best of luck to you in your next round onf interviews and I hope you find an amazing job soon.

[@canijustgetanamealre]

I never thought it would be like this

[@richarddees5751]

The end of the July will mark as my one year anniversary of my unemployment as a software engineer.

[@mberu14]

if you live alone with bills is best to get any job cause you be putting yourself in a tough situation with rent

[@mfrancisco_850]

3 years here living under the bridge now lost everything but also found a strange peace

[@davidhart1578]

I've just caught up on your story and I can definitely sympathise. It's by far the toughest time I've seen in the market. I've had long job searches before but usually I'd at least get the chance to interview. I've had some truly baffling moments this time around. Recently got referred for a job by a friend. I had twice the experience they were looking for and had specialized in the tiny niche they needed for the last 8 years but got an automated rejection. I'm fairly certain my CV never got to the actual person hiring but I'll never know for sure. I think the worst part of it is getting no feedback whatsoever, because you don't know if it's just some AI filtering you out or a genuine concern that you could address. Anyway, best of luck with the search. I know it might seem like you've put in a lot of effort to get into an industry that's not working, but hopefully it's another door that's open to you in future.

[@anti.idolatry]

There's also phantom jobs that HR is not actually hiring. They can test the job market by the number of applicants and the experience of applicants that they get.

[@introvertdude99]

I’d just switch because if that’s the way they treat the industry I’d just rather go into something else . Plus they are shipping a lot of jobs overseas for the cheap so that seems to be a trend . I was considering going into tech but I decided on business(accounting) instead . I’m also planning to leave the US too after school so that’s an option as well if you can make that happen for more variety and speak another language .

[@joeme]

Don't they have counselors in high school anymore? Don't they try and point the kids to open fields? No direction from the parents? I figured it out when I started Fortran, switched to architecture and wound up as a package engineering. Who would go to school for a job market that was overflowing in 1999 anyway?

[@a2m2tkyo]

Been about 8 months now, I hate this. It's so disheartening. Recruiters playing games, scheduling interviews at incorrect times then not responding to fix it, no response post interview, its all so disheartening man. I'm really on the edge with this job market and it hurts

[@dan.m.8614]

Jeremy as a PM you dont have to stick to Tech Jobs, why not looking for other industries like medical, automotive, aerospace, etc??? My advise is if you are going to shift away from tech, then do so and if you get a job on another industry do not keep looking and searching for tech jobs because that will cause three things: 1 - You will become miserable counting every single day until you can get back into tech. Rather advance your career and build your resume, show your flexibility in your CV, that you are able to manage projects for any type of company. 2 - From the company side you will have wasted the companies resources and time which they could have invested in other candidate. So don't be that guy. 3 - You will burn the bridge with that company forever The flexibility of PMs again is that projects are everywhere. Chances of stability on another industries are way higher. Keep your head up, you will eventually land a job either in a tech company or on another industry

[@JoanneC-k1k]

Wow! there aren't 200 jobs in my field at my level in the state I live in! My job is a licensed professional job that does not have easy reciprocity from state to state. It is why I am in business for myself.

[@mrL9122]

About to get my first paycheck after 12 months of serious job search and two offers that fell through. Local government seems to be the best option right now I had the most interviews what's the state. After being a finalist for five different state jobs I finally got an offer. Very happy with where I landed.

[@Elite54.]

I wrote a comment on your previous video. I would say pivot from product manager altogether. why do you want to back to product management if you are at risk of getting cut again? Try another role. I recommend getting a temporary job when you are working on your pivot! Goodluck

[@Life_with_Jeremy]

Thankfully got a job in Product Management again, but this is a good question. I focused on getting a job in PM because the market was super tough and me trying to pivot to a different tech role would have me competing with people who already have experience in those roles looking for a job. In terms of completing pivoting out of PM and tech, I could see that being a viable option for someone if that's a route they want to pursue and avoid the uncertainty that comes with tech.

[@carolyntnguyen]

I've done by Uber, Uber Eats, Lyft and Roadie every time I get laid off. Heck, I still do it despite the fact that I don't need to. I now work for the State. It's been 4 months now and I love it! It will be hard for them to get rid of me! I'm also a part of COASTFire. #selfmade Good Luck to you! Tech is brutal.

[@mr.random8447]

Entirely stopped applying, the ROI isn’t worth it

[@montipellier]

Why not allocate your applications to tech (50%), and other industry verticals (ex: healthcare 25%, finance 25%). You could also augment your resume/CV to allign more with the JD.

[@SweetKarki-nv8wp]

I have been looking for a job for 2 years since I got laid off. No luck.

[@Life_with_Jeremy]

This is SO rough...I'm sorry. If you want to chat w/ a community to discuss job hunting stuff, check out the video description. I linked to two communities I'm running. The job hunters one is a bit newer with fewer members, and the other one has more discussions around career topics.

[@SweetKarki-nv8wp]

@@Life_with_Jeremy I will check it out! Thanks!

[@DarrenRivey]

Hiring manager knows who they are going to hire before the job is posted and HR puts employee referrals at the top of the stack. The remainder of the applicants are tossed.

[@mfrancisco_850]

3 years searching here never give up

[@chibba]

entry lvl sales job and I am at 1 year+ lmao. I am glad I am semi-rich, but it is stressful making to final and then not hired. I see the company hiring people with no experience coming out of army, I was like oh man... Funny part is that I get 1-2 interviews per a week but I just can't get an offer lol

[@WutherWave-qc3ud]

That’s my dream job and entry level sales.. even you got it hard that’s crazy 1 year+

[@mberu14]

is best to get a regular 9-5 job that pays the bill dont want to be behind that and get evicted from your apartment is better than having no money

[@oliviariv]

I've been trying to do this for weeks now, but I'm even being rejected from minimum wage jobs because I don't have experience folding other people's laundry. You need 5 years experience to do literally anything now.

[@chrischong6197]

will u consider working in singapore or hong kong . the market is good here !

[@Canadian-Boi-]

Maybe you should consider starting at the bottom in a BA position

[@Okkal464]

I cold apply for hundreds a week and have only had 1 brief interview in 3 months

[@savio8976]

God bless Jeremy 😎❤️🙏

[@SkyBear0509]

Jeremy this is mavic your former landlord. Just ran into your videos by coincidence. Truly with you bear of luck as you were a decent person during your time in my property. If needed feel free to list me as your personal reference. Good luck !

[@Life_with_Jeremy]

thank you! This KZbin algorithm is too good at pushing my videos to my contacts 😅

[@christopherort2889]

You can always start your own business

[@spino1i]

Yeh you just need clients lol

[@R3ddishMakes]

^^^ ...and money for the lawyers, registration fees, taxes, digital property purchases (domains and emails), tools and marketing, etc, etc. It's not so easy to just up and start a business legally unless you have some major collateral and support to work with. Increasing regulations add to that. People who say things like this haven't experienced what it's like to not have that as an option.

[@donniemoder1466]

Keep trying, trying trying.

[@SiriFlorida]

I feel you. Please don’t give up. Keep pushing… you have some plans… 👍 cheers!

[@visby2548]

It's not you, it's just supply and demand. Lots of people competing for those jobs. Hopefully things work out soon, looks like the job market will take another downturn here after tech earnings.

[@BABEEBEEH]

maybe take a paycut , tech seems to have a lot of opp but pay may not match

[@micahtron5000]

You should pivot but not necessarily out of tech. If this channel is supposed to help you get a job, where is your linked in? Git? You dont have to be a devolper to produce a portfolio.

[@JaimeBurciaga]

Have you try to remove skin tags from nose?

[@waliamanik1]

Are you looking for a job in the same geographical area?

[@aunguyen84]

Are you in the Bay Area?

[@Life_with_Jeremy]

nope

[@Nikotromus]

Ususally the recession starts when interest rates are cut. Things could look much, much worse 6 months from now.

[@LLPforlife]

I have finished PhD in Math in Sydney and became a teacher. I just don't care about finding a job that fits my education. Who wants to work somewhere where he will be tortured, disrespected, and pushed to work 50 or 60 hours per week. Don't accept that. Just don't, that's my advice. Show dignity and self-respect and let the corporations suffer.

[@kindoblue]

50+ here, I stopped looking. Tired to be interviewed by kids with blue hair. The industry is fu**ed

[@BigBrother04]

Hehehe. I'm 49. My cto is 29. The other dev on the team has a ring in the nose. But they are cool 😂😂😂

[@Bitcoin_Gold]

Lmao there is no jobs or tech jobs. It's all been hiring over seas other countries. So give up. Only jobs are low wage jobs

[@omegacon4]

Tell me you have no clue what you're doing career-wise without telling me you have no clue what you're doing career-wise. Glad to see all those Tech employees knocked down a peg as they humbly realize that jobs in the real world do NOT come easy and do NOT offer free massages, mocha lattes, dry cleaning, and 3 course meals.

[@aerohk]

Many great stable fields outside of tech. Aerospace/defense, telecom, energy, utility, government. Chill, stable, and pays the bills. With a Trump admin, these fields will probably hire even more.

[@VaxisPraxis]

1) Find some other people start a company. 2) Make your own company alone. 3) Change careers into anything else, use job market research to find an in demand job.

[@censoredeveryday3320]

Yeah because it's just that simple.

[@chang-kp9sp]

Out of job ? Then how do you pay for internet bills?

[@john_mccarthy_hi]

people can have money without a job. are you not aware of this phenenomon?

[@minombre5555]

Apply for an entry-level job in construction. You will most likely get hired.

[@joshishiv1848]

Apply for an entry-level job in construction. You will most likely get hired.

[@712818]

Weren't you a "dating coach"? What happened with that?

[@JollyHell]

Sometimes being your own boss is managing your own YT channel and monetizing it. The market conditions could get worse after the election. The market crash with mass layoffs. Inflation on medical and cost of living are root causes but the market not dropping prices on anything the Rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer will push us overboard no matter what happens in the election.

[@skc-wg2yq]

medical industry is booming...i'm sure your tech skills they will need

[@savio8976]

God bless Jeremy ❤️🙏👍

[@keithp761]

You sound like you're from London

[@minombre5555]

Not at all!

[@Canadian-Boi-]

Wow even after your viral video no one hired you?

[@ThePred2009]

get into cybersecurity theres a massive shortage

[@gadflyofhumanity_6847]

stfu with that goddamn lie. That's about as much bs as the STEM shortage

[@Macmood21]

@@ThePred2009 not true the field is oversaturated

[@davidstock2713]

08-15, 21-24. Send hallmark card. Also donate what you have left to there rewarding campaigns.

[@PsychoSpiral]

I dunno man, worse comes to worst, you might have to start looking overseas.

[@delubiod1970]

Why not open your own business? Try to find a couple friends who wants to start something.... Maybe a MicroBakery (not expensive to start).... become your own boss..... I've done that, no regrets.

[@SKYMONKEY42]

I’m already in the process of getting licensed for opening my own business (self-employment) for computer repair and printer installation. I’m no longer wasting my time hoping for a job. I’m blessed to have a spouse that is knowledgeable in opening LLCs. I’ve already been doing this as a side thing for free just to help people but now it’s going to become a self-employed business for me to do. I can start small and work my way into more complex tasks until I have enough, comfortable knowledge to decide if I wish to grow into something bigger. Right now it’s about keeping food on the table. All these other companies can shove this🖕

[@VaxisPraxis]

I'm ready. If you can't beat the companies be come a company.

[@terryhatfield4253]

Yeah, this job market sucks big time. I am voting Trump next time.

[@poulticegeist]

This guy hopes to find a job through luck instead of providing any reasons showing why he's the best one for the job. PMs are a dime a dozen that became a thing during the ZIRP days. Even engineers who bring actual value are struggling to find jobs.

[@john_mccarthy_hi]

ironically if he was good at what he claims to want a job at he would have a job

[@Floorguy1985]

What did you expect when Biden and Harris were voted in😂. With open borders good luck getting a job😮

[@J.Shabazz]

Go become a teacher

[@ozlemelih]

Give up

[@joshishiv1848]

3 years searching here never give up

[@joshishiv1848]

Apply for an entry-level job in construction. You will most likely get hired.

[@joshishiv1848]

I'm burnt out from interviewing.

[@joshishiv1848]

Weren't you a "dating coach"? What happened with that?