I Was Wrong About Potemkin...

Well everyone…I was wrong. About Potemkin. At Texas Showdown 2023, Snake Eyez made history by showing us that any character can win a major Guilty Gear Strive tournament, even if it’s a terrible grappler character. Here is my reaction to the Top 8 and sets from players like Snake Eyez, LordKnight, Zippy, and more!
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Arc System Works (Arcsys) has recently made Guilty Gear Strive, the latest entry in the Guilty Gear franchise! This fighting game is heralded for its use of Rollback Netcode, included on all platforms Playstation 4 (PS4), Playstation 5 (PS5), and PC (Steam). Recently Arcsys has released it's latest season pass character, Sin Kiske!
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[@Hazzzyyyyyy]

Snake Eyes is just insane. He stuck to his main and optimized the character to such a threatening level.

[@TheBlackJello]

Yeah so do all the top players

[@MegaJackolope]

@@TheBlackJello you upset?

[@BackOff_xd]

​​@@TheBlackJelloi mean, what is unique tho is that Snake Eyez mains Heavyweight Grapplers, they always start in a Uphill battle, but once they get in, they just Hit a Thanos on the opponent.

[@yummines]

Crazy how someone who's played grapplers for at least 12 years wins a single tournament and suddenly Pot was actually good the whole time.

[@BackOff_xd]

I mean, Snake Eyez enlighted to the public that Potemkin is actually something that you can win a Tournament with, he has enough tools to punish well and erase Health bars like how he should, he is defo on the Mid-tier shenanigans in like 3rd Strike Hugo, they can take lots of hits while hitting like trucks, but still have it hard to approach so and are mistake-reliant.

[@Vanfernal]

Potemkin didn't win that tournament. Snake Eyez won that tournament. This is not proof that Potemkin is "godlike", it's a testament to how amazing Snake Eyez is as a player.

[@breadaholic6445]

But also potemkin op daisuke please nerf

[@jessierocket8227]

No one said Potemkin is godlike x)

[@Vanfernal]

@@jessierocket8227 Using Kizzie rhetoric lol. He said Potemkin is really good while downplaying Ky in the same video when Potemkin is in the worst state he's been since the release of Strive.

[@juiceyspice8671]

Yea bro 100%, using one off tournment results is not a good metric of character strength. Now if that character places well consistently and a larger percentage of places are filled by that character (relative to characters popularity), that says something. But a one off does not mean much. Tired of dude saying that X character is broken because single player placed well once.

[@Vanfernal]

@@juiceyspice8671 EXACTLY! Not only a one off. But Snake Eyez, who is arguably the best Potemkin in the world right now. The guy has insane reflexes. It's like the narrative that Blanka is broken just cause Mena won CEO with him.

[@CallmeTrimtab]

Potemkin ruined Zangief for me. He's too fun.

[@doomkid360]

Fr tho, I've been playing a lot of zangief and I HELLA wish he had a move more identical to heat knuckle or HPB 😭

[@uchihajunior5648]

@@doomkid360 at least zangeif's version of heavely potemkin buster is a true anti-air in sf6.

[@doomkid360]

@@uchihajunior5648 HONESTLY if it was just a little bit faster, I would be really happy about it. I feel like the only time I actually land it is when they're just floating above me.

[@Kono_Dio-Da]

​@uchihajunior5648 It's really not, it's 11 frames after the flash, and misses a lot in the corner

[@uchihajunior5648]

@@Kono_Dio-Da i mean that it have some invencibility.

[@jmarx3943]

I always appreciated zangief, but Potemkin in strive was the first grappler I HAD to try. He's so fun. Thanks to Potemkin, I have a pocket gief in sf6.

[@alexrowe7063]

Snake eyez is such a legend. A God amongst men in the grappler society.

[@fightedmealready2692]

I think the reason a lot of people don’t consider Pot that good even with hos damage is it’s not that hard to get damage like that with most characters in this game. Honestly my mind still gets blown by how much damage a raw Volcanic Viper does

[@DuvJones]

Well, the thing is that some match-ups for Pot are simply a nightmare. Zoners in any capacity have his number for almost free. The thing is, that is the job... you fail for even a second, you have to deal with a mauling big man with that damage. It doesn't last long.

[@Mr.Voyager51]

I'm an Axl main and I can tell you that fighting a high level Potemkin Like Snake Eyez or ClownLore is WAY different than fighting one at mid level. I've gotten games of them but its very hard to take sets of them. But it's still a good learning experience nonetheless.

[@UltimateHansford]

Snake Eyez has been doing this for years going back to a hyper fighting and SF4. Inspiring people into thinking they can play these grapplers. He’s just really a different breed.

[@DanTheMagic8Ball]

Zangief, Potemkin, Iron Tager, King of Dinosaurs, Ladiva, Kanji. They all teach how to block like a god. So once a grappler is comfortable with their character, the non-grappler has to try twice as hard for a confirm, and still get the combo off when they do. I feel like a mid level grappler player can beat higher level people who don't know the match up. But ultimately I feel like it's a rock, paper, scissors situation most of the time. I'll dog most of the cast in SF6 using Gief, but JP makes me want to ritualistically un-alive myself.

[@DanTheMagic8Ball]

I can't believe i forgot Waldstein

[@Altares_V]

Waldstein is more than just a grappler imo

[@TKBadMoon]

One of the best fighting game players of all time wins a single large tourney over several years and grappler up-players immediately on meats.

[@ScrodumHat]

yeah honestly, the moment a grappler player does well everyone comes out of the woodwork saying the grappler was never bad

[@BackOff_xd]

On a honesty, still proves that Potemkin is ready to win a Tournament, even on that times.

[@Sheffdawg2305]

​@BackOff_xd but it's not the character, it's the player.

[@BackOff_xd]

@@Sheffdawg2305 i mean, still. Potemkin, even on that cirscumstances, was shown to be enough to win a tournament by someone specialized, now count him in Season 3 with his buffs and things.

[@sirnarwhal9911]

1:47 That's because Pot needs it for his CMD Grab to be worth it. He can do similar or more DMG with just his combos and get better Oki than the Grab offers. Pot is a meter expensive character and he needs the meter to get in and stay in against those high level players. He's a different animal when meter is on the screen.

[@slainmaster1997]

Also Fast Cancel PRC doesn't apply the penalty to meter gain that you'd get otherwise if you let the PRC rock. So if you get good at Fast Cancel PRC Buster not only does that let you threaten Buster from even more situations and slightly better distance than Kara Buster (especially out of Hammerfall), you also get nearly refunded on meter spent for the PRC depending on how quickly you did the Fast Cancel.

[@uchihajunior5648]

The reason potemkin builds so much meter is becouse he doesn't have a ragular dash, airdash or a run, i think it's the case even before strive, the fewer regular movement options a character have the bigger is their avarege meter gain, like giovanna that can dash but can't run gaining more meter per combo then other combo heavy characters, potemkin's case is more extreme becouse he can't foward dash, he can't run and he can't airdash, so everything he do build a shit ton of meter, the same for nagoriyuki.

[@austybosss3474]

Big fan of the content kizzie. I get everything you were saying about grapplers, but u gotta give snakeeyez credit for being a great player as well

[@salihninja]

IT DONT MATTER WHAT U SAY BOTEMKIN COMBOS RULE YOUR HATRED FOR GRAPPLERS ONLY FUELS YOUR 1 WAY TICKET TO THE HEAVENS ( i love u kizzy).

[@avery6515]

Slay

[@krausier]

Snake eyes are on a whole different level than most grappler mains this dude made leo look like a chump.

[@IandIMspentI]

There are other ways to compliment Snake Eyez. Didn't have to title it a "Potemkin" video and only include him. Just tell him you're a fan of his work lol Because no other Potemkin is winning majors.

[@cactophone4552]

i think playing a grappler is about getting in your oppnents head which makes winning with them even more satisfying cuz you won on screen and are now prolly living in their head rent free for a while

[@theuzi8516]

It's so satisfying when a friend openly swears off jumping against you lol. On the downside, you can't have hype jump reads anymore...

[@123nicanor]

Everybody does Explosive damage on this game, some can even do it from a simple normal move. Potemkin has to grab you though..........

[@onedown9000togo]

Not any justification but just legit explaining why he was able to do that full screen. Giganter Kai (Shock Barrier), has a lifetime of 464 frames, OR after it hits 3 times. So you're either giving up the full screen, or fuzzy blocking Giganter Kai (assuming you don't have a way through it, eg I-No's Stroke the Big Tree can go underneath the barrier).

[@hockey1973]

It doesn't matter how low tier Potemkin is or how he's perceived. A good solid Potemkin can make for a loooooooong night. . . .

[@Saskaruto16]

Grapplers also get a major tournament buff, same with zoners. Adrenaline and fear mixed with knowing your time to adapt is extremely limited puts pressure on people, which causes them to default into patterns and play more risk adverse, both of which benefit the grappler player, and the zoner to a lesser extent.

[@OldManSilencer]

Why does potemkin get so much meter after prc grab? he rapid cancels the prc for the command grab which cuts the meter gain penalty in half. he completely recovers from the meter penalty of using a prc by the time he gains the meter for potemkin bustering so he's awarded the full meter gain for the throw. they could nerf it but probably shouldn't because outside of already being in potemkin has relatively bad meter gain just playing neutral and needs to commit to gain meter despite being a meter hungery character this allows his offense to snowball well while not allowing him to have bursts of activity from meter gain in neutral except after a slower gain. I know that kizzie knows this but most people watching probably don't The baiken far slash that whiffed is because garuda is very disjointed. it is visually deceptive but like so are reversals and 6ps due to just hurt boxes. garuda kinda needs to be disjointed like that for some of potemkin's offense structure to work with the spacing traps that it creates. visually it is dumb and it looks like potemkin should be hit but it's not the only example of weird looking interactions but potemkin also kinda needs that otherwise large parts of how he backs up situations sort of fall apart and people would just be mashing 6P in a lot of his block strings. like every time someone blocked a 6k if garuda didn't retract like that you could just mash 6p and i'd punish him doing nothing, hit flick and garuda which would mean that he couldn't 6k unless it was really far away which is a huge staple of how he builds out offense and that's just one situation of that being important. right now you have to jump garuda either on a read, reaction, or fuzzy all of which can be targeted by flick. again I know kizzie knows this and if this were like a break down video instead of a highlighted watch along he could express these points.

[@bekomon]

The worst part is fighting random online Pot palyers. You know they are just farming for twitter clips the whole match. Even if I end up winning, getting hit by 1 pot buster feels like an L.

[@donclyburn9497]

The big thing Potemkin is missing from the past is his crouching slash used to be fewer frames and it had a vacuum effect (lol) so yeah imagine that with all the RC's. A few other things are just slower or lower damage . Potemkins forward HS used to hit like ... An ultimate on low HP chars and like a heavy special move on higher ones. His throws and specials were nice but I. No way needed in games before xrd.

[@drummachine77]

Snake eyez is so damn godlike.

[@MrDrunkNFunky]

Potemkin would be cool to see in Tekken 8

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

Snake eyez really cooking Also I forgot that super lasted that long 😂

[@cheshirect]

The sad part is that pot has to alter so many of his combos when fighting baiken because her hurt box is weirder/smaller than other members of the cast. frustrating

[@ASD_OW]

I’m ngl I normally like ur videos but I feel like you spent the whole video just complaining about pot and ignored how godlike snake eyez is.

[@lamewjosephchavis8708]

Potemkin is by far the most vicious of grapples in the 2D fighting games genre. In the right hands, he is more than a problem... Case in point. I love this match up in GGS.

[@rinkujoka232]

Ofc its snake eyes..... You run and abort all the common strat when facing him

[@ZetaRevolution]

Losing to a pot means that you don't know neutral. Mf literally don't have an air dash or a foward dash.

[@OSFromTheCrypt]

I have been saying that about pot for a loooooong ass time and no one ever agrees its wild how good pot is super under rated

[@GuerrillaGorilla023]

I don't even main Potemkin but he quickly became my favorite Fighting Game character and Snake Eyez had a lot to do with that. I think he's just a fun character and watching him wreak havoc with his moveset brings a smile to my face.

[@Ashragi]

"I think zippy has no experience fighting potemkins" No joke, I can attest that saturday night Zippy was in the pot discord like "i have no clue how this matchup works, walk me through the basics" lmfao. No shade, when you ever fighting a pot of that level but damn, you can see him learning the matchup as the sets go.

[@aj991]

Everybody has a plan until they get command grabbed.

[@mastershake1071]

Me playing Jack-O trying to do a 174 damage combo: 5P > 6H(2) > 66PRC, (66) c.S > dl.6H(1st) > 236P, 5K > 236K&~214H, dl.c.S& > 2H > 214K, dl.c.S > 2H > 236K& WS, 4(4) (Detonation) 2D WS, [632146P] The Potemkin who did 175 damage to me when I dropped the combo: 360P > lmao "just don't get grabbed" < said by people who think relying their opponent to slip up so they can roll their stick and delete half a health bar rather than having to do anything actually difficult that requires practice is peak gameplay and skill. Potemkin players need to go play jump force or some other baby-mode fighting game, and both Pot's busters need heavy nerfs, especially since with the new update you can get heavenlied off of his 6P (the prayer clap) counter-hit or not, which is an 11 frame unreactable move with upper body invincibility. "oh he's so slow!" It doesn't matter. You are playing Pot's game now, and each mistake is going to cost you 40-60% of your heath bar. And if you take your time , poking when you can and playing safe? He gets meter, send out a shield wall, and forces most characters to either jump into a command grab or 6p, eat damage from the wall and ensuing megafist, or face a 50/50 that ends with another Potemkin buster. "He doesn't do well at higher tiers!" Of course not, high ranked players tend to make less mistakes, drop less combos, and know their matchups. A Potemkin player relies on his opponents mistakes and/or ignorance of the game and has multiple very easy to do methods to punish them. This is, fundamentally, BAD character design. Fighting games aren't balanced around the lower tier of players and there's good reasons for that, but somehow people will still defend the character that has been meticulously crafted to be oppressing ONLY to less experienced players while being almost useless in higher ranks. I would sooner get my ass handed to me 2-0 double perfect by a top 100 Ram 1000 times over than play a match against a Potemkin any floor above 5, because even if I win I still have to play Pot's game when I would like to be playing GGST.

[@rocket6108]

Snake Eyez is the the holy pinnacle of grappitalism

[@kirby2567]

If anything's become apparent with this game, The best characters win as soon as they have their opponents blocking. Pot is basically there but has a harder time pinning people down compared to the likes of Ram.

[@petergoodspieces130]

I think that the point kizzie is making in this video pretty useful to be aware off as a community both for the grappler players and anyone that fights them. Like just because Pot is the worst character in the game doesnt mean that he can't win. Especially because Pot is NOT the worst character in the game if you DONT KNOW how to properly fight and pick your options against a good Pot player Pot is really good at what he does and if you think that there's a predetermined win chance you have that is less just bcs you play Pot then that is only true if you BOTH know the mu perfectly. He is not by any means good on paper but people are downplaying Pot too much in my opinion, accept your loses and stop blaming your character, there's always something you could have done better and always a way that your opponent outplayed you.

[@jscriber100]

"Put those fingaz away, good sir." -IFCYipes the Legend

[@I_recommend_suicide]

Potemkin is the sickest character

[@dinonuggets7148]

maybe this is just a GG thing and im bad, but one of Pots biggest weaknesses (for me at least) is how mercilessly he can be combo'd. Happy chaos regularly sends me from corner to corner into area shift after 1 hit, and so do bedman, ino, and gio. I'm by no means good and GG is basically my first and only fighting game for now but damn is being a big body rough

[@davidwilkinson4634]

People saying its just snake eyes are coping hes really good but i fought multiple pots in celestial and hes so down played.

[@fluffdafire157]

In my time playing fighting games I learned fast to respect the grappler

[@peggels22]

My response to any clip of degenerate Potemkin shit “he needs it”

[@amia7z]

the funny grab

[@abyzzwalker]

What tournament was this?

[@That_man-hcu]

Texas showdown 2023

[@CrowFGC]

The Ky downplay in this video…

[@Pherna_1]

Every character can do it. This ain't the early 2000's anymore. EVERY character is good. There are NO bad characters. No, not even Sin.

[@MarkAvatar2012]

Finally someone important in the fgc said it!

[@Tomz921]

The lights in the background change a lot its very distracting

[@springmonkey6796]

pot op daisuke pls nerf

[@MrShagification]

honestly, all the cheap shit pot has is whatever, but why on earth does garuda need that massive of a disjoint?

[@sirnarwhal9911]

So you can space out some reversals and wake-up DP. His Garuda Pressure wouldn't be as strong if you can always mash out the 2nd Garuda or dodge it completely with a backdash. His Garuda is fine. The Garuda at launch was a problem.

[@EddieR42]

Word

[@sirnarwhal9911]

The Pot Downplayers have been real quiet ever since Snake Eyez won a tournament. 🤔

[@jessierocket8227]

As a main Potemkin with some main Potem friends, I've seen way more non-Potemkin players telling me our character suck and can't win anything once at a high level because "enter all kind of arguments which would be too long, boring and not worthy to counter-argument".

[@onyxshade5381]

Pot is okay at most levels of play. Imo needs buffs. There are a lot of ways and reasons he tends to struggle. He at heart is a feast or famine character. Just too many losing mus. People still downplay him because he sorta deserves it.

[@sexmansex4776]

only non pot players downplay him. real pot players gaslight the community to think he's op. glue togethe strong! 😎😎😎🫰

[@tigerar3976]

I'm glad that people will stop trying to gas light me when i tell them why i stop playing strive as much as I used to.

[@joaop5033]

Ok I will subscribe again