I Was WRONG About The Triumph Daytona 660!

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@michaelfoster2426 Ай бұрын

I bought my 660 last Saturday and I’ve already added 1400 kilometres to the odometer. I can’t get enough of riding this bike on the freeways and the countryside twisties of southern Sydney. It’s quite addictive. The Daytona 660 hasn’t put a foot wrong; the engine is a torque hound anywhere in the rev range, the brakes are strong and give great feedback through the upside down forks and Michelin power 6 tyres. It feels quite planted through turns, even in bumpy corners there’s scant understeer, it’s confidence building. My only complaint is there’s no high beam flashing switch or passing function available. In 30 years of riding this is the only bike I’ve had that doesn’t have this basic feature. Other than that what a bike. This is my first Triumph and what a triumphant purchase I’ve made.

@braaaaaaaaaaap Ай бұрын

Torque hound! 50lb/ft heh

@paulfowler6665 Ай бұрын

Everyone says the GSX8R is the best bike in this category but this is far better looking and not another parallel twin.🙄

@eikonise Ай бұрын

I cannot for the life of me understand the praise the GSX8r gets; it's the second worst in class after the Ninja 650. for more relaxed position, the Daytona and CBR650r are objectively better in every possible way. if you want a more aggressive riding position then get the R7 (the Aprilia RS660 is in a different price bracket).

@SongJLikes Ай бұрын

The Rs660 is the CLEAR winner in this category…. Until you ride/operate/own one, you won’t know.

@NicePantsLance Ай бұрын

@@SongJLikesthe only thing CLEAR is that the Daytona 660 is $2300 cheaper than the Aprilia. For the price of the Aprilia, you can have a Daytona fully kitted out with exhaust, dyno tune, and quickshifter. Not to mention, theres more Triumph dealers around, the 660 triple is proven reliable, and sounds a lot better than just another parallel twin. Aprilia might be better on the spec sheet, but after that its pretty clear which one gives you better value for the money

@SongJLikes Ай бұрын

@@NicePantsLance - until you RIDE an Rs660, you will continue to be wrong… ^and that is BEFORE the tune/exhaust… WITH the tune and exhaust, the Rs660 is THE BEST sportbike for the road. Take that to the f’n bank.

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Having spent a LOT of time on the GSX8R I think it's an awesome machine. It's the most comfortable for me by far, has loads of low end grunt and handles very well for a sporty road bike. It has excellent track manners too and I put in my fastest time at Cadwell on one. It has some drawbacks, such as a clunky quickshifter and the pegs are a bit too low for track days but these are minor gripes. I find the Daytona, CBR and RS660 to have a more focused riding position but still not terribly uncomfortable. Just not all day comfortable like the GSX8R for me. End of the day, this category is getting packed and that is only really good for us consumers. More choice is great!

@Manu_Air228 Ай бұрын

Yesterday I was at the local Triumph dealer and was absolutely astonished how beautiful this bike looks. Pictures and videos really don't do the Bike justice, you have to see it for real. That said, here in Germany it costs the same as the Aprilia RS 660 and it is objectively worse in pretty much everything spec-sheet wise, so I don't know if I can justify buying it by the looks alone - given that the RS660 also isn't looking too shabby

@chrisreed3929 Ай бұрын

Encourage a RS660 to have a child with the Daytona and then adopt it. Seriously, you can't go too wrong with either

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

RS660 is amazing. Sadly we have a terrible Aprilia dealer network here and they have a bit of a bad rep with reliability. So those might sway some people.

@anxietydisorders5917 Ай бұрын

no way an Daytona 660 cost the same of rs660, in italy you can find daytona 660 for like 8k

@Manu_Air228 Ай бұрын

@@anxietydisorders5917 unfortunately not in Germany. Here you pay for both bikes exactly 10k. Even more for the Daytona if you want the quickshifter (with discount you still get it below 10k, but same goes for the RS660)

@justdad53 Ай бұрын

Buy the Triumph and forget the spec sheet. You won't ever ride the spec sheet.

@scottyphillis Ай бұрын

I think the initial excitement of a test ride can obscure perception of a bike. I found out recently when I traded in my MT09 for an MT10sp. It was a thrilling bike but ultimately it didn’t fulfill my actual needs but it took me two months to properly realise that. Took me a further two months to tell the mrs I wasn’t happy with it and was trading it back in 😂

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Yeah, I still get a little overexcited too! Bikes are so much fun!

@tonydare7614 Ай бұрын

As a midlife crisis-er and KZbin bike video junkie, I've changed bikes 10 times in 5 years based often on reviews. I didn't test this one because nearly all reviewers talked about the front end vagueness. But your point is very true, we can't really assess a bike in a few hours, always. I currently own an R12 Ninet and have decided to trade in for the upcoming Tiger 800 Sport before I'm influenced by the journalists. First time I've ever bought a bike on specs alone, so hoping it won't disappoint.

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Yeah, it's difficult to really know a bike and 1 hour isn't enough. I think dealers should let people out for at least a day with a deposit. I guess the issue is there will be people who just want to ride the bikes and not buy.

@tonydare7614 Ай бұрын

@Englishbikerdan true. In Paris, they often give you 30-40 minutes! You do get an overall impression but it takes you longer just to get onto a motorway or out of traffic jams here 😂 Looking forward to the new Tiger 🐯

@hakanunal5300 Ай бұрын

Same here.😊

@jakubkaczmarczyk6671 Ай бұрын

@@Englishbikerdan it's not a problem for a Honda, Kawasaki and MV Agusta dealer in Poznań, Poland ;) I've rode some bikes from them for a weekend i I've chosen one for me :)

@jacobellw Ай бұрын

Really loved this video. I enjoyed the recap and further breakdown. Thanks Dan! Also I'm enjoying the lil selfie video bit at the start of the videos you've been doing lately. Really nice and personal touch :D

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!

@Sunesen Ай бұрын

That tripple engine is so nice. I've been looking at getting a V-Strom 800 RE, but my local Triumph dealer gave me a really good fall offer on a Tiger Sport 660 which I test-rode and that thing just flies and sounds amazing and seems to have pretty much everything I would need from a bike. Choices are difficult. XD

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Good choice!

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Ай бұрын

Your getting a good deal on it because there will be a new update soon enough. They can't upgrade the Trident so heavily for 2025 and leave the existing Tiger Sport 660 as is. I would hang on for a couple of months.

@Sunesen Ай бұрын

@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Yeah, I'm well aware that they are trying to push the Sport 800 and that the 660 has been left hanging without the update the Trident got. The end of the story though is that the Suzuki dealer I was talking to got back to me with an amazing deal on the V-Strom 800 RE, so that is the one I'm going with. Pretty sure I'll be very happy with that choice. :)

@brianchristensen1475 Ай бұрын

Like the review, but is the left hand grip further out than on the Right? It looks like they are uneven from the big gap between the left and a much smaller one on the right?

@rbattson7171 Ай бұрын

Thanks

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

@braaaaaaaaaaap Ай бұрын

Can't believe that's the dash though.

@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST Ай бұрын

I think that feeling is initially the difference between the last bike you ride and that one. Like muscle memory.

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

I was riding a V-Strom before the test ride though! :D

@BIBuildy Ай бұрын

Another beautiful bike from Triumph. I saw a red one at the dealer and it looks stunning in person.

@ApexRadius Ай бұрын

Dan, strangely enough, as I recall, the rider triangle is very close to the CBR. I believe the main difference is that the Daytona 660 has a closer and slightly lower bar placement. So, you might be rotated a little more forward and your legs are just a little less folded up. The Daytona is also narrower. I wonder if that's why the pegs feel a bit more relaxed.

@TwinPotMan Ай бұрын

Dan, when I test road the 660 this summer, I found the front end vague as though the tyre pressure was low and so I only road it for a very short while before returning to the dealer and reporting what I'd experienced. The dealer seemed quite disinterested so I decided it wasn't the bike for me, which was disappointing given that I've previously owned Speed Triple R, Street Triple 675RS and Street Triple 765R. So the point you make is very valid and it's coincidental that you felt the same on first impression.

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

It's a strange one. Shame as once you get used to it, it's a fun road bike.

@garyeverett8757 Ай бұрын

Good honest review as always Dan. I have a Trident 660 and love the sound of the triple. I do like the Daytona 660 will have to arrange a test ride.

@ajv4394 Ай бұрын

Dan it seems you need to raise the forks 5-6mm higher, it may solve the front end for sure

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

If it were my bile that's an option.

@ShizzoGames Ай бұрын

Got this one 4 weeks ago as my first bike. I watched like every video/review on the internet about it and was torn between the 8R and this one. Even with all the reviewers being kinda "meh" over this bike. As a new rider with zero experience except driving school I ofcourse have no comparison to other bikes. But Iam not biased to the old daytona name, also. So far I love this bike. I use it for daily commuting a few kilometers mostly, but also use it for touring. Longest trip was like 5 hour riding with an one hour break inbetween. The power is more than enough for me, the bike peaks at around 215-220 kph what is more than enough for me. The power is good and enough to follow an 120 PS bike easily on the road. ;) The bike is comfy enough to do day trips with a break here and there. Customization is a bit tricky for there are few special parts - like exhausts. Iam not sure about if the 660 trident exhausts work with this one because of the higher power of the daytona.

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Great to hear you're enjoying the bike!

@garyburton6833 Ай бұрын

Morning Dan, i currently own a tiger sport 660 amd as you say that engine and induction sound is addictive. Great review.

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Thanks Gary! Tempted by the Tiger Sport 800?

@garyburton6833 Ай бұрын

@Englishbikerdan yes, looking forward to a test ride as im on the triumph list.

@eikonise Ай бұрын

To me, this bike and the CBR650 are the class leaders within the "everyday" middleweight sport bike category. The R7 is such a weird combo of supersport ergos and street engine. The Ninja is only a couple hundred less than the Daytona (with ABS) and its more like $1000 less bike. The Suzuki is heavier, pricier, less powerful and only has about the same torque as the Daytona.

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Yeah R7 is an odd one! Focused position but lacking oomph.

@nockianlifter661 Ай бұрын

I must say I enjoy my Tuono 660 factory.

@johnnyhun1 Ай бұрын

zx4rr bro

@FraserWest-um4ue Ай бұрын

Very good video and I do agree with the looks of the 660 Daytona sport very price but the quick shift for the gearbox should definitely be an option for the bike it could be the tyres on the bike when you go faster it might be worth trying them with different tyres on and see if that makes any difference

@elwalker9034 Ай бұрын

Currently on a CBR300R, which has been great, but instead of progressing w/I the brand lineup to the 650R, I'm leaning toward the Daytona. Only questions are on reliability. Something I don't worry about w/ Honda.

@michaelfoster2426 Ай бұрын

Hi there, I was wanting the CBR650R because I’m a Honda fan and their build quality and reliability is virtually unmatched. However they didn’t release the unrestricted power version in Australia so I went with the Triumph Daytona 660 instead . Reliability wise ; well Triumph supply the engines for all the Moto 2 class racing bikes in MotoGP . That’s a high pressure, high performance environment. If they are reliable enough for Moto 2 they’re probably going to be good enough for us mere mortals 😊

@ragerider6283 Ай бұрын

Interesting vid. It's seemingly the geometry that's slightly off. Not sure what the front /rear bias is but it possibly needs to be more towards the front than it currently is. Knowing Triumph, they'll probably take on board the feedback sooner rather than later & sort it out whatever it is as it's really the only fly in the ointment with this bike. That & no QS as standard which is easily fixed albeit with a small price hike.

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Yeah, I think they've gone for a more weight backwards bias to make it more comfortable for newer riders. No QS is such a strange choice to me.

@ragerider6283 Ай бұрын

@Englishbikerdan Agree with both points. Both easily fixed & the additional cost of the QS would at worst make it the same price as the competition so no reason not to.

@astrostrotch Ай бұрын

My initial impression on test ride was that the rear could do with a bit more ride height. Maybe an adjustable ride height shock would be the answer, which would sharpen up the steering. I wonder if the shock top mount is similar to the Street triple where you can jack it up with a spacer. That would be too easy...

@rbattson7171 Ай бұрын

It's basically a fun bike for the road, just not a track bike, triumph have other bikes for that. I own the trident, which is enjoy very much. Wouldn't trade, unless they put this daytona engine in the trident in the future. Thanks for the video.

@LeoBlitz999 Ай бұрын

Can you possibly consider this bike for long journeys, like 2-3 hrs intervals between breaks.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Ай бұрын

I have one, yes no problem. Stock seat is comfy, legs have room and the stock suspension is nice and compliant, not too firm at all. They can be a little wristy but you do acclimatise. A tank bag is the classic way of adding a bit of comfort to a Sportsbike style which is an option. Are there better bikes for this? Sure, but its doable on this.

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Yeah I think so.

@twistandgo3414 Ай бұрын

Interesting! I have to say I reviewed this bike too and thought was really good so was surprised to see your comments on the previous review. I think if I didn’t already have the extra performance of the 765RS I would have 100% bought one of these. In fact, given the fairing, it’s still tempting but ( for me) the 765RS is still the better road and certainly track bike but do love the look of it. A Cosmic yellow model be great. Additionally, I think sometimes there’s a pressure to get reviews out asap and you actually need more time with a bike to really understand how it ticks and to live with. Great review Dan totally agree. 👌🏼👍🏼😎

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Yep, I also think mindset plays into it. If I'm stressed, I'm not having as much fun. I think dealer loans will really be a last resort, or I'll have to frame them in a very different way. As I need more time on a bike to understand it.

@hakankillberg6043 Ай бұрын

Thanks for a great video. I felt the same way when i testrode it the first time. Felt it was ok but the second time i loved it. Not so much of the riding position its ok but far better on the Suzuki Gsx8r. But as you say the engine is so lovely. In this class its win over all other bikes with that torque from standing still uptil higher rpms. Thats the beauty of a triple and also the sound from the engine its amazing. I really love the Gsx8r but this engine and the looks of this bike is far better. For its price i do think a quickshifter and better suspension should be included from the start. Even the bluetooth module you have to pay extra for its silly. I hope they dont go up in cc because then always the prices of the bike and insurance rises. No you dont need more horses because of this lovely engine. I see now that Trident come with standard fitted quickshifter for 2025 so the Daytona have to follow that. I wait and see for the 2025 model to see the upgrades. Would be nice to see more color options as well. The red looks great but not the other. Dont like matt finishes like on the black version.

@ragimundvonwallat8961 Ай бұрын

what can make the front look bizaroo for no reason is waxy brand new tire ,maybe its that, but im no expert

@AgricUltra Ай бұрын

I just can’t get past the dash. The bit you look at all the time while riding makes the whole thing look cheap.

@grtbgf Ай бұрын

The cockpit view is kinda poor.. loads of black plastic, those fork tops, and that dash... alluminum frame imitation on the sides...otherwise, a very pretty bike, but not special enough... so I went with Aprilia. Triumph will probably update it in a year with everything people wanted on it though.

@johns1139 Ай бұрын

But isn’t the suspension on this bike still sub-par?

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Not at all. Pretty good general setup for the road.

@markstaley5922 Ай бұрын

Love your honesty Dan I felt the same way riding a friends 660 when he first bought it I just didn’t gel with that front end at speed but he loves it definitely tires I think 👍

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Yeah, good bikes but it just takes a while to gel with it I think. Tyre swap might be a good shout.

@FraserWest-um4ue Ай бұрын

I think it would be good if triumph builds the Daytona 800 bike but the bike will be more expensive than the 660 and the other question is will the 800 have more options on the bike

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

If we look at the Tiger 660 as a reference, we can guess IF a Daytona 800 comes out it would probably have cruise, or the option for it at least. I think a Daytona 800 is likely in 2025/6. Let's see!

@FraserWest-um4ue Ай бұрын

I agree with you completely on this one because the regulations for the engines will change again between 2025/26 therefore it’s likely triumph will bring new motor bikes

@sambam007 Ай бұрын

You think they will make a Daytona 800? After they announced the tiger sport 800

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

I really hope so!

@NicePantsLance Ай бұрын

I'm over here wishing for a Tiger 1200 Sport!! Lol

@ridgemills Ай бұрын

*Triumph enters with a bag of cash* "This bike is fan-tas-tic, the vagueness just disappeared!" 😂

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Haha, still waiting for my cheque!

@itzikca Ай бұрын

Perhaps tire pressure

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Checked and identical on both bikes.

@markstevens7442 Ай бұрын

How does it compare to a Str 765r?

@caylanfountain2163 Ай бұрын

It's a different class of bike... 😅

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

The trick is not to compare it to that bike. It's NOT a Street Triple. Against the competition, CBR650R, GSX8R it does quite well.

@Buch_ Ай бұрын

I really don't get why reviews are bad on this, maybe KZbinrs are just echo chambers of one another, maybe all of you have so much experience on bikes that the front end actually bothers you that much, I don't know. What I do know, is that I tried about 10 A2 bikes before buying my first one, and this one put the biggest smile on my face, so I ended up buying one. The funny thing? I wasn't even considering buying a sport bike at first, but wanted to try most types of bikes before pulling the trigger.

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

I just say how a bike feels to me.

@Buch_ Ай бұрын

@@Englishbikerdan Don't worry mate, it was not a personal attack. What I'm saying is that maybe hearing people talk down this bike created a bad apprehension for every reviewer. Anyhow, I'm glad you did this second take on it, keep up the good work, your channel is good!

@drsharma8256 Ай бұрын

I have this bike, I llove it :)

@greenbow7888 Ай бұрын

1440p ................ nice.

@johnflavin1602 Ай бұрын

So Triumph rang you and asked you to have another go?

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

LOL. Nope, I had to badger them quite a bit to get this bike.

@Parkyste Ай бұрын

Daytona 660 RS….

@bikegeist Ай бұрын

zomg how much did £riumph pay you to change your opinion?! Reeeee! Jkjk Your point on making bikes for the masses is an good one. I'd rather companies made affordable bikes and stayed solvent. 👍 Even if I don't like the dash and wish they did more sexy paint schemes.

@Englishbikerdan Ай бұрын

Haha! Yeah, most people who complained about it not being a 'real' Daytona would probably never buy that version of the bike anyway. It's a fantastic bike for what it is. Thanks!