I was wrong about this movie...

[@EMCproductions]

I made a whoopsie X-( The drumline @ 2:24 is Alabama A&M University

[@brodyssportscardsvlogsandm415]

I’m from Alabama!

[@CollinWestland]

@@brodyssportscardsvlogsandm415 i know someone who marches Drumline for Alabama A&M.

[@xxoreoxx1575]

@@brodyssportscardsvlogsandm415 ME TOOOO

[@kishascape]

You also didn’t run into copyright issues since you finally made a cadence video and sheet music for the movie anyways.

[@stellaondrums1662]

Hey, props to you Eric. You actually made a video to try to clear up your mistakes. Many other people would just either ignore the fact that they made a mistake or at most take their other video down. This just shows why you're a high quality creator, and I admire that. Keep up the good work! I love your videos because they're both informative and entertaining. Thank you so much for everything you do for the world of marching band!

[@EMCproductions]

Thanks!

[@112007Roman]

Way to show integrity, Devil. ^^

[@StanSethley]

I'm a corps style drummer, but I think it's so cool that you went back and corrected yourself in a genuine way. It's really cool to learn about another style you aren't familiar with. I'm looking forward to the next review video that you do with the experienced member of show style, I feel that it can teach me a lot!

[@LuckyOwI777]

Yeh. I march WGI, and I honestly had no idea that this more showy style of drumming and marching was a legitimate thing. I think it's awesome how he went back and corrected his mistakes, and I'm glad he did, cause I learned some very interesting things today

[@StanSethley]

@@LuckyOwI777 What group do you march for wgi?

[@LuckyOwI777]

@@StanSethley Motor City Percussion, or MCP as we call it, lol. It's an Independent Open class group

[@StanSethley]

@@LuckyOwI777 Oh cool! I just got a contract for Carolina Gold, it's an open class DCI group and the front Ensemble caption head is the same caption head as Equinox percussion, the world class wgi group in Dahlonega Georgia, so hopefully a season with him will get me good enough to make Equinox after the dci season.

[@LuckyOwI777]

@@StanSethley Oh cool! I love Equinox percussion so much. Good luck at Gold! Hope you have fun there, and hope you make Equinox! You'll do great!

[@tylertran6488]

Those tiny tenors look like Pringle cans

[@digitaldeathsquid3448]

They look like octobans/cannon toms

[@believinsteven]

They called rocket toms

[@tj1lincoln182]

They look like mini cannons

[@loafboynae]

Omg they call the tenors drum

[@coheedandgeddy2900]

ROCKET QUADS

[@davidhirschMD]

This is how a gentleman corrects his unintentional mistake. Thank you.

[@Tr3v0rUnKn0wN]

I wouldn't take it down Eric, it okay if a differing opinion is out there xD! And this 2nd video will lose it's context if people aren't able to go back and see the original. Just my opinion :). Love the vids!! *P.S-Technique video pleeeeese

[@calebward7227]

Trevor Hammond The problem isn't that he had a different opinion, it's that his information in many areas was *wrong*.

[@cadenweems]

I completely agree with the idea for technique videos! When trying to learn early on it's hard ro find a a reliable source. Eric has a ton of experience and has enough of a following for people to be able to find his videos easily

[@TheTheoTherone]

Lol. Now that he took it down the link in Antoine's reaction video's description goes to EMC's "box of coxx " video.

[@Tr3v0rUnKn0wN]

@@calebward7227 It wasn't wrong from the perspective of a corps style marcher. Show-band drumlines DO play with dirtier technique compared to what Eric and I are used to. Thinking that Show-Style drumlines, or the drummers in the movie aren't the best in the world is a PERFECTLY valid opinion. One I happen to hold ;p.

[@jordananderson9389]

He's just wrong, he doesn't having a differing opinion.

[@MutaliMusic]

MUCH RESPECT BRO! Thanks for the follow up video! ✊🏾 (And thanks for the channel traffic 😅) I’m definitely interested in collaborating with you on a video in the future!

[@QdAbArBeR]

Thank you for standing up for our HBCU Culture... I have had the pleasure of marching Corps and HBCU and I love the BOTH!!! But the both have to be respected on different levels! THANK YOU AGAIN!!!

[@ldchtc3005]

My high school band (a more corps style band) played agains Dekalb’s school and band. It was crazy watching them because we had never seen a show style band before. You do see the huge difference in audience reaction and they actually sounded really good.

[@khaliqjones8683]

Ldchtc 300 what school u go to fam

[@ldchtc3005]

Khaliq Jones Hiram High school You?

[@kalansandoval327]

Yeah bro DeKalb and Clayco are the spots for show style

[@khaliqjones8683]

Ldchtc 300 south Gwinnett

[@khaliqjones8683]

Kalan Sandoval oh yeah fasho I march at south Gwinnett but we show style are b director from dekalb

[@ATLDRUMACADEMY]

Yes I wouldn’t take it down either

[@start9976]

This is great, EMC is one of the few KZbinrs, or, just people in general that admits that he's wrong and he appreciated the people that told him that he was wrong, this is humanity at it's finest

[@KillaKevProd]

I appreciate this video. I wouldn't delete the old one tho 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@mummyman2115]

Regarding challenges: I attended Ohio State University and the OSUMB fields a band of 192 at half time, but there are actually 235 total band members. Band members challenge weekly for their spot at half time. Those that do not earn a spot on the field at half time are "alternates" for the week, still expected to learn the show and rehearse with their section and squad in case of an injury or illness creating a spot that needs to be filled. But at half time the alternates are assigned various tasks such as holding director ladders, (1-2 band members per ladder to set up at half time and stabilize during the show), moving equipment, collecting any dropped equipment during the show, and any number of other tasks that are actually quite important to keeping the shows running smoothly. But to keep everyone at the top of their game, all band members regardless of seniority must try out at the beginning of every season and then challenge every week for their spot on the field at half time.

[@naruto_uzumaki2012]

TBDBITL 142 member here. Student Staff holds the ladders. Alternates move props.

[@LamiksVideos1]

2:25 is not Prarie View. From their shirts "MMW" would indicate that they are the Marching Maroon and White from Alabama A&M.

[@jeremiahwilliams6816]

That clip was from when they battled PVAMU so I see why he got confused

[@LamiksVideos1]

@@jeremiahwilliams6816 👌🏾

[@bryfunkenstein]

I noticed that too. Pv had never used white drums...

[@clarkfletcher3142]

I’m glad you actually are trying to make sure you know what your talking about. That shows your true character and most people would never do that. Props to you man.

[@jamesseals5007]

As a person who marched 4 years for a university as a percussionist , and have alot of knowledge about the subject matter and would join you for a collab watch of the movie to offer proper context if you would like.

[@pablorivas1929]

james seals imagine trying to offer yourself to colab with emc

[@numberonebev]

_ Paintball _ You miss every shot you don’t take

[@jamesseals5007]

@@pablorivas1929 imagine him asking for someone who knows about the subject to reach out to him.....

[@LuckyOwI777]

@@pablorivas1929 ...did you miss the part in the video where he asked people to reach out to him that have experience with show style bands?

[@tylersibbett5523]

The tiny tenors are really cool

[@dburt215]

I marched in both styles...in high school I was in a Corp style band and in college I was in a show style/traditional style band...there is difference not a huge difference but a difference. The difference that I noticed was how much show style/traditional style is taken so seriously...it is literally a sport and at times a fraternity at some times lol I even received a scholarship as well lol it’s a lot of work but it’s so much fun lol

[@powergoose6188]

Me: mom can we get a tenor set Mom: we have a tenor set at home Tenor set at home 00:23

[@RishiJalukar]

Bruh

[@LavenderSystem69]

Honestly, having done both styles at some point or another, I'd argue it's less about the historical demographics of the line and more about what the line is trying to do. Corps style is about pleasing judges through strong discipline and uniform technique, and show style (or, as I've taken to referring to it, collegiate style) is about pleasing the crowd by being super flashy. At the end of the day, though, they're still largely the same activity, and the objective is still to lay down clean beats for the enjoyment of others

[@TReeseTV]

Its all good Eric. I was in a corps style band in high school in Southeast Louisiana. Alot of other bands were show style, and we used to make fun of them all the time for being over the top or sloppy or over hyped. I really never learned to appreciate it until my senior year when I got to talk to other drum captains on why they enjoy that style. I still would rather play in a corps style band though.

[@Phin_Again]

I mean, its kinda hard to not run into any of the show style bands considering how much of a big deal they are down there. My dad actually marched with Edna Karr in the early 90s so he always tells me how much of a big deal it is in New Orleans. But, they do need to be clean and many of them are, while some need work. (I would know since I remember watching one of the parades this year at Mardi Gras and there were some high schools who need some cleaning up).

[@sambecker2155]

Oh yeah, in New Orleans there are some big show style bands. For parades they play and often do a lot of really cool visual stuff. Marching in a Mardi Gras parade isn’t like anything else. And while they’re not the cleanest, god damn they’re entertaining, and god knows the drunk parade watchers don’t know the difference. I’m not in a show style band but I really do appreciate it. It takes a lot to play and dance while marching five miles. Look up some videos if you want to know what I’m talking about. There are a ton of videos of marching bands in Mardi Gras parades.

[@Phin_Again]

Sample Text oh yeah I went to NOLA this year. I’ve been watching HBCU bands for about 2 years now and I kinda wish I went to JSU because I want to experience the culture first hand.

[@ethannaquin3409]

What band?

[@TReeseTV]

@@ethannaquin3409 Slidell High then SELU

[@wowitskevin]

Corp style college bands in the south also give out large scholarships to march. It's not just show style bands and HCBUs. College band is HUGE down here no matter the style.

[@Mr_Curtis_Kelley]

Most mature and honest youtube i know. I love ya dude

[@drummerboy0620]

Except for all the dick jokes lol

[@justinholmes3936]

Dude that’s really classy of you. Takes a cool dude to actually read the comments and try to fix it. Not gonna lie, I thought everything in that movie was made up but now I know that some of it is true. Thanks!

[@tony_______]

I hate that my band director is trying to turn us into a show band, we used to be competitive until I was a freshman. I don’t have a problem with show style bands, It’s just not what my school used to be 😐

[@yoboyraul578]

Mr. Cagna bro what ? Y’all band director doing y’all a huge favor

[@tony_______]

409AllStarBand I’m more of a dci kinda guy, but I honestly don’t mind him doing that because I’m in drumline and he won’t have us March like that

[@tonyswrldxoxo]

What school are you at?

[@tony_______]

Cedric Rucker Lavergne high, in Tennessee

[@tony_______]

pearlsnaredrummer77 yeah I planned on doing that, I think show style bands are more fun to be around

[@XavierHunter]

I marched corps in high school but hung around a lot of folks in show bands at an HBCU. The differences between the two styles are WAY different as well as the skills required.

[@j.mieses8139]

As someone who was a percussionist and marched in an HBCU Marching Band I really appreciate this Video.

[@jacobrichey8478]

I’m a show style marcher it seems this dude has the chops and definitely the form to play that tenor he’s just doing it too fast for some people to catch the form

[@kevincroft3607]

Exactly, more like Southern University just a little faster and wilder sticking

[@AzrealMaximus]

You do know he's a member of the United States Marine Corps Drum and Bugle Corps? He's an active duty Marine and a teacher.

[@jacobrichey8478]

Yes but he did say he didn’t know any thing about show style marching

[@jacobrichey8478]

Oh

[@LuckyOwI777]

Yep. I know nothing about show style marching/drumming, as I am a core marcher, but it sounded pretty damn good to me. He did seem to overplay a little bit, but again, I have no experience in that style, so I really don't know

[@tucker.84]

The tiny tenors kinda reminded me of the Blue Devils when they marched their tri-drums in 1986. I couldn't imagine marching them though....

[@aprilmoore2917]

I marched tri in junior high - boy, did I think I was something special... lol!

[@ondrauscissell6952]

They originally marched the North Tenor Trios in 1976. Then celebrated that DCI Championship anniversary in 1986 and marched those drums again.

[@ondrauscissell6952]

BD marched quads in 1985. Which were Ludwig.

[@roadfert]

I marched tri in middle school and went right to tenors as a freshman in high school. Eventually went on to play tenors at Suncoast Sound (old DCI corps) before they collapsed. They were a great starting point for what I would play later on.

[@globoiran884]

He was good, but it’s actually a tenor call out, and in drumline we do callouts all the time. Every section, including the horns and woodwinds have callouts towards another schools sections.

[@jazzman81]

Much respect to you EMC for making a follow up video to your original Drumline Movie review. You're an awesome, honest, and humble person and thanks for that. Both ATL Drum Academy and I are interested sharing our HBCU band experience but I'll send a more detail DM via IG as mentioned in the video above. Luv your content and thanks for making vids we band nerds can geek out on!!!

[@PhilSoReal1]

Humble.... a trait many don’t have. As a graduate of an HBCU and member of a Grambling State University World Famed Marching band it’s much appreciated.

[@chernobyl13]

So what we really need is a Drumline but it's a coming-of-age story about someone who went to school doing either show/chorus style drumming moving to a school that does the opposite style.

[@TheDocAfro]

If anything check out Beyonce's Coachella performance. She even said as much, bringing the excitement and fun of the HBCU 5th quarter as her concert. Hell even in her opening number the band is playing a number that I often hear FAMU play in the stands. Not to mention she had the band play after the percussion break, "Hay" by Crucial conflict, and Hay battles are a big part of the HBCU experience. Okay, so show style is as you said is synonymous with HBCUs. Many people have complaints about how the horns sound like crap drums not playing cleanly and to that I say yes, there are some bands out there for lack of better words, really should check how they play, but at the same time there are MANY MANY more bands that play cleanly and sound perfect. Which brings me to the overall sound. You have to understand that the bands are playing popular R&B, Hip Hop, and Pop music, meaning if you hear it on the radio, there is a good chance you will be able to recognize the tune and go dance in the stands. Add different dance moves and it's a style that is quite difficult to master.

[@stephenpatton4073]

Dat mane actually has good form thats how single tenors are played check jackson state u war an thunder for a references and or cold steel drumline from NC A&T some schools even do leg tenors lets not have biases i marched both Corp style an showband an military we are musicians lets come together as one and chop it out word up from a retired percussionist 17 years🔥

[@PsilentKnight19]

It takes a lot to admit one's errors and mistakes, but you get points for trying to incorporate both sides of the coin. Show band and Corp band style have their niche in the marching community-as they both present the best for their fan base. Keep up the good work.

[@carterkopacki9625]

You should do a series we’re you react to dci/wgi shows!

[@FilipusWisnumurti]

Unfortunately a video like that will get copyright strike from flomarching

[@TylerDunphy]

Filipus Wisnumurti Adam tan’s been doing it

[@LuckyOwI777]

@@FilipusWisnumurti There have been other people who have been doing it, and they have been fine

[@Phin_Again]

Filipus Wisnumurti because he is critiquing/adding commentary while also possibly educating about certain show/music elements, it could fall into fair use.

[@corywright14]

I can appreciate this video so much more. You corrected your mistake and I applaud that level of humility. Good stuff. And shout out to my dawg Antoine Gibson for the reaction video to the original reaction video!

[@ghostbear200123]

I see the photo in the background I took of you at The Sunset Parade at The Lincoln Memorial last summer. Once in a lifetime. SEMPER FI‼️🍻

[@crquad0168]

You are a class act Eric. Your humility and positivity are responsible and respectful. I am genuinely impressed. Honestly, thank you.

[@samwoods7879]

Damn this may be the best apology video not this whole website

[@LuckyOwI777]

If only audience reaction was part of the score in WGI. My group would have top of that. Our show was so, so, so entertaining this year, and I'm still upset that the season is cancelled, lol. If everything went as planned, I would have just gotten back from Kentucky regionals either today or yesterday. Ugh, lol

[@77kungfupanda]

Eric please tell us more about the tiny tenors! I need a portable set like that! xD You should make it a like goal to do a video about the tiny tenors, and talk about if you made them like you did the extreme tenors :)

[@ferretyluv]

They’re just octobans set up and tuned like tenors.

[@ephraimpinckney8209]

I knew MD would be brought in the mix one way or the other. Im proud to have marched in the legion.00-04

[@RedDogMamaHD]

So happy to see my "Gifts" have found a place in the background of your videos! And I cannot wait to see the modified video!!! I'll be FAMOUS!!!! (and I'll probably share the revised video with all my family and friends on Facebook!!! so that you can get closer to your 100K subscribers!!!) 😘🥰😍😉

[@TylerDunphy]

Did you do this to get attention and fame?

[@alexwaynemiller]

I had wondered if your review of the movie would get some heat. I’m proud of you for not sugar coating your mistakes and actually apologizing. A lot of young percussionist watch your videos and will hopefully learn from your mature decision to make things right. While I come from the same world of drumming that you do, I wish there would be more education on other styles of drumming to avoid what you are going through right now. You are not the first person I have heard be critical of that film for what are usually uninformed reasons. I think it’s a brilliant idea for you to bring someone in from the HBCU community who has experience in this genre of marching band. Not just for your own education, but for everyone else to learn about the difference between the two styles. Seems like your audience would benefit greatly (myself included!). Keep doing you, man! Way to check and adjust. :)

[@epiiibeats]

Thanks for the shout out... Virginia State University Drumline.

[@DemMommaJeans]

Having did showstyle and drum corps style I enjoy both quite well

[@brookstarkington]

I don’t mean to get pedantic here, but in this video you said there’s 2 types of marching bands: corps and show-style. But there’s actually a 3rd type which is especially popular in Texas, mostly East Texas. Military marching band. There’s even NAMMB which is the National Association of Military Marching Bands. I didn’t know military marching bands were a thing until I started teaching in Texas 8 years ago, but they’re a pretty big thing here. Anyway, I don’t mean to be the “well actually” guy, especially not on a video you made specifically to correct yourself! But I thought I’d just throw this in here! Thanks for everything you do.

[@robertmcwhorter2453]

Thanks for speaking up for military style bands! I grew up in east texas and got to do both military and corps style in high school and had fun experiencing both if those styles. There's more variety of music in the corps style although when we were military style our director started working in other types of music other than the traditional military marches.

[@brookstarkington]

Robert McWhorter Very cool! What school was that?

[@noahgormanmusic1843]

Having done both, I highly respect both. However, corps style band was more fun and left me feeling more accomplished

[@shaesghostboo]

I finally saw this video. We're working our way back through your videos. Hated this movie but glad it inspired other kids to play or get better. We actually played in our band during my graduation. There weren't any problems... all of the seniors played each year during their graduation. The seniors would retake their seats with their fellow graduates for the final march out while the rest if the band played without us. Loved that I got to play one last time and at my graduation. ❤

[@ianmccurdy2765]

I marched high school and teach now as a drum tech and both of those are very corps style oriented. I somehow stumbled upon a bunch of show style videos on Instagram and honestly they do be kinda fire doe 🔥 I would highly encourage people try and find some videos of them because they are hype af

[@Phin_Again]

There’s a bunch of KZbin channels that are dedicated to following HBCUs and high school show style bands that imitate them, such as ShowtimeWeb, Killa Kev Productions, Smash Time Productions, and MARCHINGBANDSPORT

[@davideanes3425]

7:07 We had challenges in my HS corps style band... The alternates could challenge for a spot every few weeks and if they won, the alternate would ‘shadow’ the person and then take the spot at the following Friday football game. This was early 2010’s... Go TX!

[@enchantedgamer9428]

That must have felt like shit to the person who got their spot taken 😂. Imagine getting beaten and then having to teach who beat you your own drill.

[@davideanes3425]

EnchantedGamer9 Yep. People had to stay on top of their game (music memorized, equipment ready to go, good grades, etc).

[@TeamLouieTv]

You should review/check out Norfolk State University's "Million Dollar Funk $quad" Drumline, Virginia State University's "Drum Phi" Drumline, or South Carolina State University's "Bongo Bros" drumline. Three of the cleanest and 🔥 drumlines that HBCU's have to offer with DCI level cadences.

[@kevincroft3607]

Hey Eric, Yeah i marched at Detroit Central High School where our style was collegiate and inspirated by Southern Colleges such as Tennessee State University, Florida A&M University marching band Etc and i also March for Thunderbird Drum Corps in Detroit as well. So as a snare drum and tenor drum player I've experienced both Styles and respect them Thanx for addressing both styles and keep up the good job my friend

[@LuckyOwI777]

Yay! Michigan gang! I have only participated in WGI groups before. This is my first time learning about show style drumming/marching, and I'm finding it quite interesting. Granted, I think I'll stick to DCI/WGI, lol. But it's still pretty neat to learn about other styles, especially as a huge percussionist

[@citizentrucker]

My highschool was a bit weird. We were a very small band, half wanted to act like show bands, the other half was more corp style lol it got interesting at times lol

[@paulypoobrain2929]

I watched a Norfolk State video a few days ago and the line was like clones moving in perfect unison. It was an entrance video. So clean.

[@jackm6593]

It’s all about the recovery 👍

[@sakuracat23]

Im from Indiana and while visiting friends in Louisiana for Mardi gras I was struck by the differences of the marching bands in the parades. The dancing was something totally different from what I was used to. There doesnt seem like theres alot of info out there for show style bands. I've watched some videos but I've never found one where the culture of it is explained. That could be my shoddy search skills but it's understandable that you didnt know. I admire the fact that you admitted that you were wrong. Definetly need to find someone knowledgeable of show style to do a collab with that would be great.

[@Phin_Again]

Just follow a bunch of HBCU band channels. I learned through watching and seeing reactions of people in the comments on how they thought the band was (like, critiquing cause that’s how bandheads are (bandheads are what HBCU band fans are called))

[@Phin_Again]

To add on, I found the Wikipedia article about marching bands informative

[@kahlilwyatt]

Coming from someone who is very familiar with both styles you handled this really really well

[@sydhamelin1265]

You could also title this "exactly how to make a mea culpa video" because it's a perfect example of how admitting a mistake or error isn't anything to be ashamed of.

[@McSmithers8911]

Atlanta A&T is based off FAMU. The musical arrangements and choreography are all FAMU.

[@thekingproductions0325]

Okay 1 appreciate your effort 2 at 2:24 where u said Prairie View A&M University you're wrong that was Alabama A&M University

[@bruhheadquarters]

Following along with Tyler De Tran is me drumming on Pringle cans lol

[@jyejigg55]

On another note I do respect you for educating yourself because these guys are REALLY talented 💯🤙🏾

[@redactedrider7606]

I remember in my hometown there was one other school. Smaller than ours. Always beat us at football though. Hometown rival type of thing. They were a show style band. They had their sheet music attached to their instruments, jumped around like weirdos, and were tiny. Like the entire band was maybe 50 people. Ours on the other hand we were clean. Uniform. Precise. Loud. Aim for absolute perfection. If we even thought to bring sheet music we would run for miles the next practice. Our snare line had as many people as their entire drum line. Like to the point where it was like an adult picking on a little kid. No comparison between us. But those guys were having just as much if not even more fun when they came out onto the field and took up all 20 yards lol those guys could fucking party. It'd be cool to hang for a bit after the game and talk to them about our play styles and we'd jam for a bit... I will admit I enjoyed the feeling of awe whenever we marched out onto the field as the were coming off and just fucking demolishing them with our bigger band lol at the end of the day we are all just drumline assholes wanting to make loud noises with friends.

[@TheNamesWolf]

I do want to add that my university Kansas State University is a corps style PWI that does challenges, but there's a chance that we are a very rare exception to that rule you listed about challenges. Great vid!

[@OdaKa]

Your criticism of the bad aspects of the movie are totally valid imo, and I'd hate to see it go away because some people called you out about the stuff you were ignorant on.

[@dwightbenjamin8942]

As someone who has been indulged for multiple years in both HBCU and Drum Corps cultures I can easily say that I understand both arguments. But I have to be fair when I make these points. Yes, I agree that Eric should definitely take the time to visit some HBCUs to understand their motifs behind what they do and why they value it. Yes he needs to understand that it is a distinct culture from what drum corps are familiar with. But what some HBCUS need to understand is that culture is within the type of music you play, the way you march, the uniforms, etc. Everything that Eric is pointing is simply from what logically isn’t making sense as a musician. Across all styles, whether it be Corp, Show, Military, or even pipe band, there’s no reason why any Drumline should be playing out of time, uneducated in reading music, have bad technique, no sound quality, or not blending. Those things listed are not correlated with culture, and that’s what most of these schools fail to realize. I love HBCUS, they are far more entertaining than most drum corps (simply because they prioritize entertaining all crowds, not just those who are educated in the arts, which I believe drum corps lack in and why it isnt as popular as it should be) but we shouldn’t allow entertainment to come before education, and the drive to become a master of the craft.

[@jakaribrant6919]

I have no idea why I watch your videos I play trumpet 🤣🤣

[@dantegraziani6639]

In my experience growing up in the Deep South, a lot of core style bands would shit on show style band and I always thought that was really lame. My band was small, under funded, and disorganized, but still everyone would hate on the loud, proud, and talented show style bands. Looking back on it, I think it was a lot of unintentional racism. Not saying that you did this at all! Just saying that I think it’s common and also lame.

[@SkyCloudSilence]

Not everything is racism...

[@tw6704]

Same. When i marched in highschool we thought that that style was sloppy and too showy. Whenever we played against Atlanta bands at games we called them "ghetto" but i was secretly jealous because they were way more entertaining lol. Now that im older i kinda wish i experienced marching in that style 😅

[@Sergio-fu7mv]

@@SkyCloudSilence some stuff is though. You don’t know what was going on, he does so he/she could be right. We don’t know.

[@SonOfTheLion]

​@@Sergio-fu7mv No no it wasn't. Its obvious that saying show style is more "entertaining" means less skilled. Style doesn't make up for sloppy technique. What is more shocking to me is that apparently we are supposed to pretend that lower standards should be acceptable for these bands. Since the distinction is made in the video, I'll use it. Why not expect the HBCs to play up to the same standards as the PWIs? From someone unfamiliar to the scene it seems to me like you are saying the blacks can't play as good as the whites but they are entertaining so that is good enough. If anything sounds like racism, that does. I'd expect any drummer in a band I was in to play well, first.

[@WBfroggy09]

Thank you for being big enough to admit being misinformed and incorrect. As an HBCU alum(PVAMU) i appreciate it.

[@PK-zg1gk]

Gpa for band scholarships lol nah bro. Gpa only matters to get in the school. For band scholarships for almost all hbcus it’s an audition process usually a prepared snare piece, rudiments, scales, sight read. Kind of the same as auditioning for a spot in dci.

[@timpedzinski230]

One more thing you got wrong was seniors playing at their own graduation. In my school in the middle of the graduation program all the Sr band members go up from their seats and played a feature piece in their cap and gown. Ours was a piece based on the score from How the West Was Won.

[@keshawnwilliams6704]

React to the real North Carolina A&T drum line

[@phenylmusic]

maybe add "part 1" to the end of that video's title and "part 2" to this one edit: ok

[@MotoNoobOfficial]

Heya, bud! Nice to see another UD guy. :) I was UD snare captain in *cough*1994*cough*. I was actually offered a scholarship to Delaware State University for marching band back in the day... I forget how much it was, but it would have covered a few classes at the very least. I wound up doing UD instead. :)

[@BigBeefbaby187]

Dat mane on tenor smackin🔥

[@KyleNally]

Um. One small thing. You said that some of the show-style lines do play cleanly. And you're right. That's so much easier when the heads are tuned that loose.... like at 2:23. If I didn't see them on a video I'd think it was a line of concert snares.

[@Megaman_219]

Thank you for clearing it up but u didn’t have to take the original video. Much respect to you because I know I was on you about this topic. And you got some skills too.

[@kwicksand12]

I'm sorry but the random tenor interludes are hilarious. On a serious note though, it's always good when a person acknowledges when they're wrong or mistaken

[@JoshLeRose]

Me *sees EMC tore apart Drumline* Me: No way, he must've made some errors here. *doesn't watch original* Me, weeks later: *sees "I was wrong about this movie* Me: Haaaaaa

[@KakashiLeftEye]

Yesssir . MDFS for the first HBCU clips 👏🏽🔥🔰

[@danierukame]

I was challenged in middle school for second spot on tenors we only had drum line. I lost but to my defense I don’t know how to read music and I never practiced or tried to learn beyond what we were taught. I did it for extracurricular activities. After middle school I went a core band school that did not play anything good... so I never joined the band. I definitely love show bands

[@ChopShopXV]

Props to you I’ve actually marched both core and show style and the first video wasn’t as bad as you may think don’t let the negativity overshadow what you were trying to accomplish by spreading your knowledge.... honestly you just spoke on what you knew. Don’t delete the first video

[@berkleylynch6739]

Top tier vid, keep it up. New camera? Quality is very good

[@d.buchanan4432]

.I appreciate this im sorry for the stuff I was calling you. But I am really proud of you for clearing up your mistakes. :)

[@savingcpr5450]

3:51 It sounds like a cartoon that’s trying not to fall

[@bentenboy13]

Theres a TV show you should check out that is a docudrama (kinda) showing all of the internal stuff behind the actual college marching band behind the a marching movie (don't remember which one) movie including showing all aspects of the auditions and playing, practice for all parts of the band, dancers, flag, and all. It's about a show style band and it's frankly dope. (It is a marching band show, not just drumline, but it should be checked out.) Its called marching orders

[@turtle5734]

9:36 "They actually take band just as seriously as the sports teams" Cries in Louisiana

[@44musicgroup21]

NSU is an amazing example of corp and show style mixed. Chops and style 🤝🏽

[@johnniejames9799]

As a H.B.C.U. ALUMNI, I certainly appreciate your mature stance to correct your position on the movie DRUMLINE. I think what you have done here is a BLUE PRINT to even heal race relations in our nation, as much of racism has to do with ignorance rather than pure hatred, which we have experienced the pure hatred kind as well. I'd be interested in taking you on a tour of some of the HBCU's MARCHING BANDS, once this Coronavirus thing subsides, so you can get a thorough immersion into our world and actually witness the level of commitment and dedication we have to the DRUMLINE and BAND. And believe me, most of our DRUMLINES are super clean, and can play with anyone in the world. I'll post some schools here for you to research and if you want to go to the schools, I'd be honored to accompany you. Thanks again for being a MAN!! BEST HBCU BANDS: Southern University, Jackson State University, Alabama A&M, Mary Bethune Cookman University, Florida A&M, North Carolina A&T, Morris Brown University, and Prairie View A&M, just to name a few!! You can email me at: [e-mail] to confirm or respond here.

[@tompeavy8254]

Hey Eric, you need to collaborate with Ralph Nader of BYOS/Blue Devils fame regarding this. Ralph has experience with both styles...plus you two drumming together would be magical.

[@BagChatters10]

Actually he'd be better off playing with Alex Blake, he's one of the snares in the Black Fire Percussion clip. He marched tenors for BAC in 07' and BD 2008-2009.

[@ferretyluv]

I was very confused as to what show style drumming has to do with the Green Party for a sec.

[@lukespielman]

Bruhh I was actually using some of the licks and warmups you had in that video to play and practice before the season starts. RIP

[@xaviercross3285]

8:50 your right, ghostlight was entertaining but I had no idea what the concept was. Once it came down to the top five corps I was lost as to what the show was about

[@MilaOh]

This was really cool of you to do! I definitely didn’t know about the two different styles before.

[@ParkourxFreerunning]

As a show style drummer, I think Dat Mane is dat man on that drum. (Sorry for the terrible joke) but I think he killed it and that solo could do well in a showstyle competition

[@Scarfinger36]

It takes a good man to admit when you were wrong. Don't take the other video down or this one makes no sense. No matter what, kudos to you brother.

[@DudleyIceCold]

Surprised that you didn’t use footage from NC A&T at DCI Night Beat 2019

[@TravisCyprien]

HBCU Bands in Drumline the movie the first one!! Not the second one! The first one! Main two bands featured (Atlanta A&T) Not a Real College! Morris Brown College!!! The real deal! Gramblin State University Marching Band, Clark Atlanta University, BCU Bethune Cookman University!! The Atlanta A&T members were audition from all over from different HBCU Bands for the movie. Atlanta A&T uniforms came from one of the High School bands you showed which is Southwest Dekalb High School from Atlanta, GA it’s the ones with the Yellow and Blue uniforms. But there is different styles all together. What people don’t know is sure DCI is great but HBCU Bands break things down. And yes they can play at the same quality as DCI. NC A&T and Norfolk State are prime example. Now it brakes it down even more bands such as NC A&T and Norfolk State are what we call in HBCU band world as MEAC Bands! PV Prairie view A&M, Southern University, JACKSON State University, Florida A&M, Alcorn State, Miles College all those colleges are known as SWAC Bands! Top HBCU Rank bands here in the South is SWAC Bands such as Southern University The Human Jukebox Marching Band, Jackson State University The Sonic Boom Of The South, Prairie View Marching Storm. Look Up the BoomBox Classic SU Vs. JSU! It’s something different! Keep in mind it’s a different style from what your use too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/ambclKKwl9-nbrc First Quarter Battle SU Vs JSU BoomBox Classic! And also a video from the Battle of the Bands I went to here in Houston, TX National Battle Of The Bands kzbin.info/www/bejne/maPTq6atoM-cq9U and this from the Honda BOTB back in 2015 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKGtnoOVorhgask and PV playing Murder on my Mind kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpOtY3eNrpimas0 you will have to skip to 4 min Mark on the link above to see it. Last link Jackson State Marching in at the Soul Bowl in 2014 now you can see the reason for the T-Drums in the video link kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHjFiHp6fN6ai8k One thing you will notice is that HBCU Drumlines Break Down the same rudiments at a lower tempo which is old school, to where you can fully understand it versus crazy lick after crazy lick! Big difference from DCI where you are playing it at 160-190. Now as far as the Tom! Yes the guy is play it correctly and playing it really good it’s like I said broken down at a lower tempo! And that’s on a show style level! Now in HBCU world you are challenging for your spot and that happens all the time. You have to be on top of your game to perform at the best of your ability. JACKSON State’s War and Thunder Drumline is a Prime Example as well. Just have to see it for yourself. Best advice go to a Honda BOTB’s and compare it to what it is with DCI. You will love it more than DCI. Sure DCI is great but after a while it gets boring.

[@devonzimmi]

I have so much respect for you now that you've made a follow up explaining how and why you were wrong. Most youtubers don't do this. :)