I WAS WRONG ABOUT THIS TANK VERY WRONG - 2C in War Thunder

The 2C in War Thunder is an EXTREMELY large French Heavy Tank. I really expected this thing to be awful to play, but I couldn't be more wrong.
The 2C is an absolute monster. I was wrong about this tank. It might be slow and cumbersome and the armour doesn't look reliable but when you have 12 crew members and a lot of empty space inside the tank... it makes you insanely survivable.
What really surprised me is the cannon. The 75mm gun fires and APHE with a ridiculous amount of TNT. It's so good, I have almost a 50 KD with it.
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[@OddBawZ]

DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT WEAKSPOT ON THE SU-122????

[@islandants1474]

No

[@islandants1474]

Because I haven’t whatched it yet I’m still in ads

[@hansiminator69]

No, Soviet tank has no weakspot. It’s intended!

[@Mr_Unavailable]

No, but id very much like you to play the OF-40 MK.1.

[@S1su]

No

[@Spookston]

I do not understand how those 122s didn't annihilate you

[@ttt2---763]

Because they couldn't kill him

[@eamonfitzmartin998]

​@@borntofart average Soviet player

[@jonathanlondon4501]

Derpy Russian mains vs Tank-Ship with a crap ton of empty space.

[@Goose_22]

Battle of Stronk

[@johnnytrigger300]

The Soviets felt bad for the French so they purposely put weak spots on for the 2c and ordered soldiers to stop shooting if they see one to make the French feel better

[@EpochSecutor]

Fun fact about that periscope, it spins around not in an effort to block the bullet, but to make it so the thin slats that restrict bullets from getting through do not matter as much, as they'd be going fast enough around to see through the tiny gaps as if it were a rolling shutter. It'd also be nearly 360 degrees of view as well which matters a lot when going over a trench where infantry can try to rush the tank.

[@Novous]

Yeah, I know it's a throwaway line, but the stroboscope worked fine--for bullets. It would have to be huge to deflect more modern cannon shells, and modern ww2 periscopes were almost as good with no weakspots and required no motor, gearshaft, etc to turn it. It doesn't scale up.

[@M65V19]

Yeah. OddBawz can't outsmart The French Engineers

[@ulfhedtyrsson]

They tried to match the frame rate of the human brain lol. Just as you can see through the propeller of a plane or helishitter.

[@liv4combat]

Thank you for explaining just what in the hell that annoying thing is. Saved me the excruciating effort of having to google it.

[@Hovis_Enjoyer]

I mean, odd is still right though, have you ever heard of shrapnel?

[@cristitanase6130]

That periscope if it rotates faster than 12 rotations per second can assure a clear, yet flickering, vision all around. At 24fps you got yourself the perfect view of the battlefield and still get some armor protection for your head.

[@WoobooRidesAgain]

When your tank is so tall, any shell it fires becomes automatically classified as a top-attack munition.

[@bassbatterer]

The idea with the revolving dome is that the slits in it were so thin a bullet would get volumetriced by it.

[@vermilion7777]

Also the Commander should see as if there is no cupola at all, via the shutter effect.

[@Novous]

I think realistically, you'd end up with some bullet shrapnel if you got hit, and "hit enough times" = higher chance of shrapnel hitting you. But the core concept worked.

[@owo1744]

@@Novous Well, I dont know about you, but I'd rather take shrapnel to the head, than an entire bullet.

[@t10god]

@@owo1744 Its really not a bad idea. But its no, fixed cupola with ballistic glass ports.

[@DarkAngelZz59]

War sure changed a lot when einstein invented volumetric

[@ideadlift20kg83]

It doesn't spin to stop bullets.Well sort of it spins to create a full 360 view so you aren't restricted by a set amount of view ports. It's the Zoe-trope effect.

[@statelyelms]

That spinning periscope thing is very cool! I remember in BF1 (in which the Char is a "beheamoth") you could get in them to use the MGs. They actually animated the effect. Apparently the spinning is not for the peepholes to dodge out of the way of the bullets matrix-style, but to make a tiny tiny slit more like a wide vision thanks to how human eyes don't take moment-by-moment shots and more smear everything together. Pretty cool!

[@Mystic-Midnight]

My favorrite thing about this tank is that it can block off the tunnel on Frozen Pass if you manage to get it sideways, You can just park one and J out and deny the enemy team their easy access into the tunnel unless they want to workout how to unjam the behemoth of a tank

[@yannicksibilly2149]

I'm gonna try this tonight

[@adimaiuniversal4361]

@@yannicksibilly2149 same

[@joebloggs7514]

“Never trust an engineer”, but, but trust me I’m an engineer…..

[@n1co2017]

the periscope irl spun a lot faster than that it's just in game it's more enjoyable to look at it when it's not motion blur central.

[@vermilion7777]

It's not a periscope. It's a cupola with some slits in it.

[@n1co2017]

@@vermilion7777 meh details

[@tomwalker8944]

@@n1co2017 The devil is in the details.

[@DirtyChungus]

Oddz handing out buttholes has got to be one of the most wholesome War Thunder things I've seen in awhile.

[@swissfreek]

11:27 I dunno why, but hearing OddBawZ say "you buffoon" had me in stitches.

[@philipped.r.6385]

This tank is a human wave by itself! There are so many crew members!

[@o-hogameplay185]

you should play the japanese Ho-I. It is at 2.0, basically a Chi-Hu hull with a short 75mm and 15 deg gundep. And 480g of explosive in APHE. On top of that, it has a good HEAT shell, and a very effective HE as well (12mm pen, so you can shoot the top of the turret of Panzer 3 and 4 tanks to overpressure them)

[@commandergeokam2868]

Not a bad idea

[@o-hogameplay185]

@@commandergeokam2868 yep, one of my favorite tank. truly a hidden gem, it is so good, when you see a tiny bit of the enemy engin area, shoot there, and the shell just overpressures. it can completly oneshot a char2c by shooting it's cupola xd

[@commandergeokam2868]

@@o-hogameplay185 i will play it again when i can ;)

[@Pax_R]

okay good to know, if youre tall enough you can hit a Su-122's commander hatch

[@farmcat9873]

But you also would have to have a lot of explosive mass in the shell you are using because it will not do that with many of the tanks at this BR

[@hudsondeweerd3910]

I knew I was in for a treat when I got an ace on my first match with this big baguette.

[@keithrogers6876]

Always good to remember that these behemoths were built at the end of WW1, gotta be fair to them when comparing them to most of the vehicles they fight against in War Thunder that were built during WW2 (or in some cases later).

[@No1harris_98]

The 2C was a blast to play when it came out, managed to get it spaded in 6 games lol, Also does feel a slight over tiered.

[@patricktorregrossa9657]

It's little brother, the 2c Bis isn't too bad either. 1.5 br lower than the 2c but it's the same tank but with a 155mm howitzer instead of the 75. It obliterates anything that isn't heavy

[@vermilion7777]

Not bad is an understatement. It's the howitzer with the fastest reload rate. You can park behind a hill and play atillery.

[@BlueLightningHawk]

People keep saying it is a WWI tank but it was only developed during WWI. It wasn't even used until after WWI.

[@ordeithx]

"Now we are actually in the fight, we can do something." ~ OddBawZ. Right after killing 6 people. Damn, I love this guy.

[@HiImRook0_o2022]

I love this tank so much man......I know that it isn't good, but holy cow it is so fun

[@vermilion7777]

N0t good? I have 8-10 kills in it, regularly... It almost feels like the Maus, if the Maus would fight WW2 Tanks only...

[@ihatehandleupdate]

​@@vermilion7777 it's an absolute beast at it's BR because there are a lot of stupid, unsuspecting noobs who just downloaded the game.

[@vermilion7777]

@@ihatehandleupdate Nope. Check the levels of the players. It's mainly level 50+. That's because they play this BR out of fun. Low level players want to get at fast as possible to higher BRs or are still in the bot-phase.

[@ihatehandleupdate]

@@vermilion7777 It's a mix. I see a lot of unexperienced noobs and a lot of mid-, high tier players who want a brake from the chaos

[@redtsar]

It would be nice if there was a stat for “hits received in vehicle 1, 2, etc” There are times where I have wondered how many shells I shrugged off and would have loved to see the total amount at the end of the match

[@keithsimpson2150]

Adamant sort of tracks that but I think multiple quick hits won't

[@mazack00]

Your imitation of the snore meme is amazing. :)) gets me every time. Thanks for another great video bawz!

[@alexpivniouk8421]

Fun fact: **oh lawd he comin**

[@restfulguide9970]

Fun video suggestion, if you play with someone else and you both play the Catalina with the naval mines, you can kill all bases and the airfield without rearming.

[@dustyak79]

The spinning was probably for aimed fire at the vision ports. Kinda like that arcade game where you stop the wheel to get the prize. Looking out the ports optically you can see through like looking through a fan

[@DaddysBelt92]

Odd I would love to see you phly and spookston taking this French bus with a gun and make a unstoppable trio together

[@branojuraj9063]

DEFINITELY LOVE YOUR VIDEOS, because you give me a taste to play another day.

[@AM-vo4pw]

Wow, you are a content machine. I appreciate the frequent uploads

[@owensmith3485]

Love the videos mate have you thought about doing a video on the new repair factory plane? Seems fun for ground pounding

[@Talendale]

The 2c (and it's big gun premium bro the 2c bis) are delightful low-tier big chonker lineholder tanks. Main guns on both are always a threat to anything near it's BR (as you saw, even when it needs a creative hatch shot), and it's damn hard to finish one off without beating it's massive crew to death.

[@happydawgproductions7103]

You abbusing the height to see above obstacles and getting kills from cover was hilarious to see !

[@jozefsk7456]

lmao that tuening cupola... can tell you exactly what thoughts were in that engineer's head. The engi was taking a shit in an outhouse with vertical planks as a door, noticed that when he is rocking left and right really fast he can actually see outside clearly as if planks weren't there. So it does make sense to have just one vertical slit and rotate it around - you will see outside pretty clearly, which is less exposed window if it were 4 slits all around. So the added protection isn't from the spinning directly, rather the reduction of area without armor.

[@autiblebow4797]

it is so true with the survivability. I have taken the premium version up to higher tiers and it takes a good 5-8 shells to kill me, unless they hit ammo of course.

[@ExcavationNation]

Hahaha you brought the tuba back! From that twitch stream haha

[@SenileAt28]

Odd what’s you’re thoughts on this, fuel in tanks effects that if penned you run out then can’t move and a destroyed radiator slowly destroys the engine. Also great videos as well, only reason I play anymore is to try to make an appearance in one.

[@Slugbunny]

That intro duel(?) really was something. 😂

[@Obietrice420]

I can see in to the future I’m seeing odd ripping and tearing through the enemy team alone in a TOG II and having the time of his life (once they add that tank into the game) or other ridiculous super heavies like Kv4 or kv5

[@WigglyWings]

When playing a heavy it would be fun to have a hit counter in video. Hoping Gaijin will add this feature is too much.

[@fuze3522]

Enemy team watches in horror as a behemoth tank from 1921 rips through their entire forces lmaoo

[@elikasinger3175]

So the slits in the cupola were too slender for a bullet to slide through and the spinning holes made it clear to see through

[@vermilion7777]

Yeah, the Commander is supposed to get an shutter effect, like as if he would look through an open hatch. Nothing for people suffering epilepsy, probably...

[@randymeredith]

This was insanely fun to watch!

[@Bijoux_DerWunderCatsen]

Cool tank, nice play. I see the advantages of crewing a tank with a cricket team & an umpire.

[@colonel_cookies_]

the german 20mm has been so much nerfed, the pen was 64mm and it's now 48mm, it's now not op at all.

[@burningsinner1132]

The point about periscope is that there is no real holes bullet can exploit. Enough tiny slits with high revs act like a fan: you can see through it, it's just darker. And, since you get big area for light to find a way, the effect is not harsh enough to make things too dark to see.

[@cinnamanstera6388]

Quite astounding how cheerful Odd gets as soon as he ques up some low tier slaughter.

[@keithrogers6876]

Doesn't have to concentrate as hard, less kamikaze WEP plane revenge killing, makes sense that it is more fun really.

[@Nicmadis]

The Tog 2 of WT. Slow, massive, has poor handling but! Can take a strangely heavy beating, has a good gun and makes people laugh and have fun for some inexplicable reason. I assume this all means that a 2C group will do in WT what a tog group will do in wot, and omnom everything that comes at them.

[@ghilliemcwilly2162]

The War Thunder conga line

[@kaivinsky]

spinning decal on the rear was a good idea

[@DoomCrossingEternalHorizons]

7:56 I got an ad right as he yelled and it was priceless

[@billybrain6217]

When you want to support a behemoth, there are some do's and don't's. Don't lollygag around beside the advancing heavy, only to rush up in the face of the first group of enemies you encounter. You could have done that from the start, and saved time, and maybe one of your fellow lemmings would have survived long enough to score an hit. Do hold back and watch the flanks. Eventually the enemies will swarm, and they won't be focusing on you, so lots of easy "free" kills will be available. Do help repair and provide smoke when the big tank's gun goes down. Don't hang out directly behind, or tailgate. The behemoths have a great ability to reverse, and an experienced driver will be utilizing it. Do utilize cover and stay alive. See how Odd got swarmed when he was alone? Happens 3 out of 4 rounds when you take a behemoth. Blue evaporates completely, and red swarms. Behemoth drivers, consider staying close to U shaped buildings and narrow passages where it's difficult to get behind you. If anyone does struggle and get there, finish repairing and drive away from them.😅

[@matheuscarneirodacosta4804]

My first match with this beast (was at the launch day) I got seven kills stock, I was impressed by how great this behemoth is

[@16psyco]

as a french it is one of my favorite tank, BIG CHUNGUS for the win !

[@vermilion7777]

As a german, it's one of MY favorite tanks.... I wished you hadn't destroyed them all. Would have looked cool in grey. :P

[@16psyco]

@@vermilion7777 i wished YOU hadn't destroyed all of them ;) hahahaha but yeah i agree it would look cool in grey :)

[@peterdavies6660]

This makes me want to see you play the Neubaufahrzeug!

[@Nick-rs5if]

You may have gotten my gunner that time, BUT I HAVE 10 MORE READY TO TAKE HIS PLACE! WE ARE 2C, WE ARE LEGION!

[@bradenwolf2179]

"When your armour is people"- I mean, between this and watching Steath17 play The Great War: Western Front, that's pretty much a good summary of WW1

[@Parzival117]

My first encounter with this tank I pened through it's front armour with the first shot when coming around a corner. Scared the crap out of me.

[@ralffsmith2655]

On an unrelated note, seal hunting season just started around here. 😅 Only joking, you are the only player i have seen that can take a ww1 tin paper armored "tank" and make it look op Well done 👏

[@silversurfer427]

That opening mating scene was straight out of National Geographic...

[@sweetcakes6498]

I love the way Odd says Crusader

[@JessWLStuart]

"See? I've got an automatic butt hole scoop! See that?" - OddBawZ, 2023

[@benjaminjohnson6476]

Odd the su-57B can be a very fun tank at 2.7 and can be such a sneaky casemate!

[@aquaisuseful682]

“It’s a Christmas tree of dudes” Hahahah

[@t10god]

I have had a fun time in the 2C!! It is very humorous! And the gun is not bad for its tier, with high 1-shot potency!

[@Muphetballs]

"Going to be so proud of mysel- YEAHHHHSS!"

[@bbcmotd]

Yesss low tier is fun tier. Also can't wait for actual WW1 tanks!

[@Jimmys4AU]

OddBawz is in rare form today, must have been feeling much better; having a "blast" in the twelve-passenger party bus!

[@thefox787]

0:25 a bullet can't fit through the gaps. the idea was that it would spin so that the commander could see through the fast moving gaps, making an effect of there being nothing.

[@kieranjordan2655]

Wondered why I have been seeing this tank alot recently, think people have become inspired after this video

[@vavra222]

This tank is like a reverse Merkava lol, instead of the tank being designed for maximum crew protection and survivability, it is essentially fueled by bodies of crewmen.

[@TomPrickVixen]

When your armor is: people; than u can start protesting! I still say the all the low rank French heavies has too high BR!

[@squidwardo7074]

the stuka napalm was cinematic as hell

[@iseeu721]

Odd the reason the pz II C's 20mm fails to pen you is because of the nerf they did to its HVAP shells. They barely have 50mm of pen at 0 degrees if I remember correctly, and that's assuming they had the best shells.

[@Meow_Zedong]

The 2C should come with a sound file that plays a tuba whenever you move.

[@PanzerYeena]

Malzi: *inserts AAAUGH sound effect* OddBawZ: 10:00

[@ExcavationNation]

Odd says the spinning thing is crap.. meanwhile he's the one to told me to wiggle my turret for basically the same reason.. 😆

[@jamesreilly328]

It will be a good day when I don’t hear crew-sah-door in an oddbawz video hahah

[@p51cMustangFUYTGIVEMEBACK]

i wanna see baws try and hit a slit that is rotating like that... youbmight be good mate but i doubt you could do that reliably

[@theoneandonlyartyom]

hey odd you should play the ikv72 its veri funni with its 270g he filler aphe round, 20 degrees of gun depression, mobility of a bt5 on meth and neutral traverse at 1.7

[@wawanbansay5782]

Ptin t'y est vraiment pas aller de main morte avec la baguette 🤣(damn you didn't restrained yourself with this baguette)

[@Maddog3060]

I guess after driving the West Virginia in WoWS this must seem like high speed excitement. ;)

[@mattles3244]

@OddBawz: How are you able to move your gun while in rangefinding right around the 4:36 mark? I've seen it in previous videos but can't figure it out.

[@yoboi691]

Only tank that can really ruin a Char 2c day is the Sherman 105mm with the heat round. Also the Su-122 is cracked. so hard to pen.

[@anthonycochran6492]

Hey BawZ, Any chance we can get an official 'Not Ideal' shirt in the shop? It would go great with my OddBawZ mug.

[@immaturedemolitions8220]

Loved the engineer joke

[@daumantasstraukas4741]

Hey Odd will you be attending Tiger day at Tank museumin Bovington on 22 April?

[@MathieuG89]

Hey OddBawz, you can see the statistic when you hover your mouse on your score during the match.

[@cinnamonoa]

it's got 12 crew members in a br range where most guns are no bigger than 45mm

[@jasonwineland7016]

Stroboscopic cupola is the name of those spinning tops. The science is actually sound.

[@RocketHarry865]

Imagine if Warthunder creates a what if mode where ww1 lasted for another 2 years. Imagine all the tanks of the ww1 era and the early 20's

[@neireannach]

“Never trust an engineer, trust me; I’m an engineer” I’m so confused

[@wyvernbravo]

You played the french lanship Can you play the Russian one? (The t35)

[@christerschoultz3759]

The ones that designed the Sweden-map, have never been here in Sweden. It looks like some city in Switzerland or Austria, rather than the north.

[@lawless3205]

U know it's a good day when BawZ uploads.

[@Novous]

so 6 days a week?

[@lawless3205]

​@Chris Katko of course

[@DraconixDG]

Can you try the premium version? It is not as good due to its reload rate but it is still loads of fun!

[@galloviking4766]

Yeah I'd expect a TNT throwing baguette to shine

[@Mariuspersem]

Drinking challange: Take a shot every time a german player uses smoke

[@JackSmith-xm2ep]

You should try using the Sherman 2

[@myman1635]

this makes me wanna return to warthunder and give that thing a chance