I Watched And Ranked EVERY Joker Portrayal...

[@djsreaction2227]

"You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses would ya?" Nicholson was gold lmfao

[@wallstreethodl]

Jared Leto really had a better relationship with Harley than Joaquin's...that's insane

[@serg-l3w]

so fax lmao

[@FK74396]

I just saw Joker 2, and I hate how right you are

[@RebornVengeancex]

Actually her portrayal is somewhat accurate

[@s1storm]

Arthur Fleck isn't THE joker, it's the inspiration of THE joker

[@PencilFan-hj3lo]

​@@s1storm that's dumb why is it called Joker,

[@fzcbh4698]

Cesar Romero = The Clown Jack Nicholson = The Criminal Heath Ledger = The Anarchist Cameron Monahans = The Psychopath Jared Leto = The Trickster Joaquin Phoenix = The Comedian Barry Keoghan = The Monster

[@KSTheGOAT14]

Hamill: THE JOKER

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

@@KSTheGOAT14 and the trickster (again) which ngl the 90s trickster is scarier than any of the jokers to me. A genuinely insane m-rderer

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Cesar Romero = The Clown Jack Nicholson = The Criminal gone mad Heath Ledger = The Anarchist and Mystery Cameron Monaghan = The Comedian and Aspiring Psychopath (Comedian only applies to Jerome) Jared Leto = The Lover (SS) / The Troll (ZSJL) Joaquin Pheonix = The Sad Victim Barry Keoghan = The Serial Killer Mark Hamill = The Joker brought to life without an actor aka the voice. Such a unique voice yet so fitting for almost every rendition. Timeless too. Not too old not too modern but definitely modern enough. I do think monaghan is the physical equivalent to hamill in bringing the comic character to life especially his more outlandish cover art which all seems to be shown in Cameron's performance.

[@yungk6043]

Cesar Romero = The Clown Jack Nicholson = The Criminal Heath Ledger = The Anarchist Cameron Monahans = The Psychopath Jared Leto = The Fuckisthisbullshit Barry Keoghan = The monster

[@Unholy187]

Jared Leto: The Cringe

[@inevitable934]

Unfortunately for Cameron, Gotham wasn't allowed to actually USE Joker in the show, so they had to use all the loopholes they could until they went all out in the finale

[@REDgames_Review]

he still is

[@AnneHathawayRules]

Why weren't they allowed to use him?

[@REDgames_Review]

@@AnneHathawayRules who knows

[@erg1947]

@@AnneHathawayRules at the time Warner Brothers were really strict on DC shows not being able to use characters they were planning to use in movies because they thought it'd confuse people having multiple versions of the character at once. Arrow also had a few characters they had to stop using or drop plans to use because of this.

[@2ndspringtube708]

@@erg1947and I mean nowadays people are trying to connect joker 2 to the dark knight somehow….so I guess they weren’t entirely wrong about the confusion

[@DailyCodyKo]

Heath's joker subverts expectations 17 years later...that's crazy

[@larrythelobster1595]

I haven't watched Folie á Duex, and I don’t plan to, so Phoenix's version is still a 10/10 for me.

[@menchacism5327]

If you just don’t treat it like a DC movie and see Arthur Fleck as his own character completely separate from any comic then it’s honestly decent

[@DH_Artist]

No the second one is still a steaming pile of shit and butchers the entire story and reason behind the first movie​@@menchacism5327

[@mattfisher6901]

Heath’s portrayal still freaks me out. He was literally transformed in that role. I was one of those goons that was livid when I heard he was cast in the role. I HAPPILY ate my words when I heard the first Joker laugh in the Dark Knight trailer. Jaw. Dropped. I saw the movie 4 times in 2008. RIP Heath. What a legend.

[@ChaseGinise]

I’m so glad you managed to find redemption and join the rest of us in our universal love of Heath Ledger’s Joker.

[@Colin-bowser]

I kept thinking that the TV series Gotham’s joker looks like cal Kestis until I realized that it IS him. He’s the voice, mocap, and model of him

[@weinschnegge]

Jedi and Jokers somehow...

[@djssrandomness5701]

I've never seen a director try and actively RUIN his version of the joker before with joker 2...

[@DyliciousTakes]

it's crazy

[@2ndspringtube708]

Todd Philips wasn’t even forced to work on joker 2 ,they never had a contract or plan for it ,so he literally choose to return willingly just to see how much he could ruin the first movie with this one ,I just can’t understand….

[@JBM_productions]

⁠@@2ndspringtube708 Maybe Todd Phillips is like the persona of the Joker. In the first movie, the Joker thinks he’s going to be famous, despite this not coming to fruition the way he thought, he did become famous from his heinous, actions and the uprising. Then in the second one, it’s all revealed to be in his head. Similarly Phillips made a brilliant first film, but with the second one, people are saying he’s lost it, like the first movie was just a dream. It’s like the whole thing has come full circle. How the movies are being perceived and his director decisions are mirroring how the movies‘s storylines in a way. It’s crazy when you think about it

[@doomraven0]

He ruined the first movie too but apparently there are a lot of people that like shitty movies with massive overacting, unsympathetic protagonists, and slow motion underwear dancing. Also, that's not Joker, it's some loser named Arthur Fleck that has nothing to do with Joker.

[@DH_Artist]

​@@JBM_productionsthat's one way of thinking to deny or justify the fact that he made a terrible fucking movie with some of the worst storytelling and character development ever put to screen

[@kirablackstar6130]

I think you missed out on the fact that Cameron was very inspired by Heath's Joker within both Valeska brothers.

[@bigoldbear]

Joker is my all time favorite villain! I am not sure you can top Heath but Gotham's version was my personal second place choice. Great review!

[@DyliciousTakes]

Good choice!

[@KSTheGOAT14]

In my opinion if Willem Dafoe did manage to play Joker it might be as good or better than Heath Ledgers

[@trisstudio625]

Agreed Joker is my favorite character too

[@isaiahallen5234]

​@@KSTheGOAT14 yea it's a missed opportunity not to cast willem dafoe and they miss cast Jim Carrey as the Riddler he should have been the joker, imagine that grench smile and jim in full joker outfit and makeup

[@isaiahallen5234]

Cameron is severely underrated as the joker because they might not like the writing or whatever but I loved his multiple takes, with the right writing/story and no hold backs like they had on the show I think he would be one of the best so far

[@sierraking4312]

I agree Cameron Monahan's profermence as Jerome and Jeremiah is way too underrated. Definitely in my top 3 Jokers.

[@TheDeadpools]

I think for me heath ledger will always be the best LIVE ACTION joker

[@Zildjian-f2v]

You just started a riot with that thumbnail man

[@TheJoker27780]

Heath Ledger's Joker is the pinnacle. You just don't get better than that. He was incredible. So was The Dark Knight.

[@waltercorleone9531]

Heath Ledger in my opinion is the only Joker who is on the same level as Mark Hamill.

[@DyliciousTakes]

agreed honestly

[@bit_aim]

Where's Lego Joker

[@lynnbrummett2016]

Well the Lego joker isn’t really apart of the actual joker timeline It is just an addition to the movies at least that’s why I think it’s not included

[@sobhan1218]

he's gay so f

[@WadeD-h6b]

Heath Ledger (R.I.P.) was my personal favorite by FAR. I watched the entire Gotham series, and the only good thing about the 5th season was the Valeskas. I definitely agreed with everything in this video. Great review.

[@wes5990]

Bro you got me with dark night being at F in the thumbnail 💀

[@dylanwong6065]

Heath Ledger is definitely my number one favorite Joker of all time. Ledger’s Joker is more evil, smart, intelligent, anarchy, threatening, menacing, chaotic, and one of those villains you don’t want to mess with. That’s the good reason why the late Heath Ledger posthumously won an Academy Award, Golden Globe, British Academy Film Award, Saturn Award, People’s Choice Award, and even MTV Movie Award for his outstanding performance as the Joker. Joaquin Phoenix is my second favorite Joker who also won an Oscar, Golden Globe, and BAFTA. Jack Nicholson is my third favorite Joker where he is goofy, dark, scary looking, and menacing at the same time.

[@kallocarina8879]

Putting Dark Knight in F tier in he thumbnail is biggest clickbait ever

[@Bkiller05]

I watched the 2nd Joker last night and I feel like betrayed by the director the joke really was on us

[@V3eTLe]

My boy Joaquín dont deserve this 😔

[@ironpuppy5019]

Fun fact about Romero: He refused to shave his mustache for the role so that’s why he has it throughout his time as The Joker and honestly that sounds like something Joker would do

[@florjankelmendi3498]

The main reason I liked heath’s joker was that Christopher Nolan and his brother Johnathan Nolan blended all 3 types of the joker into one, heaths joker was not only the mastermind bc of how he planned his actions out but he also had the comedic jokes like the joker and the psycho version in him too like when he gets thrown off the building and starts laughing like a maniac.

[@theleaderturtle]

Heath Ledger will forever be my favorite live-action Joker. RIP Heath.

[@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051]

Little fun fact - The guy who plays Art the Clown in the terrifier aka David Howard Thornton has a video where he is the joker he does the killing joke monologue he was actually really good

[@Lydiawhatagirl]

Most anger causing thumbnail

[@elusivent]

Legit the only line from Leto's joker that i liked was the knightmare scene where he says something like "id be happy to discuss with you in anyway, why you would send a boy wonder...to do a mans job."

[@ДимчоДимов-ж7е]

What about the line when he said "It's Jokin' Time!"?

[@2ndspringtube708]

I mean….its a good line ,but the delivery wasn’t great

[@AnneHathawayRules]

4:45 the often talked about but rarely performed "double Keaton". WELL DONE, SIR! 👍🏻

[@ScottWilcox-n4s]

I paused at the start when he showed the animated versions and I saw the one in the bottom right corner and I said “ITS PALM TREE HAIR JOKER!”

[@PrestonRōnin]

If Todd Phillips wanted to connect his story to the Dark Knight trilogy’s, he should’ve just showed how Joaquin’s Joker goes from sympathetic to evil and completely nuts in his second movie. Could’ve even added in the vat of acid part in some way. Showing Arthur Fleck’s character growth into becoming the Joker we know in The Dark Knight.

[@7718ac]

Heath ledgers version of the joker will forever be what I think about when I think of the character and I think a lot of other people can agree

[@batnick4998]

I literally came here cause I saw the thumbnail and wondered why Suicide Squad is S while Dark Knight is F lol

[@Petite669]

Clickbait

[@cesarbrasilator]

I actually love that they flipped the Joker/Harley relationship in Joker Folie a Deux. But I do still love Heath Ledger's portrayal the most.

[@zaclangdon3218]

Jack Nicholson is very comic accurate minus the killing of the Waynes

[@matthewlawlor4323]

I feel like Leto could’ve been something decent if he was given sometime and fully fleshed out how he got to the top etc but yeha the tats were stupid

[@absinthealice]

I'm not a huge fan of Leto, but they definitely wasted a great opportunity to develop his Joker. It could have been so much better, given the time and scope. I know he was only there for Harley's sake, but I could have watched a film using him and Robbie in a full origins story. Back then, I was really hoping they'd put that together.

[@cazzmarie1136]

For me, there will never be a better Joker than Heath Ledger's portrayal. Heath's Joker is a masterpiece. 💚💜 Do you want to know how I got these scars?

[@PrettyboyAshtun]

2019 joker was great but the dark knight joker is a classic

[@jaydmond7258]

Wow too many to chose.. I loved the original batman with Adam West and Cesar Romero. They were my fav's.. Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson's version was very cool.. For Straight up acting I gotta give it to Heath..His Joker was evil and manipulative..Joaquin's was more dark..great acting but too dark for me.. I loved the Gotham tv show too bad it stopped.. I wish they would bring it back. I loved all their characters.. thanks for a great vid.. I loved it.. and I loved the new rating system.. keep up the great work!!!

[@batfan6154]

I have never booed harder at a screen than the ending of joker 2

[@SMBAMP9504]

You know a lot of people hate on Jared Leto’s Joker, I actually really liked his joker if he had more screen time and better writing I honestly think he could be one of the best, you gotta admit it his was very unique

[@absinthealice]

I agree. I was actually hoping, back then, that they'd give Leto and Robbie an origins film. Although I'm not a big fan of Leto, I think he did a great job nailing down the Joker. The tats were still bad... but the rest could have been really great.

[@elusivent]

That guy at 13:34 has to be traumatized by the Joker at this point 😂 because wasnt he in TDK as well? The guy that Harvey was interrogating in the back of the ambulance

[@DyliciousTakes]

yeah lmfao

[@evilrollo]

He became a supervillain who shot polkadots from his arms and ended up crippling a giant alien starfish before being crushed to death

[@CapSHADY7]

You should make one about Harley Quinn, I think that would be very interesting and would tie very nicely into this.

[@bruh949]

I prefer The Penguin leading the gang, Burgess Meredith’s penguin is easily my favourite and the one I was introduced to.

[@adropofvanilla]

this says a lot about dylicious' takes

[@DyliciousTakes]

what specifically?! 😦

[@adropofvanilla]

how we live in one

[@jrramsey1013]

I just want to say I subscribed because this vide was great and you gave my man Cameron some recognition. I loved him as Joker in Gotham. He is easily my third favorite. Right behind Mark and Heath. Phoenix is my fourth because I think if they used him well, he could be number one or even two.

[@DyliciousTakes]

Thanks for subbing! I love you ❤️ and Cameron is goated as joker man

[@ZapasowyMurzyn]

1) Heath Ledger 2) Jack Nicholson 3) Joaquin Phoenix (I don't count the sequel) 4) Cesar Romero 5) Cameron Monahans 6) Barry Keoghan 7) Jared Leto

[@onlyth3oretical]

man, i wish you included Barry Keoghan's Joker! I may be biased but he's my favourite Joker as I wasn't looking for a comic accurate portayal.

[@4B1ade]

He has been seen for literally 5 seconds in the end of a movie. There's not enough material to rank him on.

[@onlyth3oretical]

@@4B1ade yes, I understand that but I also based my judgement off of the deleted scene with him and Robert Pattinson.

[@2ndspringtube708]

My expectations for dcu joker is definitely that they’ll try to make him like heath’s take in the dark knight ,but I hope they also make him more silly and tricky ,since that’s been always part of his character,a silly menacing clown

[@Cookie_King]

I beg of you, PLEASE, don’t watch the second one! PLEASE! 🙏

[@DyliciousTakes]

Too late 😢

[@4B1ade]

Yall are gonna kill me, but I actually liked Jared Leto's performance as Joker. I just think they maybe should've changed his voice and given him eyebrows, but I actually enjoyed him. 😭 He should've had more backstop told towards him, but I feel like he could be considered a "good" joker if he was tweaked a bit.

[@melissajanzen]

Way did they make joker2 into a musical😭

[@jesspayant1667]

Joker is my second favorite comic book character of all time. My first tattoo was a Joker with some modifications. I grew up with Romero. BtAS has the best overall Joker. It really combines everything about the character so well up to that point. I agree with every point you made about Mr J, but I personally go with the Nicholson version. He's just my Joker, just like Keaton is my Batman.

[@P2-D2]

Loved the vid! Keep up the great work!

[@DyliciousTakes]

Thanks a ton!

[@MadisonPro]

Jamming out to the very slight Out Of Touch in the background 😂😂😂

[@DyliciousTakes]

LETS GOOO! I’m glad you noticed 👀👀

[@dennisanastasiou3742]

What about the Diddy Joker?

[@absinthealice]

We don't talk about the Diddy Joker... (In strong Russian accent.)

[@CaedynC]

Heath leager the goat

[@Sly88Frye]

Heath ledger was the best Joker. The Dark Knight is my favorite movie of all time. I think it might be the only film I saw in theaters three times. I know I've watched it on DVD a whole lot. I haven't seen the new Joker film, but I definitely loved Joaquin Phoenix in his first Joker movie

[@sleezy7187]

dark knight joker was perfect if the joker existed in real life

[@Unholy187]

I prefer the type of Joker that is an insane genius always one step ahead of whoever is after him and consistently fall into his tricks.

[@DyliciousTakes]

agreed

[@jordanlopez1438]

Heath Ledger is the Ali of Joker

[@dylanm9071]

Great video! I love the ranking system! Btw, “albeit” is pronounced like “all be it.”

[@interdimensionalsteve8172]

HOW can you possibly give the Joker movie's Joker an A rating?! He's NOT THE JOKER in any way shape or form. He's just a loner loser who snaps, like Taxi Driver. Woopty-doo. It's extremely clear that the movie was originally written without the Joker in mind. They made it a Joker movie afterward.

[@boomstickcritique902]

Well the Joker had tattoos in the comics before but it was in else world comics like All Star Batman and Robin and Joker Dark Prince Charming. But the tattoos they gave him in the movie were more standard gangster thug tattoos. Letos Joker personality for me felt like Frank Millers Joker from All Star Batman and Robin who was more weird with a bit more of a sexual bent. I do think the difference with Letos Joker is unlike the other 3 he doesn't feel of the same piece. Each of the Jokers beforehand felt of a similar piece while with Letos Joker they wanted to modernize the character from the comics which I assume is why they took the basic gangster mob boss classic Joker and tried to update it to todays generation. I get what they were going for but I don't think Letos Joker was given enough time to develop they cut so much of him out that he was basically a cameo.

[@Dogegamz214]

Seeing heith ledgers joker in f tier for the thumbnail got me glitching irl…

[@yogenz]

Nicholson Joker is extremely faithful to the comics. Him being the murderer of the Waynes is obviously wrong, but that's literally it. He's quite frankly the most comic accurate Joker we've seen on film. Take Hamil Joker from TAS or Akrham which is seen as the Joker. Which Joker from the films is the most like him? He may not be your favorite version of Joker, but to say 89 Joker wasn't comic accurate is just simply, respectively, wrong. Enjoyed the vid, however, great stuff.

[@javierortizbarcelo681]

The thumbnail had me worried 😂

[@JokerH-A]

Now This Is Cinema

[@GuilhermeOliveira-qh8wf]

Do the same type of video but with Animated Jokers. It is gonna have a plenty more to talk about it.

[@DyliciousTakes]

I’ve noticed people in the comments want this, I’ll do this in the future 👀👀

[@nicole321ify]

I saw Joker Folie a Deux and it was trash, just like the sequel to Silence of the Lambs and The Godfather part 3…therefore I’m going to forget all about them, as to not forget how brilliant the originals were. The only sequel that I have watched that is just as good as the original is The Godfather part 2. The Godfather part 2 is one of Robert De Niro’s first acting roles and he nailed it, Sicilian dialect and all.

[@hx2471]

5:51 bro Said “I’ll bite” 💀

[@ImNotGregGraffin]

I thought this was a great and detailed video If I could make one polite criticism - and this might just be a “me” issue, so take it with a grain of salt - but I found the quick, bright flash effect you used to transition between footage to be quite distracting and unnecessary They were so quick and frequently used that it kind of irked me and they didn’t really add anything to the production of the piece, in fact it kind of took away for me Hope I’m not coming off as a dick, as I did genuinely enjoy listening to your reasoning for placing the portrayals where you did, it was just something I thought I’d point out and you can do what you want with it :)

[@LexVanguard2004]

I won't lie, I like Leto Joker's design because they at least tried something different, and I think the weird gangsta vibe it brings works for the DCEU. That damaged tattoo is terrible though, there's no defending that.

[@Getmilkk]

25:41 aw hell naw jigsaw yo ass trippin

[@JoiWiren]

Different does not equal bad. Different does not equal bad. Different does not equal bad.

[@EmperorSarnie]

as amazing as Heath Ledger's performance as Joker was, Cameron Monahan's really steals it for me. Especially as Jerome. You can tell instantly he's the joker, without the suit, hair or makeup. Knowing the budgetary limits as well as the fact they were banned from utilising the actual Joker name and appearance, he did a killer role; pun intended. It's a fun twist on a character where I think if they had more of a budget and was able to portray the character in a movie he would be regarded as one of the Best we've ever seen

[@theRealmcMoonBall]

“Pm pm pm ‘Why so serious?-‘ pm ‘hm hm hm hm hm hm hm hm-“

[@Popp1092]

Great choice with using Hallo Mister X from New Vegas. It somehow fits very well.

[@jchuck316]

I liked Jared's Joker in Suicide Squad for what it was (wish there was more of it) NOT the Justice League one though... that was horrendous. I have to say though my favorite and most accurate was Jack Nicholson's. I LOVE Heath's BUT Heath was to Joker what Jesse Eisenberg was to Lex Luthor. It wasn't the character, it was a variation of the character. Heath was a crazy killer playing the Joker. The true Joker was Jack through and through. Which is why I think Mark Hamill's version captures that so well. It's jokes with crazy. True Joker goes to Jack.

[@sam-oo6rt]

love your videos!! pleaseee tell me you have a letterboxd id love to follow you on there!

[@halloween_666]

bling-bling ( in jonny test) + joker = jared leto joker

[@williammclean6594]

You should do another version also doing all the animated versions to see which one is best in combination with the live action. Because a movie being animated shouldn’t like stop from ranking the number one joker

[@JakeSullivan-l8i]

Why do you have so few subscribers? You have such views, the quality of your videos...

[@DyliciousTakes]

thanks man! appreciate the support!

[@bexniccals3686]

Where Can I Find This Tier List?

[@Dannorc]

Batman 89 might as well just be a Joker movie, cause any scene without him is lacking.

[@Supernova2464]

So next is the animated jokers right? Great work btw!

[@DyliciousTakes]

Thanks! Would you want that? Maybe I’ll do this soon 👀

[@Supernova2464]

@@DyliciousTakes that’d be awesome!

[@Hara-Kiwi1997]

I like the part where The Jonkler said "Its Jiggling time." And started Jimbling everywhere

[@REDgames_Review]

i only watched the Gotham episode that had Jerome and Jeremiah

[@POVprojects]

You should’ve done Jerome and Jeremiah separately cause they may be brothers and played by the same amazing actor. But they are completely different characters and versions of the Joker

[@ET-rg9xr]

Cameron is my own personal favourite. I was a little annoyed by the comic accuracy score, because i feel like apart from the look, especially as Jerome, he perfectly captures everything that the joker is supposed to be. Hes like mark hamill in live action, and i love it. Its just a shame that the shiw didnt have the rights to actualy use more of the joker because man was cameron soo so good in that role

[@NewOrderOfAlexandria]

I wish they would just make a *The Killing Joke* movie. No shoehorning in DC cinema cameos or changing anything to fit *The Batman* movie series (no tumour face Joker); just a comic to film 1 to 1 adaption with the most accurate representation of the character on screen. Short green hair, purple suit, slim figure and an actor who has those lanky features. Timothy Chalant could play that character well imo, he was very a likable down on his luck version of Wonka, so applying that underdog character to Joker's origin would work so well. It might be hard to take him seriously/threatening after his transformation, but having him be this sweet shy guy before to become an absolute maniacal monster? If pulled off, it would be amazing. I know the comic story isn't that long, but it doesn't have to be a 2 hour plus epic. 80-90 minutes will do.

[@2ndspringtube708]

Well it doesn’t have to be 2 hours ,but no theatres or executive would accept about 30 minutes movie(the comic panels are that long) ,and hey !the animated killing joke wasn’t fully terrible half of it was but the other half which was the actual adaptation was a decent interpretation

[@NewOrderOfAlexandria]

@@2ndspringtube708 they will unfortunately have to add more backstory to Joker's comedian days, maybe show us how bad working at Ace Chemicals was? It's tricky, but that's why the cartoon movie added so much extra. Running away from the core story too much could definitely taint the live action remake. I'm glad DC is open to the idea of exploring different alternative universes in their films. It seems The Batman and Joker universes are different than the DCEU (Which is their version of Marvel's MCU) maybe DC should do more one off films like Joker from now on?

[@2ndspringtube708]

@@NewOrderOfAlexandria well joker 2 bombed at both the box office and the critical and audience score ,it has the worst comic book movie score ever ,so no idea if they will still risk it in elseworlds besides reeves universe after this fatal failure (heck there’s even reports that wb wants reeves Batman to take place in the dcu ,which might imply that they don’t want to make elseworlds anymore)

[@NewOrderOfAlexandria]

@@2ndspringtube708 a big problem with Joker 2 is that A. I didn't really need a sequel. B. They forcefully made it fit in with the comics lore by adding two face and a new young Joker (either Harley's baby or Arthur's killer). Joker 1 worked well as a standalone elseworld film so that's where they went wrong (I think they were trying to tie this into *The Batman* universe as that Joker has a messed up face, likely cut up) I think DC should just adapt the best comic stories 1 to 1 or make original films based off characters. Instead of Joker 2 we should've gotten a Penguin (there's a TV show), Riddler or Two Face movie, perhaps all set in the 1970s with subtle nods to Joker 2019. It could've been a Gotham Verse without Batman, set in a retro world. That would've been miles better imo.

[@2ndspringtube708]

@@NewOrderOfAlexandria as much as I agree ,joker 2 really didn’t have to be this bad ,it could’ve easily been a character study of Harley Quinn obsession rather then a repeat then ruining the first movie ,joker 2 could’ve been good or at least even decent if they at least tried to make something good rather then actively trying to ruin the first film ,I am fully convinced that they attentionally tried to make it as bad as they can so a third movie will never get green lit ,that’s how bad it is(also 1 to 1 comic adaptations isn’t really the best idea,other then stuff about comic elements not working in movies ,making something original that’s inspired or accurate enough to the comics is always the way to go ,that’s why I love the Batman)

[@AustynSN]

While I used to agree with your assessment that Napier being the murderer of Bruce Wayne's parents wasn't all that great, I've come to enjoy it more via a common fan-theory. It wasn't Napier, but just a random thug. Bruce, however, projects the responsibility on all criminals. Every criminal is the one that murdered his parents. Batman sees the killer in all his prey. It does negate the concept I've also always loved that Bruce Wayne instantly and perfectly memorized the face of his parents' killer (usually Joe Chill), but I think it fits well with the Michael Keaton version of the character.

[@TheMarvelousLoukas]

I really quite enjoyed Jerome’s and forgot the other guys names “joker” but my favorite live action is heath ledger ofc and fav animated is batman animated series 2004 joker hot take but I really like the take on the character and it was the first time I was introduced to Batman and joker

[@belavera994]

jared leto's laugh sounded so much like voldemort's, his joker is what you'd get if you threw a punk and voldy into a blender😂 best one so far is heath ledger's joker, but I'd love to see one that is faithful to the original one like nicholson's or romero's, a joker like he was portayed in the arkham games would be awesome, I hope that's what we'll get to see next.

[@giuliac9735]

I wanted to like gotham but couldn't get into it... I did watch only when "jerome/Jeremiah" was on, cause he was amazing! 😅

[@RandAllmon]

essentially Todd Phillips believed his movie became too famous, and that he was“forced to make a second“ And instead of putting it out there that he didn’t wanna make a second movie he instead it took the hundred million dollar budget got his payday made a film that was meta commentary On how much he hates the first one because he made it so good And then made it so that the fans of the first movie would hate his joker franchise just as much as he does

[@edwardpolenzani1039]

I think you could argue that Jack Nicholson’s Joker is more accurate to the character than Heath Ledger’s is. The fact that he just wants to commit his crimes for the sake of the performance and “art” of it, is very Joker. For all the dialogue Heath’s Joker had about being “chaos”, his motivations were extremely ideological. Compare that to Nicholson, I think his own words were “I make art, until someone dies”. He literally didn’t want Batman to upstage him and steal his press. What’s more Joker than that? And just for the record, I love the dark knight and Heath’s performance, it was perforce for that movie.

[@Zuernaxashyr]

Say what you want about Leto but his Joker imho is very comic accurate. So rating Arthur Fleck above him as more accurate is crazy.

[@michaelchialastri5577]

A fantastic comparison between the character. Great job. Heath and Joaquin were fantastic