i watched fate: the winx saga so you don't have to (a review) 🧚🏻‍♀️🔥🤭

[@rosesareredvioletsblue5438]

at first I was sad that Techna and Flora weren't in it, since they were my favorites, but now I'm actually pretty happy the show didn't ruin them

[@trinaq]

Me too, it's a blessing in Disguise, I shudder to think of how they might have been portrayed! 😂

[@proserpinabringerofdeath5935]

@@trinaq flora’s parents are drug dealers now

[@Alexenarain]

@@proserpinabringerofdeath5935 I really don’t wanna watch it and I know Flora is mentioned as like Terra’s cousin or whatever but is this true?

[@user-tu2jk2me5x]

sadly stella and musa couldnt be saved😣

[@raydontgiveaf3512]

they were my girls, i loved them sm

[@mariaherfst348]

I love that your criticism is really constructive. Because the reasons why fans of the original winx don't like this adaptation are reasonable and shouldn't be dismissed as just empty hate. Winx was my childhood show and I don't like how this adaptation doesn't do any justice to the original material. So thank you for making this. ❤️

[@guillaumenyssens8212]

Unfortunately, like she expressed, it's all about the money and what can be milked from it. We had the world according to Disney, now we have it according to Netflix

[@intergal6916]

So true, why name it Winx when 1 member from the group itself is missing

[@hanmira]

@@intergal6916 actually 2

[@intergal6916]

@@hanmira right, I forgot that flora is not Terra

[@sould3485]

Ikr :/

[@kirbysalvatore1292]

I hate how they made Stella mean when she was the whole reason Bloom found out who she was and how she was a fairy.

[@nazarisreyes6037]

Also, the fact that she was the most girly and one of the sweetest at the same time was specially

[@starrynight5207]

her first friend too! why did they have to mix her with SKY ???

[@hernanpeter9583]

Ikr they ruined it urg

[@saedoll2507]

I was confused because she gets like a message or something telling her to Meet Stella and then when she's asks Stella if she's stella and stella looks at her as if its a 'ugh, great.' @_@

[@mikhael4]

Prepare yourself to see Techna being a hacker, gamer or just a regular computer geek.

[@kinderbomb]

Coke bottle bottom glasses, messy hair and outfit. Suddenly they take her glasses off and she turns into the most beautiful girl in the school. Just watch how they ruin the show with this crap.

[@soumitabandyopadhyay934]

Techna is a Computer Scientist. Maybe a tomboy? She is neat, looks pretty WITHOUT glasses CAUSE SHE DOESN'T HAVE GLASSES. AND SHE HAS PURPLE HAIR.

[@aur9035]

Ughh f that

[@gingerdog8203]

Tecna*

[@gingerdog8203]

@@soumitabandyopadhyay934 tecna*

[@partIycIoudy]

“Everyone deserves to see themselves as a princess...not just white women” I’m sorry but that made me really happy when you said that, you sounded really genuine and it made me feel special 😇

[@marya5925]

You are a princess and your significant other (if you choose to have one) needs to see you like that all the time, becouse every girl is special and deserve kindness, compliments and love, especially from "the one". We are still little girls playing princess dress up at heart. Don't let anyone ever make you feel you are asking for too much, seeing you as special should never be "a chore", it should come natural to people who truly love you and see your true self. People who don't make you feel like that are not your circle and that counts friends, family, partner... You deserve to be treated like a human being, a girl human being at that, with all your girliness that comes with it. Not a mother, a man, a therapist, a cleaning lady, a best friend or whatever role other people want to put you in for their benefit but just relax and be a princess. ❤️ And i know you know but just a little reminder- Us, white people, made movies and animation with white women as princesses. It means nothing. It made this dangerous portrail that we are more delicate (or whatever) but it does not mean it's true, we just made more movies trough history, don't you ever take it as fact! We had the resources and liberty to put out narratives we wanted trough media, it was one sided fantasy, not true! During slavery black women were put in a role of more "Savage, unworthy, manly", they did not choose those rolls, they were princesses taken from their homeland and enslaved. We, as a sociaty, are working on new representation, a correct one and I belive in time it will balance out. Sorry for writing this much you just touched my heart, bless you.

[@partIycIoudy]

Marya its okay, everything you said was really beautiful and it makes me happy to see that people understand how I feel. I’m crying tears of joy now 💖 thank you for being such an amazing person, I really appreciate it and I’m sure other people do too 😇

[@heavenisup384]

Aww, I’m not apart of this conversation but y’all’s comments just touched my heart. God bless both of you ❤️.

[@marya5925]

@@heavenisup384 You too and you are always a part of this conversation, my sister. May you and your loved ones stay safe. ❤️

[@Cestpastropcaa]

You ARE special 💝

[@Pol1A]

There’s major problems when a 2000’s animated show was more progressive than a 2021 show that’s in a “progressive” generation. And get Asian musa. And where tf is Brandon?! They all had boyfriends so...

[@Comments_From_All_Channels]

I like the Asian from Jem & The Holograms movie. She makes a good Musa

[@yalikejazz2328]

Facts and musa alsoo was With RIVEN NOT SAM andddd there is No flora nor techna 😤😤😤😤

[@Svatikush]

They spoiled the winx charm i hate them from my bottom of my heart

[@yalikejazz2328]

@@Svatikush yes

[@demoawo4968]

@@Svatikush They have ruined winx club if they try to touch totally see spies I will riot

[@marli4442]

i want a reboot of this reboot

[@spacekid9680]

And hopefully this reboot of the reboot doesn't suck like a black hole.

[@blacklungsanji3]

It's really cool ModernGurls is able to articulate and have a real vision for what these characters would look like and therefore show who they are as characters since fashion usually emulates ones personality. It's embarrassing that they A. Didn't hire a person that is good at styling young people and B. Them basically destroying the core message of the series which is friendship

[@JellyDonutSquirt]

Maybe the plot wouldn’t seem so bad if it wasn’t supposed to be a Winx adaptation.

[@Amayram21]

It’s sad how the entertainment industry wants to make a “mature” show they need to put in live action, people need to start respecting animation cause I’m really tired of this

[@faerie5926]

God ikr! There are plenty of mature and dark animated series and lots of them are pretty great.

[@PanicoCalico]

Winx was already mature, just remember the time that the bad guys just petrify and entirely city o-o. I know if I rewatch the show I will find more things.

[@yinkafalade7513]

Exactly and how is this meant to be mature with all the whitewashing and anti lgbtq+ remarks it just makes it more childish and discriminatory than the original

[@prettyspectrum6371]

YES. Animation is not only for kids, it has its own good points that we see time and time again not working on live action because it doesn't have the same magic People need to understand this. The cartoons that are emerging on this platform is the only thing that's giving me hope

[@Pavlinka__]

I totally agree. However, I think that sometimes moving something from animation to live action can make somewhat interesting emotional shift. Like looking from a different angle at the same thing. Same thing applies with moves from claymation to cgi to whatever else, right. Sometimes it's also really cool reading a book that is made from a movie. Sometimes these things get adapted to video-games and what not. It's cool seing how à different medium makes the story, world, characters shine in a different way. But in this case, you have to have a vision to bring winx club to real life and not to the typical lame Netflix show hah. And I also guess that animation is not yet seen as a companion to live action when it comes to not-a-kid people, so, I suppose we have a way to go. I personally think it's not that a long of a way, but I suppose it still exists. (I also feel like older people are more likely to watch animation than kids and teens. Because animations is exactly what you're taking about, deep and mature. Not really kid stuff. Teens probably could but it takes a whole for a person to appreciate art haha. It's not immediate for everyone... I guess it's up to your definition of animation lol. Like, spongebob is animation but when I hear animation I think dog Island or something. I suppose spongebob is a cartoon. And spongebob has its deep and mature episodes too.)

[@violetkakicius]

i hate how they ruined layla/aisha from being a feminist in the cartoon to making her "the group mom' who's obsessed with school... not to mention forgetting about stella's amazing sense of humor and erasing tecna. I loved the boards you made for each character, they're amazing !!

[@apenstaartjeanna3889]

Right? I hope since everyone hates it their will be a good remake eventually

[@Luuni100]

they literally turned her into katara from avatar

[@apenstaartjeanna3889]

@@Luuni100 Katara is amazing tho!

[@kawaiipanda4013]

@@Luuni100 what’s wrong with katara

[@kawaiipanda4013]

@The Tiarra literally, I thought we were past this

[@pixiie_3839]

All I'm asking of Netflix is that they don't touch Totally Spies. My whole childhood can't be ruined Edit: why y'all liking the comment?👄 they'll see it👄😂

[@headintheclouds7905]

Omg imagine 😒

[@adoroselatte]

NOooooOOOo don't give them anymore ideas!

[@E.b.9970]

@@adoroselatte i said the same at another comment ! Hahah we're all thinking the same, they're gonna ruin it

[@adoroselatte]

@@E.b.9970 yea bruh 😭 our childhood

[@ezequielson5677]

They won't. The cartoon will be there for you to watch if they happen to make a live action adaptation out of it. So stop it with the drama. Its nor like they're talking your favorite cartoons and editing it

[@user-lh2fu4nn7o]

1. Flora was Latina so Terra should be too 2. Musa was Asian 3. Riven was Asian 4. There are so many characters missing 5. Wtf are these outfits. The og winx club’s fits were ✨iconic✨ 6. KIKO WYA?!🐇

[@TheRedRoseofJujutsuKaisen]

Wait Riven Asian?

[@OkamiKai6980]

@@TheRedRoseofJujutsuKaisen idk.

[@gostosao8951]

@@TheRedRoseofJujutsuKaisenYes South Asian

[@happydays5279]

@@gostosao8951 no he's white

[@lalaLove867]

Ikr u made sum good points didnt know riven was asian

[@aliceee5549]

I just wish that even if they didn’t dress them in the aesthetic of the original show they would dress them as actual teenagers. Not some sad and depressed version of 2015 fashion.

[@molls127]

“sad and depressed version of 2015 fashion” did you mean “2015 fashion”

[@catherinetheegreat8742]

2015 but ugly

[@sophiecrap4242]

😂your totally right

[@LittleHobbit13]

Not only that, but even just as costume choices... It's one thing that these are not fashionable outfits, but they're not even costuming choices that appear to best fit their body types. The words "frumpy" and "drab" come to mind. You don't need a Hollywood budget to put a flattering outfit together, so I really don't know what went wrong here except someone in the costuming dept apparently not understanding the basics of clothing (which seems like it would be a prerequisite).

[@cait3196]

exactly! esp with the current recycling of y2k and early 2000s trends coming back after 20 years, you'd think they would go for that aesthetic since it would both accuractely depict the original while also following a current trend... so disappointed

[@kalinan319]

I hate how they made Bloom and Stella enemies - they were meant to be besties! And also the fashion was insanely bad - how is it that Beatrix was the only person who didn't have horrible fashion

[@trinaq]

Seconded, I hate that they felt the need to make Bloom and Stella rivals, because apparently there MUST be tension between two girls in the friendship group, before they eventually reconcile.

[@SuperSophie2004]

I remember them being really close friends since it's Bloom who discovers Stella on Earth. Also with the fashion, horrible choice. Y2K fashion has been coming back for at least a year and all of the characters had a certain aesthetic that is very Y2K fashion. The series was filmed in 2019 which was already bringing back Y2K fashion. So very poor choice from the designers.

[@iioreo7015]

literally this. why can’t they stop putting girls against each other?

[@delnadavid2589]

Exactly! It’s even weirder because it’s STELLA. They all have a close relationship, but Stella and Bloom knew each other before they even made the Winx club, so to put them against each other for Sky, when Stella originally had the sweetest relationship with Brandon, is just turning her into Diaspro... 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@oluwajomilojuakinleye9560]

They were literally the closest

[@okt6682]

stella was literally such a fashionista who made shopping and styling an important aspect as a princess and they literally made her dress like a republican woman the WHOLE TIME. unforgivable.

[@sophie4686]

YEAH

[@novemberninth4392]

IKR

[@espeon871]

She looked like she was abt to tell a staff member who asked her to wear a mask to screw off because thats an infringement on her rights the whole time lol

[@j_m12341]

They made her a mean girl instead of what she actually is, but I don't see the problem with her looking like a Republican. People dress differently than you, and people have different opinions than you. Get over it.

[@okt6682]

@@j_m12341 lol yah and this is my opinion so maybe you should also get over it?

[@ashy_ankles_101]

People act like belong a young adult can’t involve glitter and bright colors. Sometimes you just want to be surrounded by cute and happy shit

[@anaaa_25elena]

Exactly :)

[@MooMooCow95]

Yes, sis. I want all the glittery and happy shit which I’m severely lacking in my real life lmao

[@blessiemasancay4818]

YES 💓

[@yalikejazz2328]

Exactly I agree

[@mary__1453]

Omg can you even imagine the actors wearing big boots with short skirts crop tops and wings with little hearts and glitters like daaamnn I understand what you want to see but real life is not like that and you can’t always get everything you want to(no hate:3)

[@charilettecarol7967]

They got rid of Kiko. I can never forgive that. I don’t care how dark it is suppose to be. That rabbit was one of my favorite characters.

[@turner15]

Yeah and throughout this video I was thinking at the least they could’ve given her a rabbit motif. Like hate accessories.

[@miticaBEP07]

A small bunny in a proper cage would have been a sufficient Easter egg.

[@atlas_idiot]

I miss Kiko and his favorite carrot juice..

[@themonarchofbaddecisionmak1405]

The rabbit was annoying. I don't understand how anyone can love him.

[@bluebay1031]

Same I adored him 😭

[@xandair]

I don’t like the fact that they made Stella a mean girl when we all know she’s one of the most loyal and caring friends ever, I don’t like that they didn’t make Musa Asian, Flora which I believe is one of the most beautiful girls isn’t, she’s just white girl, I don’t like the way they styled the girls and it honestly feels like there witches more than fairies, and I’m very sad that we don’t get to see Mrs.Techna, they honestly just messed up the whole show, as a whole the show could’ve been so good if they would’ve just casted the right people or just change the name of the show, and not put it under Winx club, Litteraly as soon as the first trailer had dropped we all started complaining and Netflix ignored us, and this is no hate towards any of the actresses they’re all beautiful I just feel like some of the actresses didn’t really fit in the role and I don’t like the way that the directors made them become a character that the original character isn’t periodt

[@shortytori9119]

Those in charge at Netflix legit dont care. They dont care if we demand a fix in a show. They know everybody isn't going to boycott Netflix. And they're okay with cancelling any show that they dont see as a success. To them if they think this isn't going to work out they'll wipe it under the rug and pretend the mess was never there. As they always do. With every mistake they make.

[@kemiipratt4579]

The white girl isn't even Flora. It's Flora's cousin. They have 2 of Flora's cousin and Flora's uncle. Everyone else but Flora bruh.

[@NorlizaRamli]

@@kemiipratt4579 whyyy she was my fav T-T

[@delancey3181]

Wow so white girls aren’t pretty? Imagine if someone said this “amaya (Just a random name) which is one of the prettiest girls isn’t she’s just a black girl” how would people respond???? Saying stuff like “that’s racist”

[@xandair]

@@delancey3181 honey bunny, your reaching 😌, I said Flora Whos in my opinion the prettiest Winx girl(Cartoon) is just another white girl, The actress her self is beautiful, but at the end of the day they white washed flora and turned her into terra, Flora was one of the only Latina inspired characters, same with Musa being Asian inspired, and Laila/Aisha being black, Terra is cool and sweet and all but at the end of the day, flora, & musa, and Aisha/Laila inspired all young girls and boys, and it let them see a character that look like them on screen, Like the video said it’s unfair!, they white washed and and gave the character to another white, when those characters specifically Musa and Flora were supposed to be played by people of color 😃

[@freyahodges96]

Stella wasn’t even into fashion in the Netflix version, she said she changed outfits often because she had to keep up appearances not because she just loves clothes. Why does Netflix think people can’t be girly and badass?

[@akhsdenlew1861]

Becouse they can't. But this is a sci-fi show, with magic, fairies and a whole different world in it.. So it wouldn't bother me if stella was girly and badass.. But realistically speaking, girly and badass don't really go together. Someone who is badass simply doesn't have the time and the mind space to be girly. Becouse usually a badass emerges from life experiences which are dark and forces u into badassery..So ur girly version will get lost somewhere in the way, inevitably.

[@kia-er2po]

@@akhsdenlew1861 This is absolutely not true. You’re implying that being feminine and embracing your femininity automatically makes you unable to be a “strong” or “badass” character. This is actually very very problematic because it’s extremely misogynistic. It just implies that women can never be influential if they don’t give up their femininity. Like why are women constantly seen as weak? Being feminine and dressing feminine is not a weak trait!!!

[@amelia-ge1rg]

@@kia-er2po I agree completely I just want to say: liking fashion does not make someone inherently feminine. I don't think liking fashion, or things traditionally seen as 'girl things' shouldn't rlly be called embracing your femininity because femininity is not based on those facts and idk I guess it bothers me because I never have liked those things but that doesn't make me any less feminine, if u get what I mean.

[@amelia-ge1rg]

@@kia-er2po otherwise I think you're 100% right, and its honestly ridiculous that some people think you can't be badass and have a good sense of fashion and enjoy 'girly' things at the same time?? Like bruh. By that logic theyre just implying you can only be badass by acting like a traditional alpha male figure 😭😭

[@akhsdenlew1861]

@@kia-er2po u're confusing the terms here. Big difference between feminine and girly.

[@VichyGlitterGun]

They did my girl Stella dirty, she's not a mean girl in fact she's the very first best friend to bloom 😭

[@ciaraedwards2231]

Exactly

[@red2108]

@@YellohMelloh this gives me the idea that they probs didn't.

[@HawkinaBox]

I hated how she was like, "I dress up for everyone else, not myself." Or whatever she said. STELLA DRESSED UP FOR HERSELF! SHE WAS ALL ABOUT SHOWING OFF!

[@AryaKher]

IKRRRRR!!! she was NEVERRRR the mean girl. She might've been perceived as one initially but she was v sweet n v caring about her friends.

[@thgritic102]

Not my baby girl! 😭 She's literally the only character who made me like the colors yellow and orange, and preppy personality was endearing, and they are messing her up! Nooooooo! 😫

[@kyaos_Meteor]

Its hilarious how they tried so hard to be "Mature" and "Dark" when the og already had the elements Actual characters died Bloom being orphaned and the sole survivor of her kingdom's mass genocide Aisha saving her kingdom from destruction and having near death experiences on multiple occasions because of it. Stella's parents going through a divorce and it was executed beautifully Also the way they destroyed flora is unforgivable i cant stand it since she was the one i can relate to the most A quiet shy girl who is a huge sweetie and super friendly PLUS BEING HISPANIC (instead of being the stereotypical ghetto ratchet street girl who thinks she knows everything and always trying to fight someone for no reason was refreshing to me) no this show as a whole is a disaster.

[@noheterotho179]

The irony of having all this shallow buzzfeed feminism when the entire premise of the reboot is rooted in sexism. The things they removed to make it edgy and serious is all of the stuff that's considered feminine and girly. The fashion, the sparkles, the fairies, the focus on the girl's friendships. All the things that were unashamedly girly were taken away because it's seen as silly and not to be taken seriously because it's associated with women. This isn't mentioning all the sexism within the writing of the new show. Just like when middle aged people write teens, it's very obvious when men who don't *love* women try and write ''woke feminism''

[@aadyaadyaadyaa]

exactly

[@aliceinwoderland363]

E X A C T L Y!!

[@olgapopova5768]

Yeah, but at the same time they also managed to completely butcher tomboy-ish characters like Musa and Techna (whom they just yeeted away bc she didn't fit into the their boring world)

[@Charu-Marley]

This was exactly what I was thinking. The aesthetic is one of the important things of this show. Winx just instantly makes you happy with the bright colors and fun clothes.

[@intergal6916]

The animated series are already a goood representation of empowerment. Why did they have to change that?

[@vitulapuffer9043]

Why are we literally going backwards. Diversity in 2000s cartoon series was so rich. Winx Club, My Scene, Bratz, and W.I.T.C.H were AMAZING with diversity

[@dizzycorn8128]

ohhh I forgot about Bratz, that was my childhood as well. I loved their outfits.

[@Spookycuty]

Because in today's world backwards means forwards Apparently.

[@thisuserisfoxxy]

@@dizzycorn8128 the live action ruined that too😭😭

[@smoothie9931]

@@Spookycuty tbh, I'd say the opposite. Forwards is backwards. making everything about diversity and PC... so what if the majority of the casting is white. Ignoring diversity when it comes to casting a set is exactly what should be happening, to avoid discrimination against either race.

[@Spookycuty]

@@smoothie9931 though I do agree, that is unfortunately a very unpopular opinion. I’m sure people would probably go as far as saying that those who hold that opinion are somehow bad people. People try so hard to make things politically correct, that we are now at a point where it seems nobody can ever be pleased.

[@romeblanchard3419]

The next thing we know is that they’re remaking Strawberry Shortcake but make it grimmer

[@carm.caramia]

oh god no please not that.

[@ivieatayo6707]

They gonna make Strawberry a Rasberry now istg

[@shortytori9119]

Combine Strawberry Shortcake and Sweeney Todd! "Don't ask what the filling is made out of!"

[@neko_puff]

Don't give them any ideas!

[@greenergrass4060]

*Expired*

[@mariaparra9739]

I never looked at the winx and said oh man I wish I was that skinny. I loved the story line and friendships. THATS IT!

[@creepydoll2872]

Also its a cartoon, I have never looked at a cartoon and thought about looking like it. Its a drawing and not much else to me.

[@PrincessLockette]

@@creepydoll2872 EXACTLY!!

[@totally_a_spy]

Same. The plot and the friendships were so good, that honestly the focus was never on how pretty the girls were. I wanted to be like them. I didn't want to look like them

[@erickamunoz9497]

I also love the clothes but I never looked at their body types I just thought if they were meant to suit the clothes not the other way around

[@mellow2636]

Right 💀 I just wanted wings

[@Sid-ux4bg]

I'm hoping Netflix won't discover the "totally spies" and ruin this colourful teenage show

[@Sid-ux4bg]

@Phoenix Wrong and how much you wanna bet that we would see more high school drama and less missions and cool gazettes discussed as make up products

[@Sid-ux4bg]

@Phoenix Wrong although it wouldn't be completely out of character to see them living a party teenage life, again, this is not what these types of shows are about,we don't want "relatable" teens living the high school life that we didn't,we want fantasy

[@genie6202]

That’s literally the first thing I thought after I finished

[@dontperceiveme3025]

It's soooo coming our way I can see it😩Fate: The Totally Spies saga. We made it dark and edgy so alex is now white, clover acts like a 40 year old karen and sam is a hardcore meth addict🥰✨ And because it's YA we put them all into black leather suits, because colors are sooo outdated 🙄

[@irmacommentsalot7380]

@@dontperceiveme3025 my heart ached reading this because i know they would give us this

[@alien_from_andromeda]

the fashion is so disappointing, literally today i still see “outfits inspired by the winx club” why wouldn’t they see this and think “we should pay attention to the fashion”

[@Skyline-ut3es]

Bcoz their looks dont match fancy clothes lol

[@queenC6969]

Their fashion designer prolly a boomer the type of boomer who would call these “fashion” and then proceed to criticize the aesthetic fashion “what tha fawk are you wearing” kinda criticism. That’s why it’s so boring and plain ugly.

[@XGuessX5]

They all look Homeless. Zero fashion sense

[@kulekid9244]

The show was modernized

[@j4r3d29]

I hate kids

[@erinbailey7940]

The “mansplaining” part of Bloom and Sky’s meetcute was the dumbest, least-woke addition. She just said she didn’t know anything about the school. Therefore it’s not mansplaining for him to tell her about it. Why even say that if you’re not going to use it properly? He’s just explaining!!!

[@lipuz6026]

so dumb

[@chelsea9641]

I like how you called it out!!

[@123musa1]

Bruh, that made me so annoyed!! I was like that's not what it means???

[@chimiko13]

Super cringed at that scene 😬🙉

[@Daydreamerrr574]

@@chimiko13 same like damn the guy can’t even talk

[@nyrinsmind7345]

aisha just felt like a huge stereotype of the mammy as the way she becomes the group mother but they don't barely notice her issues.

[@karolinakuc4783]

True. Layla from the show was so much better. Black people should care about quality of their representation not quantity

[@samiradania]

They should just have thrown Riven and Musa’s relationship in the show if they wanted toxicity

[@faithd2834]

😂 I was just thinking about how I liked that the original show gave different examples of different types of relationships. They all weren't sunshine and rainbow all the time.

[@kcdenile4433]

HAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA

[@claudia9339]

OMG I didnt realize he was supposed to be THAT Riven (I forgot that was his name actually) and NOW I get THAT scene - Yeah I mean the only scene in which they talk, that was weird

[@jikra]

Musa is my favorite of the bunch, so i always hated Riven as a child lol So yeah, true.

[@Victoria-_]

Fr 😂😂

[@littleekellyy]

wait, stop. these people are supposed to be 16 year olds????? they look 30. i thought they were in college.

[@WanderingSorceress]

Pretty sure the original Winx Club had them be college students. Then the English translations made the high schoolers. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. Also, if they really wanted to make it edgier, then why didn't they make the characters college students??? Seriously, they do not look like teenagers...

[@kuro.3650]

me too wtf

[@cynthiaanderson6410]

@@WanderingSorceress it’s called Alphea College for Fairies, but the girls are all 15-16 except for Stella who got held back a year and should be 17. The education track might work differently for faeries especially because Alphea mostly seems to be for honing their magic

[@WanderingSorceress]

@@cynthiaanderson6410 I'm aware of that, but I was talking about how the English translations changed it from being an actual college to a high school. Unicorn of War made a few videos on how the English translations changed the show, such as Aisha's name being changed to Layla then back to Aisha.

[@cynthiaanderson6410]

@@WanderingSorceress it might be because there were several English translations (like the Aisha/Layla thing)

[@LishiePoo]

I hate that they got rid of the Trix sisters and instead just replaced them with BeaTRIX. Ugh. Gross

[@morgianasartre6709]

Honestly the Trix sisters were the most interesting characters in the original to me, so I was really bummed out.

[@rebeccamadsen4509]

Ugh! Trix were my absolute favourites! Hell give me a prequel series of them coming to cloud tower! Also hated Icy's origin story in the cartoon.. I usually like morally grey characters but the cool thing with trix was that they were just plain evil!

[@kimcroft2007]

yes bring back the Trix sisters....... pls

[@mlpsecrets7931]

WHAT THEY GOT RID OF ICEY, STORMY, & DARCY! *THAT IS UNFORGIVABLE*

[@rebeccamadsen4509]

@@mlpsecrets7931 yup. It is now a FAIRY called Beatrix...

[@meowymeow10]

Netflix: teenage girl want edgy, relatable, more adult themed show remakes What they really want: just a remake of their favourite show for nostalgia

[@DiggandDugg]

I just want all the colourful and feminine parts of Winx mixed with the power and friendship. It was iconic and Netflix could never!

[@PrincessLockette]

And now they're doing the same thing with the powepuff girls smh

[@samanthas2270]

Literally I have rewatched the original series so many times, even as a young adult. If they could properly translate that fun world and outfits and everything into a live action without white washing as well it would be glorious, at this rate I think the fans just need to do it because obviously we sure can do it better. I feel like if this was a completely unrelated story about fairies maybe I would’ve liked it more, but knowing that it was meant to be based off the Winx, the show left me soooo unbelievably disappointed. I watched it with my SO and spent the whole time going “that’s not how they’re like” “they’re meant to be best friends” “this isn’t right”. Tis a time….. makes me wanna just rewatch the first season again lol

[@Kpimpmaster]

They want a “good and faithful” remake

[@ilovecats6548]

Literally like is it such a crime for me to want a remake with pretty dresses and bright colors and amazing lasting friendships

[@alexaswantek7985]

The whole representation of body types is great and all, but it’s a a bad excuse to not cast a Hispanic Flora. They could have cast Flora as Hispanic and fat, or made Terra a completely new character. One socially conscious decision doesn’t cancel out another.

[@eiffiedarkness649]

I would have like to see both terra and flora tbh

[@communist_oranges]

Also, they represented the other body types really badly. There was one girl who wasn't skinny and all of her lines and plotlines are about her not being skinny. As a big girl, I was genuinely offended by their lack of effort.

[@alexaswantek7985]

@@communist_oranges same!! I am also a big girl, and there is so much more to my personality than my weight!

[@meowmixaly937]

Terra as a new character....I'll love that....But I need I really need tecna back

[@susiethemissingchildchica3922]

@@starduststudios5671 Shut up

[@-Theo-]

*Fate the Winx Saga cast:* -Bloom- -Dark Bloom -Stella- -Diaspro -Musa- -Introverted Mitzi -Aisha/Layla- -TokenBlackCharacter324531 -Flora- -Who? -Tecna- -

[@violetnyoni6975]

I FELL OFF MY BED 😂😂

[@littlearies3862]

Literally though.

[@samira9893]

TEENA FBHJCFBEILBVE

[@-Theo-]

Sami Ms gurl I wrote Tecna but it looks like Teena cause of the strike through 😭🤚

[@samira9893]

@@-Theo- OH SHIT BNVJHBFG I THOUGHT YOU SAID TEENA BC YOU WERE MAKING FUN OF TERRA LMAO

[@lilyh7196]

They really dressed Tera horribly. Half to the time she looks so uncomfortable. Hell they all looks so uncomfortable. When they showed them for the first time they all looked like this 🧍‍♀️

[@Jxrts]

It was as if the directors were trying to make fun of her for being fat. They even wrote it in the dialogue bro. They hate her as much the fandom does lmao

[@UnderEveryBookAndCranny]

Yeah... they gave her army colors.. just cause it’s green and brown for earth doesn’t mean it’s got to be ugly... smh 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@xXxIMNOTANGELxXx]

I love how they tried to be "accepting" and pander to today's society by creating a plumper character, and then they made her stupid, annoying, with no sense of style and all the other girls borderline bully her. Great job Netflix, you got your inclusivity cookie points. Also I wish they kept Flora and made her a hippie or something.

[@MollyMcGeeSimp]

Good thing I'm always naked😊

[@ohitsmsollie.ollielee893]

Not to mention the way they say their lines..it's like they grit their teeth to say their lines..bloom the most horrible

[@kaleidoscope777]

Netflix's reboot feels like an attack. It's an insult to the "girlyness" of OG Winx.

[@nashiwinchester7644]

I agree

[@GaliadelaRosa]

Imagine Flora as a curvy latina but instead of being shown as a sex object hot-crazy- latina type of stereotype she explores fashion styles that are often seen as not ideal for curvy women, like romantic or otome style, for example, in the country i live in, its expected of a curvy woman to be sexy and not go for cute looking styles

[@iloveroses208]

Exactly, I loved flora because she was so nurturing and kind. Netflix just took that away and played into stereotypes

[@sheinaalawode6270]

They made it to be flora cousin but was mentioned for 3seconds in the first episode

[@espeon871]

YES!! Omg and it’ll be such great outfit inspo for plus size girls with a more cutesy style and will give representation to curvy and plus size latinas in media too. Ps I love your pfp the shirt is adorable

[@Toribell1928]

Cottagecore or kfashion style Flora would be soooo cute🥺

[@iloveroses208]

@@Toribell1928 right!

[@ciwte]

maybe i’m just old school, but if they don’t have wings, they aren’t fairies... i understand they lost their transformation powers, but they’re practically just like... earth benders or water benders or witches or nymphs... or any basic mythical thing with magic... idk wings are basically the one quality that separates fairies from other mythical creatures in my mind

[@maievv08]

well, bloom does get wings in the end so- also I don't need the replies. i'm not gonna read them. have a nice day tho xx

[@Love-xb3cj]

@@maievv08 exactly and that’s why you don’t judge something before watching the whole thing.

[@renab.7390]

Yeah, I mean the show is literally called Winx - wings. Just saying.

[@ciwte]

y’all ik ONLY bloom gets wings in the last episode, but she doesn’t even fly so what was the point lmao

[@wonderlandbunny8160]

An evolution would be getting to be like the Tooth Fairy from Rise of the Guardians, to get some scales dunno. Losing the wings is just lame.

[@melizanimue]

being a teenager doesn't equate depressing colors, dark tones, and sad shit, it can also be all sunshine and glitter. we like winx even until now bc it gives us a nostalgic feeling, it makes us feel like children again. fate doesn't do that.

[@teachermarvin9373]

Yesssss this!!! Being a teenager isn't all just drama, dark, and a dreary tone. Most teens just have fun and that's what winx did back in 2004. They made it realistic but magical enough to show that they are like any other regular teen just having fun and enjoying themselves. And they acted and looked like 16 year olds (unlike the live in which they look like 25 year olds).

[@nosirrah.]

For real! They took away everything we love about Winx Club. They should have just made Fate a different thing.

[@MysteryGaming101]

@@nosirrah. it is a different thing...no one understands that this isn’t meant to be a replica of the original. The animation was just a spring board. This is meant to have the base idea of the original but taken a different tone. It’s a mature show!! Of course it’s going to be different. They kept a few of the details the same like names, some relationship, dragon flame, etc. but it’s never going to be the same, never was.

[@nosirrah.]

@@MysteryGaming101 If they wanted to make a show mature, that doesn't mean that they have to take away all of its color, give them ugly clothes, give them basic drama, basic dialogue , and basic story lines. Not to mention they changed the characters way too much to the point where they're almost unrecognizable (except for Bloom, Stella even though her personality is off, and Aisha a little bit) like there is a large lack of diversity. They literally said that they were trying to target older audiences who watched the show as a child but they didn't do anything but just make most of us dislike it because they literally took away everything that we love about it and made it into the ordinary dark basic show that we see on Netflix all the time. They really had the opportunity to do something great with this 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@clawspear4597]

K

[@nafeesa1269]

I’m south Asian but I love flora so much, i remember watching this show as a kid and being so happy to see flora because she looked like me in skin color

[@blueberries1082]

Same. Also Ayesha, I didn't know she was supposed to be black when I was 7-8 yrs old watching this show. I genuinely thought she was also South Asian because Aisha/Ayesha is a pretty common name here.

[@brunetteartist24]

@@blueberries1082 same!! I could kinda understand musa was supposed to be chinese coded but i thought both flora and aisha were meant to he south asian (indian to be specific)

[@jinorism]

@@blueberries1082 fair. and i also thought flora was black growing up and related to her because i’m not that dark, which i think is really cool. as kids we really don’t care about their canon ethnicities or whatever, the diversity of appearance was more than enough.

[@umair1747]

there was Trista, who was an south asian charecter! she was featured mostly in the comics but made an appearance in season 3

[@mariorizkallah5383]

Self worship is such a cancer tbh

[@AliceDeWolfe]

We need to talk about the characters more. Bloom was literally the MOST irritating and least-relatable character. First off, she almost burned her parents to a crisp because she was mad they took her door away?! After she yelled and cussed at her mom in a way that my own mother would have killed me for? There was absolutely no explanation why she was considered a weirdo or why she was so aggro towards her parents. Then she’s literally so stand-offish with the Winx for no reason? All of them including Stella towards the end, help her and each other showing a hint of that original friendship from Winx. Bloom, however, DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for ANY of them. My girl Aisha was treated like shit the ENTIRE time. In my opinion, Bloom’s character was horrible and super rough. I for sure would never have been friends with someone like her. She’s incredibly selfish and causes so much destruction because she can’t use a bit of common sense. How she gonna trust Beatrix when she literally MURDERED someone? Bloom was just like “eh she had to have her reasons” WHAT?! She treated her friend and Sky like shit. I wish that they hadn’t easily forgave her. She also caused the headmistress DEATH by releasing Rosalind. The original Bloom was a kind-hearted girl who cared the most about her friends and loved ones. She wasn’t some whiny ass selfish bitch who only cared about herself and her problems. I’m still so mad that NO ONE helped Aisha when she was stressing out about her magic. that was so shitty. If they decide to renew this, I hope they do some fucking justice to Bloom because season 1 WAS NOT IT. edit: wow i didn’t expect so many likes and comments. Let me just say when I wrote this I didn’t realize how aggro it sounded whoops!! I’m studying to be a writer and I have screenwriting experience so I was very angry from that standpoint non how they botched the characters, especially the protagonists! That said, everyone is entitled to their opinions! This is just mine :) please be kind and respectful to everyone else’s! Also, I love the discussion in the comments about the reasons this character sucked! Also, I should clearly state that I wasn’t expecting an exact cartoon to live-action accuracy. They chose a different route which isn’t necessarily bad, but they did it horrendously in my opinion. Could have been SO MUCH better!!! Also, the clothing was atrocious! Definitely could have taken some tips from the wardrobe department of Euphoria!

[@ashleya1631]

Frickin preach

[@antoniav4133]

THANK YOU!! my thoughts exactly. I was so annoyed about Bloom because she did the most selfish things? Like freeing the woman she knows to be so evil and manipulating that she had to be put away for years just so she can find her parents? What? That's so careless and damn selfish.

[@folinespinosa6313]

I totally agree with you!

[@loaroach]

She reminded me of Elena from TVD and then I remember who's working on the show...

[@akai8401]

Let's talk about the fact that she thinks she knows everything better than TEACHERS that have been in Alfea for decades. She didn't trust Farah when she said Rosaline was dangerous, and when Rosaline said she did destroy a whole village, because her parents weren't there when the attack occured she was like 'oh Rosaline said they were bad people' like ???? How selfish and insensitive. She wouldn't say that if her parents died this day

[@xLadyRaine]

I hated how they stripped aisha of her princess title and basically gave her entire personality to bloom

[@PitXRoxas]

omfg

[@zayamacintosh5389]

Literally! They Made her blooms sidekick

[@yueuphoria8952]

@@zayamacintosh5389 Even worse : they made her the "black bestfriend".

[@chanelsimone6072]

This omg this!!!! They made her into Bonnie Bennett!!!

[@banahisayas4832]

@@yueuphoria8952 My least favorite trope of all time! Ugh I’m so sick of it! I didn’t even watch the og show so I thought the Netflix one would be ok. I didn’t click past the first episode 💆🏾‍♀️

[@brainrot5267]

Are there no witches in this series?? Also it sounds like there’s some kind of weird rivalry between Stella and Bloom which doesn’t make any sense. For a show that tries to show off how “woke” it is, it sure does push the trope of there needing to be toxicity and jealousy between girl friends. Bloom saved Stella in the original series, and though Stella is prideful and popular, she’s not a bitch lmao. She doesn’t look down upon other girls to make herself feel better, which is the impression I get from this Netflix series. Also there’s no need for there to be a love triangle!!! It would’ve been a better plot twist/reveal if they kept the storyline of how Sky and Brandon switched names. Is there even royalty in this series?? Will we ever get to explore the inside of Cloud Tower?? Will we ever meet Daphne?? Will we ever take field trips with Professor Palladium to Black Mud Swamp???? I’m so upset lmao

[@ohsorrythatwassarcasm6016]

RIP Brandon we never saw you may you rest in peace

[@lucia-dv8mv]

i’m suspecting that there will be witches, actually! a side note, my comment is probably going to include spoilers.... anyways, at the end rosalind mentions an ancient war that was as old as the burned ones. i think that the ancient war might be referring to something caused by the ancestral witches and that they’ve played a part in everything. besides, there’s a whole otherworld! there’s no way alfea is the only school in the entire otherworld.

[@brainrot5267]

@@ohsorrythatwassarcasm6016 I mean technically we did, since “Sky’s” real name is supposed to be Brandon? Unless the blonde guy is the real Prince Sky who was always in love with Bloom, not Stella?? I can’t even tell.

[@lunarisita26]

​@@brainrot5267 I mean Brandom pretended to be Prince Sky in the animated series once too. Sky is the blonde one and Brandom has brown hair. Brandom dated Stella and Sky dated Bloom . I'm prety sure he'll be in the second season but i don't think they're going to make Sky a prince, maybe a noble? Brandom was Sky best friend too not Riven like in the show...

[@mariaelenamattone5221]

they said aster dell was populated by blood whitches, which is where beatrix was born. i think this means she's a blood witch! plus she's meant to represent the trixes so it makes sense :)

[@harrie8747]

As a young latina, born and raised in latin-america, and growing up with the winx saga, i absolutely adore flora, she was everything i saw in women surround me, physically (a more tan skin with dark/brown hair) and in personality wise. And i often feel like these famous movie industries often only portray latina woman in two ways: 1° The spice, caliente latina and 2° the jealous, angry latina. So me, as a young girl seeing a magical and smart woman who looks like me in a famous cartoon was everything that i could ask for. The way they ripped her off in this was what really made me decide to not watch this show. PS: Sorry for any mistakes, english is not my first language

[@mickaylastewart4955]

Even though I know everything isn’t about race but this whole, “black girl savior, and no one helping her when she needs it”. Like I’m tired of it, we’re human just like everyone else. They dead made me hate Aisha in this remake

[@mariiiiiiiiuahhha]

they tried to make her blooms bestfriend as if to say “look she’s important!!!” when they didnt even do her character justice. it’s crazy

[@mickaylastewart4955]

@@mariiiiiiiiuahhha right. What made it even worse was that she really didn’t have any redeeming qualities at all.

[@elizabethgatsby3442]

My favorite part of Aiesha’s character in the original series was that she was a dynamic, active, character that had her own development and existed independently from the other girls. You never get that in adult shows let alone kids shows. She basically existed to be Blooms mother in this and nothing else.

[@ahoam]

Watching this review I was like 'oh lord, they made the black woman the mammy😒'

[@nocturnalanimals5884]

same!!!! she was so annoying

[@claudia9339]

funfact: "fate" in Italian literally means "fairies" lol

[@lucia-dv8mv]

@Aru Orazali_Aleronii it does. i suggest you watch the show before spreading misinformation. if you don’t feel like doing this, simply don’t comment on it.

[@evichibell8355]

@@lucia-dv8mv Bru, just cause bloom has ridicule wings doesn't mean that the show has wings. She had a weak transformation and the wings weren't for her (I mean the design) likeee come on

[@lucia-dv8mv]

@@evichibell8355 i don’t suppose you’re going to give your own money personally to the crew to pay for them to have more detailed wings. they have limitations too. they have a budget theyre set to follow. it’s not like everything is free and they have an infinite budget to satisfy your ‘needs’.

[@evichibell8355]

@@lucia-dv8mv Yeah...every show has a budget and that doesn't mean they have to be bad. There are tons of shows that don't have the resources but can pull it off via creativity. For example, the scene could've been better if Bloom had a better outfit since the dark jacket kinda blew it off, they could also show her in different angles and change the lighting so that we could at least see them well. Improve the design or make effects around instead of one part where we couldn't even see well and when we did, it wasn't that good I'm no expert but ppl don't need resources to be more creative

[@lucia-dv8mv]

@@evichibell8355 fate is meant to be darker and less child-friendly. an outfit change would’ve been cool, but it is what it is. if you’re upset by the lack of outfit change there’s always the option to not watch if it truly does bother you that much.

[@toto-mo1lh]

"ahhh yes, lets remake a bright happy magical girl show but take away the bright, the happy, and the magical girls"

[@Neliel97]

Wow! Blonde white girl mean? Quiet black girl smart? Plus-size girl who wears tents insecure? Netflix bro ur gonna kill me with all these original ideas!!

[@aleniksimmer9591]

I'm crying xD

[@fairoadiary]

“Who wears tents” LMAO RIGHT

[@irehoutsold287]

and main girl quirky, so original😝

[@alessiar3260]

PLS NOT THE TENTS😭

[@g.t2231]

Fr😭✋

[@vitulapuffer9043]

I like how the old cartoon’s costume design reflected the characters PERSONALITY rather than their powers. Blue - Bloom Orange - Stella Green - Aiesha/Layla Red - Musa Pink - Flora Purple - Tecna

[@littlewitchling535]

It was so creative. I give them props for that

[@TUMBLJUMBL]

I don't understand what you mean how are the colors reflecting their personalities?

[@UmBelenense]

@@TUMBLJUMBL theory of colours Psycology stuff

[@random_meta]

@@TUMBLJUMBL I think it's a combination of their powers+personalities. For example, Bloom has the fire powers, but she's also the leader. She needs to be calm and collected just like her color_Blue. Stella is flashy and lively. Her power is... Literally the light so her color is orange. Flora is caring and mature, so her color is pink. Musa is meant to represent an Asian character, most likely chinese. The red in her personality is mostly shown through the ups and downs in her personal life, since she has the most stormy relationship with her on and off boyfriend. Passion and Anger together. This is already too long, I'll stop now

[@CureSmileful]

Their cartoon colors look good with their powers too. Blue look awesome with fire, Pink look good with plants, purple look good with neon green Tecna uses etc.

[@nivelle420]

I really hated that the show didnt even put icy darcy and stormy, those 3 were literal fashion icons too in the cartoon. Like imagine darcy wearing euphoria maddy's purple pants with a halter crop top

[@Urmom-gs5wm]

They would probably do something horrid to the trix if they already made the winx that bad, for example probably make icy some blondie cause they cant afford white/blue hair dye. And probably some burnette for stormi. Its best we dont give them any ideas

[@agarotaestatueta2811]

YES! YES! OH YEAH

[@hatuushitsha802]

@@agarotaestatueta2811 orgasm 😶

[@omegagamer4124]

they combined the character as beltrix

[@-isavell-6147]

I wanted to see Darcy and how she would look especially with those sunglasses she wore

[@nyanco1746]

Most of the movie/tv industry has removed the ‘girly’ genre entirely which makes me sad because those shows had shaped my personality. Why is valuing friendship and enjoying cute clothes seen as a bad thing now. Even video games like this disappeared. 😭

[@anachacon8519]

can we just talk about how terra's only personality is being "oversize" or "fat" like they just made her like that for no reason. also Flora was latina, wtf happened Netflix.

[@hernanpeter9583]

Terra is actually Flora's cousin and not Flora, this pissed me off

[@lukaurbankitek6019]

@@hernanpeter9583 thank you

[@lukaurbankitek6019]

Her personality is a bit deeper than that. I mean, you can see that she isn't insecure only about her weight. You can see her relationship with her father, which is complicated. Also, her relationship with Dean. I dont think that her whole personality is just about her being overweight.

[@Milana-ho5qc]

@@hernanpeter9583 wait wha- did I miss something

[@Leticia-ul2iz]

@@Milana-ho5qc She said this in the 1st episode

[@paintwhisker]

The only good thing that comes from Tecna being removed is that now the show can’t ruin her.

[@NIHIL_EGO]

Girl's smart, she yeeted out of the show before it even begun.

[@karastark5363]

Techna is the most grounded character in the series. Not to mention she is the smartest, has a non toxic relationship but she is so underrated

[@SultanNizi3000GT]

@@karastark5363 Tecna literally sacrificed herself back in Season 3. Never forget.

[@CaptRex501st]

Reason #345 why Tecna is my favorite

[@sindiiiii]

Kara Stark IKR RIGHT tecna and tim were my FAVS I WANTED THEM TO BE MY PARENTS LMAO

[@prettyspectrum6371]

"The stylist is used to wear middle aged women" EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW

[@fairy_floss]

LITERALLY 💀

[@naurrrre]

Are they supposed to be 16? Terra looks 45

[@ninalou4629]

@@naurrrre clearly none of them look remotely like teenagers but no need to be nasty to the actress.. shes obviously not 45 & you know it.

[@prettyspectrum6371]

@@naurrrre EXACTLY. She literally looks like the moms i see in the supermarket and i wish i was joking

[@naurrrre]

@@ninalou4629 calm down, public school. i was saying she looks 45 because of the way they dressed her, she could’ve looked younger with the right styling. here she looks like she just went through a divorce

[@wulfie8670]

This is just basically "Can I copy your homework" "Sure, but make it look different so it dosen't look copied"

[@luiiiandmovieee]

at least they did a good job in making it look different ...

[@evilieeemia7779]

...and it still ended up getting an F- LOL

[@emilyntan3694]

Netflix is looking at the 00's for new shows. If they're touching Monster High, I will cancel my subscription with them.

[@Urmom-gs5wm]

FR IF THEY TOUCH MONSTER HIGH IM CANCELLING MY SUBSCRIPTION AND NEVER GETTING IT AGAIN

[@aquagoldwolf443]

If they touch that and Ever After High ESPICIALLY Ever After High I’m DONE

[@Urmom-gs5wm]

@@aquagoldwolf443 FR

[@Chocochoochootrain]

SHUSH DONT GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS

[@multifantentacultist2027]

oh shit-

[@littleekellyy]

no hate on “terra” but wtf. flora was my favorite since as a hispanic little girl, i looked most like her. i’m so upset they didn’t add her. she could’ve been a bigger girl AND hispanic/latina.

[@racoonaj2526]

Plus what type of name is Terra? Lol they really messed up, Flora was Latina and they should’ve kept her the same

[@unofficialbeautyqueen6624]

was flora a mixed latina? because in the show her sister is quite paler compared to her.

[@littleekellyy]

@@unofficialbeautyqueen6624 i’m not sure if she is, they never really mention too much about her ethnicity other than stating she’s latina. you don’t necessarily need to be a mixed latino to be a different tone from your sibling though. i’m more on the medium/ tan skin tone and my sister has a really deep skin tone. both of our parents are mexicans.

[@unofficialbeautyqueen6624]

@@littleekellyy that's true, I know growing up with my other black friends they saw themselves in her as well because they weren't as dark as aisha was.

[@zoazede2098]

@@unofficialbeautyqueen6624 you know we aren't all dark skinned in Latinoamérica right? ಠ_ಠ)

[@MegaManDBZX]

Here’s my two biggest problems with the show. 1: The characters here feel like the writers skimmed through the wiki, found one descriptive word about the characters and made that it for them. Like Stella being a diva and Riven being roguish. 2: The dialogue. I swear, it was like this show was written by a twelve year old who just learned what swearing, sex, and controlled substances were. Example every word out of Riven’s mouth being a sex joke or “Dur hur hur. I smoke weed!” I have never loved the mute button more in my life!

[@a49-n2o]

You took the words outta my mouth😭😭 the cursing and substance/sex language feels like it was literally put in just to look cool, i feel like a large group of scriptwriters think this is what they need to make a "teen" "mature" "dark" tv show, when actually the truly smart scriptwriters would know this is 100% false - an effective script for this genre relies on the plot, the energy, the way the characters express and communicate with each other and their environments. And adding 'adulty words' for bait makes it embarrasing, not dark. .___.

[@myown2730]

It is a generic teen serie with the name “Winx” in the title (the show is basically magic, sex, drugs, alcohool, people with no personality, sex again, alcohool again)

[@emilia-vd5ed]

The dialogues YAS exactly !

[@isabelguerra3151]

Techna could have been an electric/electricity fairy 🤷🏽‍♀️ But then again, I'm kinda glad she never appeared, since they would have totally ruined her character.

[@nagisamizuno872]

Ew why is Stella wearing black? The OG Stella would never be caught dead in ANY of these outfits. I don't know why they feel it has to be angsty or dark for young adults to enjoy, I'd still watch the original series in my 20s

[@fuunosenshi]

Totally agree, the original Stella wouldn't have used Any of the outfits in the show. They made the character look uptight, snob, and outdated. Stella was none of those things

[@bruh-mb1rd]

Stella would've worn white if she needed a neutral colour, never would she wear black indeed

[@megespinosa1776]

She always wore bright neon (mostly yellow I think) colors lmaoo

[@CatCW]

I still watch the original show and I am in my twenties. 🤣 Me an dmy best friend watched the reboot together and we were lost on what's happening half the runtime of the show 🤣

[@MsWhocares14]

They never stopped making the winx animation series there are like 6 or more seasons currently don't know if new ones are set to come out but yeah you'd think they had sense enough to see that fans obviously like the style of the show as is ...a revamped storyline would of been great but this look Is a no 😬 I'm 25 still watching to this day

[@yashnatamrakar]

STELLA IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FASHIONISTAAA NOT A MEAN GIRLL THERE IS A DIFFERENCE also i can now understand why archie comic fans were so mad at riverdale

[@ApequH]

It's such a stupid trope to get these two mixed up

[@AhHowAmusing]

you know men can't tell the difference

[@bansheeveil]

True, she was actually very nice imo lol

[@dklir]

Like that girl from a 90's movie, clueless shes a fashionista

[@n111sha]

they didnt wanna copy the show

[@caledoniam.9650]

One of my biggest problems was Aisha's character. Every girl had there own storyline, Musa had her parents and sam, Terra had her insecurities and Bruce (I think that was his name), Stella had her mom and sky, and bloom had the whole show. But Aisha's only plot line was helping bloom and then ratting her out. She felt like she wasn't even in the later episodes. All of the villains had more complexity than she did and it just goes to show how the writers used her character purely for brownie point and "diversity"

[@Almandeen]

I think Aisha had the most interesting moral struggle, and I loved how it started affecting her magic, so I think the building blocks for a great arc were there, sadly they never saw it through and she never got to work through her moral struggles and fix her magic, so I agree with you her story ended up being meh...

[@yukiandkanamekuran]

Plus it's a racist stereotype of a black woman being the motherly type character.

[@pussydestroyer69285]

@@yukiandkanamekuran exactly. Smh. Wine club also had an ASIAN and a Latina. They literally just put all white girls with one black. Smh

[@agb8206]

@@pussydestroyer69285 Ik it’s autocorrect but “wine club” got me rolling BAHAHA

[@pussydestroyer69285]

@@agb8206 lmfaoooo.

[@bgs7529]

old people writing and designing teenager characters.... always tragic

[@Kpimpmaster]

LOL FACTS BRO ABSOLUTE FACTS!!!

[@hello-jg4tx]

i feel like this has nothing really to do with winx. if it wasn’t called “the winx saga” and all of the characters had different names it could just be any show. we don’t have the good fashion, the bright colors, the futuristic technology (like the flying cars), wings and many other things that just belong to winx anymore

[@dfquartzidn6151]

Exactly. I think that’s the biggest problem in the show. Just by watching this video, I could tell that this series doesn’t seem too bad. There were quite the many interesting aspects there, even the ones that weren’t present in the animated series. But because it’s supposed to be based on a series that already exists, it automatically deteriorates.

[@bente1695]

They changed the story and the looks of the story and now wonder why no one likes it. Everything winx is gone!

[@piper7764]

exactly if they had just swapped a few names around and not called it winx i would of watched it and enjoyed it. but it really doesnt resemble winx at all.

[@peepinsleep409]

the vibe is so off

[@parkjaehyung13]

True

[@smokugoku]

I love how its called Fate: The WINX saga, because its really not a club. They took the whole sisterhood of strong young women aspect and traded it for half-baked love triangles and shitty sassy one liners. Give me one reason why Aisha and Bloom fought in the third episode... oh right. Not because it was natural, because the plot called for it. And what was that scene where Stella was going on about why Aisha was joining them?? They treated her like a fucking weak link, as if Stella was a vessel to the writers saying "Why is this black girl even here??" I have so many problems but I'm in the middle of class rn getting upset LMAO

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

she's basically the supportive black friend....I hate it here.

[@chaaaargh]

see i didn't even think about like that, now i really don't like it 😭

[@smokugoku]

It makes less sense because aisha was kinda right! Like aisha was the only one who could use her power effectively and responsibly.

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

@@smokugoku I 100% agreeeeee

[@susiem.2068]

AND They striped her of her title, let me just not get upset because I-

[@blondiebarbie2007]

They did Stella SO dirty. She was my favourite character because she was so friendly and nice even tho she might look like the popular mean girl. But in this live action she's just..... terrible. She's so mean. Also the fashion is just insulting.

[@Kyrie7871]

'Also the fashion is so insulting' OHHHHHHH

[@haihai9022]

When I first watched Winx with my mum, I first thought they were my mother’s age. Is that just me, or did the costume designer mistake teenagers for Facebook mums?

[@blablible7156]

Yes I was so disappointed

[@parkjaehyung13]

Yesss the outfits were so dry and the personalities were so stereotypical

[@PitXRoxas]

EXACTLY

[@ashking5340]

For me, I think the most disappointing aspect is the lack of friendship. We still don't have a good example of what a nontoxic, supportive, empowering female friendship looks like in shows targeted at teenage girls. While growing up, I didn't see one onscreen healthy friendship (Gossip Girl, Pretty Little Liars, Secret Life - there was always some sort of horrible betrayal or insult, and you don't treat people like that) and we still don't see one in Fate. When at its core, the Winx Club was about the beautiful friendships between very different women. Especially making Bloom and Stella's relationship strained over a boy?? Are you kidding me? I am so upset with the writers, directors, and anyone else who had something to do with that decision. It's just insulting at this point.

[@theConnieAurora]

This!! They were more like a bunch of mean girls who tolerate each other because it benefits them and call it „friendship“ even though they barely had any friendly interactions

[@luisaperez3926]

If they wanted to have a fucking love triangle couldn't they just made Sky a prick who's playing them both or something? and meanwhile the relationship between both girls flourishes, and they become very good friend because no crush should dictate how you treat another person. It even could become a romantic relationship between Stella and Bloom, where they realize that the other person is soooo great and why Sky likes them both, and instead of having to settle with the white boy they fall-in-love, and have a beautiful relationship. This way you don't have the blatant misogyny and can add LGBT representation.

[@diamondcentury21]

@@luisaperez3926 imagine ! I would prefer your story to whatever scarps Netflix gave us. Since the very first episode I knew I won’t be shipping Sky and Bloom 🙈

[@jimerodriguez8332]

@@luisaperez3926 We don't use logic or good writing in this company- Netflix's producers

[@yutassmilehealsme6572]

And the characters themselves were very snobby/annoying (the Flora dupe) in the first episode. They were so unlikeable it left me seeing them negatively throughout the entire show. They were so unfriendly meeting each other for the first time literally no one’s like that irl

[@ashleyshepherd3949]

something I loved about Winx when I watched it as a kid is that EVERY girl (and even side character!!) had an aesthetic and style that was completely their own. Musa had a more tomboy look, Stella obviously have a preppy look, Bloom wore kind of innocent baby girl type beats, ect. Fate missed out on that by making all of the girls wear roughly the same colors and styles :((

[@Toribell1928]

I can’t with these costumes though. Like they aren’t even meh they’re just ugly and weird. It’s like what your dad picks out for you lmao.

[@headintheclouds7905]

I think my dad would pick better fits for me and he knows nothing about fashion 💀

[@stqrcles]

@@headintheclouds7905 yeah same, even my dad dresses himself better than them

[@meaplee6418]

They look like witches and not fairies

[@CureSmileful]

@@meaplee6418 Trix look better than this don't insult witches

[@meaplee6418]

@@CureSmileful omg ouchhh ahahaa

[@leovahn]

One detail I dislike is how they made Bloom’s “colors” red, JUST because she’s a redhead. In the cartoon, her color was CLEARLY turquoise, as turquoise and red go very well together. But now her color is red :/ very lame

[@darao.4907]

They just made them power rangers lmao. No one only wears one color but I can't think of an outfit in this show where Bloom doesnt wear predominantly red

[@alien_from_andromeda]

i’m so sick of that fashion choice for red heads, as a red head i’m sick of our only representation as mean girls who wear the same three outfits every show

[@leovahn]

@@alien_from_andromeda “the same three outfits every show” 😭😭😭

[@vsmmax9797]

Don’t forget her “edgy” leather jacket. Urghhh, 2021 is starting early .

[@helenemuscagorry244]

@@darao.4907 Her wings are red when in the comics and cartoon they were turquoise

[@monovailable442]

They took a Magical Girl show and then removed the 'Magical Girl' from it

[@Inurwalls02]

Well put

[@sophie4686]

fr

[@paristath6773]

That's true but it doesn't mean Fate is bad?? I agree it doesn't feel like Winx but the show on its own is great (despite the white washing and the outfits).

[@kspoo10_]

​​@@paristath6773 That's fine, but in that case it should have been its _own show_ , not just plastering the Winx name on.

[@smokugoku]

Can we talk about how Bloom kissed Sky even though she didn't know that he and Stella had broken up? Like they broke up in private and WE knew, but Bloom kissed him when she still thought they were together. Just another layer on the shitcake of Bloom's character :)

[@amandaa5006]

This netflix show really has the nerve to say it is “woke” while whitewashes and has girls fighting over a guy as one of the main plotlines

[@aleniksimmer9591]

boomer sense of woke

[@tseringtashi5841]

I really don’t care about the woke and gay representation! Just don’t take off them original characters 🥺🥺

[@00B.]

@@dacke13 correct, Bloom was spot on. Almost only her tho. Plus it's nonsense that a show for kids who came out 17 years ago had more inclusive variety than a Netflix production who generally make sure to have character of different races in shows where they weren't originally planned (for example The Witcher) no matter how much it could make sense historically speaking (see Cursed), and took all the variety out of a show who already had that type of inclusivity. This just means changing things up randomly and being incoherent imo

[@island_girl_shan]

I actually got into this faster than I did the charmed reboot but I agree with you about the love triangle storyline. I know it's been a long time since I watched winx but I don't remember Stella ever being a b*tch to Bloom or a b*tch overall. Sure she had her flaws but...idk. The drama with Syke really pissed me off. With the original I really liked that they avoided the new girl steals the guy cliché and the live action went ahead and added that silly drama. The only change I really liked was making both male and females fairies and specialist. Which with that change as well as the many others, it could have been it's very own magical show.

[@hayoumad8775]

@@tseringtashi5841 Facts i mean the gay representative kinda made it better to me but other than that the show wasnt even that good

[@itoo4884]

Why can't they just remove "the Winx Saga" from the name? This is so embarrassing. - Why is Aisha a 'Mammy' who gets nothing? - Why is Bloom fake 'misunderstood'? - Why is Stella a jerk and NOT bffs with Bloom (I know she acted stuck but most of the time, she did so unknowingly) - Why is Musa lackluster and uncool? - Why can't Terra at least ACT like Flora (since she doesn't even look like her)? - If the technology and the weird setting clash, why couldn't they keep Tecna and give her a power? She was the closest a neuroatypical person so I'm disappointed.

[@Josh-do5cl]

making Aisha a mammy and making her the only one of the girls that didn't have any self agency, but only there to take care of/baby/assist the other protagonists was honestly so painful to watch. As a black person I'm so tired of seeing this trope

[@jikra]

Yeah, they could've made tecna the fairy of mind and just let musa be the fairy of music or something. That would've still upset me, but at least it wouldn't have been as disappointing as just taking tecna out and making musa some sort of mind fairy- (Like literally what the hell??)

[@lilac.mascara]

@@jikra it makes srnse kinda if they were going for elements, like spirit yk. But then why is Stella still a light fairy? And why didn't musa stay air? Why is Belatrix the air fairy, but is basically just Stormy?? Why is Ravien dating Belatrix and not Musa? If tchnas power didn't fit why didn't they make her a specialist? I just ugh honestly.

[@lilac.mascara]

@@yejiponytail1897 yes true, but still it's a choice

[@carotorres4971]

Bloom has always been a "misunderstood", she kept on leaving Alfea because she felt she kept failing and they didn't get her because she was used to being a normal human, I think Bloom was one of the most accurate ones except for her relationship with her parents

[@lillybean1968]

Lol “we wanted to give them life or death situations” as If they weren’t already in those situations a lot. Lol I mean we were led to believe that Techna straight up died sacrificing herself. I feel like these people never watched the show.

[@blessiemasancay4818]

Nabu literally died. .... Bruh.

[@dchen8874]

@@blessiemasancay4818 will nabu even exist in Fate?

[@lillybean1968]

@@blessiemasancay4818 EXACTLY! Winx was already dark and unafraid to take risks.

[@yonicorn1641]

Half of them died getting Enchantix, Bloom's whole PLANET /and not some random small town or whatever/ was destroyed and her sister was cursed, the whole "Brandon and Sky switch identities because someone is trying to kill Sky" thing... oh yeah and the Trix

[@lillybean1968]

@@yonicorn1641 yeah! The show had so many cool plot points to choose from and they just chose to be bad!

[@melsmaybe7014]

'I was *SO* shook and confused when Stella was made the "mean girl" in the adaptation. It was annoying, I always remembered Stella as the sweet and nice girl and she was always my favorite.

[@beenishbaig3316]

she was a bit sassy in winx club but she was NEVER mean and cared a lot for Bloom and her friends/family...they completely ruined everything

[@thesimpsarecomingthesimpsa9113]

They really did my girl Stella dirty and my guy Brandon doesn’t even exist

[@Dred0n]

Exactly and where's my girl flora and tecna.

[@thesimpsarecomingthesimpsa9113]

@@Dred0n yass our tech and floral queens

[@aminmarohomsalic1997]

Ive heard that they will bring them to alfea if season 2 happens

[@MegaManDBZX]

Neither does Stella. That was just Regina George.

[@norachoumach]

EXACTLY

[@tamsinsylvie4331]

They ruined stella. She was lovable and bubbly in the cartoon and yes she could be arrogant but she wasn’t a tory snob 👀

[@angelat5554]

not tory snob HDHDHDVDVVD

[@sharon-bp9pk]

TORY SNOB BYE

[@saadfaisal4419]

LMAO TORY SNOB PLSSSSSS

[@taffitoffee3197]

Rightttt! That’s what I hated most. Stella always loved and cared for people, and would do anything for the people that mean the most to her. Sure she’s very sassy and thinks highly of herself, that’s what we love. She was literally the brightness in the dark, she was the shining sun that brought light and joy🌞✨🌻

[@raydontgiveaf3512]

stella best winx girl wbk, my girl deserved better

[@oliviac295]

When will they realise we are over all the woke, emotionally draining, dark shows? We want magic, bright colours, futustic and otherworldly settings and girlpower!

[@aliceinwoderland363]

UP UP

[@shroomshrom]

Ikr! Don’t we already have enough sad depressing dark moments in the real life today!? The series is honestly just a huge disappointment.

[@skycaesar2016]

girl power and boldness is woke in itself just by doing it, when r they gonna realise that this kinda fake woke not only doesn't help, but brings progress backwards

[@sollyoutube_19]

Exactly 👏👏👏

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

@@shroomshrom Try being a dc fan..Batman v Superman is everything this video is talking about

[@Lord_Him]

"Terra's the most likable character" sentence came literally 5 seconds after my mental rant about how she's the most dislikable one in the show xD I mean I disliked all characters but I hated Terra. Her personality makes me wanna strangle her which is made even worse by the fact she's fat and therefore besides being annoying is yet again a copy paste of the same "I'm not someone you can take seriously" stereotypes I've been dealing with my entire life both for being fat and for being autistic.

[@mar.i.videos]

I hated that they branded the show as being “woke” while whitewashing the cast. The only thing they did that was supposed to be "woke" was calling out sexism, but they never tried to solve it. They only dropped social justice words here and there and didn’t use them properly. Bloom’s first dialogue with Sky, she says that he’s "mansplaining" things to her when she previously stated that she didn’t know anything about the school!! They were constantly misusing the words and this dialogue was just so cringy to watch!!!

[@inessladia5747]

Lmao that was so confusing

[@carolin7337]

lmao i was so annoyed when she called that mansplaining like wtf?? she literally didn't know, how would that be mansplaining, it's literally just explaining

[@emerisblue8499]

Aahh glad I wasn't the only one. I was about to just close netflix down because of that. Why even mention "mansplaining"...please not here...not now.

[@foofypyonpyon3660]

Ewwwww why can't they just like, make it entertaining rather than "woke"? That's so cringe

[@mahogara]

Should've just left her alone. She is a strong independent woman. Just let her be lose and figure her ways out at totally unfamiliar place. I'm beginning to think if this is how Netflix writers see women or the women Netflix writers behave like that. 'Oh hey, welcome to the place you have never been or not accustomed to. Let me show you around so you can familiarise yourself.' 'Misogyny!'

[@dianejaynewilliams7195]

The main problem with this show is that the characters aren’t likable! Their personality literally make me cringe plus for being “teenagers” they dress like Middle Aged women

[@sionetonga6859]

Right each and every one of them annoyed tf outta me.

[@XGuessX5]

I only like beatrix to be honnest

[@kalync.8232]

I mean they dress normal. More like they don’t dress like wannabe insta famous teens.

[@nclp1751]

the only one i can stand is sam

[@dancortat7445]

Yes, they really messed up with everything on this show. That show is so bad, that I feel bad for the actors, like is not their fault, they are just following what the director, the showrunner and the script tell them to do. Just like the Riverdale cast, poor souls... Sorry my rusty english. And I dont read replies cause there are so many nonsense people on the internet.

[@smellulater1123]

it sucks that flora isn’t in the show, she was always my favorite for being hispanic Latina, they could’ve included a plus sized latina woman :(

[@GayAndDog]

THIS

[@MissMoontree]

A plus size Latina with a cottoncore/bohemian style. Give her statement earrings and bracelets! Her personality should be nerd meets Disney princess.

[@fairy_floss]

@@MissMoontree yessss and those cute puffy sleeve tops like how can you mess that up- imagine if the person who made this was a fan and cared about winx. We would of gotten something so coooool.

[@landaflores2881]

That was my issue with her, like, make her plus size go ahead, but I can't believe that in this planet Netflix couldn't find a Latina Plus size actress

[@hayoumad8775]

@@landaflores2881 Exactly my main problem is why add the cousin if your not gonna add the original character like yall could've had a latina character and probably introduced her cousin see i have nothing against terra but why replace flora just my opinion :/

[@issalol3218]

I'm not going to lie Netflix literally killed me with these unoriginal ideas the lack of diversity , the terrible makeup and don't even get me started on the costume designs. It was no doubt that Netflix not only white washed the show and added so many stereotypes, but also drained the show of its uniqueness and tried to make the PG fantasy fairy world we know and love into a "relatable teen drama". smh🤦🏻‍♀️

[@rosiepark9607]

God, the wardrobe is the most unforgivable. The story is bad but the outfits........ how does it look 10 years out of date.

[@haihai9022]

And when I forced to sit with it with my mum, I legit thought they were my mum’s age. My mum is 54 btw

[@aybee8068]

@@starduststudios5671 well I have an eating disorder, so I think I’ll be okay

[@hduhdbdjdh8925]

M

[@wil7216]

@@starduststudios5671 stfu

[@ashleychanforever]

well you've never seen what my deviantart ocs are wearing

[@smokugoku]

Also bloom's struggle in the OG Winx Club wasn't really "controlling" her power, it was harnessing it. Trying to manifest it was one of her struggles, and I feel like the way they have it set up in the Netflix one is that she's like this powerful op being that needs to control herself. OG Bloom was just a normal girl with the super powerful magic, idk that's just what I think :(

[@godzilla4005]

And og bloom was a Gryffindor 100%. And they made her a ravenclaw/Slytherin???

[@jaycionn8]

@@godzilla4005 she was confirmed to be a gryffindor?

[@happyleggo9904]

I always thought she was like a Gryffindor bc she was brave and wasn’t afraid to face things that were new to her in the magic dimension and she often looked to her friends and family for support.

[@jaycionn8]

@@happyleggo9904 yeah but this is a different bloom.

[@BuizelCream]

It seems Bloom's character in the live action doesn't reflect her name, if she spent most of the season "controlling" her powers. She was supposed to *bloom*, just like the OG Bloom did.

[@dianaay6131]

Winx had pretty good themes... -Genocide and the loss of one's ancestry -Arranged marriages -Divorce and the hardships with your parents because of it. Plus the hardships remarriage. -The loss of a parent or loved one Etc etc. So much to work with, and they ruined it.

[@loanivillalon1616]

Intentaron hacerlo "oscuro", pero para Netflix, "oscuro" significa agregar sexo, drogas, alcohol, etc.

[@Gravebirds]

I remember I cried so much when Aisha’s boyfriend died

[@ChynaKiara]

@@Gravebirds Don't get me started on that! She had pure happiness for literally one season and they killed him off at the end of the next. 😭😭😭 I cry every time I rewatch it.

[@dianaay6131]

@@Gravebirds god! I had that memory locked! It was so heartbreaking specially remembering how they were planning their marriage and everything!

[@dianaay6131]

@@ghostsxstars exactly! I feel that the live action truly messed up

[@4rgrls]

Speaking of Euphoria, it would be amazing if you analyzed the show’s outfits as well. It’s probably my favorite modern costume design.

[@cheshirerose2001]

Well you got your wish!

[@FirstnameLastname-hm9vl]

One thing that annoyed me about this new adaptation was Aisha. In the original series she was a soft spoken, considerate and even shy girl. In the beginning of season 2 she literally fell off of a cliff, saved a village of pixies while still being that soft spoken shy girl. When she was introduced in the second season, the specialists literally thirsted after her, but in this new adaptation, she gets no male attention (which she doesn't need but it's strange that the other fairies in the show have some love interest except her). I don't understand why they had Aisha fixing blooms messes and always having her nose in everyone's business when in reality, her character was the one who was the new and interesting character, but in the winx saga it's just her helping other people, instead of being the center of attention like she was in season 2 and partly season 3.

[@Shewhospeakesinverse]

Its so bonkers tht shes the Only one w zero romantic interests? Like every other girl has one even if terras ended up not being interested in her

[@fairoadiary]

Not surprised since she’s literally characterized as the black best friend trope

[@localforestwitch7215]

@@fairoadiary the most annoying of troops

[@user-us7py1cy2k]

@@fairoadiary exactly

[@l.c.8475]

While she's soft spoken she was never just "the quiet girl", because becoming a background character in her own story was everything she was raised to be, to be seen but not heard and she hated it

[@Northflowo]

It baffles me that they speak about adding diversity while going several steps back in every other diversity front

[@shineexokpop6824]

Winx it self was literally diverse. You got an Asian girl, Black girl, latina girl and white girls. I literally don't get why they changed it.

[@zashai195]

The Winx club was the one show that represented my friends and I. To have that taken away, and then have some white man try and pass it off as still being diverse is so infuriating!

[@SunaKokaru]

I mean they’re still diverse just not in the way the series was. There’s still several non white characters. Just because they’re not true to the ethnicity of the show originally doesn’t mean it’s not diverse.

[@darao.4907]

@@SunaKokaru Sis there are only two non white main characters and they are both black

[@darao.4907]

Here's my comment from earlier: I’m tired of Fate: the Winx Saga claiming to be diverse. They say that they are racially diverse but they only have TWO non white characters (and only ONE non white main character) who are BOTH eventually villified (albeit only for a short time in Aisha's case but still). They say they are diverse in body types but they only have ONE plus sized character who always gets made fun of for her weight and is never confident in it. They say that they are updating the gender roles by having male fairies and female specialists but they only have ONE male fairy and NO prominent female specialists (unless Noura counts but she got killed off). In addition, the ONE male fairy looks like a stereotypical masculine boy (because they got rid of all of the femininity that was associated with fairies) and does nothing to subvert gender roles. They claim to have LGBT rep but the ONE LGBT character is mocked for his sexuality, taken advantage of because of it, and villified (and not to mention the biphobia). Talk about performative diversity.

[@user-bz1hw5tp9b]

the forced "feminism" was a no for me

[@totally5694]

especially because the way they did it wasn't feminist at ALL, all of the writing reeks of internalized misogyny lmao. Bloom's whole "I'm not like other girls" shtick, Stella being written as the catty mean girl and demonized because she loves fashion and being feminine, all super misogynistic tropes. they really didn't even try lmao.

[@kalync.8232]

@@totally5694 Where is Stella demonized for loving fashion? She’s demonized because she’s a bitch.

[@somedragonbastard]

@@kalync.8232 She's the most outwardly feminine and "boy crazy" and is also the most hateable character

[@liseegeskov8769]

@@kalync.8232 Stella was super sweet in og but just cause She was feminine they made her a bitch.

[@heheu]

@@kalync.8232 you’re probably saying this cause you haven’t watched the original yet. Stella in the original was a rlly sweet character and very caring. I think they made her a ‘bitch’ is because she’s blonde and likes fashion. The feminism is just no

[@superwhofancestlavie3664]

This series’s only salvation is telling that this was just a nightmare of Tecna saw while being frozen in the Omega dimension LOL

[@bruenettenbarbie]

So basically this is Sabrina mixed with Riverdale dialogue and some shadowhunters vibes, got it

[@lisahoughton3262]

🤣🤣 bingo

[@moonbunnygw8342]

atleast Shadowhunters had deep storylines...

[@adoroselatte]

@@moonbunnygw8342 agree lmao,better than Riverdale and Sabrina ahek

[@myown2730]

PERIOD lol

[@raincloud04]

And less diversity

[@niktanaseri6763]

Erasing flora was a slap in the face but terra casually mentioning her cousin flora in ep 1 was a punch in the gut

[@allycielo28]

And that just makes it seem like Flora is white or half white because Terra is a WHITE girl

[@jemimaburton4101]

I heard that they might get Flora for season two but not sure

[@allycielo28]

@@jemimaburton4101 why bother they just ruin her... 😒😒

[@niktanaseri6763]

@@jemimaburton4101 honestly I can already see them pitting flora and terra against each other the way they did stella and bloom and I hate it yikess

[@pinkglitter93]

@@allycielo28 Maybe they are cousins but not by blood... (I mean maybe one of Flora's aunts or uncles, a.k.a. Terra's mother or father, is an adopted fairy)

[@kiraaisling9603]

The thing that pissed me off was them saying him explaining something was “mansplaining” that’s not mansplaining! Mansplaining is a man explaining something to women something she already knows in a condescending way. And when the mom says “don’t start that feminist crap with me” when bloom got mad at her for taking her door, I’m sorry ma’am but privacy is a human right not feminism. And why does every remake of a kids show or book have to be dark? Why can’t they be like the original tv show and not a horror/drama.

[@nuttymadnatter4715]

Omfg thank you yeh the mansapling part was so uncomfortable it honestly felt like the show was mocking feminism and actually problems females face by not even understanding and implementing the terminology correctly

[@kiraaisling9603]

@@nuttymadnatter4715 Exactly!!

[@susannam3923]

yeah, that bothered me so much oh my god and the weir references to the gender spectrum and harry potter, they thought they were being so clever

[@softboy5573]

Yes!! Bloom claiming Sky was mansplaining in the first episode put me off her so much and when Dane went to speak to Terra she turns to her dad and brother saying shit like "I know the man is always meant to help the woman but I don't need your help" really confused and annoyed me. She could've just said that she had it under control or something why did she have to bring up the whole patriarchal society topic?? It seemed like the show was desperate to make us understand that the girls are feminists and strong. But why do we need to see it in words? The original winx literally SHOWED us that they were strong and never needed that damsel in destress arc this show could've done the same but it is very clear to me the white men that made the remake know nothing about true femininity without acting like buzzfeed took over the script.

[@fedro168]

Because they want to change the target from kids to teens and nostalgic adults that would pay to watch this mess

[@channel-zl6tn]

Flora was one of the only representations I had in tv growing up, being a brown latina girl, it was really sad to see her get white washed

[@alfiona7951]

It's like their designer has never gone through Pinterest or has never seen a teenager.

[@Urmom-gs5wm]

FR TEENS DONT LOOK LIKE MIDDLE AGED WOMEN.

[@tuesday1672]

Exactly

[@ummiuno011]

Teenagers? Don't know her. 😩

[@wheatbread5087]

IKR like they should be dressed in like oversized t shirts and shorts or like a crop top or what was actually in the show

[@cherriesnart]

they act like teenagers have no sense of style bruh

[@HelloGoodbye2085]

Feminism isn’t about being a female lawyer instead stay at home mum, it isn’t about being butch over being girly it isn’t about giving up pink for blue. Feminism is about having the choice to do either without being told you can’t. I feel that they really misunderstood that EDIT: its really great to see everyone opening a discussion in the replys but please remember to be respectfull, dont generalise the movement based on the few that misrepresent/pevert it and dont be agressive with eachother 💖

[@puppyplays21]

this!! they forced it poorly

[@msgirly6827]

👏🏿👏🏿

[@somedragonbastard]

Exactly. Trying to suggest that being feminine is somehow anti-feminist is just another form of misogyny, and one many little girls end up internalizing.

[@msgirly6827]

@Mr King ...and then you can also exaggerate like this. This comment reeks of you already hating feminisme and using this as a tool to showcase that lol. 'Female' 'kill all men' ...sus

[@msgirly6827]

@Mr King I said sus because I wanted to. The rest of what you said is invalid and nonsensical. Have a great one!