"I WILL LAY HER OUT!" - Lav Holds Her Ground In CHAOTIC 1v3 Debate ft. Aba And Destiny

[@LastNightDestiny]

"DO NOT Make It Personal" - Aba Gets Called Out And Dragged Into Impromptu Debate ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/laOkqqGCi56kgas

[@Str8murkufool17]

Brittanys gripe is just the sex work point and i wish she had more... Lav is just waiting to get married to take her husbands money imo. Lav is so sex positive or whatever but gets mad at other women who want to be hardcore sex workers by choice which is dumb.. Eww Lav is pagayn what a degenerate and has satan baphomet tattoos? Kinda whack definitely a weird witch. Lav is so dumb if she thinks masturbating with dildos for men is beneficial and educational for women, how damn foolish. Women aren't paying to see her sex content and she definitely knows that. Lav is short for lavatory. She is a toilet. Brittany, or cherry whoever she is over reacting and too personally involved and just likes drama by her own words. Abas criticism are totally relevant Destiny just platforms dramatic retards for content while playing games and doesn't even do a good job moderating these arguments which are excessively childish and dramatic and borin

[@bestdjaf7499]

It's personal when you f@k people. It's like to say my children & women mean nothing to me. Ofcourse it makes difference.

[@conc3d189]

I LOVE that Destiny's anti-misogyny arc involves letting women argue while Dan instigates and he complains that elements of his factory are not working properly. This is truly the good ending

[@rodiculous9464]

Yes this vapid bickering over dumb shit is really doing wonders for showing women in a good light

[@AUstudios]

Why doesnt he just type in chat about generators or whatever

[@bobbiemiles-foremaniii8747]

@@Jodykang is this really even an arc? Lol

[@frankmarano1118]

Mr girl was wrong when he said it was misogynistic to say that having lav on makes people misogynistic. He was emotionally evolved in the destiny drama, he knows deep down that that fact is absolutely 100% true as he used to call out & shut down her stupidity all the time

[@frankmarano1118]

@@Jodykang Yeah I really disagreed with the shit max wanted like telling destiny he shouldn't defend himself against streamers smaller than him but my god I'd take a conversation with him over lav & Brittany any day of the week. At least he's interesting

[@baby_ghoul]

Lav shouting gendered insults at Chaiery after going on a cringe rant about getting other women to appreciate their divine feminine energy and how she's all about women's liberation will never not be funny. She's so unserious lmao.

[@imyournme6632]

She is the physical incarnation of brainrot.

[@bigdadybojangls9219]

100%. Lav is the stereotype that guys are talking about when they refer to the type of girl that is catty with every other girl they interact with

[@harl4227]

She is a disgusting Juden

[@lirruping]

She's so unserious, it's sad and gross. Can't even lmao.

[@randomrealistictone2231]

@@bigdadybojangls9219 I once punched a girl because he was being a bully towards my sister once.

[@jerichojones2722]

lav reminds me of a coke dealer who would never sell heroine because it ruins lives.

[@C1umsyJester]

Yoooo so based

[@unclebobboomergames]

Thats most drug dealers. Many sell drugs but avoid selling heroine and meth just out of principle

[@doublestarships646]

Hahaha man I knew some drug dealers that were most likely sociopathic. I don't know how some of them sleep knowing that they're killing people with poison every day.

[@prettyokandy230]

i mean it's kind of true though...

[@DoubleYouDotTrump]

@@unclebobboomergames It's not a principle, they just don't want to deal with dopeheads and meth addicts.

[@houslessplant7133]

Leave it to Lav to flip-flop on being a flip-flopper

[@Roelioz1]

Her feet in flip flops 🩴 🦶😭🤤😫😩

[@BlakeLovesPoland]

@@Roelioz1 WHAT

[@patrickmac777]

That's what I was thinking!

[@secondengineer9814]

24:08 "I'm very proud of being a woman it feels very spiritual to me" A week ago she said she has no internal experience of gender wtf

[@TCZodiacK]

She would rather die than to ever commit to a single stance for more than 5 minutes

[@vidzorko4492]

I mean she just sucks, you can't take her word on anything. All the criticism she's been getting has been more than justified

[@Vashthestampede967]

No you see rules don't apply to her. Those are for peasants that don't have 500k a year husband's, BTW i didn't even know that till this stream and may I say. Wtf? I'd get this is you had like some scrub maybe, but 500k? DIS IS A SICKNESS!! It I'd deviant and therefore we do not want it.

[@common0324]

In two sentences you put up a better argument vs lav then all the womeb in this hour long convo. Its crazy how bad they are.

[@LiarofShinovar]

LMAOOOO

[@illogik9243]

Lav’s husband makes 500k a year, apparently that’s not considered rich to her, that’s “upper middle class”. Not just in Los Angeles, but around the globe that’s considered wealthy.

[@mowmow4617]

Literally people get happy for 50k, I only get like 35 tbh.

[@jshv73]

That’s rich. That’s like 35k per month after taxes. I wouldn’t even begin to know what to do with all that money in a month

[@mowmow4617]

@@jshv73 Deadass that's a lot of money. I'm slowly trying to get 50 k a year and he damn near getting my salary now monthly.

[@chaosdragoon1]

500k a year and he settled on Lav?! On only Lav though? Lav is not ugly, but he could have gotten way better than her at 500k. Unless he was already with her way before he made the 500k.

[@yohankuriyan7633]

@@chaosdragoon1 lmao people online think looks are the only thing that matters in relationships

[@zestylem0n]

Lav is hard to understand bc she's weaving this perfect path through a sex work minefield where her actions are perfectly fine and everyone else is doing it wrong. Comes across like hardcore cope and projection.

[@DGzCarbon]

How is she hard to understand. She thinks sex work is often done in a bad way but she's still doing it because she likes it and is trying to do it In a healthy way. Like.. how is this hard to understand

[@perzonne6302]

All so called "sex workers" use a rollercoaster of monkey branch rationalizations and it can be entertaining to watch for a bit

[@note4note804]

@@DGzCarbon It's not hard to understand why she's doing it. Obviously it's because she likes it. But if you say, "Sex work is something women are forced to do because of capitalism and it dehumanizes women and it forces them to degrade themselves and reduce themselves to a thing to be objectified."...you sound like a hypocrite when you immediately follow it with, "But I'm choosing the good kind of sex work that doesn't degrade me at all, and it wasn't forced on me at all and my sex work is helping people." It also sounds extra hypocritical when this is prefaced with, "I'm done with sex work because I hated it and it exploited me and sex work is bad." Maybe if she stopped calling every single thing she's does and doesn't do "sex work", it'd be a lot more coherent.

[@DGzCarbon]

@@note4note804 Everyone is a hypocrite that's not as big of an insult and you guys seem to think. You guys are being dramatic. All she's saying is that usually sex work is done in an unhealthy way. She enjoys it and wants to keep doing it and is trying to do it in a more healthy way. That's it. All the capitalism stuff is nonsense. She just thinks it's usually done in a bad way and is trying to do it in a better way

[@note4note804]

@@DGzCarbon While it's great that you can take hours and hours of Lav's rambling and distill it into an opinion so asinine that it's axiomatically impossible to disagree with(wow, she wants to do good things unlike other people who do bad things), that's not really what she's saying. As a listening comprehension test, could you explain for us dramatic guys why, according to Lav, sex work is bad?

[@user-bo1sl7gs9x]

Id pay thousands just to see Lav try and work a retail job for a few months.

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

Duh, shed give up after 3 days and start onlyfans. Just like she did originally.

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

'I was a dumb 17yr old that didn't want my parents rules anymore so I started Onlyfans and earned 700k in my first year.'

[@thepowerofmyth]

@@NidokingOtsutsuki 😂 that sounds like a you problem

[@orygarmy8560]

Can you pay me thousands to work a retail job for a few months I need new tires and 3500 for my new motor

[@TouHaros]

@@orygarmy8560 I'll find something for you to do once my volt inu portfolio pops off.💃⚡

[@boxers_]

"Lav Holds Her Ground" If you mean that she picked up grass in her hand, sure.

[@Cybertech134]

Bold of you to assume that Lav has ever touched grass.

[@fyngolnoldor4891]

Someone needs to make a Lav compilation of her contradicting positions with dates.

[@kamui1398]

if any person that came on to argue with her would bring just 3 sets of clips she would be fucking destroyed, steven could easily but he doesn't want to and he doesn't push her on specifics at all if people miss them

[@flowder8]

that would require someone willingly going out and seeking lav's opinion and i dont think anyone is that mentally ill

[@kamui1398]

@@flowder8 what do you mean? 8 people literally hopped in this call to do just that and do all the time.the problem is that they just don't substantiate because in their mind it's too obvious to have to demonstrate but with people like her you absolutely have to, and meticulously because she'll try her hardest to bullshit around any and everything

[@wannabewallaby3248]

people have brought clips in before, like during the mr.girl accusation arc but she waves them all away by saying they’re missing context, everything she says is just too nuanced and intelligent to be viewed outside of an entire three hour conversation to her

[@fyngolnoldor4891]

@@wannabewallaby3248 I know but an entire compilation of her dumb contradictions that goes viral would be much harder to wave away and at the same time would probably cement her as the unlikeable interlocutor she is.

[@rubssi8741]

The lav content will never end 😩

[@MileenaUltra]

"""""Content""""". Tired of her just promoting her porn that isn't porn because she doesn't accept payment for """""content""""".

[@3br1ce7]

MAKE IT STOP

[@Emwest84]

I really hope it does … I can’t handle this content

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

I'm fine with Lav content, I hate the orbiter drama. We got rid of Mr. Girl so this is the best arc in DGG history, but I am bored of the interpersonal fights.

[@GeninGeo]

@@Emwest84 there is one way it ends.

[@TheJiminatorHS]

the first part of this is like 2 lavs talking to each other.

[@JWinHD]

Please god make it stop

[@JulianSloman]

Thank you for reminding me that I can. Done. Skipped this one :)

[@HalobravoJJGaming]

I hope this is the last Lav video I click on. If not the last will be soon.

[@ThankYouStayedHere]

Lav calling it spiritual when she gets off to guys ogling her online cracks me up

[@JulieBTRLover]

I actually think hosting convos like this with Lav does wonders for the anti misogyny arc. All Steven has to do now is bring out a slightly more bearable woman and in comparison she’ll be a queen. And I can say that and not sound misogynistic because I’m a woman. Just like Lav can call everybody a bitch.

[@wiredvibe1678]

Maybe that was the attempt with Annalisa

[@richardeknormis7688]

Lav:“ tell me when I flip flopped” Other girl: “before you said your patreon contributes to your own harm, and now you say your patreon is totally fine” Lav: “you’re just trying to catch me in a gotcha moment” Other girl: “no… I am answering your question about when you flip flopped”

[@supershot9729]

Tfw Lav thinks being part of the 1% is just "being upper middle class"

[@CrazyRockwell]

Destiny is cultivating a "wack pack".

[@ImDougDimmadome]

Who’s Beetlejuice

[@askers_]

*has cultivated. This is like the 8th generation of schizo orbiters infighting lol.

[@jeolifter4449]

Who’s lady di

[@Shin_Akumi]

@@jeolifter4449 lol ask beige frequency

[@perzonne6302]

wh-whoooo's high pitch?

[@FaylunaRaRa]

I hope that the guy Lav is engaged to lives a long and happy life that does not end in mysterious circumstances...

[@Emelllll64]

i bet he never wins fights with her.

[@C3Rl3]

@@Emelllll64 i bet he did all the way up until she met Mr.Girl.

[@BananaNik]

I love lav content. It makes me feel like a normal person

[@Mstrskeletor89]

Listening to her makes us all seem like geniuses

[@DoubleYouDotTrump]

Normal people would never subject themselves to this shit.

[@TheDude322]

I never hated women until I saw a few Destiny videos. Thank you sir for opening my eyes to how bad it truly is.

[@UnorthodoxHeavyHitter]

Based

[@Hemroyd_Skankins]

Destiny radicalized me further to the right on women's issues than 4chan ever could.

[@csadams404]

if that happened to you it just means you were already too incel-brained/can’t see the world through someone else’s eyes. this is gonna sound like i'm literally parodying myself but what helped me be more empathetic to women was reading twoxchromosomes subreddit and relationships subreddit, I realize there are unhinged dumb women there but there are also genuinely good women there talking about their struggles and reading about their struggles helped me to humanize them and see their perspectives. having platonic female friends helps too although I'm guessing thats probably a tall order for you.

[@Hemroyd_Skankins]

@@csadams404 Why do women hate all men after they have one abusive relationship? If that happens, they're just too victim-brained. Why do black people hate all cops after they have one bad interaction? If that happens, they're just too race-brained. Lav is the Derek Chauvin of bipolar b*tches. That's all I'm saying my homie.

[@Hemroyd_Skankins]

​@@csadams404 First off, editing your comment after I responded? Cringe. Second of all, I'm not actually an incel. I actually agree with some of Lav's basic positions. What I am saying is that Destiny's content (and DGG itself) has been becoming more conducive to misogyny in recent months, to the point at which even I'm starting to be tempted. Everyone fucking knows that a pack of mentally ill prostitutes don't represent all women. However, Destiny is currently platforming Lav for thirty hours a week while she spins obnoxious bullshit narratives about how her perspective is important and nobody's being fair to her. Worse, her greatest opposition is Chaery, who's extremely obnoxious herself. Its difficult to be pro-woman when you're brought face-to-face with these shrews who represent every negative aspect of femininity dialed up to eleven. I'm starting to miss Lauren Southern at this point. Thirdly, imagine thinking that there are actual women on twoxchromosomes lmao.

[@Omnorimli]

Destiny has planted his garden, watered the soil, been patient, and will soon harvest the content.

[@bugtesties]

Hahaha the truest statement I’ve ever heard!

[@DoubleYouDotTrump]

This crop is fucked. Burn it and start over with less obnoxious orbiters.

[@garfeellsagna3326]

He is a kiwi farmer in the sense he homegrows his own lolcows

[@rorynolan2322]

Come have an argument on my stream while I play this games and get paid for it. I'll throw in a reactionary noise every now and then too keep up with appearances.

[@Omnorimli]

@@rorynolan2322 LIVING THE DREAM. Without being overbearing, He does interject when needed though.

[@LiarofShinovar]

holy shit this was a 70 min ad for a patreon please stop

[@anamorphosis7234]

Seriously... you would think Lav PAID Steven for all this airtime shilling her nudes basically

[@ozzy7609]

@@anamorphosis7234 anyone who still pays for that garbage after this deserves to be her succubus victim, I’m happy they’re volunteering to be broke and sexless

[@asparrow9876]

@@anamorphosis7234 the underlying marketing goes hard

[@q.e.d.8013]

As much as Lav gets shit for what she says, Brittany was not the person to criticize her. She could not engage with a single thing Lav said in good faith. Chaeiry was trying but I feel like she wasn't directing the conversation towards any pointed criticism. The capitalism convo was such a massive and unnecessary derailment (though to be fair, if your husband makes half a million dollars, you're not just upper middle class).

[@bigben3089]

Lol. Yeah I love that she called herself upper middle class when her fiancé is a literal millionaire. Like girl you’re in the top 1%. I think I heard her say in another video that she herself makes like 10 grand a month from onlyfans and patreon. It’s so irritating when rich people try and pretend they’re not rich.

[@lachlanneill9180]

Lav has a hundred and one ways to say she reads playboy only for the articles.

[@ThaNarc]

Ive read old playboy mags its actually pretty good writing.

[@kraftdinna5650]

lav is becoming DGG's personal lolcow

[@brandonislemons]

Politically provoked Brittany is at least as dumb as Lav if not dumber so I'm buying up lav stocks rn

[@kraftdinna5650]

@@brandonislemons hey fair enough all's fair in love and war

[@kraftdinna5650]

@brandonislemons at least she's consistent in her arguments tho. Lav just says "NO" after someone tries to describe what they believe she meant and then makes up why she believes "No" on the spot. You can tell cause she'll pause for a pretty short amount of time before going into a tirade and she'll keep pausing. Sometimes stream of conciousness can be good but I think the fact she does it so often kind of is one of those boy -who- cried- wolf situations

[@brandonislemons]

@@kraftdinna5650 all true, I'm just partial to lav because she Stans her homie Mrgirl (albeit in childish ways) my political opinions are way more in line with hers even though yeah she basically just rips them from destiny and Mrgirl without thinking about them too much and Brittany is your standard basic conservative bimbo. I'll take an art ho over a basic bitch any day my guy 😷

[@balls4303]

content is lame

[@richardeknormis7688]

“All I did when Steven called me a dumb Bish was tell him I don’t like it” … my goodness this woman is a liar… when Steven called her that she literally cried and created a 20 minute conversion about who him doing that changes everyone’s opinion online and makes all the men dislike her… like what is she talking about. The level of hypocrisy is mind boggling

[@LunaTulpa]

i dislike lav, but greatly dislike Brittany even more, and I don't understand either of them. entertaining regardless I suppose

[@aWildNelby]

Lav’s supposed nuanced take: “Porn is bad, except for the stuff that I’m doing. I’m going to keep doing it because money. I am empowered.” Good to see she’s been talking with Destiny about how to argue her points though; The drug and alcohol in moderation comparison is straight out of the Destiny debate handbook.

[@DwarfullyNotTall51]

Jesus leave it to Brittany to help make Lav come off as so much more polite when Lav literally wants to "Lay that bitch out"

[@eigna8914]

Lab just talks. She is in the porn industry but wants to stop it. She lost before it started.

[@hotmess9640]

I really don’t like Lav. I got banned from the discord for saying that but I stand behind it she’s so damn annoying

[@Funman555]

'anti misogony arc' and he brings on the most toxic basic ass annoying girls who he has either a) already slept with or b) has heavily flirted with in a public setting. Erudite is the only exception, she is bae.

[@gamerGUY3013]

Destiny has the *exact* same critiques about Lav that Brittany and Cheiry have but they can't explain it and give examples like Destiny can. "The problem with Lav is that she comes out super f****ng hard against something and switches her position the next day" is almost verbatim what I remember him saying. *Edit:* Here's where he said it, not exactly what I quoted but pretty damn close- go to *31:30* kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6qZdXeqn7Jmmbs

[@MegaDzEL]

You know Aba always coming in with that W.

[@seeksolace2059]

I actually really dislike Lavs hypocrisy with the usage of the word bitch....and her justification of it with the comparison to black people is ridiculous. Also, I vehemently dislike other black people using the hard r against me(jokingly or not), so I never reciprocate that. She simply cannot have debates without getting riled up, and I'm not gonna fault her for that she just needs to focus on her points and try to concede as little ground as possible. Also, she needs to internalize and deeply think about her actions vs her viewpoints.

[@dap0zx]

I think the women on this panel forget the fact that Destiny is allowed to use the word "bitch," because he does, in fact, have a woman's name.

[@Intruse]

true and based

[@apalumbo761]

The only thing you need to remember when talking to Lav is this: nuanced = hypocritical. Exp. - "I'm sorry you're to dumb to understand nuance" = "I'm sorry you're to dumb to understand hypocrisy"

[@jesser.3702]

Forced by Capitalism to start an OnlyFans. I respect women so much.

[@jesterbob828]

Lav is a waste of time

[@christianbethel]

And oxygen.

[@C1umsyJester]

The anti misogyny arc is going well lmao

[@christianbethel]

@Crystal Logik How so?

[@asparrow9876]

@@C1umsyJester If you told me 15 years ago that I'd be watching debate livestreams in the future about s*x work, I would've thrown things at you. Look at us all now.

[@MrKilltastic]

@Crystal Logik I agree, she's and idiot now but she has time to change

[@alexischagoya4317]

More and more I'm led to think lav is farming bc over and over I see her be super harsh with insults and ppl call her on that and shes like "I'm joking" but the b word was to much for her? Either she's farming or she's a literal kid who acts out for the fck of it and then can't handle it being thrown back

[@Noodliest]

*Sees Lav in title* .... *skips video*

[@Emwest84]

Best comment

[@brule1763]

Around 34:20 lav characterizes her household as "upper middle class" I'm not anti-Lav, and this kind of thinking is not unique to her, but holy shit if you think a $500k household income is "upper-middle class" you are delusional. Middle class is probably like 50-80k. Upper middle class is probably 80-150k. You get past 200k, you're beyond upper middle class. If you're more than DOUBLE even THAT threshold, you're solidly in the upper class. Even if you're in a super HCOL city, that's a level of income that puts you out of touch with reality.

[@supahdupah207]

28:15 Lol " I don't flip flop, maybe I do flip flop, no nevermind I dont flip flop" bruhhh

[@ChaoticIntention]

THAT'S WHAT LAV REMINDS ME OF. She does act like a hypocritical Drug Dealer, who sells people drugs because it makes them feel good and she gets money while she's at it, but complains about how messed up society has become when she's one of the reasons it has gone this far, but excuses herself, blames capitalism, in a way that 'If I don't do it, somebody else will', and goes eliminating any future competition.

[@Moshm4n]

Gen Z debate strategy is stating a point and rhetorically saying "Right?" after.

[@nitinjohnraj2544]

So I suppose this was the era when Lav was actually quite intelligent.

[@tripplejaz]

Dan needs to make an executive move and get rid of Lav

[@JimC607]

Aba spitting pure facts in the last few minutes. Destiny's "anti-misogyny" arc was so antithetical to what he claimed he was trying to do. The same arc that introduced us to Brittany, Lav and Annalicia lmao Destiny gotta hold that L up high for all to see.

[@fragfmgill]

legs are a manipulative move yes.

[@sgonzo5572]

They are known to cause car accidents.

[@michaelcerrone8403]

Long live Alpharius!

[@zeekawesomecus917]

Lav really needs to stop using charged language like how she said women are essentially "forced" into sex work because of capitalism. If women are being forced into sex work then men are being forced into physical labor jobs which is making them feel like they're 70 when they're in their 30s. If capitalism is forcing people into lines of work that is lucrative, then capitalism is forcing people into black market industries. I dont entirely disagree with her that it's an issue that women are choosing sex work for the money and it ends up effecting their mental health. But there has to be some level of responsibility for one's own wellbeing. Otherwise people like this Brittany person are going to win the argument everytime on such a dumb and simple point that you can concede a little ground on. Also she was so close with the "I've been consistent this whole time" part, but just had to end it with "but actually I was voicing it correctly the first time you all were just too dumb to get it." It's like seeing someone actively progress and regress in the span of a single conversation.

[@Sumoniggro]

@Crystal Logik I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news but there isn't a single economic system on the planet that doesn't force men into physical labor jobs, socialism, communism, fascism, imperialism, feudalism etc they all force men into physical labor jobs, the only difference here is capitalism doesn't force you with a gun, they force you with an empty stomach and no housing.

[@pikits196]

Honestly from the very beginning of Lav’s opinions on sex work I was absolutely baffled how everyone did not understand her views. So from my perspective, I agree with her

[@zeekawesomecus917]

@@pikits196 Idk, I might have to go back and watch what she had originally said. I'll admit I mainly listen to the majority of Destiny's content not live and in the car while I drive. But from what I remember she had made it sound like she was outright equating sex work to self destructive behavior. Which now she's saying its not inherently self destructive but that it most likely is for the majority of women who engage in it. And she's done this a lot, where she will take a really hard stance on something and then turn around and give nuance after the fact. Honestly from this conversation and another, it sounded like what happened was that Cheri, Brittney, and Lav all had a talk and Lav gained insight mainly from Brittney that sex work can be done in a responsible manner by both the consumer and the worker.

[@imyournme6632]

Lav - "I have a problem with Sex work, but what i do with Sex work is ethically better and different" Totally not a self absorbed view. "It's also shown to be easy for young women" While earning 700k a year at 17-18. Painfully hypocritical to benefit from all this shit and then go ahead and judge others for doing the same by building a moral highground on a flimsy egocentric view of yourself.

[@pikits196]

I can guarantee with absolute certainty that there is at least one (probably several) criticisms that you have about society in which you minorly contribute to in some indirect way

[@imyournme6632]

@@pikits196 Yes which is fine, but i am not using that catalyst to benefit off of it just to say all others that do benefit off it are making things toxic. Such a 1head take.

[@pikits196]

@@nixondoesit Yeah nah, tons of things we do in society is not technically necessarily at all

[@richardeknormis7688]

When Lav says “what I do is art and educational” I can’t tell if she is either super delusional thinking that, or if she is sinister because she knows she lying and just doesn’t care. Either way, her attitude and hypocrisy are gross

[@Robinthebank__]

And the fault lands on Dan, its always the cabal 😔

[@Liz-nq9rc]

Stardust coming in at the perfect time, as always 😂

[@ozzy7609]

lav isn’t even capable of comebacks, she just regurgitates top reddit comments, so cringe. no, not because she’s a women.

[@CapnDGAF]

I'm stealing "ok, go ahead". Its top tier, right up there with "ok, gotcha" in level of condescension🤣🤣

[@DaJukes]

it's amazing how long someone can gaslight and ask you to restate things over and over, yet everyone stays on your side.

[@Deadfistx12]

Dan with the ultimate set up lol 😆

[@1RED1]

The good old days

[@Ryan1495]

Holy shit, i actually can't finish this. Lav actually rots my brain to listen to

[@apmaquina]

BAHAHAHAHAHA I dunno whats going on anymore but, I can feel my brain cells melting at a rate I can't comprehend bro

[@thebronzemanticore]

Lav and Brittany talking to each other makes me wish I was gay instead of bi and never met a woman in my life

[@thebronzemanticore]

@@johnlonne7062 not hate but kinda be wary about. Tho not realy, I play it up for comedic effect. Also, I dont need you to tell me what my orientation is, go suck Lav's ass

[@thebronzemanticore]

@@johnlonne7062 so me having sex with bith men and wimen must be a fake memory inserted by the aliens. Ty for the insight.

[@AlexA-wb9pr]

The harem is in shambles

[@queenc2144]

I just come here for comments like this

[@sward0483]

Lmao "you're just seeking attention!" Says the pot to the kettle

[@BromanThings]

I miss when the content was intellectual political discourse and not this Jerry Springer garbage. Insufferable people interrupting/insulting each other, and speaking with hopeful authority on uninformed and poorly thought out opinions. Destiny please make it stop, it's gone too far :(

[@dm7356]

Lav is incapable of holding debates absent of shame language and ad hominem. This was very annoying

[@lacroixboix]

This is Lav's best showing

[@Itsnotthatserioustbh]

She may not be good at arguing for it but she definitely seems the closest to reality on this somehow 😅

[@lacroixboix]

@@Itsnotthatserioustbh well I just love that she finally realized that people HAVE to come up with a coherent argument with reasonable solutions to tell her she's wrong to do something! Like the single thing she failed to do here was realize that they both settled on targeting her for charging for her current nsfw video content. If she had in sound mind responded with "yes because we all agree that the only consistent way to slow, maybe not stop, but SLOW access to porn from minors is a paywall and unadulterated porn access is one of my biggest flaws with the industry as we've already gone over!" and if she had done that and then got any amount of pushback she could have geared it toward maybe settling at $5 in stead of $8 I genuinely would have subbed for 6 months without ever watching a video JUST on principle that she'd figured out how to structure an effective debate!

[@branflakes496]

Aba is 100% right about Steven's "anti-misogyny" arc back firing. Has to do with with the specific people he's brought on to speak. Hint; they are all not smart 👍

[@thanks1obama780]

Chaiery: "I think about you Lav" Also Chaiery: "HOW DARE YOU CALL ME OBSESSED"

[@milkcatdog394]

I was kinda hoping for a sex joke from the panel after that lol

[@petermester100]

thinking about something = obsessed

[@ogslowdragon]

Sex is not supposed to be a vocation. Choosing how much a man will pay to get off on you is not empowerment. It's capitulation.

[@hartyewh1]

These three are such a bundle of joy. Lav is not even the problem here. "If you think it has problems then don't do it"? Like education, the prison system and healthcare for example? Wtf kind of point is that?

[@SaVanityVan]

Ehh this is a dumb argument, education, prison, and healthcare are necessary for society to function, even if the current systems are fucked. Being a sex worker is a personal choice that affects no one but yourself, and there are endless other options to make a living, online sex work is just incredibly lucrative and easy so she chooses it, despite it psychologically taxing her. Choosing to do something purely because it benefits you, whether you have criticisms about it or not, can't be compared to participating in overarching systems that society as a whole is beholden to for everything to keep functioning

[@hartyewh1]

@@SaVanityVan Well they failed to make the distinction. It doesn't make any sense to say that you shouldn't do sex work if you have problems with it. The structure of the argument is the same or we could make it closer with working for a prison, hospital, school, the military, financial sector or in insurance. The uttermost depth of their point was empty. You're reading into Lav's internal motivations and that's a waste of time to begin with.

[@kurtadams9740]

Mr girl content was boring, now this lav content is boring. I think destiny wants to sleep with lav tbh, it's why he's helping her out so much.

[@resisttheslavemind2127]

she called him daddy so it's possible

[@pikits196]

Sexist

[@BouncinBrandon]

I wish Vegan Gains was 24 so Destiny could just go vegan already, Vegan Gains being over 24 is what made those conversations uncharitable apparently lol

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

Okay that’s very funny. But to be quite honest the convos between both of them always turn into sh*tshows.

[@BouncinBrandon]

@@WarningBFG-isHiring well he's been over 24 in all of their convos so makes sense

[@turbosai]

I am so not going to miss this

[@austinmenezes8074]

Hot take maybe, brittany is worse than lav which is crazy

[@overtherenowaitthere]

lav is bad, her excuse is shes young, brittany has no excuses

[@austinmenezes8074]

@@overtherenowaitthere what happened to brittany? Wasnt she a centrist not too long ago?

[@General_Maximus]

@@austinmenezes8074 Miyo convinced her that immigration is bad and that non whites are inferior.

[@JoannaT2]

Lav called her a female Darius which is actually spot on. They’re both abrasively unhinged.

[@johnpower29]

Criticising a sex worker for being a sex worker is a kin to someone complaining at someone who criticises capitalism for owning an iPhone

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

When does Aba come in?

[@b23beatz]

40k a year makes you the top 1% of earners world wide so idgaf if you live in Cali 500k a year + her OF money is not even close to upper middle class LMFAO

[@danielabernal4961]

I love how Lav posted her TikTok analytics only because she knew she couldnt post the analytics of the site she was posting her corn content on.

[@GeninGeo]

NGL idk why dan is on any of these videos, maybe hes behind the scenes managing but he doesnt seem to add much to any conversation he eventually puts himself in.

[@ihavescaibes685]

I don’t know much about lav but I’m willing to bet that she’s been in at least one physically abusuve relationship

[@C1umsyJester]

Jesus dude

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

Think she said this before tbh

[@Mstrskeletor89]

She has the attitude of someone whos never been physically assaulted by anyone

[@SaVanityVan]

Are you implying she was the abuser, or she was abused?

[@biocular]

the phrase "sex addiction" never seems to cross the mind of only-fan girls.

[@richardeknormis7688]

*message to Lav’s finace* … run brother… (Singing) Don’t save her, she don’t want to be saved, don’t save her

[@cathmorr89]

I know they were trying hard as hell to drum up sympathy for lav, but her hedging to try to justify her snake behavior isn't convincing anyone.

[@Tagerrun]

Lol no nothing forces a women into sex work she picks the easy money it doesn’t force itself upon her 😂

[@C1umsyJester]

True, it’s just an option that’s open to them. It’s just up to individual morals if you want to engage with it, but in no means is it forced

[@yourgrammarisnotverygood1827]

@Crystal Logik No, because I know what force means.

[@OMAR-vk9pi]

@Crystal Logik mental gymnastics

[@lumayne8829]

this title is so genius. 1v3 debate, vs aba and destiny?? whos the third?? is it the girl she's going to supposedly "lay out"?? I'm on the edge of my seat here

[@Mickk4224]

Lav vs Chaeiry, Brittany and Stardust

[@Christopher-dk5pv]

If Lauv is in the video I just ignore it and move to another one.

[@onebigd313]

False advertisement. No ground was held.

[@mirootsie1256]

I swear to God, Destiny is holding auditions for a remake of 'Mean Girls' with the female orbiters he has.

[@CLowe693]

I feel like I’ve heard this conversation a dozen times 😂

[@CSM-I0I]

Hello, I didn't watch this one because hearing lavs voice gives me a headache.

[@tjthecat3688]

Okay call me nuts but some things lav says are innately agreeable, i don’t think shitting on character rather than her views is a good characterization of someone trying to express opinions. Now for her flip flopping, destiny himself says that this is fine, it’s when you don’t acknowledge it, is what her huge problem is.

[@honestaspie6405]

I can't imagine admitting to being satanic but also expecting to be taken seriously.

[@Plebus3]

Thank you bronie

[@honestaspie6405]

@Plebus3 You're welcome, ad-hommer.

[@owenleal]

When did this stream turn into Love and Hip Hop??? What happened to the politics stuff that Destiny used to do? Now we just listen to people instigate shit drama in the world's worst and most unhinged friend group.

[@MannersPlease]

This is great. Very nostalgic content. it reminds me about childhood and coming home and watching Jerry Springer reruns. on afternoon television

[@voodoo5845]

I don't really understand the criticism of lav doing sex work but also talking about how it oppresses her or whatever, a heroin user could absolutely give advice to another person about how they probably shouldn't do heroin and I think they would be fairly qualified to give that advice given their experience

[@Ghost_Hybrid]

This was extremely painful to listen to.

[@76Bagnasty]

These are the last people on earth I'd want to hear discuss capitalism.

[@rriveror27]

I can’t believe I’m saying this but the Britt girl is way more annoying than Lav.